Shawn French
Appearances
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
And I think that more, I know that more people need to adopt living in purpose and making impact over income or fame or anything like that. And because you guys have done that so consistently, you're changing lives and you're saving lives.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Yeah, man. You guys are all close and personal over there. You guys are rubbing elbows. Look at you guys. Yeah. Beautiful. No. So again, thank you so much for taking time to meet with me today and discuss Recovery Unplugged and what it means to society, the world, and the work that you guys are doing.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
You know, it's interesting, guys, because, you know, I look at this, you know, obviously music is art. And what I do is an art in its own right, interviewing people and things like that. And when I started, right, when I started this show, I started it with an iPhone in a car and I was just venting. And for me, it was getting things out.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
And but also when what I noticed is, you know, I had that imposter syndrome earlier. Who the heck am I to, you know, to start a podcast? No one cares what I have to say. So it was that self-worth, right? And I continued to do the work. And what I found was even when I would go on a rant, it resonated with somebody and it helped somebody heal. And I'm like, wait a second.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
This could be so much bigger. So I doubled down on it and I kept working and I kept working. And then all of a sudden now this massive team behind me and we're able to get this message and have conversations with you two legends on the show to talk about your impact. And I'm, I'm making impact by delivering it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Yeah. I mean, you know, and thank you for that because to me, I always, when people meet me in person, like when, when we meet, you're like, you're the same guy. And to your point, social media does highlight some of the, well, most of the highlight reels of things. And when you meet somebody, sometimes the energies don't match. And to me, that's scary and that's dangerous, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
So before we get into it, for the audience that isn't familiar with Recovery Unplugged, can you guys give a little brief description of what it is that you guys are doing and how it was founded?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
And so for me to use my voice, I had to get very comfortable with me in order to do that. And as I progress, I'm bringing more of me, more of my opinions and not worrying about how it's going to be, I guess, viewed or received by people that aren't my people. There's going to be people out there I'm sure hate my show. Cool. You have that right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
But what we're doing here is I'm never going to speak untruthfully. I'm going to be genuine. I'm going to be authentic. I know these are buzzwords, but here it's real. And that's why, to your point, I've been able to grow at a rapid pace. And that's why you guys have grown at such a rapid pace because it's real.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
It's about who you know.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Yeah, no, and that's great. And I'm glad the audience and if you're if you're listening right now, and you have any type of mental illness, you struggle with something or even addiction, like recovery unplug, think about this, go go look at it on the internet and see if it's something for you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Because what you're talking about right now is when people go or when when a family member sits another family member or friend down said, Hey, we think you have a problem. We need you to go to recovery. The only thing I would imagine, I'm not an addict, right? But I can imagine the feelings of shame.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
I love that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
I keep going back to impact in my mind. The only way you can make a true impact is if you care. Yes. And what you guys are doing is doing enough work up front to see what potentially might make that resident feel more comfortable immediately.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
You know, instead of walking into a scary moment and I'm here now and it's meeting after meeting and I'm labeled this addict and that could be scary, I would imagine.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
How do you help them work through that? I mean, I know the traditional, the medications, the therapies, the music and everything, but specifically that right there, that is a tough spot, right? How does that work at Recovery Unplugged and getting them through that initially or even as quickly as possible?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Come on.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Yeah. In 12 years. Yes. Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Love it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
I love the leading by example aspect that you're talking about, right? Movement, right? Movement. So whether you're working out, running or dancing, it's still movement, right? You're breaking that inertia, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
As you know, that first movement that you make throughout the day, whether you're in recovery or just, you know, super tired from all the pizza you ate the night before or the sugar, like that first move is hard, right? But once you get moving, the juices start flowing. And it's always nice to see when the people in charge are also living examples of that, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
And it all goes back, guys, to you're best equipped to help the person that you used to be.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Wow, that's amazing. Richie, what's been your journey in this with Andrew? Because, I mean, I know you play a big part in it and you're taking your own personal experience and bringing it into this venture. I mean, it's very interesting.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Thank you. Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
He's looking so smelt. Yeah. He's in his 80s and has more hair than I do. Good Lord, man. I'm worried about me.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
No, you look good. And so I'm a large, by the way. So when I come over, yeah, I will support that for sure. So as we land the plane here, guys, it's been a great conversation about what you guys do. And I know the audience is dialed in.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
And my audience loves this kind of stuff because either they're dealing with addiction or mental illness or someone in their family, as you know, has been touched by it or friends. What's next for Recovery Unplugged?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Love it. Love that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Unbelievable, guys. I've really enjoyed this. And you guys are fascinating. What you guys are doing is groundbreaking and helping the world get better. And I'm super happy we spent this afternoon together.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
I can't wait to see you guys. I'm going to come over. I'm going to come over. I'll probably come over in the next three, four weeks. I'm going to be honest.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Yes, she will. Yes, she will. I'll be in touch with you guys. And for the audience, if this show touched you in any type of way, I'm sure it did. And you can share the show with somebody you know, love and trust. Please go ahead and share with them. Give them the words of these two amazing men and the work that they're doing in the world. And until next time, guys, stay determined.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Love it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Same.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Yeah. We were talking a little bit off air, and I told you how my wife and I, when we want to connect, we listen to music together. And then you mentioned music is about connectivity, and it connects people, right? From different paths, and everybody has a story, and you're able to connect really well through music. And like you mentioned, it disarms you. It disarms.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
And I want to go back real quick. You talked about when you wrote Amazing, that big hit. I was watching some of that stuff prior to the interview. And just you and Steven Tyler on set singing that song. And I'm listening to his words. And the overarching thing is life is not about the destination. It's about the journey.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
right and i love this because i'm getting goosebumps like no joke guys because a lot of my platform i talk about hey you know do the small steps every day forget about what that macro result is you want but let's focus on the journey and who you become within that you know every single day and you know you're out there for a year and a half doing recovery unplugged just by yourself and then all of a sudden you're you're doing that every single day
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
And Andrew, you guys have harmony, right? And you're doing what you do every single day. And all of a sudden, when the time is right, connectivity. And because of music, now you guys are working on your 18,000th patient. This is incredible. This is about doing the work every day with purpose and it opening up to something so much greater.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Love it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
What's up everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the determined society. I'm your host, Sean Frisch. Before I introduce today's guests, please hit subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, Apple podcasts, and let us know what you love about the show.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
And you're referring to Adam David, correct?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Wow.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Yeah, it sure is. You know, it's funny, you're talking about, we keep going back to the word connectivity, and there's a reason, right? So when I look at your little concerts, right, whether it was you and Steven Tyler, Flo Rida, I'm looking at the crowd. I'm looking at... the residents within the facility. And I'm seeing some super open and just flown with it. And there was just one, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
So today I have singer songwriter, Richie Supa, who his resume is very, very large, but I'm going to drop a couple of names here with Aerosmith and Steven Tyler, pink air supply. Uh, an amazing, amazing professional in the music industry, and I have the founder of Recovery Unplugged, Andrew Sosin, with us today. We're going to get into it right now. Gentlemen, welcome to the show.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
I believe it was the Flowrider video. I saw her in the front with her arms crossed, kind of looking around, wanting to come out. But I can see in her eyes that she was wanting to, but wasn't comfortable yet. But then as the video... continued, you can see her facial expression changing to a little bit more joy because there was so much love and fun going on around her.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
And again, the connectivity of the music, having someone big like Flo right on the stage, right? Right there in your little room was pretty dang cool. It was, but it gave them a chance to just be and connect, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
The one thing that I admire most with you gentlemen is, again, very successful past. As you mentioned, Richie, you left the music industry to do this solely, and Andrew, you left some things that you were doing to focus on this. It is an energy, but what it mostly is is two people leading with a purpose and something that's so fulfilling.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Let's get back to Wineville. Everybody, go watch it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Learn your lesson.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Well, I love it, you know, because I can, I can look at that, you know, and for the audience, you know, listening or watching is, you know, when things go wrong in, in, in our lives, right, we have a choice. We can sit there and we can be mad about it or we can find the solution.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Like day one of shooting for you guys, someone gets COVID, someone gets arrested, you know, now you got to find a new writer before it even, and then, but, but most people in that moment they're going to think my project is torched now, right? Because I got to find a new writer. But it worked out in your benefit, right? It worked out. So now it's your story.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
So no matter what happens in our lives, I challenge the audience to really listen, rewind back the past five minutes and listen to this over again. Everything in our lives, chronologically, it could be happening to us or for us. And in your instance, you chose to be like, this is happening for me and I'm going to implement something else and make it better.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
So, yeah, I, I, I agree with that, you know, and I think that's one of the things that gets people like stuck, right. Is because they get caught in the emotion of the actual thing that is going on. And we, and I think at some point, Randy, to be truthful, like in an honest with everybody, we all feel that way momentarily high performers though, they go, all right. I got to do this anyways, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
And how can I systematically and just piece by piece move forward instead of staying stuck in that moment? What are some of the things that you do in your own mind? And I know you've been working on the self-improvement for a very long time, right? Once you get in a moment where you're stuck, how do you work out of it very quickly?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
I'm feeling kind of like we probably should have flown a plane out there and done this in your bar. I mean, look at that. Look at that bar.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
I think it's just super important to your point about whether you meditate or you go for a walk or run or lift some weights. When I find that I don't work out first thing in the morning, I am completely like, it's hard for me to ground, right? So for instance, last night I was feeling sick. There's a stomach bug going around and my kids have it. And I was like feeling queasy.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
I'm like, wife goes, you are not going to work out in the morning. You are going to get some sleep. You're going to sleep until 6 a.m. And you have a recording. So you're not going to the gym. Like I need you to take care of, not the point she was trying to control, but like she wanted me to take care of myself, right? And all day.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Whiskey, yes.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
I'm not, you know, it's like those moments I'm like, okay, I'm not completely grounded. And so I had to go walk around the block for 15 minutes, you know, and reground myself. So to your point there, it's like for the audience listening, the takeaway is whatever grounds you go do it. Because once you get into that, like you disconnect from the issue.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
You don't have the issue anymore. You can work through it and be like, the solution's over here. I'm going to walk that way. I'm going to go towards it, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
I do like whiskey.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Knowing you, you'll probably look at them and go, I can make them better. And you'll start a new venture.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Exactly. You know, it's funny because like you're talking about grounding. I don't ever, I've never really done it. Sometimes I'll walk outside if I'm walking my dogs at night because I'm too lazy to put my shoes on. I'm like, let me see how this feels. And I don't really take the opportunity to connect with it, right? I'm going to try it though because like you said, like the...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Unbelievable.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Oh, man. I wish, you know, for me, I almost to me, I would be like, I wish that was my downfall. For me, Brandy, if I have one piece of chocolate, I have 17.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
I love it. I love it. Let's get back to Wineville, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Because everybody, go watch it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Oh, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My wife either. If it's not a romantic comedy, Randy, she's out. Oh, that's funny. I'm the sicko in the household, right? So I'm excited to see it. I like the crime thrillers. I like horror films to an extent. Yes. But like, you know... it is your baby and I, and I want you to take the time to talk to the audience about it. Say what you can.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
I don't want you to ruin the movie for anybody, but you know, definitely like talk about your passion project because this is something, again, it's your first time directing and producing it. Correct. It's a big freaking deal.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
And drinks. I can be like, all right, that was a good drink and I could be done.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
So it's funny because like, I'm kind of sick like that too. Yeah. Like I like watching, if I get a new, like a Netflix documentary on Charles Manson or the Zodiac, the Zodiac. I mean, cause that's where we grew up. Like, dude, like that, that, that shit happened within 40 minutes of where we live.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Probably. Well, you're lucky. You're lucky. Oh, my goodness gracious. Well, thank you so much for coming on. You've had such an amazing career. You've done multiple things. And what I like to do in the first couple minutes of every show is allow the guests to kind of give the audience a little bit of a background on them for those that may not know exactly who you are. They may not.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Vallejo. Vallejo.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Marine World. That's where you go. Yeah. That's where the Zodiac hung out. It's crazy to me, but like those things, like those...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
You know, chronicling those types of killers, like, you know, and it's great because when we do passion projects, right, when we do things that you're doing with Wineville and, you know, you start with like what you're really interested in, you know, and it's interesting that you went down that path. How did that creative process work with you? I mean, like afterwards, were you super excited?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Did you go down like a... Because I've never acted, right? So I don't... Like getting into a character or getting into like a storyline, how does that work for you?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
hey mom, do this movie on serial killers. Let's collaborate.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Hey, mom, pass the popcorn, you know? It's funny because, like, I was... I don't have that exact same type of story, but I do have something like me and my mom used to watch Friday together like almost every day. It's like, how fucked up is that? Like I'm sitting there watching, like I'm in high school, right? At the most impressionable age. And my mom's like, yeah, let's watch Friday together.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
They're sitting on the porch smoking weed. And meanwhile, I'm 16, 17 years old. Like she didn't think that maybe my son's going to want to do this.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Like that's funny. Like, you know, no, definitely Debo from Friday. But yeah, so like I used to watch and my parents, oh, my parents, when I was young, used to watch America's Most Wanted.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
If they saw some epic scenes, they would know exactly who you are. But yeah, Starsky and Hutch, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Yeah. Until they freaking didn't, and you learn that the killings were happening in your area, and you're like eight years old. I'm like, oh, shit. I don't want to go to bed.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Yep.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
So many of them. So many of them.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Our generation is just destroyed, isn't it? Good Lord. Watching The Exorcist and America's Most Wanted on Friday with their mom.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Cool, man. Really cool. Yeah. And like, and like, here we are now. And I'm like, not letting my son watch, like, is that, what is that? Is that PG or PG 13? Like, what are we, what are we watching?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
You're 11. You can watch that. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Like I'm definitely more on it. Um, but you know, in the same token, there was movies that my parents would go out to see in the movie theater before I went and watched them. Um, but, uh, they went and watched major league. Remember Charlie Sheen?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
I want to see that movie. They went and saw it just to make sure it was appropriate for me. And then let me go see it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
It's like, guys, good Lord. But hey, childhood was good. Childhood was good.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
I was like, wait, that was her. I was like, wow, that's crazy. Um, but, uh, but listen, so please take the time to educate the audience and who Brandi Roderick is.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
That's why we're so creative.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Very well-rounded. Thank you, mom. Thank you, dad. You did a great job.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Kicking ass. This is great. So, okay. So what's next, Brandy? Like what, what, you have any new projects you're thinking about? Where are we going here?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
In the meantime, as far as getting the word out about Wineville, talk to the audience. I know it's everywhere, but specifically direct them on where to go. Because if, if, you know, I know the audience, you know, starts to key in on certain things that we talk about and they're going to want to go watch it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
I think, I think it's important. I don't want to glance over that. Right. Because that's an important thing. There's so many people that are doing their own thing and focusing on their own thing and not really rooting somebody else along. Right. I don't think it's, I don't think there's when you, when that happens, like the energetic flow gets cut off. Right. I, I listened to other podcasts.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
I support my friends. I promote their stuff. I'll share things sometimes, you know, from another show. Like, Oh my God, you didn't have to do that. I'm like, what do you mean? You're my friend and you're doing a great job. Like, you know, how have you, how have you continued? Cause you've done a lot of great things, like continue to keep that at the core value of you and cheering for others.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Yeah. I think it's important. Right. Because like when, when we all break it down, really what it is, it's art. And, you know, what I do is an art. What you do is an art. And we all want to feel seen and heard. But how can we ever expect to feel seen and heard if we're not seeing and hearing others?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
And supporting them.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Yeah. I'm big on that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Exactly. I got, I got somebody that I want to connect you with. They recently put out a good, really good independent film. And then I want to put your movie in his hands and, you know, you kind of like a thing. So like you guys are both watching each other. Like that's, it's exactly what we're talking about. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
100%.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
To the audience. The audience, I want you guys to really go check this movie out, right? And I want you to share it with people. Sit down with some friends and keep talking about Wineville because there's amazing things going on in Brandy's career and things that she's doing. We want to support it. That's why we have her on the show. We want to promote Wineville. Big deal, you know? So...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Absolutely, absolutely. Well, I just want to thank you again for coming on and sharing your journey, first and foremost, about just who you are as a person and some of the things that you believe in. Because what I do know, people that love about the show, The Determined Society, is when people like you come on the show...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
They don't just when they don't just talk about their movies and their projects and they talk about who they are. There is a sense of connection there.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Right. And I know you truly connected with my audience today because you were a lot of your core values are what we talk about here.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
As soon as I know, I will give you a call and let you know when I'm going to be out there, what dates so we can connect. Even if it's for a drink, whatever, we'll be able to connect. That'd be great. Yeah, it'd be awesome. One more question though before we land the plane here. Yeah, one more big question. All right. So the show is called The Determined Society.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
And when I created the show, it was by accident. It was just a Facebook group. It turned into a top podcast on Spotify and Apple. And the premise has always been, I just, me personally, wanted to wake up in a society that woke up and chased their dreams, no matter how they felt emotionally about it. So my question to you is, what does determination truly mean to Brandi Roderick?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
I love it. And it's very simple, right? A lot of people in the audience, I really want to pay attention here is we see this big goal, right? Producing and directing your own movie. If you looked at that goal and it's like you're standing at the base of the mountain and you're looking up, you're like, oh shit. There's no way. That's a big mountain, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
And what I want people to understand is doing the small things every day, right? You don't have to go from A to Z every single day. You can go from A to B. And as long as you move forward, there's no such thing as staying the same. You either move forward or you go backwards. That's truly how I feel, right? And I know a lot of people out there will contest that. That's fine. That's fine.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
They can do that. But for me, you either move forward or you get worse. And as long as you take the steps and you get out of your own head, then it's a successful day. And people define their days, well, I didn't win today. Or did you, right? Because people define wins. They have to feel like people are clapping for them for it to feel like a win.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
And people like you, people like me understand that even doing one thing that's going to move that proverbial football down the field a little bit, that's the win. That's the journey.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
It's so funny because people say, oh, that's a cliche. Well, yeah, for a reason.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
For a very good reason. You cannot build Rome in a day, right? Right. So I really enjoyed this conversation with you. You're my people, my friend, like straight up jacked about this new friendship.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Yeah, NorCal, NorCal. So, but, uh, yeah. So thank, thank you again. Um, I look forward to meeting you in person soon. And, um, for the audience, um, I want you to look at the deeper meaning of today's episode, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
It's always about moving forward in the moment, no matter how you feel in that current state, whether you feel bad or feel good, there is a goal that you have that you have set and it is your job to move forward no matter what. Doesn't matter how you feel. What matters is that you move forward on your dreams. Until next time, stay determined.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
That doesn't suck.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
That was Jason Momoa, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
exciting you know shows and and movies i've been able to do since that yeah i mean like i mean listen for the audience like you know they're that's a big resume right but it started with a gamble her moving to la and understanding what what she had to do right and and yeah and for you that's a that's a big thing right because most people would sit there in that moment and
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Like, I don't know for you is like, I sold everything. You knew exactly what you needed to do. And a lot of people reference Hernan Cortez, burn the boats, right? You want to make sure if you're going to go and you're going to do something, burn that bridge behind you or burn that plan B. So that way, you know, plan A is going to absolutely work out. And that's what you did.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
It's your first time directing and producing it, correct? Yeah. It's a big freaking deal.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Yeah. I love that about you. And it's funny because I've experienced it with you a little bit as well. Right. So we had, I mean, we had a mutual contact connect us and we hadn't had any real communication, talk on the phone a couple of times, but you were always so kind. And I was like, this person is my people.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Because I could tell that you're big on the relationship aspect of, let me peel back the layers and see what this guy's about or this individual's about so I can make sure I nurture this interaction. And I haven't had one interaction with you that has been lifeless. Right. And again, I mean, right? Think about that, though. How many times have you had conversations with somebody?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
I had a conversation with someone earlier and I'm like, were they there? Yeah. Like, was I really, you know, like, so I appreciate that about you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
absolutely yeah i want to cover one thing and then i want to get into wineville all right um so funnily enough you and i did not grow up far from each other oh okay i think you're nevado you're not like florida born and raised cali boy i'm a cali boy oh i grew up in the east bay i grew up in concord oh well i mean my uh i mean my my my
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
That is crazy. Another crazy thing. When I played baseball in junior college, your college was our biggest rival and we could never beat them.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode. I am your host, Sean French. Before I introduce today's guest, please feel free to hit the follow button on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts, and share this episode with a friend that you know would get a lot out of the conversation. So today I have with me Brandi Roderick. She's a 2001 Playmate of the Year.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
No, it was no, no, no, no. Or Santa Rosa.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Yep, yep, yep. I went to Louisiana and played Division I ball after that. But yeah, so small world, right? Like small, small world.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Roughly the same area. Yep. But all right. So one of the biggest things that you've been able to do in your careers is work multiple projects, multiple careers at one time. You've been super effective at it. Most recently with Wineville that is streaming everywhere right now, you are not only the director, but you produce the thing too. So walk us through that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
That's a big project and I'm sure it took a lot of your business savviness, your creativeness. Walk the audience through that journey.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
Wasn't that at the time, sorry to interrupt. Wasn't that also around the time like SAG, there was an issue with SAG too. You had to get approval to do movies and all types of projects. Oh yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth
She is now a director and producer of her own movies. She's an author. She's been in many films, and she's just an incredible businesswoman. So Today, you're going to hear a lot of her story and what she's doing now. And so without further ado, welcome to the show. Hi, how's it going, Sean? It's going good. How are you doing?
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Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
When I say this movie needs to be seen everywhere, and I mean, to me, it's an Oscar nod. Like, I truly mean it. You guys absolutely crushed it, and I really do feel if there's anybody listening, yo, you need to get on this shit. Because the bottom line is, I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it. If this movie is not seen, then the world cannot heal.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Yeah. I think the word feel is super important, right? Because a lot of times people want to skip the feel part, right? And when you're in something like this and you're feeling those moments, it just makes everything much more impactful. It also shows us, you know, towards the end, everything has the opportunity to be okay, right? Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
You know, you know, Bill, your your character, I feel like I want you to answer the other question. I think you already have. But, you know, I do feel like Sam got as happy after ever, ever after, man, you know, towards the end. I thought it was a nice little twist.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Yeah. So I feel like, you know, that character, Samuel got a happy ever after. He had such a hard life and so many things. And then, you know, the wife was there and then, you know, um, You know, the other the other things I don't want to ruin the ending for people, but I probably already did. But but I you know, hey, I'm not perfect.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
But the bottom line is the bottom line is like there was there was a moment where there was a massive pendulum swing. Right. And in in the in whether it was luck or more blessings towards Samuel's character.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
And we have our writer and director. rob rob rob like dude you like rob sayer right it's a sayer without an r but we're here and um man i'm just so happy to be here with you guys and uh i told you guys before filming that i'm in love with the movie
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Well, I think that, I mean, I know that you guys, everybody in the movie impacted me when I watched it. It was phenomenally done. The one thing that I really noticed, and it's so funny because my show is called The Determined Society, and I'm watching this whole movie, I'm like, These are some determined sons of bitches here in this movie because there's a lot of shit going on.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Like, a lot of shit. And it just showed that, you know, in everyone's lives, there are moments where you either have the option to A, either throw in the towel, or B, fight. And everyone in this movie was a fighter, and I... loved it because of that. Right. Because of that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Did you guys feel, I mean, I know determination probably wasn't one of the things that crossed your mind, but, but looking back at it and looking at your characters, how determined, how different were they and, and Rob, how determined were you to write this whole script?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
You're doing great.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
My pleasure.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Oh, you know, I love that shit. That's good. That's good stuff. That's good stuff.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
So hell man, if I quit every time someone laughed at me for wanting to start a podcast, I wouldn't be sitting here with y'all.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Absolutely. I mean, like, again, you know, from opening scene to the very last the very last scene, my it's the name is fitting beyond the rush because my heart was continually going like this. Like it was, you know, Mina, your beginning scene. Right. Like that right there. I was like, oh, my God. Like I knew right then I'm like, my wife is not going to watch this movie with me.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
you know i battled to get a good ending you know something that you don't walk out feeling you know and you could see it man you can see it in that whole battle like you know you know mina you you know you i want i want you to speak on determination now because you've been in this business a very long time i'm sure there was moments that were very frustrating you gotta go bill
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
all right my man yes um thank you sir you're leaving yeah can you believe he's he's he's got he's doing the irish goodbye he's doing that well i'm sure to goodbyes if you didn't say anything i know i know i know we just kind of drifted off hey sending you love man give your give your pops my best man thanks and it's been an honor to be on here really enjoy talking here i'd love to talk more about baseball but thanks so much
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Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Absolutely. Well, we'll do a group thread. We'll do a group thread or something like that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Thank you, brother. So, I mean, again, Mina, you know, you were you've you've been in the industry for a long time and then you've gone through many different roles and probably a lot of different types of rejection and all that good stuff. And your mom. And you're an author.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
How about that one?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Dude, it's constant, isn't it?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Well, I think the important thing, I think the important thing when we're talking about determination, we're talking about pushing through adversity is, is, is really, and I tell this, I say about, I talk about this all the time is doing the next right thing. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
So let's say, you know, you're getting discouraged and there's someone right now watching the show that has followed you your whole career. And the words that come out of your mouth are going to help them. How do they, you know, what would you tell them to do if they're struggling and they're at that point, they just want to quit on their dreams? What would you tell them?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
because she'll have nightmares for the rest of her life. This is going to be all on me to watch. But from that point to, you know, the character you played, Leah, and Bill, you as the lead male, like, I have so many questions, right? Like, first of all, tell me kind of how you guys, what attracted you guys to Beyond the Rush in the first place? Because it is such a dynamic film.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
you know, I, you know, that's, that's all interesting. And, and you're, you're spot on, on every, every bit of it. And it's, it's so crazy because, you know, the, one of the main things was when you get to really know yourself to the core, right. You have to truly know yourself and just understand what your boundaries are and who you are really. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
And I think that a lot of people kind of put the cart before the horse. They want, the self-confidence, they want all the respect, they want to know who they are, but yet they're falling short on their standards that they set out. God bless you. The standards that they set on themselves every single day, right? So if you're going on an introspective journey,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
you know, you're sitting there, okay, every day I'm going to do A, B, and C, right? So you do A, B, and C, no matter how good or bad you feel, right? And this is where the determination kicks in.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Everything that you've gone through in your personal life, everything that Rob's gone through, everything that Bill's gone through, and even myself is, okay, are we going to make the decision to move forward even though emotionally I feel like shit right now? Right. Because because if I don't, if I don't move forward, I'm out of alignment with who I am. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
And I just get further and further away from that person, that man, that woman I'm supposed to be. Right. Whereas to your point, if we keep going and searching for our value, we find it in the work. And a lot of people miss that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
It was amazing because up until the point where you guys are sitting in the living room, right? Samuel is a young boy and then his brother Peter, it was time for your character to go away for a bit to get better. You could see the pain in Leah's eyes and that was the goodness, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
And it's also kind of why if you continue to watch the movie, you're almost, you know, Samuel's conscious throughout the whole movie. And that's the, yeah, it, it, to me, it, it, it made sense.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Yeah, no, absolutely. And kudos to Rob. Cause I mean like what, what you did, not just writing and directing it, but putting everybody in that place to do what they do clearly showed a lot of freedom and creativity and everybody being themselves, you know? So, so Bill, man, like, you know, talk about your character, very complex character, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
I felt like every five seconds and seconds, something was happening to Samuel.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French, and today I have a special, special treat for you. I know I always say that, but wait until you hear this show and watch this show wherever you enjoy The Determined Society. So today I have...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Dude, that's freaking impactful because right from the jump of the movie, right, it's like there was a scene. And right at this certain scene, I'm not going to say it because I want people to watch this and be surprised of what happens in the movie because I feel I love the movie so much I could talk about it and ruin it for everybody.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
But there was a moment there where someone comes up to you and is like, hey, looks like you're doing great. What do we really know about people's lives? Right. What do we really know? So to your point, you know, being able to be introspective, like, wait a second, the whole world is going on right now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Like I'm having this conversation with y'all right now and I have certain problems in my life, but there's somebody down the road that has bigger problems. And what are they going on in their life? Maybe they're the one that cut me off in traffic. I don't know what they're in a hurry for. Maybe I should give them some grace.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
an amazing cast from an amazing film that I just saw and it's an independent film that to me needs to be distributed everywhere on big screen and has major Oscar implications in my mind. It's incredible and these performances from the actresses to the actors and the writing and directing from, it's just a masterful piece. So today I have with me award-winning actress,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
This is impactful because you mentioned, you know, growth and Mina, you mentioned personal growth as well. You like to choose roles that help you grow as a person. So I kind of want to hear from each of you. Well, we'll go Rob and Mina. And then, you know, Bill, you can elaborate on how it helped you grow in your life, just playing these characters and being a part of this production.
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Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
You just let them be the peacocks they are and you let them fly captain. That's what you did, baby. That's what you did. Yeah. You guys know that reference, the other guys. With Will Ferrell and Marky Mark? Oh, yeah. No? Okay. Come on, Mina. Help me out here for crying out loud.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
You like it? Good. It was good. I'm a peacock, Captain. You got to let me fly. I'm a peacock. I'm a peacock. You got to let me fly. Have you ever done a desk pop? What's a desk pop?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
he fires the gun oh that's right that's right that's right yeah yeah just writing the office yeah just boom everybody's done what sorry amina we're we're getting it yeah yeah so she's like it's it's here it's here on that one um She's going to, it's going to come across. She's going to watch the movie over again now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
So, you know, like, again, you, you mentioned that you like to have, you know, the character, you know, play a character that you're truly interested in that can help you grow. How did, how did this impact you, this film overall?
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Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Nina Savari, you have definitely seen her in a lot of films, American Pie, American Beauty, yada, yada, yada. Well, she plays an amazing lead role as the mom, Leah, in this movie, and she absolutely crushes it. And we have... Our man Bill Barrett, who plays Samuel, a very complex character, incredible. I got to tell you, dude, that role, it was very amazing to see that role on screen.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
That's awesome. You know, because I, I, I'm, I'm listening to this. And like when you, when you say, you know, you wake up in the morning, you have a headache, right? You know, I overate on some stuff last night, but I'm not going to lie to you. And I woke up this morning and I had a headache. Exactly. And I'm like, what the hell? And then, and then, and then I woke up and then I had my water.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
Right. And then I had some black coffee. And I just didn't want to touch food until later on in the day. And by that point, I'm underfed. And then I'm not making the best decision moving forward.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
And I think that's the game that everybody's playing in society is what one decision that you make at night really is going to impact how you feel in the morning and impact your decision making throughout the day. And then when it really hurts and you've been there, is it's like at night when you have the decision fatigue and that's when you fall off the rails. That's when you binge.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
And then you start to cycle over.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
And I'm sitting over here, you know, looking at probably the most in shape individual on the face of this earth. Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
Was that because there's a high level of cortisol?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
I would say initial, to be fair, like, oh my God, that's a lot, right? It's a lot. But then when I peeled back the onion a little bit, I was really starting to see the mission, right? The mission of like, hey, we can reverse the aging process and we can have more time on this earth with the ones that we love.
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And you're not giving advice that is, you don't have to be rich to do that. You don't have to be an entrepreneur. You don't have to be anything other than let's just stay present and let's try this. Let's, okay, 8 p.m., now 7 p.m., now 6 p.m. And if I can get away at 5 p.m. and that's my sweet spot, well, then why wouldn't you continue it, right? Right.
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Let me ask you this is something I was thinking about when I was, you know, watching your documentary and, and just like other things that I've seen from you, you know, based on body composition, everything like that. You stop eating at 11 and you're vegan by choice, correct? Yeah, plant based. Okay, plant based. How in the world? How do you hold so much muscle?
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I'm actually curious because I think there's a, and this is why I asked the question for the audience listening and watching. This is why I ask because everybody tells us that you need to have, you know, right now I'm 198 pounds. Well, if I want to gain all this muscle and shred fat, then I need to have 250 to 300 grams of protein a day.
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Well, I can't get that by 11 or even probably 4 or 5 p.m., right? Because that's a lot of protein. What are your thoughts on that? Because when I look at you, you're plant-based. There's no way in God's green earth you're getting over 200 to 250 grams of protein a day.
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And look at you.
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And I just, I adore the fact that you've pretty much turned yourself into a guinea pig to help
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When you say 130 grams of protein, if you don't mind me asking, what's your lean mass? What's your lean mass at? You know, I need to look at that number. I don't know. I mean, it's high, right? I mean, obviously. But no, these are just things that I like to ask, right?
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Yeah, you're very lean. And is that including visceral and brain and all that kind of stuff?
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100%.
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Wow. Wow. That's impressive, man. That's impressive. You know what happens when I eat a lot of protein? I get gout in my ankles.
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It's, my wife was saying, you know, we're going to dive into his blueprint. My wife, she's all in it, man. She watched it with me. And I told her I was interviewing you today. And she was very intent of like, I think I want to dive into this. I want to dive into this. She goes, are you open? I'm like, well, of course I'm open. I have three beautiful children and a beautiful wife.
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I want to be around. I'm 46. I'm roughly the same age as you. And I'm just now starting to get healthier again. And when I look at you, I'm like, wow, that's something that's possible. you know, in later in age, right. That, that I'm in. And I think there's a lot of people out there that even listening to the show right now can really get a whole lot out of him. Like, Hey, wait a second.
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I can feel better. I can sleep better. I can look better and I can live just a little bit longer.
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Dude, of you? I mean, everybody's pretty much blown away, man. I mean, they're very excited about this episode being recorded and going out because what I think you've done is create an undercurrent of what everybody really wants, right? Everybody wants more time on this earth and nobody wants to really get sick But I think the big disconnect, Brian, is... There's many things that stuck with me.
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I think too, I keep going back to this, but the wake up in the morning, right? I know when I'm eating super clean and I'm exercising a lot that I'll wake up in the morning and I just jump out of bed and I'm good, right? What's the biggest difference? I felt good waking up in the morning, but I'm very curious on how you feel when you wake up.
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I just feel like, Brian, your mission in life right now is to show people how to gain a little bit more time. As a parent and a husband, I've said this on my show many times, and I've even said it here, I want to be around longer for my children. I want to see my daughters walk down the aisle. I want to hold my grandchildren. Hell, I want to be a great grandparent one day.
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And I think that too many people in the world have just accepted that this is just the way it is and I'm going to die soon. And it is what it is. But we can reverse that a little bit. And I think that's all you're trying to prove.
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That's wild. That is wild. Because when you started it, you, out of 12 months, you age 1.01 years, right? Exactly. And then you got down to, you know, you were saying like, hey, you know, November, you know, September, like whatever, the last three months you get for free. Now you've exceeded that.
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But one comment that you made on your show was, I used to eat with my mind and now I eat with my body. I'm like, holy shit. Hold on a second. What does that actually mean? Because when you look at that, it causes for a different action, right? And... In my circle, at least, they're very intrigued and very excited. Now, I know you've caught a lot of hate. I mean, you know that.
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Impressive, man. I am super intrigued by all of this, as you can tell. You're out there, you're touring the world, right? And you're at your Don't Die Summit. You're going to be in Miami soon. And I think that's an amazing way to give back and show people the resources, right? It's not just a keynote. You're up there on stage and you bang out on your PJ afterwards.
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You're there, you're mixing it up, you're talking to people, and you're going to see the vendors. Thank you
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Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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You've talked about it openly. And I kind of find it comical, to be quite honest with you.
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None of my friends have burned anything of you, dude. Not one. Not one. I watched the documentary with my wife and she's like, wow, that's a lot. She goes, but hey, can we just do some of this? Yeah. Because we can't set up a lab in our house. And I'm like, I get it. But for my circle, there's been no burns on you. Everybody's just intrigued.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, I mean, walk the audience through that though, right? Because what does that actually, you know, we can say it, right? But I'm also curious to dive deeper into that because I've made a lot of improvements lately, but there's still a ton I can do because I still, we're emotional beings, right? So for me, if I'm happy, I wanna eat, I wanna celebrate. If I'm sad, I wanna eat because I'm down.
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thing that i really enjoyed is that he was getting in it with you you know he was like you know he he at one point he's like hey can i go can i go get my pills now like can i can i do this and you could just see the connection there between the two of you and don't worry man i i would cry in a target too like i i brother i'm that guy don't don't worry man i i probably have I probably have.
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But again, man, thank you so much for coming on. I truly enjoyed having this conversation with you. I would love to keep the communication open with you and continue to learn from you and all that good stuff, man. You're doing big things and I appreciate you. Thanks, Sean. I really enjoyed hanging out with you. Yeah, me too, man. Me too. Me too. It was great.
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So for the audience, I need you guys to do me a quick favor. I need you to drop a comment here on YouTube or on Spotify and tell us what you really enjoyed about the episode. But more than anything, please share it with someone that you know, love and trust that wants to have a better life, improve their longevity and be around their people a little bit longer. And until next time, stay determined.
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So, but that's all mental and you have disconnected from your mind, right?
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But I think what I enjoy most about it, right, is like, yes, you have this whole elaborate setup and everything like that. But what you're really doing is you're just showing by making changes, you can reverse the aging of your organs, right? And I think it's hard for a lot of people to really...
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I think except because like, wait a second, you know, am I really living if I'm doing all this and not being out there living, but, but, but they're missing it. Yes. They're missing it.
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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French, and before I introduce today's guest, please go ahead and hit follow on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts, and let us know what you loved about today's guest. So today I have with us a longevity expert, a man who has set out to literally say don't die.
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It's, I'm like, I'm, my mind's going a lot of different places when you're, when you're speaking about that. But the one particular place that I want to speak about is, you know, to your point, the YOLO, right? We're going to go party and we're going to go do all these things. We're going to work ourself till we're miserable and not have enough space to be present with our families, et cetera.
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Right. That's okay. Society accepts that. Society accepts seeing people on social media drinking, talking about porn, all this different stuff, but it's taboo to want to live longer? How is that? I mean, right, Ryan? Like, go on, man. Like, what are your thoughts on that? Like, how do you work through that and how do you educate people on that specific point?
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you know, like, well, dude, I mean, like, I mean, but for most people, like, I mean, it was even in your doc, like, you know, the view was bashing you. Like one lady is like, F you Brian. It's like, you're, you're missing it. And I, and I, and I think what it, what it did though, I think what it did, Brian, and I tend to look at things deeply.
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That's why I didn't miss that one statement in your, in your documentary is like, You remind people that they aren't doing the right stuff. I know, it's true. And it's a threat. Yeah. Especially to the medical industry. Because we all know there's no gain, there's no profit in healthy people.
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Yeah, I think what makes, I mean, I think beyond the obvious, your intelligence and the things that you're doing make you very appealing to the layperson is you've been overweight, Brian. You've been, I mean, I look at things from you back in the day, you know, over at Braintree Venmo before you sold to PayPal. It's like the dude doesn't even look the same.
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He's created the Don't Die Summit and the Blueprint. I have with us Netflix's own Brian Johnson, what's up, brother? Hey, good to see you. It's so good to see you, man. It's so good to see you. I've seen so many things from you. I feel like I already know you. How do I match up in real life? Well, dude, you're as handsome as ever, okay?
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Like it's not even, it's not, it's not even like a body issue, right? It's like the face, the hair, the skin, the everything. I think it would be important for the audience to maybe walk them through how you felt post Braintree to lead you to where you're at right now.
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But what we get to do every single day is do the next right thing, okay? And what I ask myself every single day now, is what is the next right thing? I'll be fully transparent. Recorded a show before this. I wanted to push the cello off until the next day. My team's like, you need to do it. And I thought, you know what? It's the next right thing. So we did it. I'm happy as hell I did it, right?
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Because it was supposed to happen, right? So whenever you're doing something, always do the next right thing. I don't care if it's your kids wanting more blueberries. Go get them more blueberries because that's the next right thing. They could be asking for something different.
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And here's the one thing that I've learned, and my wife is diligent at this, better than me, will always be better than me in this. But she strives to help me. And I consider myself a really good dad. But to understand that the kids aren't going to always need us.
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that this short time that they are here right now at 11, eight and six years old, I need to cherish these moments because soon they won't need me for everything anymore. And that's scary. That makes me emotional because there's times where I cook a full meal and my kids want more. I'm like, God dang it, man. I just spent two hours in this damn kitchen. But you know what?
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My littlest ain't gonna be six forever or five forever, right? My oldest isn't gonna be 11 forever. And my middle daughter who's eight, she's gonna be 13 before I blink. And that means my son's driving. And that means my youngest is 10. It's wild, guys, the way life is. But we need to cherish every moment of it.
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And I need you to attack every single day from here on out with absolute intentionality. That's what I want for you. Don't worry about what's going to come of it. Don't judge the interaction. Don't judge the opportunity. Just get in the damn room and work it. Go meet people. Do the next right thing. And don't do anything that is going to take you further away from your ultimate prize.
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Only you know what that is. Doesn't have to be about money. Doesn't have to be about fame. Shit, it could be being the best teacher on the planet. Don't let any day take away from that striving for that journey every single second. Because I'm going to tell you something. The moment you look at that top of the mountain, you're cooked. You're cooked. You're going to literally fall back.
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You have to look at things in micro-movements every single day. Decision, decision, decision. You make all those choices and decisions and then you can go to bed happy and you know through that whole day you've primed yourself making the right decision so when that alarm clock goes off at 4 a.m. or 6 a.m., you're up. It's non-negotiable. Do not focus on your ultimate goal consistently.
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I hate to break it to you, it's gonna happen. So here's the recap of the year. It started in my den, just like any other year in my den recording virtual shows. And while all that stuff was really, really cool, I just felt like this show needed another dimension. And so I set the intention out there thinking like, who can I meet?
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Focus on doing the right things to get you there. So with that, guys, I hope this made sense for you. Sometimes when I speak, it doesn't make sense to me. But when I listen to it back, I'm like, shit, I was on to something. So I hope it hit for you guys. You know, just. Just know that we're all struggling in our own ways. Ain't nobody perfect.
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You know, like my boy Joe Pavich, he has this sign in his laundry room. Let your life be as good as it looks like on Facebook. Right. And like, look, none of us are trying to make it look better than it is. But I'm not going to be the guy that brings you all my troubles and is crying on a camera all the time. You hear my struggles here on this show.
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This is the platform where I choose to share that. And then the things that go out on social media are just moments that we decide are the best to highlight these episodes. Right? And then try not to depress you guys too much. by everything that's going on, right? Because we all, like I said, we all struggle. We're all going through the shit, right? So this is my encouragement to you.
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No matter how alone you feel, no matter how bad you think you're losing, you're freaking not. Until next time, stay determined.
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Who can I meet that can help me add more dimensions to what we're doing? Take the show to live scenarios or live events and do things in a studio and have amazing production quality and actually have a team that is behind me to kick ass when I'm sleeping. And that's what we ended up doing. But first... January through March, it was that search.
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Met a great dude named Pat Sickens, who eventually became my partner and helped me see that this show is not just what I thought it was, but it is more than what I thought it was. And the opportunity to bring this to a wider audience in a different way is just, it was, the opportunity was endless.
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And I would say right around March, we solidified some things moving forward with a couple other partners, Ryan Sherry and Brandon Seiler, to where we could tap into other networks, right? And we can make this thing bigger and we can reach more people and have more access.
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to higher end you know talent celebrities whatever right for us to interview and give to you guys so you could have a good idea of what all these other people were doing to keep them going because the one thing that we do notice is we think that they don't have any problems but they also have problems just like us and they have to work through shit just like you and i all right so we were able to do that right and that's what we've learned in this show from day one to now all
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But let me back up. So in March, we decided, you know what? We're going to take this thing live. We're going to go to venues. And we started at the Omni, where I'm right now, the Omni Performance Center in Fort Myers, Florida. I'm in their human performance lab doing a little show here.
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But we came here, and it was such a cool way to interact and do shows in person because I had never done them in person before. And it's a completely different energy, right? And so in order to do that, it took a large amount of risk.
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The risk to move it from my den when I was paying $110 a week to edit this show to thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars to have this amazing setup, to have this great production crew, to have great partners, to have great sound, to do all this stuff to bring you guys the best show possible, right? but it came with a lot of risk. See,
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That to me was the buy-in and it was scary. And at times it's still scary, right? Because when you have to put, or when you get to put so much into something financially or emotionally, a lot of times there comes with that, oh shit, am I doing the right thing?
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And I hate to tell you, if you're thinking that ever, then you probably are doing the right thing because your mind is wired to keep you safe. And if your mind starts talking to you, telling you, should you be doing this? Then I want you to do one thing and one thing only. Take your foot and put the gas pedal down, right? Because everything will eventually work out, right?
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But in order to have all of that and all of this that we've done since June, We had to seriously monetize. And I'm sorry, for those of you that are doing podcasts out there, you guys know how fucking hard it is to monetize your show. It is difficult, it is painful, and a lot of times you feel like it's never going to happen. I want you to know something. It will happen.
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For those of you that are doing podcasts out there, you guys know how fucking hard it is to monetize your show. It is difficult. It is painful. And a lot of times you feel like it's never going to happen. Or when you get to put so much into something financially or emotionally, a lot of times there comes with that, oh shit, am I doing the right thing?
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But you got to be fucking stubborn, man. You got to be that person, that man, that girl that sits there and says, no matter what, come hell or high water, I'm going to figure this thing out. And you search the internet late at night, early in the morning, constantly, constantly, constantly trying to figure out what's next. because you know you wanna build something.
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Well, I can tell you that the answers come when you're least expecting it. And what we've done is we've put everything together and you'll start to see when you listen to the show now, a lot more ads coming through. And again, I don't want this to disrupt your listening experience, but this is what I do. This is my career, this is my job.
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And in order for me to continue to do it, we gotta do what we gotta do. But we're bringing you premium ads. And if you've listened today or in the last three or four weeks, you've already heard them. And if you're still listening, I appreciate you. But the bottom line is there was multiple times this year that I felt like this show's probably going to shut down if I don't monetize.
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because it's expensive. It is not cheap guys. It is not cheap. And so for all of you that are out there thinking like you, you want to do this, but you don't want to spend the money. Sometimes you're going to have to spend a little bit of money and you don't have to go all in right away. You can build up to that. But isn't that like anything guys?
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When you decided you were going to have kids, when you were going to finally take that promotion, you had to make sure you were ready. So the whole year was about me going through a lot of bumps and bruises. And listen, we don't have it all figured out. Like we still struggle. Like there's a lot of pain points in this business that my partners and I
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really talk about on a daily basis, me and my production crew, we talk about on a daily basis where I can improve, where the show can improve. And I will say this with 100% certainty and confidence that the quality of the show right now is the best it's ever freaking been.
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And I hate to tell you, if you're thinking that ever, then you probably are doing the right thing because your mind is wired to keep you safe. And if your mind starts talking to you, telling you, should you be doing this? Then I want you to do one thing and one thing only. Take your foot and put the gas pedal down.
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The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
It is the best, hands down, no doubt, from the sound quality to all the clips coming out, to the show notes, to the guest sourcing, to the visuals. We're growing and it's fun. And there's so many people that have been with me from the very beginning. I got a message from my boy, Tom, and I'm gonna tell you his last name now, because I've shouted him out a couple of different shows.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
But Tom Williams texted me today, yet again, giving me the most amazing feedback for the show that dropped this week. I absolutely love that. I wish more people did it, right? Because then I know it's connecting. But it wasn't without struggle, guys. And while this may seem, you know, rambling and kind of all over the place, well, isn't that freaking life?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
You know, one minute you're over here, the next minute you're over there and you think you got it and then you're knocked down a peg. That's what we deal with here. And that's why we're called the Determined Society, you know. So we got a lot of amazing things going on with the show now. And again, you will continue to see it. You will see the level up. It will not stop.
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The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
But the thing that we also struggle with or that I struggle with this year, and you've heard me talk about it consistently, was getting back in shape, getting my body right, getting my mind right. And all the time that I was talking about all of this, I knew it was a problem. I knew there was a problem I had, but I wasn't ready or willing to take the freaking action. And what did I get?
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The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
I had a cloudy mind. Maybe some of my past interviews could have been better if I was more on and focused, right? So I apologize to you or the guests if it wasn't great, but I think we did okay. I didn't hear anything bad. But I recently, a couple of weeks ago, decided like, hey, now's the time. Why am I waiting? I don't know if I'm going to be hit by a bus tomorrow.
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The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
I know it's morbid, but hell, man, we don't know. Nothing is guaranteed in this life. So I went to my buddy Jeff Delaney. I said, hey, man, fix me, dude. Just fix me. Whatever I need to do, I'm going to do it. You just tell me. Tell me what I need to eat. Tell me what I can't eat. Just please help me.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
And at that moment, I decided to have a face-to-face accountability session with a good friend, right? With a really good friend. And now I go there every week for a check-in in person and they hold me accountable. And I'm happy to report like I'm ending the year where most people gain all the weight. I'm losing all the weight. I'm down probably 15 to 20 pounds in two weeks.
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The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
I know it sounds crazy, but when you do it the right way, you can have energy and you can shed weight. And I'm just so grateful because I feel like finally I'm transforming myself again. And you could probably hear more energy in my voice too. I feel like I'm 20.
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The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
Although when I do wake up at 4 a.m., I feel like I'm actually 46 because my ankles and my knees and my heels, all that shit hurts until about 4.15, right? Until I'm moving around. But I just want you guys to know that this year has been full of challenges and full of wins. And I just think that if you really dig deep enough and think about your own life, your own life in 2024?
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The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
Where did you struggle? Where have you been committed in staying when you know you need to move? Where are those things in your life? Where are you crushing it, right? And ask yourself why you're crushing it in those areas because those characteristics and those things that you're doing over there that you're killing it in need to be brought over here to the thing that you're neglecting.
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The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
So this whole time where I'm building the show with my team and my production crew, this is what I've been dialed in on. This is what I've been focused on. This is what I've been intentional about. Well, I needed to take that and bring it back to my health. And that's how we grow, guys.
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The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
Now, ever since that started taking place, more opportunities are coming my way because now I'm more aligned with who I want to become. right? So no matter where you're at right now, excuse me guys, no matter where you're at right now, you could be in the darkest part of your life. I want you to know you're literally one decision away.
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The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
You're one decision away from making the move out of that dark time. Now, are you going to make one move and it'd be fixed? No shit. No, that'll never happen guys. Okay. But what you can do is you can, if you, if it's eaten at you,
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The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
I need to wake up earlier or I need to wake up and read, then, then please, please tomorrow morning, wake up and read, wake up and take the walk, wake up and go to the gym, wake up and have that protein shake, whatever it is. It doesn't matter. Wake up and tell your wife that you love her. Wake up and tell your husband that you love her. Like all these things, guys,
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The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
You do them once and then you do them again and again and again. And those are stackable wins. Those are repeated behaviors. And when all those repeated behaviors start to compound, that's when you start to see the results. So don't get discouraged by the one day where you did everything right, but then the next day you didn't do anything right and you didn't see the result, right?
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The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
It's got to be consistent, right? And it's gotta mean something to you. You gotta have something on the line here, right? So we can sit there and talk about 2025 and what it means to you and what your resolutions are. No, we're not gonna do that. We're gonna talk about the journey.
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The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
I want you to pick a journey for yourself, whether it be personal, spiritual, physical, emotional, financial, whatever it is. Pick that journey and start to attack the shit out of it. Once you attack it, start bringing all those principles that are working into every other pillar, okay?
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The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
And talk to me after two to three, even two to three weeks, and tell me that you don't feel sharper, that you don't feel better, and that you're not operating better on a daily basis, and I would disagree with you. Because if you're doing it right, And you're giving full intention to everything that you're doing. You're going to win. It may not happen as quickly as you want.
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The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
Shit, none of this happened as quickly as I want. And I'm still not where I want to be. But this is going on four years now. And I would say the first three years is crickets. No one cared. That's how I felt. It's not true. So if you're one of those individuals that cared, I'm not saying you didn't. But my perception was, low listener rate, like no engagement, just wasn't a thing yet, okay?
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The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Determined Society. Today's just me. I'm doing a show to end the year, to give you kind of a recap of what has gone on, some of the bad things, some of the good things, and just things that we really struggled with, but I feel like we've come out of. And when you go through any type of growth scenario, you're gonna freaking struggle.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Rollercoaster Year: Struggles, Triumphs, and Staying Determined
But then the last year, it started to kind of uptick. And in the last six months, it has come on crazy and strong. And you know what? I'm glad it didn't happen back then because I wasn't ready for it. Now I feel I have perspective, right? So I guess what I'm trying to say in this whole episode is, Your 2024 was good and it was bad, so was mine, right?
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
I love the expansion, right? And I love the fact that you're talking about, you know, really the team that's built around you, the best in the world, the best in class. And then the most important thing that I want the audience really to dial in on is, you know, there was a lot of adversity at the beginning stages of the Deservator, constantly getting denied.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
But what they did is they found the solution on starting it, right? So there's always a solution, right, Gil? It's like, okay, if this is the issue, how do I... Calm the mind down. How do I take the emotion out of it? Okay, if they're worried about it starting there and combusting and starting a fire, well, how can I remove that from the equation? So that's not the argument anymore, right?
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
And I just think that more entrepreneurs really need to rewind back and listen to that portion of this episode again, because it's not about convincing people that you're right. It's about finding the solution to take that one part of the equation completely out.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
And that's important, right? Because we can, we can say every no brings you closer to a yes, but until it's articulated, just how you articulate it, people listening, they can't really connect it, but it's like you literally went through multiple stages to get this thing approved. You found the people that you could team up with.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
You found the right solution because if they would have said yes, maybe something, maybe something would have happened. Right. They said no. And you put a bigger team around you. Yeah. It costs, you know, you know, not literally a few more dollars, but you know what I mean? A couple hundred thousand dollars more, but now it's right. Right.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
And now you sold to, you know, the elevator company and now that you can go throughout the whole world and, and sell the patent. So man, like that, that's pretty big, but that's because you kept going.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
worked it worked yeah sure did that's where the disconnect is though gail like you know people um they see people like you and they're like well of course it's easy to say or they come to me like of course it's easy for you to say you have a big show it wasn't always that big right it wasn't always the case i had to find ways to to grow when i didn't have a budget when i didn't have certain things
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
Right. So it just, I love here. I love when my guests share these, these moments of adversity with the audience, because then they can connect it to what they're going through right now in real life.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
Well, it's so funny because most people think it's like these big, massive movements every day, right? It's like, okay, I got to go from A to Z every single day, right? And they're probably thinking that's what Gil had to do. But really what it is, it's little process movements.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
And as long as you can retire every night saying, okay – I moved it down the field a little bit more, right? I did the right small steps to get to the ultimate goal, which is Z, of getting this done. And I just think too many people try to go to AZ every single day, and you just can't do that.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
How does somebody like you with the, you're a visionary, right? So you can see something before it's completed and you know, it's going to take seven, eight years for this thing to come to full fruition where you can put your hand on it. How do you go through and how do you manage delaying that gratification?
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It's done, right? Because cutting corners is going to cost you more.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
I love it, man. It's about learning the lesson, right?
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
Look, man, I know the environment. I live in Florida, too. It's almost comical to me that more people aren't doing that because it is very wet. Yeah, I mean, it's wet.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
Hell, I live in one of those.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
Yeah, they throw them shits together quick, bro.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
You have to. You know? But when you're the homeowner building it, you're like, sweet, seven months. This is great.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
What quarters are we freaking skipping here, man? Right. You learn it on the walkthrough, right? It's like, well, this is wrong. This is wrong. Like, shit. I was dealing with things for a whole year.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
Oh, man. It was a journey, my man. It was a journey.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
That's the one thing that I found interesting because I was doing some reading and I noticed that you stay really close to your communities post-closing. You know, and that just, that's brand, right? That's, that's collaboration with the homeowner. I mean, these people are paying a lot of money for these properties. It's just, you know, to me, it just makes sense.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
I'm selling a brochure. Yes. And I think that's something, man, that a lot of businesses don't take into account. When a consumer looks at something, they're looking at the only marketing piece that they have. They're looking at what's this going to look like? What's it going to feel like? And most people fail to deliver that rendering.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
A mortgage burning ceremony.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
And that's awesome. That's so awesome, man. I just, I need to come over and see it. You should definitely should. Yeah, man. We'll, uh, we'll definitely connect and we'll have to do that for sure. Um, as we land the plane, I want you to talk a little bit about the Bentley residences. I know we've mentioned it, but I really want to give this opportunity for you to talk about it.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
If you're open to it, just, you know, and, and, and give the audience a little bit, a little bit of information of what's to come.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
That's some wild shit. How does one – what are the semantics on that? How would you be able to block –
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
It's just everything is so innovative, man. It's exciting. It's, you know, if I'm a resident that's moving into one of these things, it's an exciting experience, right?
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
Yeah, I wish more people were dialed into that. Like, hey, would I buy this? Would I tell my mother or my grandmother, like, hey, absolutely, go buy that. People are so interested in turning a quick dollar and cutting costs wherever they can so the margin's larger. What you're doing out here is creating an experience, something that you would also live in, and the results speak for itself.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
Yeah, man. Well, I look forward to getting over there and meeting you in person. You know, we'll definitely have to have a drink and you take me up and down the elevator, but it would just be great to connect with you in person. And I'm super, super excited to see, you know, the project to its entirety and just really dive into more things that you guys are doing.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
Well, the other thing too, is like, I'm like, we're going to do this and laughing because I lived in a high rise on a river in Fort Myers. Okay. When my wife was pregnant with our youngest and, When we bought it, we were super excited because we had a nice view. It's Fort Myers. It's the Caloosahatchee River. It's the best you're going to get where we are, right? Unless you're on the beach.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
I don't want to be there. Not in the Gulf. The first time that we were in grocery shopping, Gil, I hated my freaking life, dude. I'm sitting there in my vehicle. I'm like, all right, cool. I'm like, Like, how am I going to get this up? I'm like, so I got to go five trips up and down an elevator to get my groceries up there. Finally, I got a cart, obviously, and did that.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
And then I was like, you know, we're doing Instacart. I'm not doing anything.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
Love it, man. I mean, that's a good experience, right? For the residents that are there, they really feel that they're, Hey, look, I'm on vacation here.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
That's awesome. Well, look, thank you so much for coming on, talking about what you guys are doing, and providing the audience a different feel of things, right? I haven't had a developer on before, and this is really cool direction. And I'm excited to be able to get this out and to educate everybody on Desert Development and what you guys have been doing. Much appreciated, my friend.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
Much appreciated. Thank you. Well, listen, everybody, if you got something out of the episode, which I think you did, share this episode with a development expert. Share it with someone who loves cars. Share it with somebody who loves luxury living and loves luxury living in South Florida. And if you're looking to relocate, now you know where to go. All right. So contact Desert Development.
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Their website will be in the show notes. And until next time, guys, stay determined.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
I love it. No, thank you for that. You know, I always like the guests to go through a little bit about their background and what it is they're doing to give the audience more context coming from my guests. The one thing that... There's many things that, as you're going through, that are hitting me. But the one that I really want to focus on is your ability to, like you said, drop ego, right?
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
And these brand partnerships are massive. So how... There's not a lot of developers, like you said, that are okay with not having their name on the building. So how did you work your way through that? Because to me, that is genius and it's disruptive, but it is also necessary.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
Sharp French, what up?
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
Yeah, I mean, that tower, for the audience, he's referencing the Deservator, right? So literally, it's registered with that Deservator. So it'll read your car plate, correct? And then it brings you in and then it takes you up to your residence and parks you in the living room.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
And the reason why that's important is, as you mentioned, the privacy, there's some high profile people that live in this building. And like, look, if they want to go get a coffee in their robe or whatnot, they get in their car and they just go. They don't have to deal with that kind of stuff. So that's that's disruptive thinking. That's amazing.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode. I'm your host, Sean French. Today I have with me an amazing man, a businessman that's changing the face of South Florida living, the president of Desert Development, Gil Desert. What's up, baby?
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
It just seems like there's more of an experience, right? I mean, if you're going to live in premium, isn't it the largest oceanfront property in South Florida?
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
The thing that I really enjoy about this is from an outside perspective, Gil, like you're in it, you're building this, you understand why. But for somebody like myself that's on the outside, there's so much value that is built in and really kind of points of like,
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
in awe of of what you've created with that porsche tower now doing it again with the bentley residences right because there's gonna be a deservator in there like that experience to me is just i look at it and i'm like does this guy really understand what he's doing like and and i don't mean that in a condescending way i mean like the the the like how big it actually is
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
Hey, man. Good to have you. You're doing so many amazing things. It's like, you know, I live in Florida, right, on the West Coast and go to Miami often with the family. See all these beautiful buildings, right? All these cool things on the oceanfront. And I never really know who's behind them. But now I'm sitting with the guy, the man that is responsible for these beautiful things.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. And let me ask you a question because you said, you know, why hasn't the world seen it then? What do you think it is? Like, why do you think more buildings aren't adopting this? Where do you think the hang up is?
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
what people don't understand is when they do smear campaigns, like don't buy in a Porsche building because you're never going to be able to get to the opera. All they're doing is saying, go look at the Porsche building, go check it out. It's almost your best, your best marketing at that point, especially if it's next door, like, well, we're here, let's go check it out over there.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
And also to your point, the human mind and I, and I'm like you, I'm, I'm an internal optimist, like probably too optimistic. Um, if I say I want to do something, I don't tend to think of all the things that can go wrong. I'm intentional on what can go right. So I stay in that frequency. But so many people, entrepreneurs in general, they go through this thing. What if it doesn't work?
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
What if this breaks? What if it's not seen? And so I'd like for you, dude, because you've done so many amazing things. Like, Tell the audience how they can get through that thought process because this show is based on the premise of being determined.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
So I'm super excited to have you on the show.
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
And everything that you've accomplished in your company and the buildings you're building, there's a massive amount of determination involved because it's not always easy. So how would you help them?
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Luxury Living Redefined With Gil Dezer
Hey, heck yeah, man. Heck yeah. So listen, for the audience listening that may live in Iowa or California that doesn't know much about you or Desert Development, can you give them a little background on what it is that you do?
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The Michael Little Story - From Foster Care to Real Estate Mogul | The Determined Society
I'm here live in Norfolk, Virginia, doing an event with my boy Michael Little called Determine Your Destiny. We're super excited about it. So my guest tonight is Michael Little. He's a principal owner of Iron Valley Real Estate. He's a bestselling author. Broker from the bottom. And you're going to absolutely dig this guy's story. He's an absolute champion. He's a warrior.
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The Michael Little Story - From Foster Care to Real Estate Mogul | The Determined Society
Lass mich kurz interagieren. Für alle, die es gesehen und gehört haben. Everything's incredible. I literally knew some of the story just because we're friends. But sitting here with you in this room and listening the last 12 and a half, 15 minutes of the whole story, a lot of it, I'm sure it's not the whole story. It's like bullet points. Yeah, it's bullet points.
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The Michael Little Story - From Foster Care to Real Estate Mogul | The Determined Society
Weißt du, da würde ich aufhören, Mann. Das eine Moment im Publikum, wenn du, wenn du das Moment vergessen hast, er wollte aus der Navy ausgeschlagen werden. Und Mr. Cook, das ist der Chef, oder? Chef. Chef Cook. Chef Cook setzt ihn runter und sagt, was wirst du tun, wenn du nach Hause nach Ohio gehst? Wirst du nach McDonalds arbeiten und Drogen verkaufen? Ja. Was wirst du tun?
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The Michael Little Story - From Foster Care to Real Estate Mogul | The Determined Society
Sei der Beispiel für deine Familie. Und Alter, das war der pivote Moment. Ich bin sicher, dass Leute Dinge anschauen können und sagen, nein, es war dieser Moment im Geschäft, es war dieser Revenue Target, es war diese Partnerschaft, es war das Verbrechen von der anderen Partnerin. Nein! Das war der Moment, an dem dieser Mann dich in einen Mann gewechselt hat.
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The Michael Little Story - From Foster Care to Real Estate Mogul | The Determined Society
No, I understand it because I've come to that spot in a lot of different areas, right? It's like, you know, and that's what led me here. That's what led me here to do my show and to create the brand and to, you know, scale it so quickly, which it feels like it's been a hundred fucking years. It's been four, right? And in the last year and a half, it's been exponential, what we've done.
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The Michael Little Story - From Foster Care to Real Estate Mogul | The Determined Society
Und ich lege es alle an die Zeit, während Covid, als alles geschlossen wurde, und ich bemerkte, dass ich in besserer Form werden muss. Ich muss etwas über mich herausfinden. Es gibt diese Leerheit innerhalb von mir, in der ich nicht viel Vertrauen habe. Vielleicht war es, weil ich, weißt du, als ich jung war und ich keinen Vater hatte, bis ich neun war.
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The Michael Little Story - From Foster Care to Real Estate Mogul | The Determined Society
Ich weiß nicht, was die echte Antwort ist, aber ich weiß die Geschichte, die ich mir erzählt habe. Für mich war es wichtig, wirklich hineinzukehren, denn egal, was ich gemacht habe, war ich immer unglücklich und wollte mehr. Jetzt bin ich super kompetent mit mir selbst. Ich will mehr tun. Letztes Jahr gab es 1,3 Millionen Lesungen. Dieses Jahr will ich 3 Millionen aus dem Wasser werfen.
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The Michael Little Story - From Foster Care to Real Estate Mogul | The Determined Society
And you're going to be so impressed with what he's overcome in his early life to become the badass entrepreneur and human being, father and husband and friend he is today. So without further ado, Michael Little, welcome to the show. Sean, how are you, man? Thanks for having me. I appreciate you putting me on your platform. This is pretty cool. Bro, I appreciate you putting me on your platform.
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The Michael Little Story - From Foster Care to Real Estate Mogul | The Determined Society
Ich bin kompetent mit mir selbst. Ich war glücklich mit dem 1.3. Organische Ausgaben. Nein, ich habe keine 10-Granaten-Marketing, wie all diese anderen Katzen da draußen. Ich mache das. Wir haben diese Scheiße gebootstrappt. Es hat mich Jahre gedauert, eine tolle Produktionsteam zu bekommen, die mit mir zusammenkommen kann und mit denen ich Freunde sein kann und tatsächlich bezahlen kann.
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The Michael Little Story - From Foster Care to Real Estate Mogul | The Determined Society
Aber es kam in diesem einen Moment, als ich durch meine Reise in 2020 ging, war es so, Ich bin nicht glücklich. Ich war in den Krankenhäusern. Ich habe ungefähr 1,25 Millionen Dollar gemacht. Das fühlt sich leer an. Ja. Ja, bin ich die Ärzte zu helfen? Bin ich die Patienten zu helfen? Absolut. Aber für mich war es einfach so, ich habe hier nichts mehr zu tun. Es ist etwas Größeres.
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The Michael Little Story - From Foster Care to Real Estate Mogul | The Determined Society
Und wenn du darüber sprichst, verstehe ich es komplett, weil ich es gefühlt habe. Und jetzt bist du in deinem Wheelhouse und jetzt bin ich in meinem Wheelhouse. Es ist so, dass das mein Ziel ist, das ganze Zeit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
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We're here in Virginia Beach, Norfolk, here to do this amazing event that you've put together. We only met a short time ago. So I'm grateful as well. I appreciate it. Thanks for coming. Hell yeah, dude. We've had one nice meal so far. We went to the commune. Okay.
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Weißt du, was ich meine? Alter, es ist lustig, weil es alles zurückgeht, chief cook be the example set the example for your family and so it's funny what i'm gonna say i'm gonna warn you guys this is gonna sound very boastful and i don't those of you that listen to my show know that i'm not that guy
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Aber wenn deine Kinder eine Chance haben, zu sehen, was du tust, wie meine Kinder, wenn sie die Möglichkeit bekommen, wie sie meinen Telefon manchmal sehen, es leuchtet und mein Sohn kann lesen. Er ist 11 Jahre alt. Ja, sie sind klug, Mann. So klug. Und sie sehen Dinge, die ich tue, und sie schalten auf die TV an. Und es ist eine smarte TV. Und sie sehen mein YouTube.
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Oh mein Gott, da ist mein Vater. Ich habe gesagt, Leute, es ist nur ein Link zu meinem Gmail. Es ist nicht so cool. Aber ich sage ihnen das nicht, weil ich möchte, dass sie es sehen, wie cool es ist. Denn eines Tages sehe ich das als das Legacy der französischen Familie. Ich sehe die Determined Society. Ich sehe meine Kinder in dieser Firma, wenn ich es nicht mache.
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Und meine Kinder sind dynamisch. Ich denke, meine jüngste Tochter, Mia, wird der Host sein. in wahrscheinlich 20 Jahren. Und sie wird es töten. Sie ist unglaublich. Also, eines Tages, weil meine Kinder nicht hier sind. Ich bin in Norfolk, Virginia. Sie sind nicht mit mir hier. Sie werden es nicht sehen. Sie konnten nicht bei meinem TED Talk sein. Das war ziemlich cool. Sie können es aufschauen.
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Sie können es aufschauen. Sie werden es herausfinden. Sie wissen es noch nicht. Aber wenn mein Sohn 16 ist und er weiß, was ein TED-Talk ist, sagt er, mein Vater hat das gemacht? Absolut. Aber wir sitzen da einen Tag. Es war wie der Moment, den du hattest, als wir in Traverse, Michigan waren, und mein Telefon schlug auf und es war... GT. Ja, GT.
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Ich sitze da, ich habe eine Gespräche mit ihm. Mein Telefon leuchtet auf und es sagt Rob Gronkowski. Yeah, that's crazy. I saw you just shot, was that with his brother?
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He's an incredible individual, dude. Cool. I'm going to be doing a lot of stuff with the Gronks. That's a spoiler. That's awesome, man. A lot of stuff. Amazing. I credit my production team, my partners, who know Gordy very, very well. It was a natural connection. But one day, Mike calls me and he goes, what are you doing Sunday?
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Er sagte, ich weiß nicht, ich muss eine Stunde und eine halbe offen lassen. Ich habe einen Gast für dich. Es war Gordy. Es war dieser Moment, ich habe ihm das nicht gesagt, aber ich sage es jetzt. Zu Beginn des letzten Jahres, bevor wir dich kennengelernt haben, wollte ich mit Gordy verbinden, weil er ein Typ war, mit dem wir coole Dinge machen könnten.
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Und es gab all diese Pläne, über die ich und mein Partner Pat Sickens gesprochen haben. Und jetzt? Jede einer dieser Dinge beginnt zu passieren. Das ist großartig. Es ist wild für mich. Und mein Sohn schaut mich in diesem Moment an und sagt, wirklich? Ich sage, was? Er sagt, ich sehe das. Ich sage, oh. Er sagt, antworten. Ich sage, naja, Alter.
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Aber es ist lustig, weil das Art von Sachen, Mann, ist wie... Das ist die Kraft der Verbindung. Absolut. Und wenn du es so beobachtest, ich mache ein Event mit Rob im April in Pennsylvania. Aber wir werden noch andere Dinge dazwischen machen. Ja. Aber wenn die Kinder das sehen, gibt es ihnen den Glauben, dass sie alles tun können, was sie wollen. Absolut.
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Mein Sohn will Baseball in der LSU spielen, weil das war, wo mein Vater spielte. Ja. Honestly, I don't want him going there. I don't want him being in Baton Rouge. I want him going somewhere different, right? But I want him to achieve whatever he wants to achieve. So I keep my mouth shut. I was like, well, we got a lot of work to do, man. You're 11. Once you're 13, we'll hammer down.
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He was like, but everybody else is working so hard now. Dad, I go, and they'll burn out. They'll burn out. Trust me, I know how to do this. So like, your point, man, setting the example for your children is the most rewarding, to me, is the most rewarding part about this.
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Man, listen, the one thing that I really want to share with the audience is kind of, you know, just not kind of, but your story, right? Your brand is broker from the bottom. You've built this amazing brokerage, right? But there's a reason why you've been able to do it. And it's not what a lot of people think, right?
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Ich kann mich nicht erwarten, den Jungs zu schütteln.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
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You didn't grow up with a ton of money in your pocket to start throwing capital at shit, right?
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Es ist so lustig, Mann. Ich möchte kurz zurückkehren. Und ich stimme zu, Mann. Du hast... I don't want to not acknowledge what you've gone through in the last week or two. It's heavy. Most people, that would break. Most people, that would get to lay off the gas. But it just shows how connected you are to your purpose, right? And that's the thing.
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Even in my business, there's been so many times where I'm like, oh my God, how am I going to continue under this? Do I have to shut the show down? And of course, it's okay to think that. Aber was ist die Antwort? Und die Antwort ist meistens so, nein, Mann, wir werden weitergehen.
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So why don't you walk the audience, you know, through a short journey of who you are?
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Ich habe eine Idee. Es gibt einen Weg, richtig?
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Du bringst deine Truppen ein, du bringst deine Verbindungen ein. Wie fördern wir das? Hier ist die Mission. Ich denke, das ist eine globale Impactsituation. Absolut. Aber meine drei Kinder... Ich habe die ersten drei Kopien meines Buches gesandt, genau wie deine.
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Und wenn du gesagt hast, dass das mit mir resoniert hat, weil ich es nicht wollte, weiter in die Gespräche zu gehen, ohne auch zu sagen, Alter, das war das allererste, was jemals passiert ist. Meine Tochter war wie mein jüngster. Wann kam das raus? 21, 22, also vielleicht drei oder vier? Ja. Sie würde es lesen. Wenn sie sie nicht finden konnte, hätte sie gesagt, Mia.
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Das ist das coolste Gefühl im Welt. Es ist, Mann. Aber weißt du was? Es gab seitdem viele Kapitel. Ja, ohne Zweifel. Wir werden noch einen schreiben, oder? Ohne Zweifel. Wir haben einen Plan. Ich werde einen bald schreiben, wie die ganze Reise der Determinierten Gesellschaft. Ja.
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Ich glaube, das ist eine der Dinge, die ich liebe, wenn ich die Worte bezeichne, und sogar die Begeisterung ist deine Worte. Sie können die selbe Sache bedeuten. Es ist die Möglichkeit, sich zu bewegen, trotz dessen, was deine Emotionen dir erzählen. das die Reise von vielen Leuten beeinflusst, richtig?
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Und auch morgen, wenn ich, und danke dir, ich bin so dankbar, dass du hier hergekommen bist und deine Leute trainiert hast. Wir sollten eine Packung haben. Ich bin gespannt. Aber meine Gespräche morgen wird über die Intangibles reden. Ja. Nichts Flaschiges, aber jeder in dieser Raum ist nicht, die Dinge als Realtor zu erledigen. Absolut nicht. Sie sind nicht, richtig?
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Und was ich gelernt habe, Alter, was ich gelernt habe, ist, wenn wir die Ergebnisse schauen, sales show growth if it stalls or goes backwards it's not because we lack talent Es ist, weil wir den Prozess nicht machen können, weil wir uns so überrascht sind. Na ja, 1 plus 20, das wird mir diese Antwort geben. Also, wenn ich das und das mache, werde ich das bekommen.
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Das ist nicht so, wie es funktioniert. Alles dazwischen, richtig? Die Reise, der Prozess, der Verlust, die Rückfliege, die, weißt du, zwei Schritte vorwärts, drei Schritte zurück, was auch immer es ist. That's the person you're becoming. And those are the moments you have to embrace and start to operate out of joy. Right? And being excited and enthusiastic about what you're doing.
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Because now it becomes contagious. Now people hear the passion. Now if they thought you were, or me, if they thought we were jackasses before, like, kind of hard to go against this guy now. Gotta tune in. Gotta buy a house. Like, I gotta do it. And then all of a sudden you build this reputation where what you put out is feeding the souls of other people.
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What's that? Because I was recruited into a direct sales organization, Melaleuca, right? Where you buy products and they're toxin-free and if you sign people up, you get credit for it. It wasn't a multi-level, but it was a direct-to-consumer store. Groceries... Läden, all that kind of whatever it is. Right.
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But you have to have like a Facebook page where people are going to really, you know, come to you and you're going to build this personal brand. They're going to come to trust you. And then you start dripping things in like, oh, you take a picture and you get a product placement, which is not how I do things. Obviously, that's not how I do it. But it was the start, right? Right.
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And she had me do an exercise. She goes, what's your brand? I'm like, Ich weiß es nicht. Ich bin ein Vater. Ich bin ein älterer Athlet. Ich weiß nichts über Scheiß. Ich bin im Verkaufsbereich. Und ich versuche, ein gutes Beispiel für meine Familie zu setzen und für sie zu bieten. Ich bin ein Arbeiter. Und sie meinte, nein, das ist nicht das, worüber ich rede.
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Sie sagte mir, ich möchte, dass du dich in der Klinik, wo auch immer, in welcher Bilder du willst, in deinem Instagram-Store schickst. Und ich hatte etwa 800 Follower. In der Frage, genau. Was ist das erste Wort, das in deinem Kopf kommt, wenn du mich siehst?
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Ich habe es gemacht. Ich habe dem Publikum gesagt. Mein Freund hat gesagt, Du Schmuck. Weißt du, du schaffst es. Aber sie lachen. Ja, ja. Ich war so, komm, Leute, komm schon, Alter. Hilf mir hier. Und viele Leute kamen zurück wie Trainer, Leiter, Determinierung, Determinierung, Determiniert, Determiniert, Determiniert.
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Weil das war der Zeitpunkt, an dem ich mit meiner Fitness im Publikum angefangen habe und in besserer Form begonnen habe. Dann bin ich wieder fettig geworden. Jetzt bin ich wieder in besserer Form. Du weißt, das ist das Zyklus. Leben. Leben, ja. Ich sagte zu ihr, wow, alle denken, dass ich determiniert bin. Und sie sagt, hä? Sie sagt, es ist interessant. Sie sagt, was bedeutet das?
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The Michael Little Story - From Foster Care to Real Estate Mogul | The Determined Society
Ich sage, ich weiß es nicht. Du sagst es mir, du machst die Arbeit für mich. Hey, ich habe deine Aufgabe gemacht, sag mir, was es ist. Aber am Ende des Tages habe ich gesagt, Nicole, was ich wirklich will, mein Traum ist, in einer Gesellschaft aufzuwachen, wo jeder entscheidet, ihre Träume zu fangen, egal, was ihre Emotionen ihnen sagen. Und sie sagt, So you wanna wake up in a determined society?
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I said, yeah. She goes, that's it. Make a Facebook page called Determined Society. I go, oh, I don't like that. It's fire. I said, it's missing something. And she goes, no, it's not. Determined Society. I go, no, the Determined Society.
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Anything can happen, right? We'll get there, too. We'll talk about that. But, you know, I am... So she's like, start a Facebook group. But first go and tell the audience, hey, something big is coming. I'm going to drop a link when it drops. And I'm like, this is my first video that I've ever done. Flipped it around, completely cringe, hated every bit of it.
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It was after a while and I'm like flush and I've got bugs on my face and shit. And I'm like leaning up against the garage like an idiot with a blue Columbia fishing shirt on. I just remember all this, right? Because that was the start of it. And I started the Facebook page. Within 30 minutes of me posting the link, after I hyped it up for two weeks, I had 100 people in there. Crazy.
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And I started doing lives. I started doing little motivational slogans or stories. One day I'm driving down the road and I'm like, I started tasting colors, bro. I'm like, this is not a Facebook group. It is, but it's a podcast. It's a lot more. It's bigger than this. And then here we are.
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Ich liebe es, Alter.
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Und jetzt sind wir hier zusammen. Das ist das Powervollste. Das ist das Powervollste, weil es einen neuen Wachstum gibt. Du hast die Götter, E.T. ist der Götter. In meiner ehrlichen Meinung, für mich, wenn ich jemanden hören werde, am Ende, wird es Eric Thomas sein. Für mich.
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Ja, und wenn du zu diesen Plätzen gehst, weil jeder zu diesen Events geht, um sie zu treffen. I was there to meet him, right? But also, you know, there was other plans. Like, I met you and Tim. And it's almost like, that's how it works. If people would really realize that these events, yes, you go there, you get nurtured with information.
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If you can meet them and shake their hand and have lunch, then cool.
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But it's, yes, it is, man. And a lot of times when people don't understand, you're not going to become friends with that person. Like, the big one, right? I was blessed that I am I am friends with him. But, you know, I met you and Tim and now we're off doing our first Determine Your Destiny. There's gonna be more. Ich hoffe es. Wir werden es noch machen.
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100%.
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Ich brauche jetzt 15 mehr Minuten. Aber,
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That's it. It's crazy. Like, it's nuts, because, like, you know, coming here, like, you know, could I have Michael Byrd on my show virtually? Probably. Yeah, but in person is so much better. Absolutely. Right? I got to do, I got to have you on my show in person. Daniel and several other people. Like, I haven't had Daniel on my show personally. I mean, in person.
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I've had him virtually, but he called me the other day. This is funny as hell. And he says to me, he's like, dude, you are not even the same dude. I was like, I think that's a thank you. He goes, it's a compliment, brother. He goes, did you know we've known each other for almost four years? I was like, that's not true. We've known each other for like a year, a year and a half.
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And he goes, dude, I was on your show two years ago. Literally two years ago. Er sagt, komm schon, Bruder, Zeit fliegt. Ich bin so, verdammt. Aber es war nicht wie ein Knall, wie, hey, ich habe dich nur so lange kennengelernt. Es war wie, es hat sich nicht so gefühlt, richtig? Und er ist eine Person, mit der wir immer voll im Kreis kommen, ich und dieser Kerl.
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Und als ich sah, dass ihr euch verbunden habt, ich erinnere mich genau auf den Post, ich bin so, Are we serious right now? I'm like, wait a second. You guys are connected too?
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Jemand kann kinderlich sein und zusammenarbeiten, wenn alles gut geht. Und die Rosen riechen fantastisch. Aber wenn es wirklich so riecht wie Scheiße, dann musst du durchkommen und deinen besten Fuß zeigen. No doubt. Shoot, man. We've been going for an hour, man.
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Ich liebe es. Und hier sind wir. Na, Alter, danke, Mann. Danke, dass du da bist. Danke, dass du da bist. Erzähl dem Publikum deine Geschichte. Und, du weißt, es war großartig. Ich bin super gejagt. Morgen wird es großartig werden. Du weißt, wir haben ein paar Sales-Training. Wir haben noch ein paar mehr Shows zu machen. Charity-Workout. Charity-Workout, ja. Und dann lighten wir es an.
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Und dann die Konferenz am Sonntag. Am Sonntag. Die Butterflys kommen, Alter.
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I like butterflies.
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Listen, guys, you heard it. The one thing that I want you to get out of today from my friend Michael Little is, no matter what you've gone through in the past, no matter what you're going through right now, if you live your life out of tenacity and choose to move forward and work hard and set the example and break the cycle, it needs to stop with you.
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He chose to stop the cycle with everything that's going on with his family, him not having a family, incarcerations, drug use, overdoses. He decided to stop it with him. Now his children are benefiting from it and now he's built an empire and is going to continue to build that. So whatever you're going through, be tenacious and until then, stay determined.
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Bis zum nächsten Mal.
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That was the pivotal moment. It was the moment that man turned you into a man.
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Bis zum nächsten Mal.
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Was ist up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I am your host, Sean French. And before I introduce today's guest, I want to invite you to subscribe to the YouTube channel, Spotify and Apple. Leave a review. Send us some notes on Spotify for creators and let us know what you want to hear or what you loved about this show.
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By the time they hear it, they're like, Marriott, Marriott Oceanfront.
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Well, I have a, my buddy calls it, that's doing all my nutrition. He calls it my refeed meal. Tonight's the refeed meal.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
Hey, man, it's good to see you guys.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
You're in California, right? So you're in California for the fires. I would assume you're probably still in Florida in some parts and then the Carolinas, yes?
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
Bro, I'm getting back into it, man. Like, you know, I'm trying. You know, I see some vascularity coming out.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
What I think is real special too is, and I want the audience to really hear this. So if you live in Atlanta or anywhere close to Atlanta, get your butts to Fuel Fest on April 19th. If you have children 12 and under get in free, go party with a purpose and give back to, to reach out worldwide. Cause that's, that's the thing, right?
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
We all, the thing that I love about how the two play together is, you know, one we're honoring someone and we're giving a space for the car culture and people like out there that,
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
go fast somewhere to do it safely in part yes right and then also we're giving back to to those that are that are being challenged right now through you know the natural disasters and i can tell you what i live right here in hurricane alley you know it it shit gets pretty scary guys you know and and just to know that you know there is an organization tied to your brother's name out there helping i'm not surprised but but it makes me feel very very good about this
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
Yeah, that came right through us, man. I didn't stick around for that one. Well, you know, listen, man.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
Well, dude, I grew up in the Bay Area. I grew up in San Francisco Bay. Yeah. So I'm very familiar. I came out this way after I played college baseball at LSU. But I grew up in the San Francisco Bay. So I was there for the early 89ers. I was in elementary. I'm 46.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
Bro, coming from you, like, I'm going to hold on to that, and I'm going to take that to heart, bro.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
Same.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
The Bay Bridge collapsed. I was born in 089.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
And I was on a soccer field. Wow. And I just remembered doing this. I'm like, what's that?
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
Well, you have a shirt on. You have one of them old school Adidas tracksuits on. So I'm sure it's there, bro.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
I'm coming to market with mine. So no guys, listen, it's super excited to meet you guys. You know, obviously super excited to talk about fuel fast and what it means, you know, at a deeper rooted level and what it's providing the car culture and just even giving back to your lives as well.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
I will be at Florida there for sure. I have an event I'm speaking at that week in Pennsylvania.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
I see what he's doing.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
Damn it. Damn it. Damn it, Tyrese. I'm going to work it out. I'll keep Val posted so she can get with you. But I would love to meet you guys, and we'll go from there. I'm going to work it out.
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And carrying on Cody, your brother, Paul's legacy is something that he would be proud of that people can go and, and really dive into the culture and go fast safely and really have somewhere to go to celebrate the 20 years of fast, really. I mean, think about that. I mean, it's been two decades, you know, and there's people that have grown up on that fast and furious, you know, legacy.
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Say less, bro. Say less. I'll figure it out.
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That's it. And yours truly will be there. I accept your invite. I love you both. Check your DMs because we'll set up a meet and greet and all that good stuff. So, gentlemen. Look at Tyrese vibing. I just love it, man. I love it. Listen, thank you guys for coming on. I appreciate you. Thank you, Sean. Get there. Get there. I know a lot of people in Atlanta. You're going to have to come with me.
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Share this episode with someone you know, love, and trust that would really enjoy Fuel Fest, guys. That's what I'm asking the audience to do. Get this out to everybody you know. Thank you guys so much. Until next time, stay determined.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
So this is more than just fast.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
Yeah, the weather in Atlanta is bipolar. We don't want to do that, man. We never know what it's going to be about. But you guys just wrapped up West Palm Beach, right?
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It was after the earthquake in Haiti, right? That's right.
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if I could really quickly Cody please real quick I just want to edify you for that Tyrese thank you for sharing that it's You know, obviously, you know, not knowing Paul personally, but, you know, it was as real as it could be for someone like me who was just a big fan and just knew what kind of person he was.
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So to hear you share something personal like that, I don't want to continue the interview without saying thank you for that.
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For sure, man. Yeah. And so, Cody, you know, from your perspective, you know, being blood brother. Right. And and being able to continue his legacy and doing fuel fast and and taking proceeds and putting in to reach out worldwide. What does that mean to you in doing all of this?
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Determined Society. I am your host, Sean French. I have an amazing treat for you today, as always. But first, hit the follow button on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple, and get ready for this fast and furious episode. We're going to be highlighting Fuel Fest with amazing guests Tyrese Gibson and Cody Walker. What's up, boys? Yo, what up, Sean?
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Ich denke, es ist alles, richtig? Weil, ich meine, ich habe mich eigentlich sehr recently angepasst, wie, hey, bist du gut? Wie, du weißt, ich möchte nur darauf achten, weil alles sieht gut aus, aber bist du okay? Und hier ist das Ding, es ist so, ich werde nicht jeden Schwung rausnehmen, aber ich spreche darüber auf meiner Plattform, wie, hey, hör mal.
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you know, this is where I'm at right now, I'm struggling in this, I don't want people who pay attention consistently to think that my life is perfect, because it is not. You know, husband, father of three young children, an 11-year-old, an 8-year-old and a 5-year-old, we're running around, you know, from extracurricular to extracurricular, you know, sometimes I feel like
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Every meal I make, my five-year-old's pissed off at, unless it's pizza or burgers. It's just like, hey, listen, we're in the shit, right? It happens, but I just... For me, I'm not gonna, because I also think that posting a video of you crying is also inauthentic, right? Because that should be a private moment in my humble opinion. It's like, you're doing this for clicks, man.
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Lass mich wissen. Lass mich wissen, was morgen passieren wird, damit ich ein bisschen eine Idee habe. Aber, wie ich in der Intro erwähnt habe, es wird heute eine andere Show sein, oder? Aber ich denke, es ist nötig, weil für mich war Jackson einer der großen Influencer. Ich habe ihn nicht als das gesehen, als ich ihn kennengelernt habe.
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That's the only reason why you're on camera crying right now. Like, doing a reel, right? Like, now if it's something like, you know, a passing of a child or a parent, like, I get that. Like, I don't mean that. I don't mean that. I mean, like, I'm having a bad day. Like, dude, buck up, Buttercup. We're all having bad days. You know, but still handle your business.
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And it's true. I watched him do it. You watched him do it. But he poured that shit into everyone that he cared about. I also believe Jackson was also very choosy on who he let in. He wanted to help the world, but I think he was very choosy on who he let into his circle as well, because he wanted to make sure that he kept that shit airtight.
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Es ist verrückt für mich, weil ich, als diese News rausgekommen ist, am Morgen wuchs. Okay. Ich bin dann nach dem Gym gegangen und habe die Social App geöffnet, Instagram geöffnet und dann habe ich das Posten gesehen. Ich war so, was für eine satiresickere und zwischende Seite ist das? Und ich war so, das ist Jackson's Seite. Maybe he's talking about the old him.
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Maybe he's saying, hey, it's going to be a new year, here I come. I looked at the comments and I just dropped my phone. I was like, this can't be real. You're the first person I contacted. And you were in bed with your grandkids. I'm like, Sharon, please tell me this isn't real. Is this a freaking joke? Because I'm shattered right now. Please tell me this is a sick joke.
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Wie hast du das herausgefunden?
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Aber er kam her und ich dachte, dieser große Kerl mit all dieser Influenz gibt ein Scheiß über mich und sagt, er ist ein Fan und liebt mein Content. Ich dachte, ist dieser Kerl ernsthaft? You know, it was just so humbling and he was just so kind and, you know, seriously a tragedy. But I don't want this to be a sad show because he wouldn't want that, right? He would not want that.
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It was wild. Certainly wild, right? Like, I don't even think, I don't think I believed it. Like, truly, like, okay, accepted it. Until I was watching the stream of his service.
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No, absolutely. And we never know the full picture, right? We'll see him again one day. No offense, buddy. Hopefully not too soon, but can't wait to see you. But, you know, it's wild because there's so many people in our circle, even just on that thread, on that post. Oh my God, I just talked to him. Oh my God, I just talked to him. And for me, I had talked to him the weekend prior.
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I had talked to him. Er hat mir ein DM gesendet und gesagt, hey, ich bin bereit, das Show zu machen. Ich bin so, hey, Alter, absolut. Willst du in die USA kommen? Er sagt, absolut. Etwas wie, ja, oder was auch immer es war. Ich weiß nicht, verboten. Aber, du weißt, ich bin super überrascht. Ich bin so, Alter, das könnte in 2025 passieren.
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Ich könnte meinen Jungen in Person sehen, hier neben mir in diesem Studio hier. Und dann, vier oder fünf Tage später, ist es nicht möglich.
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He wants us to celebrate him the way he was, which is just an exceptional human being. But what did Jackson mean to you?
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Es gibt Leute, die herumfliegen, Leute, die für die Geräte reisen. Und dann nach ein paar Wochen... Die Familie ist selbst da und sie behandelt das. Alle anderen gehen mit ihren eigenen Leben. Nicht, dass sie vergessen, was Jackson oder die Familie braucht, aber die Menschen leben auf. Und es ist schwer, die Balance zu machen. Wie oft bleibe ich in Kontakt?
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Weil du nicht willst, dass du enttäuscht wirst. Und vielleicht... Ich meine, manchmal denke ich, hey, vielleicht will ich sie nicht, vielleicht triggere ich Erinnerungen. Und es bringt sie in eine schreckliche Situation. Zum Beispiel, einer meiner Baseballspieler, ich meine, Juli 7 werden zwei Jahre sein, dass er plötzlich weggegangen ist. Und es brach uns. Es bricht mich immer noch.
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Er war einer der nahesten Baseballspieler, die ich je hatte. Er war einfach mein Typ. Ich bin sehr nah mit seinem Vater, mit seiner Mutter. Ich habe mit dem Vater Mittagessen gemacht, genau nach dem Service und so weiter. Wir bleiben immer in Kontakt, aber manchmal gehe ich ein paar Monate lang und denke mir, oh mein Gott, ich bin so ein Arschloch. Ich muss J.J.
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schicken und ihn aufmerksam machen und Tracy aufmerksam machen. Und You know, I told them I want to do a tribute on him one day. I want to do a big show around Evan Ames. Because he was such a special human being. And if you were one of his people, you were one of his people. He's a lot like Jackson. They both could smell bullshit a mile away. And if they did, they're out.
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But if they knew you were real and about it, they were with you. You know?
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Ich meine, ich denke, es ist eine tolle Lektion für all die von Ihnen, die das in Ihrem Leben erlebt haben. Für jemanden, den Sie lieben, ob es ein Familienmitglied oder ein Freund ist. Die Familie dieses Individuums will immer noch von Ihnen hören.
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Also macht es einen Punkt, um mit ihnen mitzutun, weil das die Erinnerung lebt, dass ihr Verliebter so einen unglaublichen Einfluss auf die Welt und spezifisch auf Ihre Leben hat. Das ist eine tolle Lektion. Das ist eine tolle Lektion.
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Absolut. Lass mich dich fragen, was ist deine Lieblings- oder lustigste Erinnerung an Jackson Tippett?
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Yes, he would send the voice notes. He sure would. So my, I guess my funniest memory of Jackson is, and I alluded to it at the beginning of the show, at the time it was frustrating. Because, but, but... He's listening, he's watching down, he's laughing right now. So we finally scheduled a time to be on the show, right? And it had me getting up like at 4 a.m. to record.
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Like 4 a.m., dude, I'm sitting there like, hope my kids don't wake up, hope my wife doesn't wake up. This could be bad, right? This could be really bad for me underneath my roof right now. I'm recording a show at this specific time. Und ich dachte mir, weißt du was, um Jackson Tippett anzunehmen, fuck it, lass uns das machen. Ich bin alle drin, richtig?
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Und ich sitze da, habe Riverside weit offen, bereit, Rock'n'Roll zu machen, bereit, Jackson Tippett in der Lobby zu sehen. Nichts, nichts, nichts. Zehn Minuten später, nichts. Und ich sitze hier, ich bin so, okay, vielleicht wird es ein bisschen aufstehen. Ich schaue meinen Schuh an, ich bin so, Alter, der Show sollte 20 Minuten vorher beginnen. Right. I'm sitting there like an asshole.
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And I'm like, yeah, man, whatever, dude. I'm just thinking like the worst. Right. Like it doesn't respect my time. Yada, yada, yada. Right. All these different things. Because he was so intent on being on. He just no showed me. He no showed me. I'm like, I can't believe this. Can't believe this guy. Like even on me for weeks about this man. And. I was so mad, you know?
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And obviously it's a lot of my own bullshit, right? Like, you know, coming up, that it wasn't about him, it was how I felt about myself at the time. And he just, you know, signified somebody else who was just not valuing me. Because I didn't feel my value at the time, right? So not once did I think, Well, maybe something's wrong. So, sitting there, and I finally just, like, I log off.
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I'm like, and by the way, there's moments in this 20, 30 minutes, and I was messaging him, hey, bro, what's up, man? Hey, like, are you coming? Like, what's the deal? Like, I'm sitting here, you know, and finally I get off, and I'm like, hey, man, I hope everything's okay, but I'm done. I can't sit here anymore. He finally messages me back. Mate, I'm so sorry. I was in a car accident.
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Remember when you got in that car accident like a year or two ago or however long it was? That was the day. That was the day he was supposed to come on my show and I felt like the biggest jackass. Because here I am thinking the worst about who I am or the fact that he just no-showed me. He was like, dude, this guy's going through life. He had a car accident.
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So that was one of my funniest memories because that's when I learned a lot about Jackson. You know, that's when I learned like, hey, dude, be more curious. And yeah, then we could never get it worked out for him to come on.
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Ja, ich meine, das ist das verrückte Ding, richtig? Er hatte einen Weg, Leute zu verbinden, richtig? Wir sind hier, weil er da ist. Ich und du sind Freunde, weil er auf deinem Show kam und du und ich irgendwie über einen deiner Podcast-Clips verbunden sind.
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Yeah, man, that's so true. Because, you know, afterwards, like I said, I felt like a complete tool. I was like, dude, this isn't... Like, I can't believe you thought this. But I mean, you know, that was... Das war ein lustiger Moment, wenn ich mich daran erinnere. Und als ich durch die Nachrichten durchgearbeitet habe, habe ich angefangen, darüber zu lachen.
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Ich habe angefangen, mit ihm zu sprechen. Ich habe gesagt, remember, when you stood me up, bro? I was like, you got in a car accident? I was like, all right, man, all right. But it just, yeah.
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Ich weiß, wirklich, du hättest nicht in einen Auto-Ansatz kommen müssen, Bruder. Du hättest einfach gesagt, hey, ich fühle mich nicht. Oh Mann. Das ist ein Regret von mir, doch, richtig? Weil ich einfach, ich wünsche, das Ding, das ich in unserer Freundschaft regrette, ist, dass ich nicht mehr so hart versucht habe, ihn wieder anzunehmen.
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Du weißt, aber es war nicht, es war nicht etwas Intentionales. Es war einfach,
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started going in a different direction right as far as in person and things like that and i wanted to keep the integrity of the show but for you know certain exceptions i'll do a virtual show now you know obviously because here we are i mean you're in australia thankfully you're in the future you're in the future you should be kind to yourself about that because yeah um you know like the whole thing is that
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And again, it's an honor, right? I'm not, listen, I'm no one to dismiss the grand plans of the big guy upstairs, right? It's just, at the time you don't know that, then you look back and we're here and we're doing this for him. And it's just... I do my best not to beat myself up over that. I do.
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Because you said something there, you know, and I want the audience to really, I want to go back to it, because I want the audience to really take it in. You said, you know, the relationship being private. And that's a real friendship. Right. And where people get screwed up like me and you have a real friendship, like a real private friendship, like a real one.
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He was a vessel for that. Didn't you tell me that you and his mom kind of grew up together or you had a previous connection with her and he helped you guys reconnect?
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Like, like, and I'm stressing this and I stress this a lot to when I'm interviewing someone and, you know, to the audience, like, like. A lot of these people that I've never met in person, I trust them more than the people in my life.
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Nein, ich denke, und es ist großartig, gleich wie bei dir, all diese Dinge, die Authentizität, das Genuene. Ich denke, Freundschaft, Entschuldigung, Freundschaft ist nicht der Kaffee-Appointment oder der Kaffee-Date, es ist nicht der Abendessen-Date, es ist nicht das Gehen aus den Klubs, es ist eine Energie. Es ist eine Energie-Date, in meiner Meinung.
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Ich liebe es. Ich liebe es. So wahr. Ähm, als wir das Flugzeug hier landen, mein Lieber, damit du deinen Tag anfangen kannst, kann ich meinen Tag beenden, mir ein bisschen Abendessen geben, die Familie sehen, Bathtime machen, all das lustige Sachen. Ähm, ich werde dich fragen, was war dein Lieblings Quote von Jackson?
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Das ist ein Mic Drop. Right there. That's amazing. It's an amazing lesson. And that's what he was about. And I think that's what everybody should really work on. Because if you stay in your lane and you just focus on you and be your biggest cheerleader, you're going to accomplish much more than looking at what you don't have that somebody else does have. Oh ja, wir...
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Is that an Aussie thing?
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I don't even know what it means.
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I didn't do it. Sometimes I look at mine and I go, dude, what a fucking wanker, man.
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That's the ripple effect, right? It is. It absolutely is. Dann machen sie es jemand anderem. Und diese Person macht es jemand anderem. Weil es ihnen gemacht wurde. Und das ist der Weg, die Energie rauszuholen. Aber wenn du es nicht tust, dann kannst du diesen Ripple-Effekt minimieren. Jetzt hör mal, bevor wir es auslösen... Please tell the audience where they can find you.
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We didn't really highlight anything you do. We'll save that for when you come to Florida, because I know you're going to come. I'm putting that out there in the universe. You're going to come here. We're going to talk about your amazing life and your amazing company and what you do for people's health and wellness. I still want to try it, by the way.
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I know. It just probably will take seven years to get it here. That's all. Because it's so far away. But no. But tell people where they can find you, please.
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Absolutely, I'm all about that. I'm all about that. I'm with you as long as they don't cross the boundary and as long as they're not asking me for money or trying to sell me something I don't need or insulting what I'm currently doing, I always respond. I think that is definitely... I think you have to protect your space too, right? You have to protect your space. Yeah, but...
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Wenn jemand dir schreibt, hey, ich liebe, was du tust, schreibe sie zurück. Sei kein A-Hole. Mach es nicht. Sie sind eine Person. Du bist auch eine Person. Nur weil die Computer-Screen und der Follower-Account zeigen, dass du technisch wichtig bist, bedeutet das nichts.
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Yeah, exactly. Don't ask Sharon if she has OnlyFans. If she did, it would be in her link in her bio. All right. Let's be fair. Come on, guys. Come on. What part of putting Christmas decorations up with her grandkids would make you think she has an OnlyFans?
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There's no thirst traps here. Oh, good lord. But thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you for coming on. And I had a great time. Can't wait to do it in person. And for the audience watching and listening, I hope you had an amazing time Mit unserem Tribut zu Jackson Tippett. Ich weiß, es war ein bisschen anders als ein Show. Und, du weißt, seine Seite ist noch aktiv.
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Sein Link wird sein, sein Instagram-Link wird in den Show-Notes sein, aber es ist I am Jackson Tippett. Sie veröffentlichen immer noch tolle Inhalte für seine Seite, seine direkten Quotes und Dinge, die er gemacht hat. So you could still go and get to know him, even though he's not physically with us. So guys, again, thank you for listening.
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It's unbelievable. Just like, you know, the human connection, you know, you can just meet somebody like you met Jackson and then all of a sudden you're reconnected to your past and everything comes full circle. It just kind of is like, okay, dude, I see what you're doing up there. You know, you're bringing people back into your lives and you, you know, you obviously mean a lot to that family.
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If you don't already follow the show, please hit subscribe, share the show with someone you love. Until next time, stay determined.
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I mean, you were one of, you spoke at his services and it was a beautiful speech, by the way. Beautiful, beautiful speech.
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And I was honored. I'm watching the service, I'm streaming it, and I'm sitting there just like, man, I wish I could really be there. And you get up there, and one of the first things you say is my name. Like... It was mind-blowing to me that I was even considered in honoring him there when I wasn't even presently there, so thank you for that.
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It meant a lot, you know, from the standpoint of like, you know, it's just, I want him to know I'm thinking about him, and I know he does. You know, I...
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Oh, my God.
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Excuse me, guys, while I collect myself here. You know, I knew that he cared. I knew that he liked me. I knew he liked my show. But I had no idea. Ich meine, er kommt und, du weißt, meine Botschaften und nur periodisch, hey Mann, du weißt, ich bin immer noch glücklich, dein Podcast zu machen. Willst du es machen?
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Remembering Jaxon Tippet: A Tributary Conversation with Sharon Orval on The Determined Society
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Remembering Jaxon Tippet: A Tributary Conversation with Sharon Orval on The Determined Society
What's up, everybody? We're back for another episode. Today is going to be a rather big treat. I have my good friend Sharon Orville here with us from Australia. She's a CEO of an amazing company that helps people with their health and wellness. But today's episode is going to be a little different, guys. We had a mutual friend pass away last month.
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Remembering Jaxon Tippet: A Tributary Conversation with Sharon Orval on The Determined Society
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The Determined Society with Shawn French
Remembering Jaxon Tippet: A Tributary Conversation with Sharon Orval on The Determined Society
Yeah, as I get older and I come across people like you and Jackson, you start to see there is a subset of people that are focused on the right things. Und ich weiß das für den Fakt, dass Social Media verdammt verpackt ist mit einer Menge Bullshit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Remembering Jaxon Tippet: A Tributary Conversation with Sharon Orval on The Determined Society
Und du musst es durchlaufen, um es den Leuten zu bekommen, die Jackson Tippett sind, die das Leben verstehen, die einige dunkle Zeiten durchgegangen haben, weil Jackson, du weißt, er hat durchgegangen, er hat durchgegangen. Und er kam raus und sagte, das ist das, was jetzt wichtig ist. Meine Familie, dass sie kind ist.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Remembering Jaxon Tippet: A Tributary Conversation with Sharon Orval on The Determined Society
Und eines der Dinge, die ich immer erinnere, was er gesagt hat, und ich liebe es, dass sein Geschäftspartner oder wer auch immer noch seine Seite alive hält. Ich meine, weil wir immer noch diese Botschaften von Jackson bekommen, jeden Tag, richtig? Es braucht nichts, um kind zu sein. Es braucht nichts, um kind zu sein und zu lachen. Und das war es.
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Remembering Jaxon Tippet: A Tributary Conversation with Sharon Orval on The Determined Society
Jackson Tippett, Fitnessinfluencer und viele Leute, die Sharon und ich kennen, wissen, wie viel Jackson nicht nur die Leute in seinen Leben bedeutet, sondern sie und ich speziell. Sharon, willkommen zum Show.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Remembering Jaxon Tippet: A Tributary Conversation with Sharon Orval on The Determined Society
Me too, because all too often we see people that are putting out messages like, you're enough, you're loved the way you are, and stop comparing yourself. And we hear that a lot. But the most effective teachers are the ones that struggle with it themselves. Ja. Und was er nie wusste, weil wir keinen Podcast hatten. Ich werde dir sagen, was passiert ist. Es war lustig.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Remembering Jaxon Tippet: A Tributary Conversation with Sharon Orval on The Determined Society
Es war frustrierend, als ich rausgekommen bin. Aber wenn ich zurückblicke, ist es lustig. Aber, weißt du, als Jackson für mich herkommt, war ich am Anfang der Phasen. von dem, was ich jetzt mache, richtig?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Remembering Jaxon Tippet: A Tributary Conversation with Sharon Orval on The Determined Society
Also, du weißt, stell dir vor, du weißt, ich bin in der Däne in meinem Haus, du weißt, es sieht nicht aus wie etwas, ich denke, es sieht gut aus, aber wenn ich zurückgehe, bin ich so, ich kann nicht glauben, dass Leute mir bereits Aufmerksamkeit gegeben haben, richtig, weil es einfach nicht aussieht. It wasn't very aesthetically pleasing, but he accepted me for me at that time. And I needed that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Remembering Jaxon Tippet: A Tributary Conversation with Sharon Orval on The Determined Society
I needed that external validation from somebody I respected and cared about. Because I didn't know what was going on with my own platform. And he was there. He was there to shine that light. And it just meant the world to me, man. It really did.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Remembering Jaxon Tippet: A Tributary Conversation with Sharon Orval on The Determined Society
Oh Mann, es ist ein langer Zeitraum, aber ich bin so froh, dass du hier bist. Du bist so weit über in Australien, richtig? Und du bist in der Zukunft. Es ist wie, ich suche für deine Zeitmaschine.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
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The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Conditioning. It's conditioning. That's what it is. From the environment. Right. From the environment. What all you guys at that point in your life are looking for leadership. So yes, it's, yeah, okay, I was a follower, cool. But everyone's a follower at some point, right? We all follow our parents. And if that's not available, you go try to find other inspiration to follow, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
So it's just a classic example of wanting leadership. And I'm just listening to this and I'm like, damn, how selfish can I be? And this is what I mean by that. When I'm 11- I'm not worried about things like that. I'm worried about my parents dropping me off at the Little League field in time so I can play pickle with my teammates and eat Grand Slam burger with cheese and throw the pickles around.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
That's my son. That's my son today. That's their life now, right? That's their life now. Where there's somebody on the other side of the United States of America at 11 years old.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
doing these things and and it's like i just wonder i'm like man like we need to be able to get outside of ourselves and understand the there's a world there's life going on around us and that people are in other positions and how can we help because it's perspective and reality right you know that's as we look out on someone else's world it's our perspective yeah
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Right. Right. How did your experience growing up as an 11 year old in that environment and in the streets and, you know, potential, you know, gang fights with a neighboring town? How has that helped you? become the dad that you are now and the husband that you are now. Cause I'd have to say that's deep, man. But that, that right there, like think about that. Those three beautiful kids I just met,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
You know, I think it's important. Right? It is. It's important so that they really truly understand where you came from and also to appreciate what they have in you and in their life now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode. I am your host, Sean French. Before I introduce today's amazing guest, please go to YouTube, hit subscribe, Spotify the same, and Apple. Follow us on social media at The Determined Society and at TheSeanFrench. Today I have an amazing guest. He's a Super Bowl champion. He's a first-round draft pick, number one. 29 to be exact.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Do you ever – because I kind of grew – I didn't grow up in the same type of environment, right? But I have a mom. My mom and my biological father split when I was two, right? So I grew up first nine years of my life without a father figure and then finally got one, right? But I also – like for me, if I – When I feel like I disappoint my children, that's the hardest part for me of my day.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
So like I can get dad guilt, man. Have you ever dealt with anything like that?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
It's funny because I've always been real on the show. I'm always authentic and talk about my life as much as I possibly can without exposing too much. That moment happened for me this morning. You talk about husband guilt. I did my part in something. She did her part in something. But it was this complete, massive miscommunication. At the time, I'm like, I ain't coming off as I'm right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
I'm righteous. How dare you? But as I'm driving down here in the... and the tempers start to kind of come down a little bit, Sean, what could you have done better in that? What could you have done better in that situation? I think ultimately that is the important thing about life and relationships. And just as, you know, now being an entrepreneur, as you know, it was like,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
How can I get better in that moment? Because we're never going to be 100% on. We're never going to be perfect. And I'll take the Sean today over the Sean I was eight years ago. No problem. But I still feel it, man. It's like, man, I really could have done better.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
29th pick overall for the Indianapolis Colts. Picked Tom Brady off for interception in the championship game to take the Colts to the Super Bowl and ended up winning it. He is from Sharon, Pennsylvania. He's doing amazing things as an entrepreneur now for the community and the education system in America. Marlon Jackson, welcome to the show. John, thank you for having me.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
I think also, too, to that point is I was joking about something and it escalated, but I wasn't reading the room. Right. So I think that we have to all do a really good job of reading the room. Like, where's this person at? What are they going through right now? If I say this, no matter what my intentions are, how's it going to, how's it going to pop off? Yep. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And I just think that in that moment, I didn't do a good job of it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
It's a great point, man. It's a great point because I, it's so funny because I can feel at it so many times, but I pride myself in the fact that my emotional intelligence level, my EQ is so high and my intelligence level, I don't know where it's at. But I also feel in the world now, in the world we live in now, emotional intelligence far surpasses IQ. Yep.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Well, you have to know how to communicate a thought, right? You can feel a certain way and have a certain emotion. It's how we bring it across, whether it's to our family, to our employees, to the rest of our leadership team is like, hey, you know, this is where we're at. And how can you craft the conversation so that everybody feels open to be able to speak and not feel attacked?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Yeah. Yeah. I think it's too, it's like, it's the competitive spirit, right? Everybody wants to win. Like everybody wants to do a great job and, and communicating that and being on the same wavelength is super important. Right. And it's, it's important in entrepreneurship.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
I appreciate the opportunity. Dude, likewise, man. It's great sitting here with you, and we are having some amazing off-the-air conversations just about family, kids, school, just everything. Life. Life. Life. But it's happening, huh?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And then even as, you know, your career in the NFL, like you, I mean, you want to talk about a mixed bag, a team, talk about that locker room, man. Like a lot of different individuals, you know, very decorated career, obviously went to the Superbowl, won one. Talk about that a little bit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
See, there's a big difference between reaction and response, right? And like when you said we have to choose how we respond. Now, there's a lot of times where I react to things and then I go back. I'm like, oh, my God, I completely screwed that one up. But, you know, that's a big thing, right? It's like we're all going through stuff. We're all going through life.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
I think it's important for the audience to really dig into that, whether you're an entrepreneur, a parent, or even if you're a coach in a team. I think it's so easy to lead with the heavy hand and to get after somebody and tell them the way it is. But when we really peel back the onion, people want respect and people want to be heard and they want collaboration.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And Tony Dungy was ahead of the time. Like, cause no, still no one's really doing it. Who's doing it? Not like him. Not like him. Not like him. Like dude, even Sama didn't. Hell no. Saban's a whole other beast right there. But you can honestly say, college football-wise, GOAT. GOAT. Different approaches. Different approaches, right? Very systematic. One hair out of place.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
That janitor better care as much as the starting quarterback. Everybody had to be on the same page. So he created systems, and that's where they stayed. But with Tony Dungy, that's a great point. That makes it, I feel... Easier to play for, easier to work for because you're not on that, you know, year two, you're going into the championship game that you end up winning and winning the Super Bowl.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
It's much more comfortable to do your job when you know the man is actually for you instead of, yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
We're all struggling with kids doing their classwork, forgetting shit. And, you know, we're, you know, hoping it doesn't cause the next fight with the missiles.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
True student, right? It's so funny because I watch this and I know it's kind of a funny parallel, but did you ever watch All-American on Netflix? Oh, yeah. So Spencer James, the very first episode, they talk about feet. He's looking at feet. I didn't know that was a thing. So if his foot was going to do a certain thing when he lined up, he knew where the play was going.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
It's amazing. So that specific play, when you picked off Tom Brady— to win that AFC championship, to go to the Super Bowl, given everything in your childhood that you went through and your moments at Michigan, that moment right there, explain what that meant.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Just think of that word, man. A signature moment. Yeah, that moment, man. As I was sitting at my friend Joel Earhart's Couch, I remember it. We wanted the Colts to win so badly. And then you pick that pass up, I'm like, it's over now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
I think it's important for, you know, athletes or parents of athletes or anybody listening really truly. It's not about the technical skills. I mean, those are important. You have to be able to act. But the mind, like if you are not giving everything you have in the film room or whatever that proverbial film room is for you, then what are you even doing?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
dude it's that's tough right it's tough because no because things happen like you mentioned that happens that's right it's just core of your mind and you have to find that way to switch into that executive position to make those decisions to get your business to run exactly exactly and it is it is challenging uh but at the same time we have to realize that it is possible but it starts with awareness a lot of us aren't even aware because in our education system it's not a part of
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
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The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
It's so hard for me to coach Little League and watch baseball because there could be two outs and we have a new batter up, bases are empty, and the first two pitches to that hitter with two outs, our balls, I already know what's going to happen three plays from now. Like, it's hard because I know he's going to walk them. Then I know there's going to be a pass ball or a stolen base.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And then I know there's going to be a base hit, and then we just gave up a run with two outs. So that part of it is because of studying over and over again the trends within baseball. You know if there's a two-out walk, you're screwed. It's just like they always say every inning, leading lady every inning, get the first guy out. If you don't get that first guy out...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
then the percentages of you getting out of that inning without giving up a run are very slim, right? And so to your point, like, guys, we got to be studying these things. We have to know. So, okay, so that happens. And then you go to that big moment in the Super Bowl.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Leaders have foresight to see things before it happens, right? Yes. And, again, what everybody needs to do in big moments is quiet the noise as much as they possibly can. That's right. You know, as much as we love our families and everything like that, like, it can get noisy, especially in that moment, right? Yeah. Like, you need to be able to lock in. That's right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Because that dog in you to win a Super Bowl, like, you need that there.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
You have to be dialed in. It's that laser focus where you have to be unshakable.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Dude, you're taught, you're preaching the choir right now, man. You truly are. It's funny. Like you, you, I don't watch many horse races, but when you do, they have blinders on. Why do they have blinders on? So they can only see what's in front of them.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And that's what we need to do in sports. So we need to do an entrepreneurship sometimes, but there is a disconnect. Like you need to be able to be open and kind of open up your peripherals for family and things of that nature. Exactly. Exactly. So, okay. So, you know, I want to paint a picture here, the upbringing and sharing, right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Everything you went through in your childhood, you know, carrying the firearms in your backpack, you're here in the clinic, you got the police there, um,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
to Michigan in that fight, getting to play for an amazing program like the Wolverines, and then going to the Colts and being able to be led by Tony Dungy, Peyton Manning, picking Tom Brady off, and all of a sudden that blue and white confetti flies. All these moments in your life were there for a purpose. It wasn't about winning a Super Bowl. It wasn't about any of that long term.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
God had a purpose for you to impact the world by way of education and giving back to the youth. Can you help me in telling the story of your foundation to the audience that the Marlon Jackson that was formed and created throughout his whole life is now giving back and helping education?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Oh, the ideas that we have to make the education much stronger. We don't teach children how to think. We teach them how to take tests. you know, and to judge their worth based on what level they're at, how they scored on the state test, et cetera. So before we get into all that, though, why don't you give the audience a peek behind Marlon Jackson as a youth?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Yeah, see, what I'm loving about this SAS program, right, is the fact that it's not just support for the students. It's the support for the teachers. It's support for administration and all the support within the school to where there's indicators and data to point to this is where this child's struggling. This is where that child's struggling.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
So it's a collaboration effect of how do we get these kids through? Because one of the hardest things as a teacher that teachers deal with, and I know so because I did used to teach is is not understanding what that child is going through. And how can I craft this conversation of like, I think this kid's high. Or this kid is falling asleep in my class.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
It's genius because that is the, I mean, just even at the time when I was a teacher and a coach, I tended to lead my classroom like the baseball coach, right? Like, hey, wake up, get out of my class. I don't know what's going on with that person. I don't know what's going on with her or him. right? This is great. So how many, how many school districts, how many schools are you guys in?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
What does that look like?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
So that's their bell work.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
But I think it's also super right. And it's so great because that can, like you said, build a relationship with the student, the teacher. Right now, the teacher can see real time what's bothering this student and they can handle it kind of.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
one-on-one it's not call out it's not anything other than hey how can i help you with this the one thing that do schools ever push back on like well what if the child's not being honest right what if yeah so how do you guys work through that because let's say they're probably like i don't want to say that i didn't eat because they might want to protect the parents right or you know my mom's in jail or my dad got arrested last night how do you guys work through those types of situations even the false reports
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Everything's great. but their actions are showing differently. Does that also flag in the system to like, maybe there needs to be a conversation between the student, the teacher, or potentially the counselor?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Okay.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
I love it, man. I love it. It's important. So you're in 11 schools and you're looking to go to 20. Is that what you said? Yes, this school year, 20. All in the Indianapolis area? Are you looking to expand nationwide?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
I just think it's an interesting thing because again, like I can't stress it enough. Excuse me. My wife teaches at a prep school, right? And you would think that nothing's going on, right? Because it costs $30,000 a year to go to that school. Like, dude, stuff happens, man. And I'm like looking at just even in Florida, in Lee County, this software would fix a lot of shit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Different problems like anxiety, right? It's the same stuff. So a lot of times you'll see kids at privileged schools like this, like, what if I don't get in Princeton? Oh my God. But the feeling's still the same.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Yeah, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Thankless job, by the way, like in in in some communities and some some societies like teachers are they're just bashed. Right. And some and some are looked at like you listen to your teacher. It is a hard line for a teacher to walk. Right. I mean, it's tough. Like you said, undervalued. It's a thankless job. It is. You know, and I would also say being a student is a thankless job. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And a lot of times just being a kid in society is very, very difficult. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
The big underlying current here, right, to me, and I could be completely wrong, right, but when I listen to all this, and when we talked about, you mentioned society is divided right now, there's a massive division going on. This type of service and this type of collaboration can teach kids to see like in each other and understand that they can work together.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And if we can fix it at that root, then when they grow up, we're not as divided as society. To me, I see it as a... Yes, there's the overarching purpose of this, but then there's so much more.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
They can't really impact the children. So that AI, that algorithm helps them do their job more effectively. It's not replacing them. It's assisting. It's assisting. It's an enhancement. Exactly. And that's what's needed. Over the last 18 years, how have you seen this evolve, man? Because I imagine it wasn't easy. Level of determination.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
That's irony at its best right there.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
I love it, man. And for the audience paying attention to this, You hear his journey with the company, right? You heard all the bumps and bruises. Success is not a straight line. Everybody likes to think about, I got to wait and start until I have everything. You started everything. With what you had. And it wasn't a straight hockey stick up.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
It was success, then a plateau, then a fall, and then there was a lot of this. How important is determination in moving forward when you're going through something like this? Because the audience needs to hear that.
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
You're picking my every thought, dude. Like literally. And I think it's because we're a lot alike in this, right? It's like when we are building something and there's this level of determination, obsession to continue to go. How many times I sat to myself like, it's time to throw in the freaking towel. Like, you know, I just, I can't do this on my own anymore. But there was something in me.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
There was something in me that said, you know what, Sean? Blind faith. Just keep going. Release the next episode, next episode. And now I have amazing partners, amazing production team, amazing photographer, amazing, just support and guests. And, and, and it's because I pushed. Yep. It's because that thing inside me says like, nah, man, you ain't done.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
You may think you are, but like, that's what you went through.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And being okay with that. It's crazy, man. There was times on the journey, and I don't know if you felt like this, because I have a wife and I have a family too, but did you ever feel alone? Yes.
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
So good, man. Like there's so many lessons here for the audience to pick up and listen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
As we land the plane, if you could look into that camera and give the audience your best piece of advice through everything that they're going on right now, whether it's a sports journey, a marital journey, a parenthood, or even just entrepreneurship, like what, what would, what's the best piece of advice you would give? Um, okay.
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Mic drop. Thank you, brother. Hey, thank you so much for coming here to Florida with your family, seeing us and sitting here for a good amount of time, telling your story about your foundation and everything, man. It was truly impactful. I loved every minute of it. Thank you so much, dude. No, thank you for the opportunity. This is an opportunity and I appreciate it. Absolutely, man.
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
So you guys heard it best. There's so many amazing moments within this episode with Marlon Jackson that I need you to do me a favor. I need you to share this episode with someone that you know, love and trust that we get the most out of the story.
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
It may be even a youth that's going through some things that he went through as a child, or maybe it's a parent that's going through some stuff or an entrepreneur or an athlete. It doesn't matter. Share this episode with someone you know, love and trust. Until next time, stay determined.
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
See, that's what's tough, right? Like, and I want the audience to really key in on this. If you're watching, watch this. If you're listening, listen. Every person has a certain amount of trauma that they deal with within their life. I don't care who you are. Your life could look perfect on the outside, but there's some type of trauma.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And if that trauma is not dealt with, it is passed along to other members of a family or maybe even a spouse, right? The thing that I heard you say that resonated most, right, was, you know, my mom had some unresolved trauma and it caused her decision-making to be XYZ, thus my decision-making, my brother's decision-making, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
You know, it helps me find some empathy for my parents right now in this moment, because I look at things for face value sometimes, right? Like, okay, this is what I'm getting from, excuse me. This is what I've got from my mom and my dad, but this is what I want. But I never took it a step further to be like, okay, but why is it not there? What did they go through?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And I think that's important to understand human beings.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
I struggle with that, not believing it. in the moment, right? I mean, dude, we're married men.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Yeah, right. Exactly. No, no, totally. No, what I'm saying is like, I'm with you. I'm tracking, but you know, like how do you, right? And cause this is something I'm asking you, right? Is how do you, in the moment, right? Because we all have, like you said, everybody has reasons why they're reacting a certain way, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And how do we, as the person receiving that action, kind of filter down and stay in a point where we can actually respond instead of react?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
It's time to throw in the freaking towel. I can't do this on my own anymore. There was something in me that said, you know what, Sean? Blind faith. Just keep going. Release the next episode. And now I have amazing partners, amazing production team.
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Very good, man. And I appreciate that. When you go back to growing up, right, you're talking about certain decisions and kind of how you operated out in the world and society at school and everything. You were a football player, right? Yeah. But how did some of those things with your mom impact you and kind of the things that you did out there in the streets here in Pennsylvania? Yeah.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Weil wir durch Saisonen gehen, in denen wir von Dingen zurückkommen müssen. Und wir denken, wenn wir mehr tun, ist es besser. Wenn wir mehr tun, tun wir mehr, tun wir mehr, tun wir mehr. Aber wirklich, was wir gewinnen, sind diese konsistenten Dinge auf einem täglichen Basis, die sich in die Entwicklung dieser Beziehung zurückbauen. Oder die Beziehung mit dir selbst.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
or your business or your body or, or, or. And I just think that it needs to be highlighted more than the hustle culture, right? Because we want things that are sustainable. Whatever facet of life we're talking about. Because if it's not sustainable and you cannot do it consistently, then who cares if you did it for a month, three months ago? It's irrelevant.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Like, babe, I bought you flowers 17 times in October, but you feel neglected ever since.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
What's up everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Determined Society. I'm your host Sean Fritsch. Before I introduce today's amazing guest, please, if this is the first time you're listening or watching this show, hit the subscribe button, hit the follow button and share the show with anybody that you know that's going to get value out of today's guest and conversation.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
You know, I do these things every morning, right? When I'm sitting there in the parking lot of the gym, I write these things out. You read them. And every single morning, I don't want to be in that parking lot. Isn't that amazing? I mean, it's truly, and it's something you posted today. It's like, I don't feel like working out today, so I'm going to work out today.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Without further ado, follow our social handles at the Sean Fritsch and at the Determined Society for more clips and updates on everything we got going on and und uns auszuschauen. Aber heute habe ich einen fantastischen Individuum. Sein Name ist Josiah Novak. Er ist ein Fitnessprofessional, Kreator des 3M-Systems und einfach ein overall faith-based und fantastischer Junge.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
I don't feel like doing this, so I'm going to do that. It's not about look at me. It's about how much discipline can I instill in that very moment, right? Because when that alarm clock goes off, no matter, I don't care if you have it set for 6 or 7 a.m. Guys, I'm not, for those of you listening, I'm not saying you have to get up at 4 a.m. like me. I'm saying if you have to get up at 4 a.m.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
like me because of everything you have going on, then when the alarm goes off and you don't get up, you're showing lack of discipline at that very moment. And I have been there. Ja. Ja. But if you set it for four, you set it for six or seven or eight or whatever it is your schedule is, then man, I need you to get up and do that thing.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Because if you do that one thing, then the next right thing is going to be much easier for you to choose. Right? It's like when you go out to a restaurant, like I did before, right, before here, before we recorded. I got mixed greens and double chicken. That's it. But if I didn't wake up at 4 a.m.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
and I didn't follow the plan and the process and have discipline throughout the whole first part of my day, I might have said, well, what's wrong with that BLT on a croissant? Und vielleicht ist nichts falsch damit. Ja, vielleicht. Aber ist es das, was ich fühle, was ich dann tun muss? Dann gehen wir in die Disziplin und Prozess und Strategie. Und ich denke, das ist so wichtig im Fitness.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Aber wenn du es im Fitness umsetzen kannst, was sind deine Gedanken über deine tägliche Produktivität im Arbeit, in deiner Beziehung oder irgendwas anderes?
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
In einer sehr kurzen Zeit bin ich gute Freunde mit ihm und mache Leben mit ihm. Und ich bin super gespannt, Teil seines Programms zu sein. Aber einfach mehr als alles gespannt, sein Freund zu sein. Josiah, willkommen zum Show, Baby.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
There's a lot of anxiety there, man. You know what I mean? I think a lot of things that we deal with on a daily basis, whether we're a husband or a wife or just a human being, if you're not any one of those other two titles, is when we struggle to do the things that we know we need to do in order to get us to where we need to go, it's going to help us get better.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
When we sacrifice to negotiate with ourselves and don't do them, We're mad at ourselves. We're mad at ourselves all day. Then the fight with your spouse comes. Then the fight with your kid comes. Then the thing that the grocery clerk said actually wouldn't have made you mad, but it didn't.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
It ruined your day because you're so mentally whacked out right now because you can't even control your own decisions. That's truly what happens. What I found over the last month is that my response level is different. What was it yesterday? My wife and I were joking around. Sometimes we have
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
the most hysterical banter in public places where the servers are just like... I had some sashimi last night and the server was probably like, what's going on? Everything becomes more playful because... I'm in alignment with me.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
I'm taking care of my side of the street so I don't have anything weighing my mind down and I'm present in that moment and happy because I know I'm making another right decision. And then we just laugh and we have a great time. You know? I mean, that's what I want, right? And so for me, that's how things start manifesting in my life when I'm making the good decisions.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
All my interactions, to your point, become very free.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Yeah, and it's never about that. Anybody that has ever gone on a transformational journey will tell you that it starts from within. It's not about the macros. It's not about the weights. It's not about the steps. It's what you have to do internally to turn your thermostat up to the point where you sit there. I deserve this. I deserve to see what Sean French looks like at 12% body fat. Ja. Ja. Ja.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Yeah, I loved it. Big shout out to my boy AJ Ackerman. And it's funny how it happened, right? Because he tagged me on one of your posts. He's like, hey man, I'm going to work out twice a day. Are you in? I'm like, no, I'm not in. I'm not doing any form of 75 hard ever again. I've done it many times. But, you know, it's not the lifestyle that I want to live anymore.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Ja. You're not immune to that. To me, it's more about even now, I'm nowhere near what I want to be, but I'm feeling much better about it because I'm making those decisions. I know I look a little bit better now. If I can visually see it, I'm my worst critic. If I look in the morning, I'm like, okay, this is starting to get better. That's an internal thing.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Und es klingt visuell, es klingt extern, aber es ist es wirklich nicht. Es ist ein körperliches Glauben an diesem Punkt. Und ich fange an, alles in meinem Geist zu wiederholen. Und ganz ehrlich gesagt, das ist das erste Mal, dass ich es bewusst gemacht habe. Straight up, Dude. Straight up. Das ist das erste Mal, dass ich es konsistently gemacht habe, ohne Scham. Because that's another thing.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
I've been on this journey. It's like I would start to get in shape out of shame, hating myself. But now it's like, no, no, no. I love myself so much. I want to see how much longer you can be on this earth for your children. I want to be that old 90-year-old that's holding my great-grandkids. I want all these things. So for me, it's like... All right, we're pushing this envelope now, right?
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
And this is all internal. It's all it is, right? And even before, even when I was playing baseball, I mean, that was half a lifetime ago when I played at Louisiana State University. I did it because I was told to. Ich habe es gemacht, ich sah gut aus und war in Form, weil ich wusste, wenn ich es nicht hätte, hätte ich keinen Platz. Es war nicht, weil es meine eigene Entscheidung war, richtig?
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Und ich denke, das sind viele Dinge, die ehemalige Athleten, als sie rauskommen, und ich weiß, dass du vielen ehemaligen Athleten wie mich helfen kannst, in dieser peakigen Situation zurückzukehren, aber wenn du nicht mehr so performst, ist es sehr schwierig, in diese Zone zu kommen.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
But I just started, you know, kind of just diving into you a little bit. I'm like, I like this guy's energy, man. And I asked AJ, I'm like, who is this guy? He's like, I don't know. He's just a really cool dude. I dig what he says. He's, he's very cool. I'm like, all right, I'm, I think I'm gonna try to be friends with this guy.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
And, you know, and that's what has going on in the background of my mind. And then, Du hast einen Post oder so gemacht, der sagt, dein Ziel im Jahr 2025 wäre es, auf 50 Shows zu kommen. Und so, übrigens, wenn du ein Podcast-Host bist und du liebst gute Leute und du willst eine gute Botschaft senden, musst du meinen Jungen aufhalten.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Ich liebe es. Bevor wir den Show beenden, Mann, ich möchte, dass du über die 3Ms sprichst. Es ist ein großer Pillar. Ja.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Seine Handel und alles, um mit ihm zu kommen, wird in den Show Notes. Habe ihn auf deinem Show, weil ich denke, dein Publikum wird wirklich viel von ihm bekommen, wie du siehst, als du den Rest dieser Gespräche hörst. Aber, du weißt, dann hat er mich getagt und er ist wie Sean French. Ich bin so, Alter, lass uns das machen, Mann. Ja, genau.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Das wäre so viel Spaß, Alter. Off the air guys, people that are listening, watching, I was talking to Josiah about his most recent episode that he dropped. I did mention that he's a fitness professional, but I want to talk a little bit about your episode that you dropped on Wednesday. I think you recorded it on New Year's Day and it was called Buy Back Your Time.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Alter.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Audience, I hope you got so much out of today. You need to hit my boy up. Hey, real quick, where can they find you? I put in the notes, but go ahead and tell them.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
I can't wait to go on this journey with you. Jack, to have you in the network as well and building your show and getting your show out to many, many more people so they can learn from you. So again, man, thank you so much. Audience, whatever you guys got out of today, just understand that there is support here. Reach out to my friend.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Um, you know, at Josiah Fitness and he can help you along the way. And look, you know, the other thing that I need you guys understand is if you are moving towards something and you are doing the best you can and you're implementing something daily, then I need you guys to give yourself some grace. Literally give yourself some grace and just understand that we're all trying to figure things out.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
You may be so good in an area that I struggle in, so you have a gift. So give your gift to somebody else so somebody can give their gift to you and get you on track. So without further ado, thank you guys so much. Share this episode with someone that you care about. Until next time, stay determined.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Bis zum nächsten Mal.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Why don't you give the audience a little synopsis of where you were going with that and why you felt it was necessary to put that out there in the ethers?
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
4,8.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Yeah. Dude, honestly, man, like the one thing that struck me in that episode and all the things that you're saying, I'm resonating with because, you know, as a father of three and a husband, you know, I have the show, I have a couple other businesses, like, Time is of massive value for me. And I don't want it to be spent in the damn kitchen. I'm sorry, I just don't.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
I don't want it to be spent in a gym. Although I do find it productive for me to wake up at four. I don't like to wake up at four, but I just know that time-wise, if I get it done then, I have the rest of the day to do whatever it is I need to do. But the one thing that I felt was really helpful, and I don't think, Viele Fitness-Experten gehen darauf in großem Detail, wie du es gemacht hast.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Und ich weiß, du bist mein Freund. Und die Leute sagen, du hast ihn nur getrocknet, weil er dein Junge ist. Ja und nein. Okay, weil du sagst etwas sehr unaufhaltsam in den ersten zehn Minuten.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Warum gehst du in den Gym, mach es eine Stunde, du lachst für 15 Minuten mit all dem Fluff, machst Isolation-Exerzise, die wahrscheinlich nicht bringen werden, was du tun musst, um dich mehr lehnend und stark zu machen, was diese Komponenten-Bewegungen sind.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Und so, you know, as I'm going through the workout today, I'm thinking, well, now that I'm reflecting on it, I'm like, okay, he had me do this bench exercise, he had me do the bulletproof shoulders, which is multiple movements, right?
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
He had me do the back, he had me do some more shoulders, all more compound movements that were working more than one muscle group at a time, so it was much more efficient, getting... Das ist ein sehr guter Punkt und es wird nicht genug darüber gesprochen. Leute sprechen über mehr Volumen, mehr Volumen. Und in Wahrheit, ich sage das, aber First Form ist berühmt für das.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Ich wurde verletzt, einige ihrer Programme zu machen, weil es literally zehn Übungen, ein Workout war. In an intermediate level, I'm like, the volume here is just ridiculous. I don't even understand how I got through the four weeks, but then I ended up getting hurt, man.
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Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
Bis zum nächsten Mal.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Unlocking Your Fitness Potential with Josiah Novak: The Power of Consistency and Self-Belief
You said something that was parallel to life in every single way possible, man. The sexiness is in the boring or the mundane or it was something of that in that realm, right? And we seem to think when we're going for something, whether it's in business or oder Fitness oder sogar in unseren Verhältnissen mit unseren Schwestern, richtig?
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Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
You look at that cast, right? And it's like Well, the show is epic and legendary, right? And I think that if I were to put that show on in my house, my kids would binge the heck out of it. They wouldn't want to stop watching it. Because to me, it transcends all generations, right?
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Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Absolutely epic show was raised on it. Hysterically funny. This man is still going. In fact,
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Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Given the opportunity, put it in front of somebody, someone's going to watch it and be like, I'm never watching anything else. If I want to laugh, I'm going to watch this. This is genius. But you look at the cast. Es ist so, dass jeder, der jemand ist, von diesem Cast kam. Du, Jim Carrey, Jamie Foxx, J.Lo war einer der Flieger. Jennifer, ja. Ja, es war unglaublich. Es war absolut unglaublich.
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Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Wie hat das Arbeiten mit all diesen Leuten dich den Rest deiner Karriere geformt?
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Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
bet just green lit varney hill a spin-off of martin starring our own author of living in color tommy davidson what's up baby you got it you got it all right that was you got it all right dude i mean it's like you know it's kind of like it's my job right yeah it is it is it is i look for that i look for that but no man i truly i'm so excited yeah Thank you. I'm excited, man.
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Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Learned.
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Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
You were able to disconnect the emotion of the word to what it really didn't mean, right?
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Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Yeah, yeah. Not a lot of people have that perspective.
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Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Yeah, I do.
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Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
It's, you know, like I told you off air, I've, you know, been, and I just told the whole audience of the world that I've, you know, been a fan of you for a lot of years. And so, you know, when Val talked to me about you, I was like, oh, this is a no-brainer. I love it. And you've had such a great career, man.
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Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Yeah, man.
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Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
It's all amazing, man. I'm entrenched in this because a lot of people today, and I would imagine over the years, something happens to them. They have a trauma when they're little, something that happened that they can't control, but they let it define the rest of their future. And you had, and Tommy, straight up, dude, you could have let...
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Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
That childhood, you know, how you were found impact your mind and your soul the rest of your life and you would not have become what you've become as a human being, first and foremost, and then as a professional, right?
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Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
And, you know, from what I can already tell and from what I've heard, you're an amazing person too.
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Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
So what my audience loves to hear is like, they need help, man, because we all kind of get stuck in our ruts and they love to hear perspectives of how someone has chosen to overcome those adversities. So like, Give them a little peek behind how you, you know, because it seems like you've always had perspective on it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
But were there certain checkpoints that you went through daily to be like, all right, man, you know what, Tommy, you may have been there. You have great parents, but I'm going to get way up here and I'm going to show everybody what is possible for people that counted out.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
For sure. So, you have an interesting story, right? And you've been pretty public about it, right? Your childhood. If you don't mind, can you give the audience that may be a lot younger, that didn't get to watch all those years of amazing things of you, just a peek behind the curtain of who you are and how you've become, where you're at right now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Hmm.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
The one thing I want the audience to really key in on as they're listening to your story is going back to hanging onto the train as it goes, right? Because I think we all get in those modes. Hell, I'm on my own train right now and it's going fast as hell and I'm holding on, right? And I'm becoming who I'm becoming in the middle of it, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
But I also think it's super important to understand that those are the moments, right, that you grow as a human being and a professional. And the one thing that I loved about your story, outside of all the obvious things and hopefully the audience that's really tuned in, picked up on this. You can't judge your journey of where you start and where you're going to be.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Because if you say, hey, you know, your acting career, how did that happen? You know, how did you become... Would somebody mention a hospital? No. Would somebody mention, you know, a counselor, right? Saying, hey, college isn't for you. Probably not. So all this whole journey led you indirectly to where you're at now. And so that's the beautiful part about life, man. You know, and like...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
I just want them to really key in on that because people are going through shit, man. You know, they want to be this, you know, a certain thing and they think that, well, if I go over here and do that, it's not going to leave me there. Bruder, I played baseball in college, right? At Louisiana State University, playing the College World Series. Then I sold mortgages. And then I lost everything.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
And then I was a teacher and a baseball coach. And then I had my first child. I have three now. And I'm like, I need to make more money, so I'm going to go sell payroll. So I'm talking to all these different types of people, doctors, dentists, construction workers, you name it, traffic controllers, whatever. And I'm having all amazing conversations with these people.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
I'm like, man, this isn't getting me anywhere. And then I went to the medical industry, right? And so I'm having all the eclectic style of talking to multiple walks of life. And then all of a sudden, One of the top shows. Right? Podcasts. Well, it's because all those moments that I was judging was actually building me for this. Right. Life is beautiful, man. It just really is.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
That's it, right there, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
It's good to tap into that other energy and feel it, right? And get your mind off of what's going on. I... You know, because I'm respectful of your time. Before we land the plane here, let's talk about a jet. I always start it, okay? I love it, man. I honestly could sit here for two hours with you, man. I really could. Dude, I want you to talk about Barney Hill, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Barney Hill was an idea that I brought to Martin.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Right? It ain't over yet.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Mhm.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Es ist interessant, Mann. Es ist interessant. Wir wissen nicht, wann etwas schlägt, richtig? Wir wissen es einfach nicht. Und es ist so lustig, es ist so, dass sie noch nicht gesagt haben, dass sie es noch nicht gesagt haben. Richtig. Und ich denke, dass es eine gute Lektion ist, weil du saßt da, wie du gesagt hast, für fünf Jahre und dann nur über Nacht.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
overnight i mean for the outside looking in obviously right overnight it was like an explosion i think it was like a week and a half ago or something like that where the internet just blew up um about about your show and i'm just like yeah okay i was like i'm i'm jacked about this one and then val and i talked about it i'm like Dude, like this guy, I'm telling you, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
And she's, you know, obviously loves you. And, you know, so it's just it's just one of those things, man. I think it's a it's a testament for people that are listening that, hey, it may suck. It may feel like you're walking through hell and your clothing drenched in gasoline. But you know what? Hey, tritt es durch, es wird heiß. Aber eines Tages wird etwas passieren, wenn du vertraut bist.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Du hast einen Schluck Vertrauen in Gott, in alles, und sogar in dich selbst. Wie, yo, komm schon, was machen wir hier?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Any time.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Let's go to the next thing. The gift of being present. That's why it's a gift, right? That's why it's called the present. Presence, man. To be present is a massive gift, right? Because every moment is so precious if you allow it to be, right? So, dude, thank you so much for coming on.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Ich bin so gespannt, mehr von deinem Werk zu sehen. Ich weiß, es wird großartig sein.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Und gib mir das. Dann begann die Währung.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Das ist beeindruckend, Mann. Du weißt, was ich meine? Mic Drop. Es ist ein Mic Drop, Tommy. Hey, Mann. Mein Mann. Mein Mann, ich freue mich auf dich, Mann. Hey, Mann. Hey, no, I can't wait for it to come out. I know there's not a date yet, but I got your cell number, so I'll be texting you. I'm like, bro, give me some inside info, dog. I need to know this.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Yeah, I do. I get you, man. I get you. But I'm gonna land the plane here, big guy. And I just appreciate you so much. And I can't wait for just a lot more of Tommy, right? And to the audience. I really hope you do three things. One, first and foremost, share the show with somebody you know, love and trust, that his story would resonate with them. And then go check out his book, Living in Color.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
And then ultimately, when that show pops, Barnell Hill, I need y'all to go watch it, because if you haven't been exposed to Tommy's work, you need to go back and binge all the cool stuff he did, and then watch how he hasn't missed a beat. Hasn't missed a beat. And so, y'all, thank you so much for listening. Until next time, stay determined.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Come on.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
I don't even like white crackers.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
You know what I mean? That's interesting, man. Let me stop you real quick. That's perspective, right? It's like the innocence of a five-year-old, right? Or an eight-year-old, however you were at that time. You just thought like, okay, cool. It's like a horse. My parents got together. They had me and I came out brown. I'm a brown one. I'm a brown horse.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Hey, go do that over here. I'm going to hang out with Grandpa.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Wie hast du das durchgeführt? Das ist wirklich kritisch. Wie hast du das durchgeführt?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Gute alte Mittelamerika da, Mann.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
What's up, everybody? Welcome back. I'm your host, Sean French. Today I have with me a legend, a comedic legend, an amazing individual who's had an amazing career, someone that I've been following and watching ever since I was a young boy. In fact, I used to sneak out of my room on Sunday evenings because his show was on after my bedtime. You may have heard of it in Living Color.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Es ist interessant, weil ich all diese Dinge höre, wie all deine Erfahrungen, richtig? Und es ist, ich weiß nicht alles noch, aber, du weißt, und es würde Jahre dauern, um das zu wissen, richtig? Aber ich könnte, ich könnte einfach, ich könnte wirklich sagen, dass diese Erfahrungen dich in den intelligenten und hysterischen Individuen geformt haben, richtig? Ja, ja, genau.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Tommy Davidson Opens Up: Pain, Comedy, and the Fight to Belong
Ich meine, Mann, und dann, weißt du, du bist in living color, weißt du, in den 90ern, das hätte auch eine Erfahrung gewesen, richtig? Weil du weißt, du bist ein junger Mann, der wusste nicht, dass er schwarz war, bis er fünf war. Jetzt bist du in einem Show in deinen Zwanzigern, der in living color heißt. Und dann hast du ein Buch geschrieben, living in color.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
And it wasn't really like that behind the scenes.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French, and just like always, an amazing guest. But before I introduce him, I need you to go follow the YouTube, Spotify, the Apple Podcast, and share this episode with someone that you know, love, and trust that would get a lot of value out of this.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Yeah, that. Okay, alright. That was the best thing ever. So, you're playing Florida. Oh, yeah. It was at Florida, right? At a regional game. Okay, that's even... Yeah, four games away from Omaha. Four games away from the promised land. And you hit a home run.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Was war das? Ich meine, offensichtlich waren deine Eltern da, dein Bruder war da.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
And I want to hear you and understand what you love about the show. So on Spotify, you can leave me a comment, and it's me commenting back. So there's a little hack for you. Let's chat. Heute habe ich einen wunderschönen professionellen Athleten mit uns. Sein Name ist Cory Cubano. Einen echten Namen Cory G. Ich kann seinen letzten Namen nicht bezeichnen, weil es super ist.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
An diesem Moment, hast du die Emotion bemerkt? Die echte Emotion. Jetzt bist du emotional. Hast du das Lächeln in deinem Auge, als es tatsächlich passiert ist? Or is it kind of looking back perspective?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Ja, das ist das, was du nicht sofort realisierst. Wenn wir kreieren und wir sind authentisch und wir sind uns selbst, machen wir das, weil es uns heilt. Ich meine, das ist so, wie ich bin. Ich würde nicht sagen, dass wir, ich, wenn ich etwas rausnehme, wenn ich Gespräche wie diese habe, bin ich von meiner eigenen Erfahrung und von allem, was mit mir passiert ist. Und es hilft mir zu heilen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Und es ist okay, weil wir kommentieren. Wir haben darüber gesprochen vor dem Show. All right. Gib mir keine Scheiße darüber. Aber du weißt, er war ein College Baseball Spieler. Marshall University, then transferred to JU, and now he's a professional baseball player. He was with the Savannah Bananas up until recently. Now he's contracted to go play in a glow-in-the-dark league.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Aber in so einem authentischen Weg. Absolutely, man. I always tell like my...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Warum würdest du jemand anderes sein? Weißt du, ich denke, zu viele Leute verabschieden sich nicht von der limited edition, der One of One. Es gibt niemanden anderes wie dich. Es gibt vielleicht viele andere Leute, die Fußball spielen, aber niemand anderes hat die gleichen Fähigkeiten wie du. Nichts ist identisch. Ich bin einer von allen. Jeder, der jetzt hört, ist einer von allen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Du bist eine Verletzte. Und wenn du denkst, dass du nicht gut genug bist, ist das nur, weil du dich aufgrund von jemandem auf der rechten Seite von dir bestätigst. Du musst dich nach innen schauen und verstehen, die Gifte, die du hast, um die Welt zu bringen. Und das ist, wo die Macht kommt. Und wenn du das weißt, Nicht nur konzeptionell wissen, sondern eigentlich leben, atmen und es entdecken.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Ja. Die Welt und die Türen öffnen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Haben sie gerade erklärt, dass sie sich kämpfen? Ja. Okay, lass uns einfach darüber sprechen. Die Marketing-Fähigkeiten dieser Unternehmen. Ich habe meinen Bruder gesagt, das ist genius. Sie sind die besten Promoter je, Alter. Ja, ja. Der Moment, den ihr alle warten wart. Nur als du dachtest, dass der J. Tyson das Ding war. Ja. Jetzt werden die Brüder Trade-Shots handeln. Wie verrückt ist das?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Wie verrückt ist das?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Ich werde dich töten, Cory. Ich werde dich töten, Cory. No, you look like a lefty hitter, dude. You think so? Oh, hell yeah, dude. Well, I'm a baseball guy, right? It's like I see these things. I can look at you and be like, no, I ain't a pitcher. Because you're built like a hitter. There's a different build, man. Ja, genau. I don't like it. I don't like it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
So without further ado, Corey Cabana, welcome to the fucking show, dude.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
I feel like when they change rules, they are bending to the people that don't have a fucking attention span, that don't understand the game. It's like I'm a purist. I'm a purist, dude. Do not widen the bases for me. I don't care how long the game takes. I get that people are like, I don't want to watch a game. The header is grabbing his nuts, fits in his batting gloves. Remember Nomar Garcia-Para?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
But yeah, dude, I like that because anytime I can be watching a game or playing a game, Das ist für mich ein Entschluss. Ich mag es einfach nicht.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
You're in Miami. You're here in Naples. But dude, your schedule, man, it's crazy. My schedule's crazy. I'm just grateful you're sitting right here now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Es ist nicht das gleiche Spiel. Ich habe ein reales Show gemacht mit Peace of Grit Podcast, das ist mein Produktionsteams Podcast, way back in the day, maybe about a year ago, something that long ago, before they were even producing my show. Und wir kommen zu all dem. Und der Reel ging viral. Und ich hatte so viele Leute, die mich attackiert haben.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Wie, oh, dieser Kerl weiß klar nicht, worüber er spricht. Baseball ist furchtbar. Sie mussten das Spiel vergrößern. Das ist der Grund, warum Bananenball so populär ist. Halt, stopp. Herzstopp. Eine ganz andere Sache. Danke. Eine ganz andere Sache. Wenn du Bananenball brauchst, um zu gehen. Ich meine, ich nehme meinen Sohn. Februar 14. Wir gehen. Es wird Spaß machen. But it's different.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
It's a whole different game. You can't even compare it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
It's not the same. It's a show.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
This is what people say. They're trying to keep up with Banana Ball. And I think that's the problem. And they're not. At first they can't. Because it's completely different. It's again apples and freaking oranges here. But for someone who needs banana ball to enjoy baseball... Es ist ein völlig anderes Publikum. Es ist ein völlig anderes Publikum.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Well, dude, it's just, dude, it's on brand, man. I was a ball player myself, you know. Absolutely. Didn't get to quite take it to where you have. But for the audience that doesn't know Corey G, Why don't you give them a little peek behind the curtain, man?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Ja, und ich denke, eine Teil der Sache, die mich verrückt, ist, dass ich nicht verstehen kann, was Leute sagen, Baseball ist furchtbar. Weil sie in ein normales Baseballspiel gehen können oder es auf dem TV sehen. Das ist so langsam. Was sie nicht konzeptualisieren können, ist, wenn ich zurückkomme und sage, dass es auf dem Feld schnell geht. Es ist ein schnelles Spiel.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Du bist nicht mehr mit Bananen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Yeah, no, it's great. And dude, it brings the families together. They have fun. They include the kids. Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
I would have never said that on air if I didn't know it was okay. Yeah, I know.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Dude, so like, let me ask you a question. Because I'm a baseball guy, I'm like logistically thinking like, well, how can you read the ball out of the hand? Like, how is this safe?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
What's your team?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
This is where it was created.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Ja, ja. Wow, okay.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Ist das der Unterschied? Der Unterschiedmacher ist der kompetitive Aspekt?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Ich fange im April ab.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Nicht viel Frühtraining. Ich glaube, du wirst in der Dunkelheit trainieren.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Well, I mean, not normal is good. Yeah, yeah. Not normal is good. You know, like, here's the thing, dude. And I want to... All these amazing things that you're talking about, the success and being yourself and you have these opportunities, you know, with the Banana Ball organization and now the Cosmic Chili Peppers. It's amazing shit, but it doesn't come without adversity.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
There was something that I think you maybe have told me, but there was a moment where you were
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Look what I do with these things.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Eine letzte Frage für dich, Mann. Everything you've been through, the thing at Marshall, you know, the injury with, I can't even pronounce it. Ankylosing spondylitis. How about bamboo spine? We'll go there. With everything you've had, you've had to have an extreme amount of desire and determination. How did determination dictate how you operated every day to get to where you're at right now?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Like, how's this going to serve me, right? So I think that's a great, dude, those are great points. And that's where I want the audience to kind of just, Und ich möchte, dass jeder versteht, dass jeder in seinem Leben durch Scheiß geht. Keiner kann wirklich ehrlich sagen, dass es schön muss. Wir gehen alle durch unsere Scheiße. Wir sind alle auf der Grinde. Wir sind alle entscheidend.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Und wir drücken wirklich auf Dinge, die wir wollen. Aber das eine, was ich sagen würde, ist, wenn Dinge zu dir passieren, Anstatt die Gefängnis-Mentale zu nehmen, oh, ich bin schuld, oder warum passiert mir das wieder? Denk daran, wie mir das dient, und wie kann ich anderen in der Mitte dienen?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Und wie viel besser werde ich, wenn ich davon rauskomme, damit ich einen Einfluss in diesem Weltraum machen kann? Das ist, was ich euch heute wirklich herausnehmen möchte. Dieser Mann, er wird weiterhin tolle Dinge machen. Es gibt große Dinge, die von ihm kommen, über die wir nicht sprechen können. Just keep watching. Go follow this man at Corey Cubano. His Instagram will be in the link.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Go watch him play and really connect with him because he's an amazing dude. And guys, until next time, stay determined.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
During that time, he found ways to still put his brand out. He was being innovative and it led finally, not after one year or one video, sorry, literally two years of doing that. He got a tryout. Didn't make it, waited for the expansion, but he just didn't wait. He continued to make videos, honing his craft. My point to you guys is, you don't have to get ready if you stay ready.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Also bist du von J.U. am Fußballspieler. Ja. Du hast deinen Identitätsschiff als Manager verändert.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Es ist ein Fastball.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
That's determination, that's what the show's about. So what are you gonna do, fold your chin up and go home and cry? Dude, this is amazing.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Lass mich, lass mich, ich möchte, ich möchte einen Moment pausieren, weil ich möchte, dass der Publikum etwas aufsteht. Ja. Also es wäre mir schlecht, nicht zurückzukommen zu diesem Thema. Ja. Jetzt, während es prudent ist. Audience, I want you to understand something.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
This man played Division One Baseball at a very high level and then was exited from the game and wasn't too proud to go manage a first watch restaurant. During that time, he found ways to still put his brand out. He found ways that he can showcase himself. And what I heard from you, Corey, was like, it didn't matter. You're asking somebody at the park to film you. You put it on a tripod.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
He was being innovative. And it led finally, not after one year or one video, sorry, or one month, literally two years of doing that. He got a tryout, didn't make it, waited for the expansion, but he just didn't wait. He worked in the background. See, he continued to make videos, honing his craft, getting in better shape. And he was ready.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
So like my point to you guys is like, you don't have to get ready if you stay ready. And he's epitome of that. And now you're still in it, man. Absolutely. That's determination. That's what the show is about. Yeah. So what are you gonna do? Fold your chin up and go home and cry? Absolutely.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Ich liebe deine, Alter, weißt du, was ich, die eine Sache, die mir auf den Kopf kommt, wenn ich die Geschichte höre und mich besser kennenlerne, ist, Alter, du bist ein fucking Visionär. Ja. Und viele Visionäre, ich halte mich für einen Visionär, richtig? Und viele Visionäre sind oft missverstanden und unterappreizt, richtig?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Und ich denke, es ist, weil, du weißt, aus der Außenperspektive ist es wie, es ist ein Threat. Wie, du bist ein Threat an diesem Punkt. Ja. Wie, du warst ein Threat. Oh, ja. Ja, natürlich. Ja, natürlich.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Skip. Unglaublich. Ich habe 50 Dollar an einem Camp oder an seinem Badezimmer gemacht. Ich meine, Skip Burtman ist legendär. Ja. Ich war nicht going to say no to Skip. Ja. Ich gewinne und ich bin in Angst. Das ist verrückt. Es war eine Woche.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
yo listen up if you run an e-commerce business you already know shipping is a beast when i released my book i thought the hard part was done until i spent hours every day printing labels boxing products and standing in line at the post office that's when i realized my time is way too valuable ship station changed everything it lets you automate your shipping print branded labels from home
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I don't think there's enough focus and importance labeled on family dinners or family breakfast or who's sitting at the table anymore.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
That's all we do. Can I start? Nope. No. You're going to wait until everybody gets there.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Like, dude, like. If you can be present with your kids and they know that you're fully there with them. Right. They're going to give you that grace when you have to be.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
What's your favorite part about when you ask them a question? You know how kids, man, they just go, right? Give me one of your kids, one of the things that they do that you're just like, oh, my God, I'm so happy I asked this question. Now I get to hear you talk.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Yeah, that's pretty cool, yeah. I just love—because I'm, like, in my mind, I'm thinking through, like, the whole movie here, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
the time when your ex-husband was around, then during the divorce and the fact there was a point where he was trying to take your kids completely. We'll get to that, right? But now you have a good dude in your life who's stressing the importance of family dinners.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Bro, that's fucking amazing. I know. And that shows your children now that this man is treating them their mom with respect and value, not just that, but valuing them too. And I think that's, you know, really hard when you get into like blended families and things of that nature. So it's like, have you, have you just noticed them just opening up during dinner?
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Like, like obviously in stages, right? Cause before, like if you weren't doing it before, now all of a sudden you're doing, it's like, why are we doing this mom?
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
He's back in it now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
that's amazing because you broke a cycle.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
You know, everybody talks about cycles, right? And like if it, and then obviously there was a movie out there. It ends, it ends with me or ends with us or something like that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I've heard about that. I guess there's controversy about that now. I think I bring that up with Blake Lively and Justin Baldani.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
It's getting old. We're not going to touch on that. No. Maybe, maybe, maybe we will. I don't know, but you know, it ends with us. And I think the big lesson there is, is like when, when, when, I was treated a certain way as a kid, you know, or, or anybody, right? Like we have to look at what that's going to do to the next generation.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Sarah French, what up? the pain inspire me i put my all in everything i'm doing up until it's done i'm me for the entirety i'm putting over time i'll be working just know i'ma go for mine because i earned it they watching i know it's time i confirmed it the whole society determined
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
You know, so are we going to break generational curses or are we going to add to them? So like, you know, for you, you know, when you made that transition out of your marriage, like there was a point in that, in that decision-making and, and for me too, cause I, this is my second marriage. Okay. Okay. So for me, you know, I don't talk about it enough. I probably should.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So the audience understands more, but you know, I'm not ready to, I'll talk about things and I'm ready. And I think me saying that this is my second marriage is the first time I've ever said it on air. Um, you know, so I said to myself at one point, I'm like, am I the man that I want to be in this specific marriage right now? And the answer was no. and not placing blame on anybody.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
My ex wife and I are like really good friends now. And my wife and her are close and I adore her. I love her to death. And the thing is, is like, I'm not, not just that I'm not the man I want to be, but what are my children going to learn from me? It has to end now. And I have to cut it off now and have to go through the pain of the divorce and the timeshare, the fucking timeshare, dude. Come on.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
That's hard. But it was done for the betterment of them long term.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Like, oh, I'm like, that's hard.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
They're excited. They get two Christmases.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
It makes it different. It makes it different. But, like, I can really relate. I can sympathize with that. Yes. Like, no one really... no one really understands what divorcees are going through when there's kids involved, unless they've been through it themselves. Right.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
It is like due to a point where I'm like, yeah, no, I can't ever not be in this marriage because there's no way I can not be with my son. Oh, Right? Like, there's no way I can be with my daughter. Like, whoa, like now though, you know, we're, you know, it's equal amount of time. And it's like, and there's, there's people, I know there's people watching right now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Like, no, you know, marriage, you know, you, you don't get divorced. You stick it out. Those kids are suffering. You don't fuck you're talking about. It's an ideology. Yeah. Right. And I think that that ideology to me is like, OK, well, my children can grow up in this home that it's contentious and then grow to hate both their parents and then have messed up relationships on their own.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Or I can break the cycle.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French. And before I introduce today's guest, please do me a favor, hit subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple, and make yourself this promise that you're going to share this episode with someone that you know, love, and trust that needs to hear the message today.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
See, I like what you just said there. that you didn't have this career before, that you have now. Walk the audience through that, right? Because this conversation's flying by and it's amazing. And there's a bunch of descriptors in there of how dark and contingent it may have been. But let's talk about the things that came out of it, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So now your career, you're like one of the top luxury real estate agents in Houston, Texas. How has the freeing of that energy helped you grow your career?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But you did the work to get that self-worth back, right? Like, explain that to the audience because it's like a lot of people say like, hey, you know, don't put your self-worth in another person. That's not what you were doing.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
That's not what you were doing.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
How did you get that back yourself?
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Once again, I always appreciate...
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I love it. It's so funny. Cause I'm sitting here looking up at the ceiling and smiling because when you go through shit like that, that's the heavy lift. Like that is like when you are feeling emotionally, that is when you're feeling in your soul, your body hurts. It almost hurts physically to make that next good decision of waking up in the morning, eating the right food.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
ratings comments whatever i love to know what you love about the show i love to know where we can get better too so always here to hear your feedback so today i have an amazing guest from houston texas her name is heather shepherd and she is an absolute badass she's overcome so many things in her life recently she had a life-altering event that happened a divorce she was married and
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
No, you just want the pizza. No, you want to lay there and be a bum. You want to feel fucking sorry for yourself. You want to be depressed because that's how you're feeling currently. But when you work through those and you come out strong, You know, like that's what you've done, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So now anything that you have to deal with, contractual issues, buyer issues, seller issues, how easy is that to deal with now?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I think it's one thing to say it, right? To tell a kid, you can be anything you want. You can do this. You can do that. So all you parents out there, you're telling your kids they can be or do anything or have anything they want, be, do, have. The fuck are you doing? Because if you're not doing it, then they are not going to follow you. I'm looking right at you because I've been there.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I've been there. I cannot talk about discipline and determination when my body was a fat, fluffy mess. I can't because I wasn't controlling in that one area. But now that I do control the one area and things are starting to grow professionally now, everything comes together. And now your kids are saying, wow, I could do that. So you either say to your kids, right, you can do this.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
You can be or have anything you want or you can show them how the hell to do it.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But you're doing that. Like, that's the thing that I want you to understand. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the point. It's like, you know, yes, you know, you're out of this marriage. You're out of like all this other shit. But what you're really showing your daughter and your two sons is like, mom can fucking rock it. And mom can rock it.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And she can smile and keep her chest up and her head up through all this stuff. Like, dude, why can't I? So like there's going to be, there was moments I'm going to tell you right here, because the audience that doesn't know her daughter's a freshman and was on varsity basketball and they won a district championship.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
There was times during that year that she just won the district championship that she wanted to give up. I'm going to tell you right now, because that's the way things are, especially as a young adolescent. And there was something whispering to her not to, and it probably was the fact that she saw you persevere out of that situation.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Tell me about her drive. What does it look like?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And it was not a pretty situation for her in a sense of dealing with a narcissist. And she has broken free from those chains and she's out there killing it in motherhood and in business. So without further ado, Heather Shepard, welcome to the show.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
It's learned behavior. You know, it's funny because, you know, I'm listening to you, but I'm also watching every move. Like that's the one thing that people don't understand because I'm very incognito about it. I see what you did when you got here. Right. Cause you posted it. I saw what you did this morning because you posted it. You were up, you were at the gym. You got a quick one in like,
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
you're living it, right? So you can say it with your chest, right? Like you're living out loud. And I, and, and those are the things that kids pick up on. So as I always think, and I, you know, I don't know who coined this phrase. I didn't, but I use it because I love it. And if I remembered who said it, I would quote you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I'm sorry if you're listening and I don't know it, but like the best lessons aren't taught, they're caught. So everything that your child sees you doing is teaching them more of a lesson than you telling them something.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So, you know, what are my kids watching me do? They wake up in the morning, what am I doing? I'm drenched in sweat making their breakfast.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So what's your move? What's your move when you're older? Like, what are you going to do?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Like, that to me is... showing them something and they're catching lessons. Have you ever thought of it like that?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Everything you're doing, they're watching. They are watching. You may not know it, but they are stalking your ass. And they're finding the holes, right? Because this is what the kids do, especially the 14-year-old.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Okay. And then your 12-year-old, maybe not your 10-year-old yet, but your 14 and 12-year-old are trying to find the chink in your armor. Where are the holes so I can exploit them when I'm in trouble and throw it back? And if you don't have them, if you don't show them, they can't. Right. But if you just display determination, grit, resiliency. Yes. Like that's what they're going to learn.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I'm jacked you're here.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So what they what they find is they start looking for your holes, but only find all the light.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And Jack, you're an amazing human being. And so I just remember, you know, for the audience listening, it's so funny how connections are made, right? You sent me a direct message, I don't know, a couple months ago, really. And it was just, you know, it was so sincere and sweet. And I'm like, I got to, I'm going to respond. I'm going to respond to this.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And then they gravitate to that and then that becomes them.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
That's how you keep them from getting behind the wheel drunk.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So like I, it's funny cause my wife and I talk about this all the time is, and we tell this to our, you know, to Bobby who's 11. It's like, Hey, look, as you get older, you're going to be, you know, things are going to be in your face. Like you're going to be out potentially at a party.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
If something goes on, I need you to be comfortable enough to call me and we're not going to yell at you no matter what you did, but we're gonna have a conversation. Not that night, but in the morning, but I'd rather you make it home alive.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Like that's heavy, right? It's so heavy. But in these formative years, 14, 12, and 10, displaying rational behavior when you hear something from them, like if you never overreact to something, okay. And then you can be that calming voice and be their peace so they feel they can be honest with you. Like that's where that real relationship comes from.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Because there's life going on, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
There's life going on constantly.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Two years apart. It's like bang, bang, bang.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So, okay. So let's start tying in the career now. Walk me in the audience through what having a successful real estate business means to you at this point in your life. Because it's not just about the money.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And you know, it was just, you were wanting to come onto the show. And the one thing that I really loved about your approach was it was kind, it was gentle, but also unapologetic of wanting to get your story out. Right. So you applied to be on the show and here you are.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Yeah. My mom went through the same thing.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
She did, man. So, you know, she, you know, she's had multiple marriages, but, um, the, my dad, he was, He's my dad.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
They ended up getting a divorce. And before that, she had never been able to live on her own. Never had to.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And she's killing it. She bought her own home. You know, she's gone through two hip replacement surgeries, two knee replacement surgeries. And this woman, you know, her perspective, I love you, mom, but your perspective sometimes is fucked up. Right. She still has that poor me type mentality at times, just being honest, but she fights through it. She's a fighter. She's determined. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So it's like for you and you're sitting there saying like, I can support myself. I can support my own life. I can support my kids. I can do this. There's, there's audience people right now listening that don't understand that they don't understand what you said because they think, well, why wouldn't you be able to?
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Explain to them, like enlighten them because they need to understand what you went through and what this actually means.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So for the audience that doesn't know your whole story, why don't you start by telling them a little bit about who you are, what you do, then just briefly start going into the story of the reason why you're here today.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Cause it was never about you bettering yourself. It was about you being able to stand on your own two feet.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Health insurance, food on the table.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Such a simplistic thing, right? Isn't that weird? Like this whole thing brought out the freedom to choose.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
You get the choice to live what life you want to live and to provide for your family, your children. Right. Wild shit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Right? No, like truly. Because like if nobody's gone through what you've gone through, they don't get it. But now I think they have a little bit of an idea. Like you get to choose now. Right? Without consequence.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
The only consequence is a positive one. Right? Your children get to see this. And then your boyfriend gets to fall in love with that over and over and over again every day. That is a powerful situation. And you're an avid worker outer too. You love soul cycle.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Yeah. You love your weights.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So you pour into yourself like multiplier. That's my point, right? It's like you, you go to your soul cycle and then you also have a personal trainer that you, you know, go lift weights with twice a week. So you're consistently pouring back into yourself. How freeing was that?
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
You don't have to ask permission.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And your girl just won a district championship.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Well, you were stuck in a place of lacking. Right now, you're in a place of growth. You're in a place of yes.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Yes. I can do that, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I think that's important because that's when you're truly living.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
The 40s are still young, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
We're still spring chickens.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I'm just figuring out who I am.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I remember when I was a kid thinking like 42 was old.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And so that, but that's when the first ever The Determined Society was recorded when I was 42 years old.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And this, so I'm 46 now this month. I think it's maybe tomorrow. Wait, or the 27th. I'd have to look at that. It is the four year anniversary of the show.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But that was a pivot I did at 42. And it wasn't the only thing I did. Now, recently, now this is the only thing I do, right? But before that, it was like, you know, I was a baseball coach and a teacher. I was a sales rep. And now I'm doing, now I'm shifting to this. But it was a hard pull. It was like something inside me was just like, like,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
trying to come out and I was like okay I gotta explore this I gotta figure out what it is I'm probably gonna suck no one's gonna listen right that was like one of the first the first episode was like if you're listening, thank you. I don't know who's going to listen.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And the vision for the show was so small, but as things continue and the consistency happened and there were some breaks in between, right? Because it was, there was frustration, there was depression, there was, you know, anxiety. There was a lot of different things that happened in the last four years that I finally got a hold on over the last year and a half.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And then ever since then, it's been like Lightspeed ahead. Yeah. Right. But, but again, at 42, I made that move. I chose differently and I lost a lot of people along the way.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Everybody thinks it's cool until it's serious. Right. Everything is cool. Oh, that's cute. Yeah. You can speak here. You can do that. But then when all the attention comes like, whoa, wait a second. You can't be a part of XYZ anymore because your focus is here, right? I fully intended to continue with my sales career and do this.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But what I found out is corporate America don't like that. They don't like it. No. They don't like it because of what you may say. It may represent them. So now I'm just my own dude.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I'm just my own dude now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So happy. So happy. At times, it's still hard. It's still hard sometimes. It's stressful. But I would rather have that and know that I can fully control what I do, then, you know, have my life sitting in somebody else's hands.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But you can surely attest to that yourself because that's what you've done with your life.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Damn. Damn. What do you love most about real estate?
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I'm not surprised. Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
It's so funny because like the first thing you said was watching your clients get settled in their new home. How much of that is a personal one for you because of what you went through? You like seeing it in other people. You got to go deeper more often on yourself, man.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Think about it. So you're reliving your wins through these other people. And that is a great way. That is a great way to live, you know, through other people. Right.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
That's a nice vicarious win.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Because it reminds you of what you've done and now you're giving it to other people. That's a gift. That's a gift, dude. So much. I'm getting goosebumps.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Most people love selling the house because they can provide financially for their families. And yeah, they get the cool photo op with the people. Neat. You know, this will help you sell the next house. Right. But you're, but you're, it's different for you on a, on a, on a, on a physical level. You're feeling it differently.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But you don't realize it until I bring it up. So now next time it happens. And when you see somebody like physiologically, you're going to feel that feeling. And that is why you're having so many great things come to you because your mind doesn't know whether it's happening to somebody else or happening to you. Has no clue. It can't judge.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But if you visualize the feeling that you have when you're selling the house and seeing the people and feeling that emotional state, your brain doesn't know that that's a simulation. It has no idea. So it, so it's real. And so that you vibrate on a certain level and that's what comes to you because there's no other way. Cause that's the only thing you're looking for. Yeah. That's true.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
You're doing a lot of cool shit, man.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I can tell you walked into first watch and you were lit up. I'm like, damn, I better get on my game. Cause she's, she's coming in here like a fucking spark plug.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Don't forget after the show, you still got to ask me those, all these things. So as we land the plane here, 2024 was about consistency for you. What is 2025 about?
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
That's a door to door solar panel sale shit.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But even if you did, it'd be whatever.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
The point is, is you're out there doing it. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
This is interesting because, and I want, I want to take a pause real quick and I want the, I want all moms and dads to listen. When you're going through making a decision, you know, for that's going to change the lives of not just yourself, but your children. There has to be the fair trade, right? Like what's this going to cost me, but what's the reward, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
You can't expect growth and not do uncomfortable things. Right. Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
That's really awesome. I love that word growth. You know, I love the fact that you have, Something tied to it, though, right? Because some people say, yeah, I want to sell X many houses, right? Well, how are you going to get there? What are your KPIs? How many doors do you have to knock on? How many calls do you have to make? How many listing appointments do you need?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
How many buyer meetings do you need? How many houses do you have to show? I go on and on and on and on.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But I think the big thing is when you have a set plan, like this is what growth looks like to me this year, right? then it's attainable, right? And as long as we stay disciplined in our own life, your morning routine, whatever. Like the morning routine we were talking about. Yes. Morning routine's cool.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
There's a lot of IGers out there like, oh, my morning routine, I walk for 45 minutes, then I breathe for another 30 minutes, then... I have a walk with my wife and we have 17 cups of coffee. And by one, I start working and I made $9 million last month.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Fuck off. Like, shut the fuck up. You're lying. Okay. Really? What the morning routine does is just get you to keep your word to yourself.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So I don't care what your morning routine is. Like, you know, there's a lot. I wake up at four. And I'm in the gym by four 30, not because I want to, or I think I have to. It's just like in my schedule with everything I have going on with the three children wanting to spend time with my wife and my kids, extracurriculars, my son has baseball. My girls have gymnastics.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Like it's the only time I could do it. Yes. Right. So my morning routine is about executing things that I say I'm going to do. And so if, if someone else is, I need to wake up at seven and I need to read 15 pages, then yes, then that's what you do. That's your morning routine. It doesn't have to be groundbreaking.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
It just has to be like something that you said you were going to do and you stick to it. And so I think that's like an important lesson. So as we wrap up, the one question I have for you, obviously this is the Determined Society. What does determination mean to you and how have you applied it to your last two years?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So why don't you walk the audience through that pain? Because you talked about, you know, you just couldn't live like that anymore. And in fact, you know, you told me at one point, like, I'm going to die if I keep living like this. So let's connect that with the audience and let them know the things that you were going through.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Yeah. It's so funny because I look at, you know, motivation. I look at determination and then I, and I like to, I like to think of this as like, it's doing what you say you're going to do long after the emotion wears off.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
It's easy to get excited about getting in shape. It's easy to get excited about being a top luxury realtor. It's easy to get excited about having a top 10 podcast. It's easy to get excited about it. But what happens when that emotion wears off? What are you going to do? So thank you so much for coming on today.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Absolutely. Coming all this way. This episode was awesome.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
You did so good. I appreciate you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Give everybody where they can find you on Instagram or your website.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
What's your website?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
There you have it. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for listening and watching on YouTube or Spotify. Please don't forget to send this episode to somebody that you know would get a bunch out of it, but hit the like button, hit the subscribe, leave a review. Until next time, stay determined.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Shout out French. What up? This one's luck. I let the pain inspire me. I put my all in everything I'm doing. Up until it's done, I'm me for the entirety. I put in overtime. I be working. Just know I'm a gopher, man, because I earned it. They watching. I know it's time. I confirmed it. The whole society determined.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So that way they can understand your story more than, hell, you could be a beacon of hope for them.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
That day you're like, I'm just done. It's funny. You mentioned your daughter. Yeah. but you know what I also find very interesting too. And my wife sent me this real earlier today. It was like, as a, as a man, as a father, right. It is our job to lead in the household from the standpoint of the daughters, right. And from the daughters of like daughters get their confidence from their father.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And like, the little boys learn how to treat women from watching their dad. So it's not just about your daughter. It's about what was going on in that home that your sons were going to see. Then eventually, if they were around it enough, that's how they would treat women.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
That's some fucked up shit, isn't it?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Now you mentioned violence. So it got physical at one point then, right? Well, just like...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Like throwing shit, breaking shit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
It's a form of intimidation, though, right? And it is a form of abuse.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
It's really hard. Like how, when you were going through those moments of walking on eggshells and just living in a constant state of fight or flight, how did you manage that?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
That's incredible. I want everybody listening, whether you're a woman or a man, just know that you living in your home and being worried about potentially What's going to happen next, right? Waiting for that next shoe to drop. It's not a way to live, right? It's not a way to live. And you can't thrive if you don't feel peace in your own home.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So I think the word peace is very applicable to many things we do outside the home, whether it's building a podcast, being a successful realtor, a great school teacher, or even a car salesman. You have to have some peace inside. in order to be fully functional out there in society and to be able to thrive, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
The one thing I remember you saying was, you know, multiple times, but even just then, and when you were speaking was now you're able to have a successful real estate career. Explain to the audience what that means because they're saying, well, why couldn't she before?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Dude, it's funny because I think moms in general, and I think good dads, I don't think it's gender specific. I want to be very clear.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Because I deal with a lot of dad guilt. I deal with a lot of dad guilt. Yes. And so does my wife, right? Mom guilt. Yes. And you clearly have mom guilt too. It's a real thing. So parents listening is like, listen, as long as you are out there trying to better yourself so you can be... whole for your family, then don't feel guilty.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Like if the kid has to go to aftercare one day or somebody else has to pick the kid up, like, is it really going to be earth shattering? Now what would suck is like, if you just didn't plan for that and then you couldn't get to pick your kid up and they're sitting there at the like the, you know, pick up like, fuck, where's mom? Where's dad? Like that's mortifying.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
The one thing I remember you saying was now you're able to have a successful real estate career. Explain to the audience what that means, because they're saying, well, why couldn't she before?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But like, I just, the, the, the parent, the parental guilt, like I go through it a lot because my phone goes off. I mean, we had breakfast together. You saw my phone going at ape shit the whole fricking time. Like, but there's some things that I do have to answer.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So it's like walk the audience through how you deal with, you know, the, the, the parental guilt, because like, it's a real thing, but also it's, Is it necessary?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I'm with that, right? Because everybody talks about balance, right? If you talk about balance and I'm like eight hours at work, eight hours with my child, eight hours in the gym, eight hours reading, eight hours with God, like you cannot do that. Really what we're searching for is how can you be present in those moments?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So if it's like every Thursday night now and it's Thursday, right? Yes.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So, like, for me, I know I get to go with a walk with my... oldest daughter tonight. That's our thing on Thursday nights. We go, we go in the neighborhood, go for 15, 20 minutes. It's my time to connect with her. And last week when we did, it was the first week, right? Because I do, I do realize like she needs one-on-one.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
She needs me one-on-one.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And so does my daughter, my, my six-year-old daughter, right? My son, he can thrive at baseball, but sometimes he wants to mess around and play some PlayStation with dad.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
It's all good. But, but, but, you know, having that time, I left my phone. And, and like the, there's this thing, the box that we have, we put our phones in there and not enough. We don't do it enough. We need to put them, put them in there a lot more freaking often.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So I have my phone in there and I come back and my wife goes, Hey, I texted. I'm like, yeah, I didn't take it. She goes, wow. Because that right there, that 15, 20 minutes, my daughter's not going to view that as 15, 20 minutes. She's going to view that as the highlight of her fucking day.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Because I was focused on her. I didn't have the stupid Apple watch. I didn't have my phone on me. It was just there being there with her, talking to her, right? And so that's great. Like, hey, listen, you know, sometimes you can't do one-on-one.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But when you when you do have that time with your children and it's family dynamics. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So if you're there by yourself and you have three kids, how can you do one on one with all three when you got.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
You got them all to yourself. Right. But it's it's being present at dinner. Like to me, dinner is non-negotiable. Like, no, we're sitting down like no one's from the outside can penetrate these 40 minutes right here. Because I think one of the biggest things, and then I'll let you go is let you talk is, you know, in society today, I don't think there's enough.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
turns into gold brad what's up buddy welcome to the show brother good to see you so good to see you man i'm a big fan of your work i've before um even having the prospect of being able to interview you um i have i've seen your name in your face um so i am familiar with your work but getting to know you briefly you're just i think it's important to start off with this so the audience knows what they're getting into you are a very kind human being i i appreciate that um
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
I remember watching the commencement and there was a lot of funny points. You displayed humor and your speech was so eloquent and just different than a lot of other commencement speeches. It was almost like an interaction instead of a lecture that most commencements are. And when it came to the point where you want to... You want to shock the world, show kindness. The place went nuts.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
Yeah, it's interesting because that is the exact message I got, right? And it's something that I try to live by on my show and in my life in general, right? Because what you see is what you get. I'm not one way here and then another way in my personal life. Do I have my flaws? Absolutely. My wife will tell you, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
But it's one of those things, man, where what I've learned in building this platform is that Multiple people from all walks of life who may have different beliefs want to be heard and they want to not just be heard. They want people to understand their perspective.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
And that's what I've really tried to do with the platform is create a neutral place where they can go, not feel judged, can be heard, can give feedback, and pretty much anybody's welcome.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
I was asked a question today, right, with everything going on. Obviously, this is not a political show, but everything going on in the world, the apps are designed to get us to fight, right? And then just most recently, obviously, everybody's talking about the tariffs and all that stuff. I don't want to get into the details of it, but I was asked my POV.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
And I said, here's what nobody wants to hear right now. no matter what you believe, where you sit on the aisle, whether you're left, right, middle, doesn't matter, confused, or wherever you sit, You are being impacted by the government's decisions, no matter what. So you can play the blame game all you want, blame it on one side or the other.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
But the reality is, Brad, what we have to do right now as parents and humans in this society is stay in our lane, focus on one thing, focus on our families, focus on our craft, focus on getting better and putting good into the world. And what happens, happens. That's all we can control.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
We know that. There are.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
Yeah, I'm not going to. I wanted to, but now I don't.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
I agree with that. It's funny, real quick, because you touched on the gold chain and the charm. What was your gold chain?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
I still have a gold chain, two bats crossed, and a baseball with a diamond in the middle of it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
It's just simple. My parents gave me this pendant when I was playing high school baseball. And my mom asked my son one time, she goes, honey, what would you like for Christmas? He goes, I want a chain just like my daddy.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
Undo me. Here's where it gets crazy. He got a white gold one. It's not identical, but it's two bats crossing a ball. And one day I just hear this sobbing upstairs and I'm like, what the hell just happened? I run upstairs. I'm thinking like he broke his leg or something or something happened and he's in the bathroom and the pendant completely snapped in half.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
The man, the young man was so hysterical because it meant something so much to him. And again, my mom ended up getting him another one and it's all fine.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
Yeah, and I just think that's the start of teaching young children. Like you mentioned, ordinary people changing the world. Let's really focus on this for the audience right now. Audience, I really want you to think about this. The reason why you follow people and you love people and you're influenced by them, hopefully it's for the right reasons.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
And typically, there's a lot of people out there doing good things in the world and we really need to tune into them. And they're just ordinary people. Like, hey man, we're ordinary people, me and you, right? You know, it's so funny because as my journey gets a little more intense and involved and become more known, people look at me different. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
And they look at you different because, you know, hey, look, you're 13 time New York Times bestseller, but you're still Brad. You're still an ordinary person who is executing on their gifts. Right. And by you doing that, you're living your real purpose in life and you're spreading love as a result. And that's where I really focus on things.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
And it just, to me, it's touching because if I look at everybody I look up to, all the people I look up to, it's not the normal people you would think. It's people that I can connect with when I'm having these conversations and know and feel where their heart's really at.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
So it's so funny. Like when you told that story, I kind of chuckled, right? Because we all have that person. I remember, you know, growing up in seventh grade and, you know, my PE school teacher, Mr. Dorn saying that you were the worst athlete. You'll never amount to anything. And I'm like, I looked at him and I go, what do you mean? He goes, well, you can't run the mile. You can't do this.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
You can't do that. I'm like, oh, that's all. That'll be fine. I go, we haven't got to the baseball portion of this unit yet. And then once I did, once we got there, you know, I showed everybody, you know, the athlete that I was. But the main thing is, is having those people, those doubters. I mean, because, you know, there's been plenty of doubters on my current journey.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
At the beginning, there was a big chip on my shoulder and I wanted to prove everybody wrong. Now I'm on this massive journey just to prove myself right. And, and, you know, in, you know, as a consequence, it's like kind of given everybody else that, you know, that proverbial middle finger that said I wouldn't do it, that laughed at me and said, who is going to listen to your show?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
And I'm like, well, I mean, I guess now I guess a lot of people.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
Yeah, those were cool.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
And see, and that's what I love, right? And for the audience, as we land the plane on this episode is, Choose to get the lesson out of that. You've wrote many, many books, and they've all been successful, but that one moment was the pivotal moment in your life and your career. You could have said, you know what? I just don't have it. I'm just not going to do it. And one major...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
I guess you would say a similarity to all successful people is that they have that moment where they are rejected that last time that kind of just breaks the ice. And it's like, you know what? I'm going to go hard. I'm going to continue to go hard. And one day this is going to be successful. And that's what you've done.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
And that specific moment and everything that you do every day, that is your process, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
But that's what people are missing.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
I love that. That's what I'm saying. That's what you're saying. Of course. Same thing. Gosh. It's like you don't get to the top without getting your teeth kicked in.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
It's interesting, right? Because as we grow up, we have certain things that happen to us in our lives, whether it's... I grew up in a rather, I would say, explosive situation. My dad wasn't punching holes in the wall, but I remember my parents fighting a lot. There were screams and there were things like that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
That's it. It's like that, it's the stubbornness, it's that discipline, that's the determination, right? I saw it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
The main thing is those 24 rejections are the 24 things that made you who you are.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
Now you're a superhero, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
I feel that. I feel that. Well, man, look, dude, thank you so much for coming on and having this conversation with me. I know my audience is going to get a ton out of our conversation and I can't wait to read. We are the Beatles. I can't wait to read it to my children because, you know, for the parents out there,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
If you want great books for your children so they can read something to look up to people that are worthy of looking up to, check out Brad Meltzer's series. You're going to love it. I can't wait to read it. And like I said, read it to my girls. And dude, it's just been a great pleasure having you on today. I just thank you so much.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
And typically, as these kids grow up, as you grow up and as I grow up, we have the opportunity to uh, determine how we, um, I guess raise our children and how we are in the house and the cycle at some point has to stop. Right. And, and so how hard was it for you to break that cycle? Um, cause you created a completely different POV for your kids.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
Well, I am positive this is not the end of our communications and our relationships. So I'm grateful for that. To the audience that listened to this episode or watched it, please send this episode to somebody that you know would get a ton out of it. Someone that's going through things that the world may seem unkind to them, but they're struggling anyway.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
Let them listen to this episode so they have the courage to continue on. Until next time, stay determined.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
Yeah, that's an interesting story. I have a similar story, not, you know, my mom or dad choking somebody, but I can remember, you know, because I grew up in California and I lived in this place called Kinwall Apartments. It wasn't in the best area. You know, I was young. We didn't have anything, didn't have any money.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
And at one point I'm walking along, going to play with my friends in the apartment complex, right? And these guys upstairs were shooting BBs at me. And I don't know how old they were. They were probably mid-20s, early-30s, right? Or something like that. I'm not sure. But I went home and told my mom. I was like, hey, these guys in the apartment, whatever number it was, they're shooting BBs at me.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
And my mom went up there, knocked on the door. They answered. And she goes, you shooting BBs at my son? They're like, oh, it was just a joke. And she lost her ever-loving mind, Brad. Literally, they tried to close the door on her. And that woman put her fist through an apartment front door.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
Wow. So the protective aspect, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
You know, that's the thing. It's like, and my wife's the same way. They're one of our three children, right? We had two beautiful girls and you know, like they're, they're at my middle daughter's at this age where she's starting to get picked on a little bit. She's eight. And there's some things that went down earlier.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
And I'm like, I said to my, I said to my wife, I'm like, I need to find the dad.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
You need to find the dad of this young boy.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
I love that, man. And it's so funny because nice guys like us, people think that there's not that other side to us.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
I hear you, man. You know, I tend to stay quiet in those situations because I'm afraid I'm going to say what I'm going to say. But, you know, the bottom line is, is like, just because we're kind, just because we're real and authentic doesn't mean we don't have that streak to us.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
Yeah, yeah. And, you know, a lot of what you experience as a child, no matter what way you look at it, it molds you into the type of dad you are, right? And the type of parent you are going to become, spouse, writer, professional. Recently, about a year ago, you had the opportunity to speak at a commencement for University of Michigan, which is you're an alumnus of Michigan.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
But I want you to share with the audience what was really special about that day.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode. I am your host, Sean French, and before I introduce today's amazing guest, please go subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts, and let everybody know what you love about the show. Share it with somebody you know, love, and trust that needs to hear this message of kindness, empathy, and overall badassery.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
Well, I loved it. I mean, it was... You were funny. You were kind. You were empathetic. But the thing that was special about that class, and as you mentioned it, for those that haven't seen the speech or read the book, Making Magic It, that class was born around the time of 9-11. Then their freshman year in college, that was when the epidemic started, right? The pandemic, sorry.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
That turned into an epidemic. You know, like...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kindness Is Power and Rejection Built Me
So today, I have with me an American novelist, Brad Meltzer, who is, get this, 13 for 13 on the New York Times bestsellers list. Everything he touched,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
It's amazing. The fact that they're going there and getting a great football education from CFL players und dann du, ein NFL-Spieler, aber die akademische Seite davon und die Dinge, die sie voll machen, weit über den Sport. Weil ich denke, wo Leute verloren gehen, und ich weiß, dass das wahr ist, weil ich es gesehen habe, und es ist besonders verrückt im Fußball.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Eltern werden verdammt verloren, Bro. Sie verlieren ihre Kinder. Es muss so sein. Sie müssen 1.000 Spiele pro Jahr spielen. Meine Kinder müssen gesehen werden. Sie müssen rekrutiert werden. Aber sie lehren den Kindern nicht die anderen Sachen. Und der Fakt, dass deine Foundation auf die Grundlagen eines wunderschönen Menschen ist, Bildung, Nahrung. All that kind of stuff.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Like, dude, that's going to help them outside of the sport.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Also follow at the Sean French on Instagram, S-H-A-W-N, and at The Determined Society. So today, ladies and gentlemen, Ich habe mit mir jemanden, der vor vier Quartalen dieses Jahr im Superbowl gespielt hat. Er ist der startende defensive Back für die Washington Commanders. Mein Mann, Benjamin St. Jude. Was ist los, Alter? Was ist los, ich freue mich auf dich.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
It's fascinating, dude. It's fascinating. Because as a parent and then also as a coach, as a coach of baseball for many years, when you do a camp, you want those parents to see their kids light up when they come out of that camp. Like happy and fulfilled and armed with knowledge.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
And a lot of times it's just focused on the technical aspects of the sport, which is only a fraction of who they, it's not even who they are, it's what they do. Being a football player is not who you are. It's something that you do. Just like this is something I do. This is my profession. This is my job. It's not who I am. It's part of what makes me who I am.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
I think a lot of people get lost in that. Come on, man. I have. Have you ever had moments where you got lost in that?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
You're just Benjamin. That identity shift, right? I used to call it the identity crisis. I did a TED Talk on it. About my shift from being a collegiate baseball player at LSU, which is pretty much a professional baseball player. You get a lot of exposure there. And then, you know, the last house recorded, you're in, you know, 2003 in the College World Series in Omaha, Nebraska.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Like, wait a second. What now? Like, who am I? I went on this journey of just burning bridges, hurting people because I was this massive void inside of me, right? I was just in so much pain. But the things that I've noticed lately is, you know, you touched on mental health, right, for those kids.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Building the brand while you're in the actual peak part of your career, so that way you do have that pivot thereafter. I think it's so important.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Danke, dass du mich kennengelernt hast, Mann. Ich bin froh, dass du hier bist. Es ist so lustig, du weißt nie, wer von dir fünf Türen runter geht, richtig? Fünf Türen runter. Ich habe es später herausgefunden. Ehrlich gesagt, als ich dir vorher gesagt habe, als ich nur gesagt habe, hi, weil du in der Nähe warst, war ich so, hey, was geht, Mann?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Nein, der Lockerraum ist das Beste. Wir lernen viel über das Leben. In den Tränchen von Fußball oder Sport, Baseball, was auch immer der Sport ist. Aber zu deinem Punkt, wenn du fertig bist, wenn ich fertig war, war es so, als ich mein Resümee schrieb, 2003, College World Series, SEC-Champion. Du hast keine Erfahrung. Ja, du hast keine. Bro, was wolltest du von mir machen?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Ich konnte nicht arbeiten, weil es illegal war. Ich wurde verabschiedet, um in einem Baseballcamp für meinen Haupt-Baseball-Coach zu arbeiten. Du, ich wurde verabschiedet, weil ich 50 Dollar verdient habe. Es ist verrückt. Es ist verrückt, Ben. You have no experience. Like, wait a second. I just did all this. I just did all this. Like, you know, what I was supposed to do.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
And now I'm not valued in society. And I think, and I know that's where a lot of mental health issues do happen for collegiate athletes. But even, but more so like Major League Baseball players or NBA players or NFL players, because they've gone an extended amount of time outside of college. And that's what they did. And they were known on a national level or world global level.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
And now they're just... Someone who doesn't have experience.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Und ich versuche, mit dir zu sprechen, weil ich mit jedem spreche. Du wirst das sehen. Ich spreche mit meinen Häusern. Ich bin der Typ, der mit jedem spricht. Und dann sagt jemand, hey, hast du gewusst, dass er für die Kommandanten spielt? Ich bin so, ja. No way!
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Absolut. Athleten verstehen, dass Führung mehr eine Zusammenarbeit ist als ein Erzählen. Ja. Und ich denke, viele Leute, die keinen hohen Sport gespielt haben, denken, dass Führung das Managieren ist.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
1000%, 1000%, because it's like, you may consult with everybody, but at the end of the day, you might do what you're gonna do, but at least everybody feels heard, right? Everybody feels heard, and everybody collaborated in that final decision, it is what it is, right? The big thing, man, is why I think athletes are so... so erfolgreich, außer Sport, ist, weil wir den Spiel laufen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Wie du gesagt hast, 5 Uhr aufstehen, 6 Uhr aufstehen, meinen Körper füllen, meine Rückkehr machen. Ich schaue mich an meinen Tag, und ich weiß, dass ich um 4 Uhr aufstehe. Ich nehme meinen Kaffee, ich bin im Gym um 4.30 Uhr. Von 4.30 Uhr bis 4.50 Uhr, bin ich auf einem Abstand. Von 4.50 Uhr bis 5.45 Uhr, lege ich auf. Wenn ich nach Hause komme, schicke ich 6.15 Uhr. Ich habe alles,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Und meine Frau weiß das nicht, weil sie denkt, dass ich unorganisiert bin. Ich bin ziemlich unorganisiert mit einigen Dingen. Ich sage es dir jetzt, ich bin ein Messer in vielen Bereichen. Aber ich weiß von der Zeit, in der ich morgens aufwache, jeden einzelnen Zeitpunkt, was ich tue. Und dann weiß ich, dass ich um 6.40 Uhr auf der Straße bin, um die Kinder für die Schule bereit zu machen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Ich habe bereits ihr Frühstück gemacht, ihre Frühstücke gemacht, nachdem ich mich gerettet habe. Aber jetzt habe ich alles gemacht. Und ich werde ihnen helfen, aus der Tür zu kommen. Und dann beginnt mein Tag.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Und ja, als Athleten werden wir gelernt, es zu verdrängen, richtig? Und Athleten gehen durch eine massive Anzahl von Schwierigkeiten. Ich denke, jetzt ist es ein guter Kind von Segway hin zu, okay, du weißt, Kanada zu Michigan, spielte für Harbaugh, spielte dein früheres Jahr, viele Schnaps, viele Schnaps, richtig? Ja. Und dann gab es da ein bisschen Schwierigkeit, richtig?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Gehen alle durch dein früheres Jahr, dann ein bisschen Schwierigkeit und dann transferieren zu Minnesota, dann letztendlich dritter Rundspiel, Mann. Was war diese Reise wie?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Dude, Rudy's great.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Yeah, you're doing great.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Rudi ist großartig, er ist hysterisch. Aber du, die Nachbarschaft, es ist lustig, weil deine Frau einen guten Job macht. Sie macht einen guten Job in der Nachbarschaft, stoppt und spricht. Congratulations, baby girl.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Das, was ich am liebsten von der Geschichte liebe, ist nicht, dass du in Minnesota ein gutes Jahr in 2019 hattest und als Dritter-Rounder eingeladen wurdest. Mein Lieblingspunkt der Geschichte ist, wie du dich mit diesem Herz beschäftigt hast. Wie hast du dich mit dem Bullshit befasst?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
19, das ist passiert, 19 Jahre alt, richtig? Das ist es, was ich wollen, dass sie entdecken, weil es jetzt Adoleszen sind, die in ihrem Scheiß sitzen. Drowning in it, right? And I've been there before. And I'm not for you watching, I'm pointing at you and you listening. I want you to take this into your ear holes. I'm not calling you out.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
But what I'm saying is where you're at right now is not necessarily need to be where you're going to end up. And we all have a choice, right? We have a choice every day to choose either forge forward and go after our dream or sit in the shit and ruin our life.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Ja, Herr. Also, in diesem Moment. Du bekommst den Anruf von... Von Ron Rivera. Ja, Ron Rivera. Dieser Mann hat einiges verpasst, Alter. Er ist ein Geist, Alter. Aber du bekommst den Anruf. Wie war es in diesem Moment, wenn du mit deiner Mutter und deinem Vater verabschiedet bist?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Das war alles, was mir in den Kopf ging. Das ist ein erstaunlicher Moment, oder? Es war. Weil ich hatte diesen Moment am anderen Ende. Ich saß da im Jahr 1999, also das war die 1999-Saison. Also das Jahr 2000, das Jahr, in dem LSU Stanford in der College World Series gewonnen hat. Und ich hatte, du weißt, professionelle Organisationen, du weißt, taggen mich als den Nr. 1 Catching Prospekt.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Das ist Catcher. Und mein Trainer sagt mir so, hey, du kannst überall gehen, wo du willst, in der Schule. Ich bin so, naja, wo sind die Offers? Du weißt, und dann war es so, naja, du wirst wahrscheinlich am 1. Tag im Draft gehen. I fell off the board completely. Dude, Ben, I'm not joking. This was back when AOL had, it was dial-up internet. That's how old I am. He's like, dang, you old, bro?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
And then I noticed, and this is where I noticed I was different. I called my catching coach, Matt Brown. I lost touch with Matt Brown. I don't talk to him anymore. I don't know where he's at. Hell, if he listens to this, please reach out, because I would love to talk to this guy. Because he changed everything for me. He always believed in me. He always believed in me.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
I was like,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Ich werde etwas von dir hier machen. Glaubst du, ich könnte in der LSU spielen? Er sagt, ohne Zweifel. Ich sage, okay. Er sagt, warum fragst du? Ich war wie, naja, der Draft ist vorbei. Ich habe keinen Platz, um zu spielen. Meine Karriere ist vorbei. Er ist wie, das sollte nicht passieren, Sean. Wir haben dich irgendwo verfehlt. Du solltest eine College Scholarship signen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Jetzt sage ich, naja, ich schalte einige runter. Ich sage, ich habe nur bemerkt, dass beide ihrer Catchers gedraftet wurden. Ich sagte, hast du einen? Er sagte, ich habe einen. Ich habe einen da drüben, ich werde ihn anrufen. Ich habe ihn angerufen. Zwei Tage später haben sie mich angerufen. Und ich habe mich ziemlich für Bücher und einen Lollipop eingeladen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Weil ich keine Leistung hatte, richtig? Ja. Aber der Punkt ist, das ist, als ich bemerkte, ich werde immer die Lösung suchen. Immer. Ich werde vielleicht schmerzen. Ich werde vielleicht im Moment depressiv sein. Ich habe die drei Tage emotional verletzt. Aber ich werde mich nicht definieren lassen. Das war eine schwierige Zeit, Alter. Ja, es war. Wie alt warst du, wenn das passiert ist?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Also, ich hatte eine Blutstärke in meinem jüngeren Jahr. Also, das war mein drittjähriges Jahr. Also, ich war so 21, Alter. Also, ich habe einen späten Oktober-Tag, richtig?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Julia, richtig? Ja, Julia. Julia. Okay, ja. Ich höre dich, Mann. Es ist schwer, weil unsere Kinder ihre Eltern nicht wählen. Sie wählen nicht, wer wir sind und was wir tun. Es ist schwer. Wie hast du das während der Saison umgebracht? Ich würde mir vorstellen, dass es für dich emotional schwer war. Okay. Meine Tochter ist brandneu und ich bin hier.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Für viele Leute, Bro. Und Bro, nach dem 20, nach dem 19, 1998-Saison, mein erstes Jahr in der Schule, bin ich in großartiger Form geworden. Ich wurde lecker. Ich war nicht mehr fettig. Und dann habe ich eine Blutstärke bekommen. Eine Blutstärke. Und alle Offers sind aus dem Tisch gegangen. Und dann komme ich zurück. Also, ich verliere ein ganzes Jahr. Und dann bekomme ich noch ein Jahr.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Also, ich habe 426 gespielt. Ich habe es zerstört. Und dann kein Draft. Und dann LSU für nichts. Und dann, als ich da war, wurde ich verletzt. Ich hatte eine Surgery, also ich bin immer noch an diesem Punkt kämpft, um über Wasser zu bleiben. Und ich denke einfach, dass diese Momente sind, was uns in stressgefüllten Situationen macht, die ich jetzt durchführe.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Ich bin nicht davon ausgegangen, warum ich da bin, aber ich bin davon ausgegangen, was ich jetzt mache.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Ich glaube, das ist der Buy-in, Bro. Der Buy-in? Der Buy-in, das ist der Anti-Buy-in. Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Das war wild, Bro.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Das ist einfach nur der Anfang für deine Organisation. Das ist ein Teil davon.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Ich versuche, irgendwo zu kommen, wo wir in den letzten 31 Jahren noch nicht gewesen sind. Aber du hast auch deinen kleinen Herzschlag, der außerhalb deines Körpers schläft, zu Hause zu schlafen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Das ist hervorragend. Aber das ist es, was dich macht, richtig? Du kannst das tun. Ich denke, das ist etwas, was jeder Athlet, jeder Entrepreneur, jeder Mutter, jeder Vater, egal, was du tun könntest, was du besser tun könntest.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
I love it, man. I love it. That's a great perspective. And no doubt you guys will be back. You'll be on top of your game next year because now you're getting to that next version of Ben, right? To where you get the opportunity to really self-evaluate and just like, okay, what was it? And when you're least expecting it, you'll find out. Das war es.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Und dann weißt du, du attackierst diesen Moment da und diese spezielle Sache. Und dann nächstes Jahr hast du das Jahr, das du haben willst. Und nächstes Jahr das gleiche. Und dann siehst du zurück, acht Jahre später und denkst dir, verdammt. Hey, das war eine 12-Jahre-Karriere, Mann. Die Rückseite, die acht Jahre, Mann, ich war der Typ. Ich war der Typ. Das ist das Ziel.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Das ist das, wofür wir sind. Ja, du wirst es bekommen. Du wirst es bekommen, Mann. Bevor wir aufs Flugzeug fahren, du siehst frisch aus, Bruder. Erzähl mir das, Bruder. Die Original. Das ist deine Kleidungsbranche, oder? Ja, das ist die Branche da. Ich weiß, wo du lebst, also weiß ich, wo du herkommst. Ich habe ein paar. Ja, ich liebe das, Mann. Erzähl mir das Hintergrund der Branche und alles.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Ich sage dir, Mann, ich kann auf den Gramm gehen und auf dich und deine Frau schauen. Sie sind immer fit. Sie sehen immer gut aus. Ich bin wie, verdammt, schau dir diese Jungs an. Schau dir diese Jungs an. Ich habe eigentlich ein Shirt für dich. Es ist nicht hier. Ich bringe es dir nach Hause. Wir haben jetzt auch Merch. Ich möchte dir eines unserer Shirts anbieten. Unser Link ist heute auch live.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Wir machen es nicht so, wie du es machst, aber es ist etwas anderes. Ich liebe deine Mission. Ich liebe, worum du bist. Und ich habe heute viel über dich gelernt, Mann. Du bist ein deep-ass-Dude. Ich respektiere das Scheiß aus ihm. Begrüße es. Gleichfalls, Mann. Danke, Bruder.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Wir werden es machen, Mann. Das coole an dem Spiel war für mich, dass ich die Möglichkeit hatte, jemanden etwas tiefer zu kennen. Denn wir sind fünf Jahre von einander entfernt, Mann. Es ist immer ein Verlangen. Jetzt sind unsere Konversationen und unsere Freundschaften viel anders. Vielen Dank. Thank you so much. Go ahead and follow Ben.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
We're going to drop all his links here, even to his website for his clothing brand. If you feel compelled, go check it out. Buy something nice for yourself or your family. And until next time, guys, stay determined.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
You know, it's interesting because I had a conversation with my wife last night, right? And the show has gotten to a point where we're getting the opportunity to do cooler things. Like we're getting to go places. Excuse me. And that's going to, that's going to take time away from me being home. And the direct response was, is it going to be like this every month?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Because, you know, your son has, our son has baseball. The girls have gymnastics. And I'm like, Und ich denke mir, oh mein Gott, ist das wirklich so, wie wir es jetzt machen? Wir haben vier Jahre lang diese Plattform gebaut. Jetzt explodiert sie. Wir müssen das kapitalisieren, oder es war für nichts. Aber gleichzeitig verstehe ich es, Mann. Ich verstehe es.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Und unsere Wife sieht uns komplett anders. Deine Wife sieht dich als Fußballspieler nicht, Alter.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Ich werde nicht da sein. Ich liebe es. Das ist wie das Thema, richtig? Jeder spricht von Balance als Entrepreneur und du bist auch ein Entrepreneur. Wir werden dazu kommen. Aber sie sprechen von Balance, richtig? Du kannst alles in deinem Leben nicht balancieren. Es ist, es ist wirklich unmöglich.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Und ich sage immer, es geht darum, wenn du diese Zeit hast, bist du vollständig und du hast das erreicht. Wie sind einige der, und ich werde von dir lernen, gerade jetzt, weil ich eine schwierige Zeit habe, aufzuhalten. Ja, wie mein Dude, es ist schwer. Wie hast du es geschafft, zu sagen, okay. I'm going to leave my phone over here when it's time to be with the baby and the wife.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
I'm going to go on a walk and not bring my phone. How do you deal with that?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Du hast jeden Faktor des Shows getroffen. in einer Teilnahme der Gespräche. Aber das ist die Sache, richtig? Also, selbst mit deinem Job, Fußball, deiner Beziehung, Zeit mit deinem Kind, die Läufe, alles. Es ist so, dass alles in der Leben auf die Disziplin und Zertifizierung hinweist, richtig? Wie diszipliniert bist du in diesen Momenten, in denen du den emotionalen Motivationsbereich nicht hast?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Und, Alter, ich bin motiviert, vielleicht sage ich Leuten das, und ich weiß nicht, es kann mehr sein. Ich bin motiviert, vielleicht drei bis vier Tage im Monat. Ich will nicht ab 4 Uhr morgens auf die Gym gehen. Aber ich mache es, weil ich gesagt habe, ich würde. Ich versuche hier etwas zu bauen und es gibt Disziplinen jeden Tag.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Und ich weiß, wenn ich all diese kleinen Dinge tue, werde ich in diese Person wachsen, die das verdient. 100 Prozent. Weißt du, das ist für mich alles.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
You're a deep-ass dude. Like, I respect the shit out of it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Und dann denke ich, was die Leute lernen, was ich gelernt habe, und ich bin sicher, dass du das beurteilen kannst, ist, dass Du bildest dich in jemanden, der, wenn das eine nicht funktioniert, bereit ist, das nächste zu machen. Weil das Leben wird Dinge an dich werfen. Du wirst Scheiß-Sandwiches essen. Es wird, es wird Zeiten geben, wo du denkst, was ist los?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Aber solange wir konsistent bleiben in diesen Momenten, in denen die Leute nicht sehen, wenn wir die Arbeit machen und es ist leise. Das ist das, was die nächste Version von dir bauen wird. 1000%. So, real quick, so you grew up in Canada, Montreal, Canada. And, you know, I think, did you play hockey, too?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
How many kids from Canada make it to the league?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
How does that feel for you? Because I mean, it's great to be in the NFL. Du stellst den Beispiel für Kinder in deinem Land, was möglich ist.
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How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Wir werden diese Bereiche rekrutieren. Das ist interessant. Das ist lustig, aber ich verstehe es. Ich verstehe es völlig. Du hast etwas gesagt, das ich sehr interessant fand. Du hast dir gesagt, du hast dir versprochen, dass wenn du es der Liga gemacht hättest, du es zurückgeben würdest. Nun, du führst den größten amerikanischen Fußballklinik in Kanada.
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How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
Und es wird hier in den USA sehr selten gesprochen. Kannst du den Publikum überlegen, wie du zurückgeben kannst zu den Jugendlichen und was es für dich und die Gemeinschaft bedeutet?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Ben St. Juste Beat the Odds to Succeed in the NFL
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French. Before I introduce today's amazing guest, and it's going to be a great one, you're going to love him, please, if you haven't already subscribed to the YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts, please click that follow button and let us know what you think.
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Exposing the Dark Side of Military Service: From Homeless to Hero with Janae Sergio
That's amazing.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Exposing the Dark Side of Military Service: From Homeless to Hero with Janae Sergio
I love that shit. Yeah. That's fantastic. And you're saying, to go back real quick, though, President Biden's the one that signed that. He did. Well, there's something good.
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Exposing the Dark Side of Military Service: From Homeless to Hero with Janae Sergio
The one.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Exposing the Dark Side of Military Service: From Homeless to Hero with Janae Sergio
She's a best-selling author and a philanthropist, and welcome to the show, Janae.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Exposing the Dark Side of Military Service: From Homeless to Hero with Janae Sergio
Give him his one thing.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Exposing the Dark Side of Military Service: From Homeless to Hero with Janae Sergio
You've got the one, dude. It's so funny. I never leave a bad comment on any type of social media, except when I see Biden's name on Twitter or X, whatever the hell it's called now. And Obama said something today or yesterday, tweeted that Joe's presidency was amazing and everything. I said, my response was, huh, what? Like, what are we talking about here?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Exposing the Dark Side of Military Service: From Homeless to Hero with Janae Sergio
You know, and I'm not a, and everybody will admit, I'm not a big political guy. You know, this is the most like, you know, that realm I've talked about on my show, but I'm excited about it. Right. Because it's not like, are you a Trumper or are you a leftist? Right. Like it's not that. And I just truly feel that what we really need to do is come together as America. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Exposing the Dark Side of Military Service: From Homeless to Hero with Janae Sergio
I'm excited you're here. It's like, I feel like I know you already, right? Because it's like, that's the power of social media, right? You get connected through people that you already know, love and trust. And it's like, when you meet somebody else and you're brought into the circle, it's like, okay, I already know that person.
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It's not about the party, but it's about the mission of of our country. And are we doing things for our people?
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Right. Our people. Now, I'm not saying that we don't need to help out. But I'm saying like, hey, we're hurting right now. America's hurting a little bit. And I know it probably started way before that. And, you know, the match was, you know, the pilot light was already lit, but COVID exploded it.
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You know, to where, you know, there's family members that don't consider themselves family members anymore. There's friends that don't speak to each other anymore because one's a Republican and one's a Democrat. How fucking dumb is that?
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They don't. They don't. They don't hate each other. So if you look at the WWE and the WWF, completely unrelated, but it's a soap opera. Well, what do you think this is? What do you think this is? You know, a lot of it could be staged. Like, we don't know what's going on. But my favorite is always when Trump was debating with Biden, he's like, yeah, I just don't know what he said.
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And I really don't think he does either.
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That was a really good one. Funny story. Have you seen the new Jamie Foxx special?
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Okay, on Netflix, do it. He does the best Trump impersonation. He does a better Trump than Trump. It's incredible. It's fucking hysterical. Your work, your activism, right? What you're doing, your mission is very brave, right? And, you know, we can go, I want to go into, you know, you being one of the first people deployed after 9-11, right? But first, it's like, you're not just a single one.
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You have kids, right? You married? Daughters. Recently divorced. Okay, so, but you have a family. I do. And like, you are putting yourself at risk. for the betterment of the country. So you're out of the military. You're no longer putting your life, you know, on the line there, but you still are. That's a real soldier.
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Right. So, I mean, it's pretty cool, but you just flew in. Yes. You had a nice flight.
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Yeah. Yeah. You look happy. You don't look like it was too bad.
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It's like the opposite, right?
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Did you? You can sleep on a plane?
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What do you think fuels all this?
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That's crazy, Janae.
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No man wants to say that Jimmy sexually assaulted me.
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Yeah, it's a different trauma. Like we I mean, that's just like, you know, people can be traumatized from losing a grandparent or a parent. But the sexual trauma, you know, sexual assault trauma is different. Same with hazing. It's like it's all a different type of shit. All three of them suck.
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You know, very much so. Right. But the fact of the matter is, you know, and again, I don't want to I don't. probably shouldn't say this, but I would say like getting over a grandparent passing or a parent passing and, or even, you know, being hazed depending on the level of the hazing.
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I don't want to be insensitive to that, but like those two things there, I think in my mind are more conceivably like easier to work through, through therapy. But when you're sexually assaulted and you're not even that, that root problem, that root thing is not being, you know, helped through, you know, medical attention. Like that, that's how people kill themselves.
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So let's, let's go there like that.
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Thank you. Yeah. I mean, now I'm not saying like hazing in school and bullying doesn't get kids to kill people. I, I don't, you guys know what I'm saying, right? Like I'm not here to make any definitive statement, but it's just like, I'm looking at him like, If it's sexual trauma, sexual assault trauma, you can't treat it like hazing.
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Just as long as he tags you. Exactly. Like, send a collab, dude. Maybe here, send a collab, so that way she gets all the analytics.
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41 different. I saw you speaking on something maybe if right after the election. Yes. What was that?
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And all the people that want to learn her sleeping journey. And she's a mouth breather.
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And there was and you were catching heat about something. And I think you were rebuttaling it. I watched it. I don't remember the details. But because I mean, it was like three, four weeks ago, right?
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So he would still have a life.
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And these were all men.
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God almighty. This is funny because I said, oh, you can sleep on a plane. I can't. I have to have, my nerves ride me when I'm traveling. Now, recently, over the last couple of years, they've gotten much, much better. I had this job that I had to travel for. I had to go to Portugal. I was white knuckling it the whole way. I was like, this plane goes down, we're in the water here.
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I think most people, I mean, I think probably everybody that's asking that question doesn't know shit about the military. Exactly. Or the ranking system, right? It's just, it's just wild to me, man. So if you were to go in, right, and like one of those men, if they fought back and said no, could they be sent to the brig for that or...
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But none of it came up when they were getting screened.
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Yeah. And you're giving them the voice, right? You're fighting for them. Like you're putting a name to the trauma. You're putting a name to the story. You are fascinating. I'm so grateful you're here right now. You know, when you do these, you're like always looking forward to the conversation. But this is, I mean, I don't know if you realize, but like almost 45 minutes has just flown by. Yeah.
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It's amazing. Like this is great conversation. And I think I know my audience is really going to love this. So what can we expect from you this weekend?
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It's going to be like, there's going to be a serious rescue mission going on, right? But I just think of all the bad shit. And over the last couple of years, like now, like it used to affect me going through TSA. Like I swear my wife probably hated traveling with me because every time I say something like, oh, why don't you just be nice about it?
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Okay. Okay. See, I thought that I had, so it's funny, like not to interrupt, but like, I, I thought I read that or learn that on your page, but then I got it mixed up. Cause the same day I listened to my buddy's podcast and, and he had a woman on there that was also silent. So I'm like, so I told my team, I'm like, wait, no, no, no, maybe I got this all fucked up.
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Hopefully it comes out naturally and it did. So perfect.
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Like, I'm just like, I'm not happy about getting on this plane, but now it's like, it's cool.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Hey, turn this shit around. You guys are going the wrong way. And you're like, oh, my God, is this thing hijacked? Like, what the fuck? So you're sitting there and you're looking for the air marshal.
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I just know. Yeah, the engine's blown out. We're so screwed. Why is this bird flying this high? Yeah. Crazy. You want to know something that's happened to me recently? I'm not going to say his name because I don't want to get in trouble. But but like I where was I? Oh, I was coming back from where when I met Michael and Tim in Traverse, Michigan, when we were hanging out with Eric Thomas.
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So I'm way back. I hop on a flight. All right. It was my connecting flight. No, it was my first flight. I'll get this right. I promise you I will. Sorry, guys. Hang with me. You know I'm not very smart. So I get on the plane in Traverse, and my connecting flight was Charlotte. And, like, I'm sorry. Like, every time you connect at night in Charlotte, you are fucked.
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Like, so, but I roll up to my seat and it's like right against like the front part and it's like where the bathroom is. And like, so I couldn't do this, but there was this gentleman sitting there on the end and, you know, he gets up, you know, and he's got a, you know, like a sweatshirt on, got some slick back hair, a cool little goatee. I'm like, this is a fucking badass. I like this guy.
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But he got out, was super kind. And, you know, we didn't have anybody in the middle of us and we were able to have this amazing conversation, just getting to know each other. I'm thinking...
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this motherfucker's an air marshal like straight out and I said to him I looked at him I go you take the first shift I'll take the second shift and he goes you're gonna why are you why are you quoting bridesmaids I'm like you know why I'm quoting bridesmaids he goes he goes dude I'm I get I'm he goes I'm not I go he goes no I go Okay. Sure. Sure, buddy. I know how this goes.
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So we just start having great conversation. Um, you know, he asked me what I do and I told him about all this and he's like, Whoa, this is fascinating. Can you show me your page? So I showed him my Instagram. He goes, can I follow it? I'm like, absolutely. And, and he goes, Hey, do you mind? I go, dude, I'm gonna follow you back. Don't worry.
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As I followed him back and we started like having this friendly conversation, talk about our families. I'm like, so man, what do you do? And I just, I just, he's like, well, you know, I'm in, I'm in department of defense. I'm like, no shit. You are. I'm like, of course you are. And he starts laughing. He's like, no, that's not what I do.
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But I do gun trainings for organizations and things like that. Just I'm like, so you're the Department of Defense and you do gun trainings for like corporations, but you're not an air marshal.
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He goes, correct. I'm like, cool, man. And we just had this great conversation. And before we get off the plane, he gives me his card. He's like, hey, just... Give me a call sometime, man. You got my cell number in your phone already, but here are my other numbers. If you ever have any questions, give me a call. He's like, it's a little bit more involved than what I told you.
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And I didn't even think to look at it yet. I'm like, all right, man, I'll be in touch because I was late for my next flight because we sat on the tarmac for an hour and a half. So long story short, I get back to the hotel room that was conned because Americans screwed it up. They have enough people working so we can get off the plane. I look at the car. Senior Air Marshal. I texted him.
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I'm like, you motherfucker. I knew it. He's like, oh, yeah, you're a regular FBI agent. To this day, me and this gentleman speak every day via text. Absolutely adore him and his family. And yeah, so.
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And so I said like, hey, dude, did you know that I knew? He's like, yeah, I knew that you knew. He's like, but I can't tell you. Like, I can't tell you.
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Right. And I said, how many, like, how many times have I been on a flight with an air marshal? And he goes, probably won't, probably never. Because it's very rare that you're actually on a flight.
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Right? The percentages, right? All the flights in the world and all the people taking them, you know? But he texts me, picture everywhere he goes. Everywhere he goes, like, oh, I'm in Germany. And the next day he's in Maui. I'm like, what the heck's going on? But that's not what the show's about, right? Still sounds like- Shout out to my guy. It's pretty cool.
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Well, listen, when I make it big, he's gonna be my security. There you go. I already told him that. He's like, I'm hiring you. I'm hiring you. He's like, you can't do that thing. Oh, well, you know, I don't need bodyguard yet. You might. I know you do. Every once in a while. We'll get to that.
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Oh, shit. I don't know. Oh, yeah.
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You might be on the hit list here.
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Yeah. Yeah. Maybe like a disguise or something.
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Yeah, I know.
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Yeah, exactly. shit. Remind me not to stand next to you at all tomorrow. So listen, okay.
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So we're already on it, right? Let's hit it. So you talk about the work you do. What's the audience, the type of work that you're talking about that is leading to this conversation?
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I mean, she's not a toddler.
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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French. And if this is the first time you are listening to the show, please hit subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts. Follow the journey along.
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Wow. Yeah. I mean, like, honestly, like. That's just sad. It's really, it's really sad. And like, you know, as a civilian, I've never been, you know, a service member, but you know, when, as a civilian, you look at the United States military and you look at the overall mission is to serve and protect.
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Right. And it's just unfortunate. I'm like thinking like this whole time, I'm like, you know, I've got two beautiful daughters. I got a son also, right? 11 year old son, eight year old daughter, six year old daughter. And it's like, wow. So you mean to tell me that the service may not even be a safe place for them.
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Start at episode number one and just listen to the growth because we've made some crazy, crazy leaps and bounds, quantum leaps in the show over the last four years. So super happy. Today, I have an amazing guest to share with you. Her name is Janae Sergio. She's a bestselling author, former service woman, doing amazing things in the community to bring a lot of light to certain subjects.
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That's wild shit, man. That's wild. It's scary.
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Kanye, the Super Bowl thing was an absolute shit show. What the fuck's this guy's deal? Wife wears a naked dress and then there's talks of a separation now?
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Dude, so what do you think is going on, right? Because we have reports stating that they are not moving forward. There are rumors. We're staying together. We're looking to work it out. Yes, what does that look like, though? I mean, you're a family law attorney. You've seen this many times play out, right? Where does this go from here? Where do you think it goes? Yeah.
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I'm super excited. We had a good conversation over the weekend before we recorded. We had a fun kind of off-the-air conversation prior. So the juices are flowing here. We've got the creative juices going right now.
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Great points, right? We don't know. Like we, we don't live there. It's not for us to judge. We can only assume and kind of put the storyline together and it's, you know, it's entertainment, right? As well. But how, here's my thought. What if it was just a fucking stunt?
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What if it was staged?
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
I'll never understand it.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Wouldn't it bring more light to it? Like, here he goes again.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
I need a good one, but neither was a Superbowl link.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Let's do this. Well, first, let's talk to the tell the audience a little bit that may not know who you are. Give them a little rundown of your background, you know, where you're from, what you're doing and all that kind of good stuff.
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Yeah. You know, one t-shirt.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Like, yeah, let's, let's get real. That's, you know, also to shame on, I'm sorry. Shame on the TV, right? Shame on the Superbowl. Like, how do you not proofread or look at what that link's going to pull up when you, when you put it on the TV?
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I wonder how many streams. Kanye West on Spotify or Apple Music or any Pandora, any type of platform has taken place since the Super Bowl and since this has gone out.
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Yeah.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
I mean, I don't know. Okay. So let's, let's spill the tea here. So two months before that trial, the Diddy trial. Yeah.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Shit, man, that's my late grandma's birthday. Can they come up with a different date? Shit.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
I'm very interested in this, obviously, because it's... I mean, you see the... You hear people talking, you know, and there was people on social media for years warning everybody about this, right? How this was all going to all come out. And then, you know, then it did. And then there's all of a sudden these videos of Diddy literally beating the shit out of his girlfriend. Was it Ciara? Ciara?
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Yeah. On film. On film. And it's just like... damn and there's documentaries out already everything came so quickly with this with with p diddy um and and just everything like all the platforms like hulu and max like they have all these different the the fall of p diddy like it's it's a lot to take in yeah
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
No, I agree. I mean... Listen, you and I were talking before we hit record, going back all the way to the OJ trial. You were in law school. I was younger, too. I remember it. I remember the day. I was going to a baseball game that I was playing at, and these reports came out that OJ allegedly killed his ex-wife and her friend. And I'm like, there's no way. This is wild.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
I remember I was going to Brentwood, California to play a summer baseball game. And this, this thing exploded and you couldn't help but be in front of the TV and watching it like to see a popular, a public figure like that. Be reduced to the most simplest. You are just a normal human being.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
You've never got a Bronco, did you?
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
See, look at that. I love that. I love that for you. You got rid of it?
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
It was too big for me. It was too big for me. So I know how someone like myself would view these trials, the P. Diddy thing. I mean, for me, I'm just going to be honest. Entertainment.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Yeah, but then also like, yo, dude, if this is all true, I hope you fucking pay for it. Like I, I, you know, I don't want this, you know, if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit type bullshit. I mean, we talked about that too, you know, like, no, if you did all this, man, and you're guilty, you need to pay for it, man.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Cause there's all these people's lives that have been impacted over the years that don't have regular relationships with men that don't have regular relationships with people or even careers because they've been impacted by this trauma, right? And in all the while, how much of empowerment does that take away from a woman to deal with that? Or the men. I mean, there are more victims.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
I mean, how about the video servicing of Justin Bieber in the club? Like the insinuation of what he allegedly was made to do in a club.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
As a child.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
It's like, okay, so then it begs the question of like, okay, so this guy really does have this much pull in that industry that he can say yes or no on an individual as an artist to whether they are going to blow up and have a great career or not.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
You're selling a different product to a different subset, which is the jury, right? Yeah.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Okay. Here's the thing, though. Here's the thing. The reality is all those things are obviously true, right? Upholding the Constitution, that's your fiduciary responsibility. But you guys are also human, right? And so it's like when I look at this, I admire you guys. I admire attorneys, even in family law.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
There's going to come a day where a family law attorney is representing a male or female that they know is in the wrong and they have to give them their best day in court. And it could conflict with their moral or core beliefs, right? Like, yeah, this person potentially could be bad.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
So I just admire you guys for being able to, I guess, filter that information and be like, okay, you know, the defense attorney for OJ, right? The defense attorney for P. Diddy, right? And all those kinds of things, like to be able to flush that and do the job right
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
And trying to prove, right, or not prove innocence, but, you know, bring down the, you know, guilty by any stretch of the imagination, right, beyond a reasonable doubt. Like, to me, that is, that's intense.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
There's so much to unpack there. And the thing that I can say what I enjoyed mostly was just hearing the real time, not the real time, but the real life. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Thank you.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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There you go. Some good influences in your life. I'm actually going to be I'm going to be in Houston the end of this month.
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Thank you.
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I would love that. I would love that. It's for a wedding, though. So I can't bolt, you know, got to be there.
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Or a steak and a drink, done.
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Absolutely. We could talk about that for sure. For sure. But no, family law is crazy. There's a lot of different things that can go on in family law, right? And I think the big thing that always ties in if there's kids involved, property, assets. But dude, there's some interesting things going on right now in the news media.
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I agree.
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No, we haven't. And that's why America spoke what they spoke, right? And it's really sad. And it's almost victim mentality to hear, like, we're just not ready for a woman president. That's not true.
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It's not true at all. I think America is ready and willing and wanting that. Wanting that. But I also think...
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
They'd have a dope ass house for a little while, though.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
That shit would be wild. I don't even think that doesn't even sound appealing to me whatsoever.
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Well, I mean, I'm from Cali.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
You keep the death threats. You keep all the bullshit. You know, I'm going to live a normal life.
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The impact on the family is just so tremendous. You know, it's just too much, but we'll look here. This was amazing. We talked some good stuff, man. We talked some really good stuff.
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We didn't. We did. You will have to have you back, but I want it to be in person.
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Or when I come to Texas, we'll figure something out.
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We'll figure something out. Hey, you know what we'll do? You know what we'll do? You know what we'll do? What? We'll get Valerie on it.
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We're in Naples, but Miami is like down the road. So if you're in Miami, we'll get it worked out. That's easy.
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I would love that. That'd be fun. That'd be a lot of fun. We'll do it again for sure. We'll do it again in person for certain, but, but no, thank you so much. You know, I had a, we've never talked about the certain topics. So my audience is like, what's going on? Cause I, you know, I'm, I'm broadening my topics and in, in my range here, what we're talking about on the show is,
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No. That could be bad. That could be bad. Un's bad.
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And, you know, these types of things is what's in the news cycle. People are talking about it and wanting to know about it. So thank you for for stretching me today, because like for real, that's it was different than anything we've ever done. And it was fun.
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So where can my audience check you out? You do speaking engagements. Do you have your you have two books like talk? I mean, let's let's direct everybody.
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Okay. Awesome. So, Kanye. I mean, there's been a lot of stuff going on with him, right? The Super Bowl thing was an absolute shit show.
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I love it. Michelle, thank you so much. I look forward to continuing the relationship and the new friendship, and it won't be the last that we have conversations. I can tell you that. I dig it. You're amazing, and there's a lot we could do together.
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Now, for the audience that had just listened or watched this show, I want you to share the episode with somebody that you know, love, and trust that needs to hear this or that is interested in some of the topics that we spoke about.
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Or if you're in Texas, and shamelessly, if you're going through something that you need some family law advice, do not hesitate to look her up and schedule a consultation. So with that being said, guys, thank you so, so much for tuning in. Once again, your viewership and your loyalty is always appreciated. Until next time, stay determined.
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Sarah French, what up?
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What the fuck's this guy's deal?
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I feel like that's happened like five times. I feel like that's happened to him five times.
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It's constant. It was Taylor Swift, right? I mean, that was a long time ago. Now we have this. So the most recent one is what? Wife wears a naked dress and then there's talks of a separation now?
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Yeah.
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Who told you about the washboard abs?
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I don't think so. I know what you're talking about.
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What it sounds like from what you're saying, you know, obviously the quote of, I have complete dominion over my wife, that's an abusive statement, right? Yeah. That means you feel you own her, right? Is that what that really means? Right. And then also the whispering in the ear, do this now. Do this now. Right. It's kind of how I'm interpreting it.
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And to me, it's just like, what do you think is really going on when you say silencing her? Like, I don't understand this. Right. There's another topic we'll get to in a little bit that that has been, you know, talk widely talked about by silencing. Right. It's like, I guess I just don't understand that world. Right. It's like, what does that actually mean and how can it actually happen?
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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French. I have an amazing guest today, but first, please hit the button to follow the show on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. I have an amazing Texas attorney today, one of the top attorneys in the state of Texas. She's amazing. She's dynamic.
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Now, so when you were talking about Kim Kardashian, were you hinting around the fact that there was moments where Kim was also controlled or potentially controlled by Kanye West?
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So there's a massive difference between Bianca and Kim Kardashian, right? To your point, right? You know, just from like a family standpoint, Kim's unit, everybody's together. I'm not saying Bianca's is not. I don't know about her family. I don't know.
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kim kim has fuck you money like you can't control her right the family has fuck you money correct like you're not gonna you're not gonna get the same result she's gonna be like yeah okay dude try it like yeah go ahead i think more people like me than they like you dude right yeah um but for this girl it's concerning right because well she may not have that financial stability like a kardashian has i
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She has a hell of a resume, and we're so blessed to have her today. Michelle O'Neill, welcome to the show.
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People are saying if you walk around Publix or grocery store with a pineapple where the kid sits, it means you're a swinger.
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that that's, that's something that I want the listeners to really pay attention to and to write down and to reflect upon because there's so many times in our lives that we want to do something and we think, okay, I'll practice for a little bit, but then I just got to go when the reality is like, you really need to perfect something.
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You need to really do the work behind the scenes consistently before you can even go be successful at anything. I just think it's a very good lesson. If you know, the Paul brothers are doing it, then, you know, Johnny and Nebraska can,
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And you have to eat for the girlfriend that you didn't bring, too. Exactly.
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You know, I mean, you guys gave us, you guys gave him a scare though.
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That would have been a cool, that would have been a cool event to go to, man. That would have been, that would have been so cool.
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At least one hit.
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You're saying your junk is way too big?
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You have to be like this? See, this is like, I don't know, man. Like this is fine for me, you know?
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They move back to like a grandpa rocking chair. You see this? This is nice. This is nice. Dude. Talk to me about Gronk Fitness, man. You guys are a big distributor. I think the biggest distributor for you guys, outfit gyms and specialty boutiques and things like that. Talk to us about that.
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Exactly.
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Dude, there's beautiful things about everybody. Exactly. Right? Yeah. It's amazing. It's funny. Yeah, dude. No, it's nice to have you on, man.
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You guys make your own equipment too.
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You're applying habits. You're helping them learn.
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Bro, okay, so Ryan Sherry.
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Well, you guys, if your employees are doing that much work and they're that big of a piece, it means you guys have built a great culture and they feel like it's a home for them, right? Not just a job. How have you guys gone about building that culture to where these employees feel special enough to execute the work that they need to for you guys?
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You want to talk about Sherry Berry?
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That was shocking.
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They weren't going to bring him back to the field.
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Oh, the six dudes.
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Dude, that's a bloodline, bro.
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Oh, really?
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People always look at actions, man. You know, you can say one thing and you can say it till you're blue in the face. But until that moment where you start acting on these things is when people start to really realize, okay, that dude's it or she's it. But also what it does internally is gives you that confidence, right? That you are it, right?
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If you just sit there and talk, man, you ain't going to get very far.
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Well, there's a place for it, man.
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You know, I think lead leadership, it's so funny because people get, they think management and leadership are the same things and they couldn't be more polar opposite, right? A manager manages numbers and a manager manages actions over and over and over again. A leadership coaches and empowers.
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You know, it's a massive difference and that's why your dad's board members have been with him for 25 years. That's why you guys have built the culture within Gronk Fitness to where it's at right now because there's real leadership and real leadership is something that to me is dying and it needs to be brought back because there's too many people out there doing this instead of showing.
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Yeah. Yeah. It's wild, man.
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That's what they say, right? And it's so funny because it's like every aspect of your life, right? You're either on or you're off, right? And you can be on in so many different areas. And for so long, I was on with the show, right? And I talk about this a lot and I was off with my,
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you know, internal belief system about what I deserve to look like, what I deserved, what kind of shape I deserve to be in. And finally I was like, okay, well, I got to get this on par with everything else in my life. And the moment that I did that, I'm noticing like my interviews are even better. Like my mind's working clear.
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It's not. So I'm like, okay, well, if we were here with the show before, I mean, we're going to be way up here. Like I, Hey, I'm excited to go through 2025 and see where everything ends up, but also kind of like, hey, let me get that crystal ball. Let me look and see what the end looks like because I think it's going to be massive.
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I think people fear failure way too much. Like if you're going to be really good at something, you, you're going to be a big failure.
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It's a chip on the shoulder.
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Yeah. You know, I've learned to control it a little bit, but at the same time, like I...
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You need that limbic system to be messed with just a little bit. It's funny. Like, and I'm not comparing myself or you to Michael Jordan, but Michael Jordan was like that too. he, it was, it's rumored. And I don't know if it's true that he would make things up on the court. Like someone just wouldn't be surprised just so we can go out and show out. Right.
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And so for me, like, even when someone says something positive, like, Hey man, like by the end of the year, I think you could be here. I'm like, bitch, see you in six months.
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And then in my mind, I'm going, I'm going to be there in three. Right. Because if I, if I, if I hold that discipline and I push and I push and I push, then I know I can get there before six months. But again, it's like doing it and not holding that grudge. Like I remember people telling me back in the day, you're not ready to have this individual on the show or whatever. Oh, it would eat me up.
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But what I did was I said, okay, you said that out of love, but we're going to get there.
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And we got there, you know?
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Yeah, man. I think, you know, as great as the show did in 2024, you know, like we're filming it in 2020.
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This will come out in January. So people listening now have already gone through the holidays. But I mean, dude, we... We crushed 1.2 mil. We hit a million downloads in November. And yesterday, December 21st, we're at 1.2.
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So many starts and stops.
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A lot of tears, not going to lie. A lot of like, what the hell am I doing? But you, like you said, my team, you know, my partners, you know, Pat, you know, and, and, and my, my production team, you know, Ryan and Mike and Jamie, they, they, they just, they get me and the show is starting to really take shape. And like, just every time. I can even listen to, I can even listen to myself now.
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I remember back in the day, dude, I would just listen to, Oh man. Yeah. You ever look back at your old shit and you're like, God, I'm surprised people even paid attention to me, man.
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When the cameras go off, we'll take our shirt off.
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We'll cuddle. It's fine.
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That'll be like you getting in the ring with the Pauls. Like I'm not doing that to myself. I probably wouldn't eat another meal for three days.
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Yeah, sounds like him.
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You'd be like, hey, now my goal is 12 on a DEXA though. So if I'm 12 on a DEXA, I might be seven.
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But I'm going to be honest with you. Honest with all you people. I don't know if I want to be seven. I don't know if I want to do. Yeah. You might get too shredded. Yeah. I mean, like, I don't know if my wife would get off me at that point, you know, like that'd be uncomfortable. I'm like, babe, there's kids around.
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Can't even go to Publix without somebody putting a pineapple on the, on the, on the golf cart.
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Did you hear about that?
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I don't know if it's true. So people are saying if you walk around Publix or grocery store with a pineapple where the kid sits, it means you're a swinger.
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So Corey's like, I am going to Publix every freaking day and I am looking for pineapples.
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I love this conversation so much. And I just, you're paying for it either way. Yeah, you're paying for it either way.
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Hey, I mean, perspective.
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Now, do you get drunk off rum cake though?
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Yeah, you can't eat all the cake, but there were shrooms in there.
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Depends what kind they were. Depends what kind they were. Exactly. Dude, it's funny. Today was actually my rest day. I hadn't rested in like eight days. Yeah. And I started feeling a little bit in my chest. I'm like, okay, I don't know if I'm getting sick or not. So I took today off, man, but I'll be back at it tomorrow.
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I still might go for a while.
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I might, I might end up in the hospital.
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Might be. I know I'm not running. I know I'm not running today. That's for damn certain. I'm not doing that. Oh man. But yeah, you got, you do a lot of cool things, man. What's the, what's the most fun thing that you do out of all the cool things that you got going?
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Yeah.
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You guys made him forget about what he's about to go do.
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That's in February.
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Especially if Sherry's there.
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This guy goes out there. Okay. Fucking Sherry, dude. He goes out there. Okay. Ready? I can't wait to hear this.
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I mean, it happens, man. It happens. Families.
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You just throw them in the microwave and you're good, right?
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There you go.
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Yeah, the radiation's not good.
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Shout out to Valentino.
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Look how good I am.
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That's genius.
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It's going to be a fun video, man.
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I think I am. I think I am. Yeah, I'm a Gulf Coast. Yeah, don't do that, dude. That would be a good outtake. Pour it right on me. Put that in the outtake. Yeah, because I'm right by Gulf Coast Town Center.
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Yeah, right there.
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The night before, the night before his first match, he's crushing Bluebell ice cream. Oh my gosh. He slept in and he didn't make his match.
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I mean, cause I mean, I would imagine you guys put away some food.
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I remember, it has to be. So I have, like I said, I have three kids and a wife, right? So a family of five.
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Before COVID or before the last hike or whatever it was when, anyway, groceries were like 200 bucks, like for a week. And now if I go back and do the same thing, I'm paying like 500, 600 bucks. Yeah, so we're probably at least 1,500.
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That's like a horse.
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Because I mean, she'd have to go about the master bedroom because you guys ate all the damn food.
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Yeah, now they send him ice cream. I'm like, wait a second, dude. You're missing out on this. They're sending you ice cream. Tell them to send you money.
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Okay.
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I mean, much respect. I know you're up in Boston, but like for a Florida guy that this morning was frigid.
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I mean, come on, dude.
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It's like, okay, that's how people get sick.
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I take some immune defense. That's smart. I'm good. Well, I'm not good.
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My buddy Jeff Delaney gave it to me from the NuViva clinic I was telling you about.
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Yeah, he gave it to me. Gives me all my all-in-ones. They're like those big old horse pills. I have to take like 10 of them a day.
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That might be it. It might be scratched. I might have some damage to my trachea from my freaking vitamins. Good God. But hey, it's working, man. It's working. That's what matters. Well, look, dude, I'm super jacked. Thank you for coming on.
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Hey, dude, I'm just trying to catch up. I'm just trying to catch up, okay? I'm trying to catch up to the Gronk man here. Look at you.
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I don't know, man. I don't know. I might eat the ice cream, bro.
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So funny story. We were talking about height. Sorry, I want to go back because I want to clear up something on the air. My wife makes fun of me when she sees my license. I can't wait to hear why. You are not, you are not, you are not six foot. I said, listen, in college, when I put cleats on, I was six foot. That's fair.
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Baseball.
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No, well, I was my freshman year and I got hit once. I'm like, I don't like this shit. That's funny because I never played football either. That running back came through the gap and just laid me on my ass. I'm like, this isn't fun.
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No, I'm not. My height and weight, I got measured at the clinic. Yeah. I am every bit a 5'11 on the dot. That's fair. Well, I mean, it's not 6'6", but like I'm not 5'10".
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I mean, come on.
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You know what? I'll probably start walking and then get pissed at you and then run.
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Inside the Wild World of Gronk Fitness and Gronk Beach | Shawn French Talks with Gordie Gronkowski
Yeah, exactly. Thank you, man. Thanks for having me.
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Inside the Wild World of Gronk Fitness and Gronk Beach | Shawn French Talks with Gordie Gronkowski
Yeah, is that good?
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Is that good? Ryan, put the shit in the show notes so everybody can click on it.
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No, I know you still haven't followed me back.
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I love it, man. No, dude. Thanks again, man. Happy holidays. And we'll be seeing you soon. Happy holidays. Hey guys, be determined. See you next time.
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Sharp French, what up?
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over ice cream yeah ice cream like break this down ice cream how much ice cream like the night before like maybe that would that would have been that would have been that with chicks like that would have been but that would have made sense yes yes you know like you got j-lo and you're sitting there for 15 hours i'm not going to the court yeah okay ryan i get it but ice cream i don't
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Just like the Tyson fight. Do you think the thing was staged?
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Okay. Yeah, don't get killed, dude. I don't need your legs broken, dude. You are tall. How tall are you?
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So, you were like that kid that showed up for, like, Little League tryouts that clearly had no place to be. Had nothing. Like, with shorts and shit.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you had Murph, you had Pat.
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Dude, Murph called Pat on my show, the godfather. You're actually in Pat's new book coming up.
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Okay, so he did it. I approved it. You approved it. I'm excited for that to come out.
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Next year. Next year. Next year. Anyway, so we got sidetracked.
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What's up, everybody? Welcome back. I am your host, Sean French, and this is The Determined Society. If this is your first time listening, please go subscribe to all the channels on Spotify, Apple, YouTube. Leave a comment. Let us know what you want to hear. Today, I have an amazing guest, my boy, Gordy Gronkowski.
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Of course, yeah.
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That would have been cool. Like, like new Britney Spears, like wild fucking crazy Britney Spears.
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You don't know what you're going to get.
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That'd be cool though.
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No way.
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Oh my God.
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So Corey's like, I am going to Publix every freaking day and I am looking for pineapples.
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It could have been a prank thing.
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He's a co-owner of Gronk Fitness, and he's just a, look at him, he's just a fun guy. Welcome to the show, buddy.
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Which is what I would have literally done so I could get out of the ring.
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Yeah.
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Well, dude, it gives you a different appreciation for these fighters and the punishment they take.
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Especially those UFC guys. Good God.
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I would say perform for your direct leader, no matter what, right? You want to show that you're the good soldier. You want to show that, you know, I am the top producer and this is my responsibility. So come hell or high water, I'm going to, I'm going to do what he asked or what she asked. I'm going to show that son of a bitch.
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But at the same time, when we do that, we're giving them permission to do it again.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I have a question for you, and it could be controversial, but I'm going to ask it anyway. Do you think that boss would have treated you like that if you were a man?
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The men who... Hold on, real quick. Because I see that as bullying. It is bullying. That was bullshit.
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Okay.
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Well, that's harassment. Yeah. Even if you're in the area. Yeah. Yeah.
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That's a disparity there.
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Yeah.
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This is all interesting to me because all of this happened. And I think that. What I want to connect for the audience is that all these things happening in your life, right? Like the disrespect from the boss, the inappropriate behavior, the egregious asks, right? The behavior. It's like everybody has that version going on in their life.
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And what's important is to really highlight the fact that you decided to make a move. And when you make that move, you don't have to have everything figured out. And I think too many people, and before I started the show, I was constantly saying, well, I don't have this yet. I don't have that yet. Like I need to have all these different things in place before I make that decision.
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And in some ways, like before you leave corporate America, you do have to have somewhat of a, you know, maybe a financial plan or a cushion, right? Yeah. But too many people are waiting for the right time and the right time never comes and they're stuck. And you know who gets to suffer from that? Their spouse and their children, if they have children.
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So like, how did you, you know, I know it was just finally done, but like, how long did it take you to find what you were going to do and go on this journey? Because I think this is the beauty part.
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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. Once again, it's me, Sean French. Before I introduce today's guest, yes, you guessed it, please hit subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, Apple, and share this show and the message with someone that you know, love, and trust that needs to hear it. And most importantly, I want to hear from you.
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I didn't execute it.
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I did it. I barely was on it.
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Follow the at the Determined Society on Instagram, at the Sean French on Instagram. Let me know what you want to hear about. And if you want to be on the show, there is an application process. Please feel free to contact me and I can direct you to my my individual that will help you get through all the application. So without further ado, today, I have a good friend of mine.
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That's great.
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Dude, it's so freaking wild. You know, it's, you know, it's funny because it's like every conversation I have with people and every time I break down when someone says, Hey, how'd you build this? Like, I need you to help me build this. And like, here's my goal. And if I could just get there, if I could just get there, if I could get to that spot, you talked about steps.
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Like you don't need to know what's at the end of the rainbow or into the road or whatever, you know, but everybody wants to focus on that macro result.
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And I think, you know, and I know what is going to pay massive dividends for those of you listening and watching right now is pay attention to the small steps because in those small steps, that is you and your process and doing what you need to do strategically every day to move the potential brand, potential business revenue forward. And it doesn't happen overnight.
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So if you're wanting it to happen overnight, you're doing it for the wrong damn reasons. focus on the impact, focus on the process and dive into it and understand in those small micro steps every single day, that's when you're becoming that person you're supposed to be. And then when you are, when you become that woman, when you become that dude, now it starts to open up.
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And now you can finally, you're like, I'm not there, but like, dude, I'm knocking, I'm like 25 miles away. Like I know where I'm going now. And I just kind of feel that in my own life right now. It's like, I'm not there. Yeah. but like I'm getting closer to the destination. You know what I'm saying?
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I met her in a community chat while we were sipping coffee on a virtual event. about two and a half years ago, maybe it may not have been that long ago, but instantly we, we had a really good connection. It was a part of my journey when I was super lost and I didn't know where this thing was going. I knew what I thought I knew and where I felt it could go.
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That's amazing. That's great for Atlanta. Yeah, it's great. You know how many badasses are in Atlanta that can take advantage of that space?
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Talk about that, though. Talk about the fear.
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And everybody would just come.
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It was just like, if you build it, they will come.
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And she poured into me immediately and I've never told her this, but that day she really saved me from making a stupid decision and shutting the show down. So publicly edify her and thank her. Her name is Kiara Palmer and she's an amazing badass entrepreneur. She lives in Atlanta and she recently, you know, started her own studio and her social media management company.
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Thanks for letting me know.
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Competition.
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Surprising.
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So four declinations.
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And it's just an amazing business. And she has had some struggle in leaving corporate America and leading to where she's at right now. So without further ado, Kiara Palmer, welcome to the show.
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It's just that's wild. And like, this is what I really want the audience to focus on, because I'm hearing a lot of. failure here.
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I am. And you know, I didn't know all this, right? Like you open up a studio, you're open. Cool. Like you're, you're executing it. You're having events, you're doing cool things there. But what's, what's very important for everybody to understand here is that there was multiple moments that you could have stopped, that you could have just said, you know what, this isn't meant to be.
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I'm going to, I'm just, I'm going to quit. I'm going to quit.
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It's going down.
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But you know what's encouraging though? It's like you've been through this.
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And you came out of it. Yeah. So in about a year, you're going to come across someone that is going through something similar and you're going to be able to coach him or her through it.
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And help them, let them know, hey, like this is where I was at. These are the stages I went through. And if this is what you're feeling right now, it's totally normal.
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After all this time.
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Never seen you in person.
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Dude.
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There's been multiple people over the years. We may have spoken about this offline. I'm not sure if we have. There's been multiple people over the course of, what, the last four and a half years said you cannot build a brand off the backbone of just a show. I was like, well, why not? Like, well, look at Joe Rogan. He was Joe Rogan. Like, look at Andy Vercela. He started first for me.
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I go, well, dope. I will be one of the first ones that build an empire off of a microphone and a camera. And then I will build something else that comes along with this brand. See, because to me, the way I look at it is like, to me, that's true reverse engineering. Like, no, I hadn't really done anything. I had did some things in sales and I was in the top 10.
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one to 5% of every company I was with. Cool, neat. But I hadn't built a business. And I just feel like now we're starting to really truly build the business aspect of it. But like to going from an iPhone in a car to number three on Spotify and business. that is determination.
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It's like the power of social media though, right? Like right away, let's talk about that because there's a lot of negative connotations with social media. It's this dark place. Well, yeah, if you're a dark motherfucker. Yeah, right. But if you're somebody who like really... If you're somebody that really wants to bring good into the world and you want to meet good people, you attract that. Yes.
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That is like being a glutton for punishment because just like you, just like you sitting in my office, I remember when I was doing the show from home, like I would sit in that den where everybody always saw me smiling and giving the most energetic interviews. Most of the time,
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Before those interviews were shot, I was pacing around the house in tears, depressed because I felt like I wasn't good enough because I wasn't getting the response. But what I learned is I was becoming somebody that was fucking bulletproof. And now that I've changed other things in my life, my nutrition, my activity level.
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And now I'm completely transforming, not just externally, but internally, like, nah, like this is, this is what we're coming onto. Like, this is what we're building. This is what we're doing. And I've become a different human.
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Me and Pedro's talking about that.
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It was a tragedy.
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And, and from there you build these genuine connections that I may not even have in person with people that live in the same city.
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Slow process. Yeah. Yeah. And we'll land the plane here. You know, like this has been such an amazing conversation. I just wish you were local so we could do it again soon. But like we talk about the instant gratification, like, and I, and I mean this with complete respect. Cause I don't want this individual to hear it and think that I'm shit talking. Cause I respect them.
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Diary of a CEO, Stephen, Stephen Barnett.
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Had no clue who he was until two months ago. I'm sorry. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't know that. And so I look at that and I could say overnight success. I know homeboy has been grinding. He's been at it. And again, maybe I was just misinformed and I, that wasn't in my algorithm right now. It is the dude's amazing.
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Like when I, and so when I got the picture sent to me from my friend Steve over the weekend on a Sunday morning at 6, 6 AM, dude, look at this. Like it was him. Then it was Monday morning coffee or something like that. And then the determined society, I'm like, oh my God, I'm like right there with that guy. And it was really cool. But like, nothing is an overnight success.
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That dude has been grinding just because I didn't know who he was. And I don't, I don't mean that as a knock, but like there's a bigger picture here. There's a massive undercurrent of, of all the work that he's done. I mean, that dude's a G man. Like I didn't know who he was now, but now I'm like, dude, I'm a fan of this guy. He and I should get on a show. We should. Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, I mean, my people get in touch with this people. I get my people.
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You just never know.
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You can, but you can't come off it like determination. Well, answer that. What is, what does determination look like to you?
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Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
There it is. There it is. Don't let up. Just don't let up. You can be the person that's going to quit. Quitting is going to be hard. Sticking with it's going to be hard. Choose your heart. That's not a proprietary statement, but really think about that. Like, do you want an easy life or a hard life? I would rather the easy life. So I'm going to do the hard shit. Right.
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Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
So just thank you so much for coming on. I adore you. This has been amazing. Can't wait to get some food with you after this. God, what a, what a,
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Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
surreal moment yes it's a real moment that's what i love for this so thank you for coming down here and i can't wait until we're celebrating you being number one i can't wait that's gonna be incredible you know i got goosebumps because i i want to say that celebration for number one not categorically yeah but overall it's coming it may be five years maybe 10 damn it it's gonna happen and we will fight on those micro movements and those in that process until we get there so
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Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
With that being said, guys, please share the episode with someone that you know, love and trust that needs to hear this story of overcoming obstacles and turning it into opportunity that Kiara has done. So thank you guys so much. Until next time, stay determined.
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Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
This person's real. I know. This person.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
I know, right? God almighty.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
Amazing. Thank you so much for flying down here.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
Like, you know, that's one of the most amazing things is, like, you know, never in a million years did I think that this platform would turn into, like, my friends flying in. Yes. Flying in to do this.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
And I think that's like one of the things where I just kind of realized like, okay, we're doing something valuable here.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
Because if it wasn't, you wouldn't, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
I'm so grateful. Yeah. So grateful. For the audience that doesn't know you, right? Why don't you give them a little peek behind Kara Palmer and everything that's gone on in the last, what, three, four, five years?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
I don't know what year it is. I'm like, I think it's so, dude, it's been January for seven years.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
Yeah, I think it's January 56th right now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
So fun times.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
Hell yeah, dude. So you've been in an insane asylum with a white padded room and a straight fucking jacket.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
But is there ever a right time? Like, honestly?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
It's perfect.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
Wow.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
What'd you like better? Probably Maui, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
I don't know.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
You and Hubby did that?
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Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
It's so funny because like I've, I've been to a Wahoo. I went with my, for my senior trip, I went with my ex girlfriend, um, who has passed away since then. We were, um, We stayed really close friends, but we went to Oahu. Everybody told me like, dude, it's like San Francisco on the beach. Yeah. You know, I'm like, well, it's Hawaii. So we're going to go. It was a blast.
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Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
I've never been to Maui, but I want to go now. I'm all the way over here in Florida. So it's like, that's like a 10 hour flight. It is like, yeah, come on. I might as well go to Australia.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
Hmm. That's a thought.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
It was awesome. Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
God almighty.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
I want one of those beds to sleep in and like, you know, like maid service.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
Did I say maid? Is that degrading?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
It's probably fucked up.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
Yeah. Well, you guys know my intention.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
You don't turn the show.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
That makes me anxious. Um, okay. So, um,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
The dual ADHD is fucking.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
I know. It's like, Oh my God. Okay. So, um, situation happened. Yeah. Are you open to talk about the situation? Like what happened?
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Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
What's a quiet quitting?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
Oh, you're just disengaged. Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
I know that game.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
What's very important for everybody to understand here is that there was multiple moments that you could have stopped, that you could have just said, you know what? This isn't meant to be. I'm going to quit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
That's like, and he's like, Oh my God, what are you doing?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
What did the boss say?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
Good. What an asshole.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
Like really? So, so for the audience, like, listen, everybody's going through shit in corporate America. And I'm not saying leaving corporate America is your answer. What I'm saying is you need to find a situation where you can not just be yourself, but you can feel supported and truly led by your leader. Do not work for anybody that is going to cross boundaries.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Leaving Corporate and Betting on Yourself | Kiera Palmer on The Determined Society
and break commitments like that is not okay what part of somebody would literally say like this has been on my calendar for three weeks and then say you know what an hour before you're supposed to leave you need to stay but everybody i say that but we've all been in that situation so many people you know i've worked for some big fortune 500 500 companies like big ones and you always want to
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Audience, I want you to tune into this, like literally lock the fuck in right here. From nine years old, you were incarcerated and you were incarcerated for the next seven years.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
You know, it's funny you mentioned that because, you know, you and I have been talking a lot and, you know, John's name has come up. We talk about turning adversity into opportunity. And I feel like most successful people will take the darkest days in their life, right? There's some things right now that I opened up to you before the show that's going on in my personal life that is not
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
not optimal man you know it's not the best situation but it's like out of that adversity is going to come opportunity i didn't know where it was coming from you and i spoke and like oh we could do something together here right like holy shit like in in in what i want the audience to really understand about what i'm saying and you know borderline tangent is Stop judging what you're going through.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Like, you know, and I'm looking at the camera because I want the audience to understand, like, so many people judge the adversity that they're going through. Absolutely. Why me? Why am I going through this? I'm a good person. Why is this happening? It's just like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But what I've learned this time around is I'm just... in baseball terms, we say, wear it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Just like you'd wear a pitch. Yep. Let that ball hit you and let it burn, man. Yeah. And it's like, because it's building me. That's right. It's like, it's building me. It's like, wait a second, dude, this is serving me in such a positive way. I don't know what it is yet. I'm surely not going to judge the obstacle, but I'm surely not going to judge the opportunity either. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
So I think what I want the audience to get out of it is like, whatever you're going through, Just submit to it. Lean into it. Like, literally, you know, lean into it. Like, it's your first kiss or your, you know, you may now kiss your bride or, you know, whatever. And you lean into it. Lean into that struggle.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Because on the other side of that struggle is the person who you have become because of all that struggle.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
So my guest today, his name is Brad Miller, and he is the owner and founder of Southern Tier Telecommunications, and he's just an amazing guy, and he's done some amazing things in his career and built an amazing freaking business that would blow your mind, but it didn't come without hardship, and we're gonna get into the story of who Brad is today.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Sorry, this is everything to me right now. Right, because I've had multiple conversations lately. Like a buddy of mine said that he would go to bed at night wishing he would wake up and look like this certain wrestler. It was on a show. And I said, wow, that's powerful because if that would have happened, then you would have robbed yourself of who you were gonna become in that journey.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Most people are so interested, like you said, the instant gratification, and that comes with social media. Make a million dollars in 90 days. First of all, guys, if you ever believe any of that shit, you deserve to get swindled. Sorry. And you will. You will, because you cannot make a million dollars in 90 days. You cannot. I don't care what they say, okay? You can one exit, 10 exit, 39 exit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
I don't give a shit. You're not making a million dollars in 90 days. Anyway, I'm moving on now. Said my piece on my sub lock, but, but like, but right. So what, what we want is we want to fast forward all that. Right. Yes. And we're forgetting that, you know, from this point of contention or, or fear based or a big losing streak, we want to skip all the way here to win the fucking world series.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
So without further ado, my man, welcome to the show.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
You got, well, Hey, um, these are macro results here. Yeah. Okay. The big losses are from past decisions that either you or I have made, right? And there's many of them that created this loss. And then the big win is a series of decisions that people don't see every day. And that creates the win. Now, all the micro stuff in between, that's the joy, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Because that's where you experience the pain. That's where you experience the tears. That's where you experience the camaraderie between friendships, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
This is like, this is, I got goosebumps right now. Like I just, I just absolutely adore and love you and the family. And you know, we, we had, thank you. We had such an amazing time for Marina's birthday. We have many, many good moments. Oh, we have, we've done, we've met each other and we we've had Halloween where I danced on your lap in the golf cart.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
That's when you start understanding what actually works for you, where you dive into yourself, you dive into your business, you dive into your body, you dive into your mind, you dive into your spouse, your children, and your spirituality, and then you crush it because you became an absolute bulletproof monster here in the micro movements. Yes. Who wants to do that? No one.
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Jackie tells me all the time, listen, dude, you're a dreamer. I get it. I love it. But you get excited about things and you don't think about the downfalls in between, right? You just jump in and go. That's right. And it pisses me off. But it's true. It's true. That's why it pisses me off. It's called grounding you. Exactly. Sometimes I don't want to be grounded. None of us do.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
I wish that moment would come out. And then we've done Friendsgiving.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Right. But she's right. But then she follows up with it. But that's what also makes you really great. That's correct. But sometimes you need me to say, Hey bro, which is incredibly important.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Right. And then we recently did, I missed New Year's. Thank God I did because I heard you. That was a good place to miss. I'm glad we did. And then Marina's 36th birthday. That's right. That was so much fun at Ember. Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Well, that's what the brand is.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
They think it's the product. The brand is who the freak you are. Yeah. Like what? I mean, yeah, we're on the same page.
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Okay.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Yeah, too bad we had to go home because we had a sitter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fun continued, but... I'm sure it did. I'm sure it did. I'm really kind of jealous and also kind of scared to ask.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
I want you to finish the story, but it's important because I want the audience to understand the type of woman she is because I've experienced it because I know her. Yes. But to have a 23-year-old girl, a young woman at that time, have that type of clarity about what she wants. And really, that was not about her. That was about what she saw in you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
And if you do not execute it, you are not showing me who you are, who I know you are.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Oh, we've done backyard social together. That was a fun night. That was the first night we met.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
No, no, no, no. I think it was backyard social. No, we went to Max. We went to sushi. Really? Yes. How much sake did you have? Yeah. They put the six of us in the corner, remember? Oh, yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
But no, man. So we've had some good times and many, many more. But dude, like... Super happy to have you on the show because the one thing that I realized at Thanksgiving, right? I knew you were a friend. I knew you had, you know, you've created this amazing business, but I didn't really understand your story because I didn't know about it. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
And you started speaking on it a little bit and I'm like, dude, we got to have you on the show. So give the audience a small peek behind who Brad Miller is and what you have gone through, and then we can expand on it throughout the show.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
And that was like right in the height of COVID, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
It's amazing. I just think as we land the plane today for the audience to think and to really go back and think about and reflect upon the whole episode here, the conversation with my friend Brad, who at nine years old was incarcerated. for seven years, gets out when he was 16, and his own mother, who gave birth to him, stood up and said, that is not my child, and walked right out.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Has built something to where now he has a legacy. You're helping people. You are a good friend. You're an amazing husband, father, and a great friend. Obviously, I think I already said that, but you've built an empire and you're teaching others how to do it. So, you know, for those people that are struggling, there is a way out.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
And I want them to understand that it may not be telecom for them because they may not understand how to get ahold of you, right? They may not understand how to learn this business, but just because you had the most humbling beginnings, that is not a death sentence. It's not your life sentence, right? Like no matter what happened,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Like you have the opportunity and the choice to move forward every single day and to make something great out of the rest of your existence.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
I think too, man, the one thing that I want to happen is my wish is The first wish was, when I created the show, was to wake up in a society that was determined to go chase their dreams no matter what their emotions were telling them on that day. It's still that. But it's also, I want people to understand that we live in a world of co-creation and not competition. Yes.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
But can you imagine how many amazing things can happen if two badass entities would be like, dude, you're good and we're good. Let's start beating up on each other and differentiating. Let's see how we can impact the whole world together and co-create.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Have you ever read The Go-Giver? No. No. You need to read it. Interesting book. I'm almost done with it. I'm going to give it to you because the guy in there, I'm not going to ruin it. I'm not going to ruin it. All right. There's someone listening right now based on what you said, understands where I'm going with it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
I will finish it this weekend, hopefully, and I will give it to you so you can read it. And you will, my buddy, David Waldy sent it to me. Such a good guy. Randomly just send it to me.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
And I think you're really going to connect with it based on what you just said. That'll be awesome. It'll be really good. It's going to help you understand you even more than you already do. Um, but, uh, let's tell the audience where, where can they find you, man?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Like it, can they get in touch with you on, I know you're not a big social media guy, but a lot of people that listen to the show are on social media and may want to say, Hey, heard the show, man. Like can you, can you help me?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
I feel a certain way about it, but I want to hear what you have to say.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
It's amazing, dude.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
It's pretty interesting. It's very interesting. Well, look, dude, I appreciate you. Thank you for coming on. Yeah, thanks for having me. You gave the audience a ton of value. And you heard him. The website will be in the show notes. So please make sure you go check him out if you have any questions. And if you're interested in a career in telecom, he's your guy.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
But again, I just want to thank you guys for listening and watching once more. Staying consistent with us as we've grown this amazing show with amazing guests and an incredible production. Couldn't do it without you. So please keep sharing the show with your friends, people that you know, love and trust.
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
And don't be scared to send an email or something or a message to talk about what guests you want to hear, what topics you'd like to hear if I haven't covered anything. And please go ahead and leave some reviews, written reviews on Spotify and Apple. Helps us keep doing what we're doing. Appreciate you guys. Until next time, stay determined.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Like my daughter, Alina's eight, you know, Alina.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
You were, hold on, hold on. And audience, I want you to tune into this. Like, if you were driving and you got all the things going on in your mind, literally lock the fuck in right here. So you, from nine years old, you were incarcerated and you were incarcerated for the next seven years.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
It's like almost like the same situation you were in that got you. I don't want to say cause you to do those things. Right. Cause you made the choice as a, as a youth. That's right. And your frontal cortex isn't fully developed out of that. Right. Obviously that goes without saying, but here you are at 16 reintroduced to society and
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
And literally in the same type of environment with people that didn't know how to make it on their own.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
What were you carrying a razor blade in your mouth for? What would that do?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French. And before I introduce today's guest, please do me a favor. If you haven't already, please go subscribe to Determined Society, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and the YouTube. Come check us out everywhere at the Sean French on Instagram and at the Determined Society on Instagram as well.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
now if something like that would come up, you'd be like, yeah, no, like that's a hard stop. So how does that line blur, you know, when you're, when you had second kid, you know, and now you're starting to get back on the right track.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
I mean, you're still, you know, you're, you're, you're running the drugs, but that line, like when you go in to do that armed robbery, are you saying that the logic of what might could happen doesn't even come into your mind? At the moment it didn't.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Today, I have a special treat for me and for you. It's not very often I get to interview somebody that I know, love, and respect on a personal level. But when I do, it's everything to me because I see the embodiment of what the individuals talk about on my show in real life. see the family, see the children, have dinners, friends givings, all that kind of stuff.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
There's a lot of sugar in that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
So I have with me my man Alvin Lavitan in California. Welcome to the show, boys. Thanks, buddy. I appreciate it. I appreciate you having us. It's always great. It's a pleasure. It's a pleasure. You guys got quite the gig here, man. You got four locations, right? Veteran owned. Correct. Just a beautiful. So, like, what was the vision, man? That's you, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
It's crazy. I stopped liking to drink a while ago. I just don't like it anymore.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
That's some good stuff. That's really cool, man. It's really cool. I mean, hey, it's a healthy habit, right? They're going to feel better. They wake up in the morning. They're probably doing better at work. And you know what? If they're married and with kids, they're probably having better interactions with the wife and they're probably a little more patient with the kids, right? Hands out.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
You know? Absolutely. So I agree. So, I mean, I just think that, you know, when we when you look at it, everybody wants to, you know, they have the idea of wanting to get in better shape, wanting to do something. That's what the show is about. It's about determination and discipline. Right. But but there's a disconnect with people, man. What do you think? What do you think it lies?
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You know, with the disconnect to continue on the path. Let's say you have someone come in, you know, starting the gym, and you can just see them quit on themselves after about a month. What do you think that's going on in their mind?
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Oh, I do remember that. That's good stuff, dude.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Right. You know, it's crazy. So this, this is one of the things that used to be with me. Like I would, I would play with it a little bit. Right. Yeah. Like I'm committed and I'd bring my clothes when I'd go on a road trip to go to the gym. Cause you know, all hotels have gyms and I would never go. And it's so funny.
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Last night was the first night I stayed here, and my ass was up at 4 a.m., and I was in the hotel gym by 4.30. There you go. And, dude, I was so proud of myself. As you should be. Because I've never done it. Yeah. You know, like, yeah, I'm locked in, but am I really locked in? Can I do it here? And so it was a non-negotiable for me to get in the gym.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
most of the time. I've been passing out hard, man. I've been passing out real hard around 9. My wife's like, are you going to fall asleep early again? I go, Dude, my body's just tired. I'm going to bed tired.
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Oh, it's a serious group.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
There's still 80, 90 people here on Friday night at 930. Yeah, come on. That's insane. The thing, dude, that I found is you can shift, right? You can go, okay, I can either be happy and go do what I need to do or I can be miserable the rest of the day and have this burden on my shoulder. Correct.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
But the one thing I found, but I think it's so dangerous and I want the audience to really think about this, is the moment you tell yourself the night before I'm going to get up at, six, seven, I don't care what time it is, to go do a certain activity. And you don't go do it. You are setting your day up for failure. Correct. Because now you've already taken the easy road.
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And the moment you take the easy road and choose easy over the hard... Like your discipline goes out the window. Now, the next time you have to make a decision through that day about, am I going to do the right thing or am I going to do what's easy? Guess what you choose.
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It happens. I've been through it. Hey, I've been there, right? That's what got me in trouble.
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My wife would destroy me.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
You know what's crazy? A lot of times, too, with what I'm doing, I'm trying to show people. you know, hey, you can make these changes. Like if I can do it, you can do it. And I'm really looking to inspire.
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So every morning I've been doing these things on my story, like around 4.30 or, you know, like right before I go into the gym, I'll write this message on whatever download comes to my mind, you know, about comparison or, you know, whatever it is, discipline. It doesn't matter, right? I'm giving value first thing in the morning. And then I'll put a timestamp on it
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And then I'll put blood type determined every day. People like, I love these. These are freaking incredible. Like, thank you for these. Like, oh my God, I was just dealing with this last week and dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. Thank you for putting this. I know I'm not alone. So you know what? I have to wake up and go. Yeah. Because I was watching you. Yeah. Because if I don't. All right. He stopped.
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And the bottom line is, there might be something on the calendar, like you said, like maybe I'm traveling. But if I'm traveling, I'm still doing the story.
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What's that?
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
I need that accountability. Yeah, 100%. And then, hey, keep doing these. Keep doing these. So that's me every single day. That's my self-accountability, but I'm also doing it to help people because I know everybody else is thinking the same thing.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Yeah. A lot of times people tell me, like, oh, my God, I needed to hear that. I'm like, I needed to write it because I needed it. Yeah, absolutely. Right? That's, like, the best type of coaching when you're, like, just sharing your journey with the public and your friends.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
It helps you heal, but at the same time, it gives value to them, and then it sets off a whole, you know, chain reaction of them going out and taking action. Yeah.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
You're 34. And you're? I'm 45. So I'm 46. Yeah. So we're in the same age. Yeah.
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Comparison is the thief of joy.
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Yeah.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
But you know what you can also think of, too? Huh? You don't speak up. What was that? If you don't speak up. If I don't speak up? And tell your story. Yeah. You're selfish. You know why? Because someone needs to hear that shit.
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We were just winging it. Yeah, but see, the point is, though, right? It's, like, your story, and I know this is extreme, but your story could save someone's life. Possibly.
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I'm broke. What's the point of being here?
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
See? See? But no, I think, you know, at the beginning of everything, it was me and Kyle were talking about it. You know, you asked me if I knew this whole imposter syndrome thing. Yeah. That's just until you get proficient at something, right? That's normal, right? But it's also when you compare yourself to other people thinking like, what have I actually done, right?
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
But then you're looking at a snapshot of someone's life. You have to go off your experience, right? Everything that you've accomplished, right? Dead broke at 27. Successful real estate team that you lead. You're married. You have a daughter. You own two gyms. Or you might be partnering with the other two. I don't know. But, dude, you've done some stuff. And people need that light.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
That's wild, man.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
People need to see that. And so this is like a therapy session on calendar.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
We're all over this guy. Hey, come on. But that's going to be my challenge to you after here, man. It's like, dude, just find your voice and do it little by little. Start with maybe typing something on your stories. Maybe then do a video, but just understand that you've got to be willing to really suck at it.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
You know, because I was terrible. Yeah. You know, terrible. Reps. You get your reps in. You get better. You get stronger. You get faster. Whatever it is. Just like squats, right? You don't have the greatest technique when you squat at first, but you learn. Yeah. You know?
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
If you ever... Can you get back up, too? Oh, yeah. That's amazing. It's like ass to grass. That's easy. Ass to grass is an Asian thing, huh? Unbelievable. I'm surprised y'all have never seen that. No, I mean, no. It's... Okay. I'm trying to do a squat right now.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
So what do you do down there? You just hang out? No, it's just a squad. That's what I'm saying. Messing around. I love it, dude. I love it. That's fantastic. No, but, you know, what's next for you guys, man?
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Yeah, dude. I just think that it's so important, like, when you have your purpose and you know what it is, and you enjoy doing something, like, this isn't work to you guys.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
You know what I mean? Sometimes, you know, any business of course. There's stressors behind it. Like, this is fun for me, but there's times where I'm like, dude, this is stressful as shit.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Wait, so, hold on. You own apartment complexes too?
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
I mean, it's like you cannot have all this foot traffic and things not break, right? And that's the part of the blessing and the curse, right? You have this many people coming in. Like I walked in, I honestly didn't know what to expect on a Friday night. You know, I walk in, I'm like... Holy shit, dude. This place is jammed up. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, it's great. Right?
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
But so, yeah, things are going to break. But that's just a testament of what you guys built.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
We understand it. Absolutely. So let me ask you this. This show is called The Determined Society. So I want each one of you to answer this. What does determination mean to you and what does it look like?
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Yeah, that's the Bobby Henline Foundation charity workout, man. They're out there getting it. Yeah, for sure. They're getting it. For sure. It's been crazy. The assault bike.
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terrible brutal oh you guys kept he's a sleeper this guy's a monster he's a stud i mean the dude's strong he's fit yeah he goes i don't do cardio and he does what was your time i think it was 113 113 50 calories in a minute 13 seconds yeah you're about a minute 30 right no i did uh 216 216 i can't generate the forces but the record yeah what was the record
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
That's wild. You had an interesting, you know, analogy before you kicked the workout off. You want to share with the audience.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Dude, that's wild.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
What's even crazier is that one bite of a Snickers is 50 calories.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
yeah right makes sense that's crazy right it's insane so so you guys got the four gyms here what have you guys learned most about your journey and i guess pushing through the fear of opening that because there's you know when you expand right and you add more more gyms there's always a level of like oh shoot what are we doing man you know like absolutely yeah so how do you guys work through that together
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Yeah, it just exploded. I think we were talking earlier, I think it was you, Alvin, you were talking about how many check-ins a day you guys have here.
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And you guys have 3,000 members here.
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At this location. So you're talking more than half the members. Yeah. I mean, they're running through here. Yeah. Right? That's pretty badass.
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Yeah. I mean, I do like to walk in here. You know, we're outsiders. You know, we're from Florida. We come in here. Well, and everybody's been super kind, man.
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Huh?
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Not in our area. No? No. Nothing like this, man. This is different. This is just a hardcore trainer's gym. You want to come here. If you want to get in shape and you want people around you that are doing it that can help you, this is the place to be, man.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
It's so funny because I always say about motivation, I'm motivated like three or four times a month. Yeah. Because really, I truly feel like discipline and determination will bring you where you want to be, right? Motivation is going to give you that kick in the ass that you need. I agree. But it goes away. It's fleeting. It's like tomorrow, right?
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
When we get up here and we light up the stage down there, there'll be so many people that are going to walk out of here motivated as shit. I'm going to go chase my dreams. I'm going to go do this. And they get home and their kid shits themselves. They got the flu. And now they're cooked. They're done. It's done.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
But when we set our systems up like you guys have to build these gyms out, you got the template now. You know what works, right? So when you do that and you execute things daily, right? And for me, filming the show, we have a cadence, right? We all have our certain jobs in here. My job is to show up and do this. and I stay in my freaking lane, right?
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And then from that point, I'm not always, I'm excited to film because it's just what I love to do, but there's certain things within the business I don't like to do, I'm not motivated to do. What the discipline says, hey, I have to, I get to do this. This is what's going to build my business, right? So how have you guys worked through that?
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
What's up, everybody? We're back with another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French. We are live at Iron Asylum Gym in Norfolk, Virginia. Today, I have two special guests with me. But before I introduce the guests, if this is the first time watching, I want you to go subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts and share.
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Because the audience that's listening and watching this right now, someone is struggling with the discipline or just saying like, hey, I'm not motivated to do this. So I'm going to, you know what? I'm going to chill today.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Yeah. So yesterday was quit day. Yesterday was quit day? Is that like literally a day? Literally a day. 15 days or something? 15 days or some shit like that. So it might have been not yesterday.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Who's going to go back and do that, right? It's all about, like you were saying, habit stacking. Here's something crazy. It's something that I've been going through. So on December 3rd, I was 225 pounds. Do what? 225 pounds on December 3rd. Okay. And I said to myself, like, man, you're fat. Like, I didn't like myself on camera. I hated it.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
I hated everything that came out because I was just so puffy. And I'm like, this is not, there's no longevity in this, right? I'm unhealthy. So I went to a good friend of mine. I said, hey, man, fix me. And we went through all my nutrition, put me on a great protocol. I'm down to 200, man. And I'm thriving. I feel amazing.
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They just need someone. Yeah, and it's in person, too.
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Dude, I mean, dude, I love water. I do that when I'm fat, too. I love the taste of water. Water's the best thing, yeah. It's the best ever. No, it is. But my point is, is, like, I had the habit stack, right? And I went to somebody, like my friend Jeff Delaney, that went through my whole nutrition. He does have a weight loss clinic in Naples called NuViva. And we went through everything, man.
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This episode was something that you know, love, and trust that needs to hear this. So today I have with me the owners of this beautiful gym that is 25,000 square foot lifters gym. This is a beautiful place, man. People down here right now at 9 p.m. on a Friday night getting their lift in. So this is a whole other meaning to Friday night at the bar, right?
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Consult, DEXA scan, everything. I've done two DEXAs already. In four weeks, I lost 13.77 pounds of fat. in four weeks, just by training hard, right? Six days a week. And, you know, three days of weight training, three days are hit training and I'm dialed in on my nutrition and I'm getting the results. But like, I'm not sitting there thinking like I have to go so hard in the gym.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
I'm like, man, I'm going to, I'm going to start slow. I'm going to, I'm going to go to all these workouts because I committed to it and I reached out for support. But the main thing I'm going to do is I'm going to listen to my body.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
And it's so funny because now the aches and pains that I had, I was talking to my buddy Mike before we shot the show here, like, my spine is more mobile now. It doesn't hurt. My hip flexors don't burn anymore. There you go. Right? My knees don't hurt anymore. Man, 25 pounds? It's a big difference.
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I feel like I look like a different person. You're carrying around a couple of bricks. Yeah, I look like a different person. Like I saw pictures from the event earlier today, and the sales trainer, I'm like, holy shit, I like me now.
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What I found really interesting, and you guys will be able to speak on this, and I want the audience to really...
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hear what you have to say because you know they talk about you know it's going to take months to see the physical change i don't believe i don't believe that right because i i saw it in a week i lost 10 pounds in one week just by eating the right foods and exercising right and then by week two i was down 15 you know and then just by then it's just like incrementally gotten better but the crazy thing is is like people say it's 80 nutrition
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no it's not it depends right case by case i'd say i don't for me it's like for me it's like 99.9 percent right my body is like dude yes i agree no it's nutrition's huge it's massive it's huge yeah so we say case by case right so i mean obviously some one person could eat more of one thing than another person can but correct um but what are your thoughts on nutrition how important it is
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Die negativen Konsequenzen steigen zusammen und du sagst, okay, das ist es, worüber er spricht. Genau. Das sind die Verluste, über die wir sprechen, diese Verletzungen, richtig? Es ist so, du musst sie haben, weil das ist, was den Spieler macht. Das ist, was den Profi macht.
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Es ist interessant, weil wenn wir uns jetzt die Rookies anschauen, und ich habe eine Frage, es ist eine brennende Frage, weil es einige Berichte gibt, die rausgekommen sind. Ich habe einige Posts gesehen, wie Travis Hunter beantwortet hat, dass er beide Wege spielen möchte, oder dass er Fußball nicht spielt. Was hat Social Media und NIL getan?
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Und nicht nur Travis Hunter, sondern generell, aber spezifisch, aber generell, weil ich fühle, dass Back in your heyday, you're like, hey, I'm going to play football, I'm excited.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Du hast den Merch, du hast alles andere. Genau. Ich stimme dazu. Ich denke, wenn die NIL kam, waren wir alle aufgeregt. Aber warte, was wird da passieren? Und jetzt sehen wir, in meiner Meinung nach, das Schlechte. Und was du sagst, ist, hey, wir müssen das ein bisschen wiederverändern. Es muss modifiziert werden.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Das ist ein guter Tipp für die College Athleten, weil sie auf dem Show, in der Determined Society, wir lieben es, echte Beispiele zu geben, von Dingen, die losgehen, und wie Menschen in ihrem Leben besser werden können. Und es ist lustig, weil ich schaue, was mit dem Tennessee Quarterback passiert ist. Es geht gerade um etwas, das er nicht bekommt, was er in Tennessee hatte.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Ich kümmer mich auch nicht um die vollen Details, außer, dass er eine bestimmte Anzahl hatte. Er hat mehr verlassen und er bekommt es nicht. Die größeren Schullehrer sind ihn nicht in Kontakt. Es sind Schulen wie UCLA und er sagt, warte mal. Anyway, you know, as you transition from your career, right? You know, I played baseball at LSU.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
I didn't go quite as far as obviously as you did, but that was a big part of my identity. And one of the biggest things I've noticed with you and your whole family is, is you guys transition really well to the next part of life. You know, how, how, but on the inside though, right?
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
How, how was it when you transitioned from, you know, Rob Gronkowski, the football player to entrepreneur and Fox analyst?
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Findest du es, neue Unternehmen zu eröffnen? Du hast gerade Greenlane geöffnet, richtig? Findest du es, wenn du neue Sachen eröffnest, es ist ein neues Herausforderung und du bekommst diese Art von... kommt da ein bisschen ein Gefühl raus durch das?
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Es ist krass, Mann. Ich möchte darauf eingehen, weil du nach New England geflogen bist, nach viel Erfolg. Und du gehst nach Tampa, du machst es mit Brady, du machst es wieder. Wie cool war dieser Moment? Denn das in einer Dynastie zu tun, das ist eine Sache, richtig? Aber in einer völlig anderen Organisation, Jahr eins, blockieren.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Gehen wir zum Showcase. Lass uns das machen. Ich möchte dir von deinem Zeitpunkt aus respektvoll sein. Ich möchte dir noch eine Frage stellen. Lass uns das machen. Der Show heißt Determined Society. Was bedeutet true Determination für dich?
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
You said it best, man. Ladies and gentlemen, please go share this episode with someone that you know, love and trust. Let us know what you loved about it. Listen to it over and over again. There was a lot of amazing things that Gronk mentioned in this episode that you can use to get better every single day in your craft. And until next time, stay determined.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Camille's great. Yeah. You know, and again, dude, just all jokes aside, you know, it was really nice, you know, overnight at your mom's breakfast. We did those omelets in the bag with the boy. I've never done it like that before. And Camille was so kind. My daughter and, you know, they really vibed and it was just, it was an awesome time, man.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Ich war zweimal dort zum Frühstück. Beide Zeiten. Unglaublich. You know, great food. But the one thing that I've noticed most about my interactions with Gordy, your mom, your brothers and then you and everybody in your family is that you guys are all super kind and you're very well adjusted.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
And it's always great to see somebody that's done the amazing things that you've done on the football field and in your entrepreneurial journey. But then to be such a great person and have such great people behind you, that to me says everything about a human being.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Ja, ich denke, was auch interessant ist für den Publikum, ich möchte wirklich, dass Sie darauf eingehen, weil Sie eine illustrierte Karriere hatten, Sie haben mehrere Unternehmen gebaut, Ihre Brüder hatten professionelle Karriere. In der Tat haben auch Ihre Brüder die Superbowl gewonnen. Gordy spielt professionelles Baseball. Jeder single Gronkowski hat professionelles Sport gespielt.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Aber es hat nicht dort angefangen, in meiner Meinung, wenn ich, wenn ich schaue, ich ziehe die Pfanne zurück. Ich schaue auf deinen Vater. Ich schaue auf deine Mutter. Ich schaue auf deinen Vater und wie er Gronkh Fitness gebaut hat. Und er hat euch zu einer frühen Zeit gelernt, etwas von der Grunde her zu bauen. Und ihr habt das Arbeitsethik verstanden.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Ich weiß nicht, ob es sich anfangs, als ihr in eurer Sportjourney war, übersetzt hat, aber das hat einen sehr positiven Einfluss auf euch gegeben.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Danke, dass ihr mich geholfen habt. Es ist lustig, denn sobald das Publikum schaut und hört, ist es sehr einfach zu sehen, was wirklich im Spiel ist. Es ist wie ein Prozess. Du hast über deine Karriere gesprochen. Du hast über Coach Belichick und Brady gesprochen und über all die Leiter, mit denen du gespielt hast. Es gab einen Prozess jeden Tag.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Es gab die Großartigkeit, die auf dem Feld war und du hattest alles vorbereitet, was du noch nicht gesehen hättest. Deine Eltern haben dich für das vorbereitet, wenn du so alt warst. Als du also in die Universität kamst und in die professionelle Welt kamst, war das für dich einfach zweifellos. Mhm.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Es ist wirklich cool, weil du erwähnt hast, dass jeder sein eigenes Geschenk hat, richtig? Das ist das, was wir erwähnt haben. Deiner war deine Größe, deine athletische Fähigkeit und solche Sachen. Und wir leben in einer Welt der Vergleiche jetzt, richtig?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Und wenn du dem Publikum sagen könntest und ihnen ein Stück Hinweise geben, um zu finden, wer du bist, wer du wirklich bist, ob du hier in einer medizinischen Konferenz bist, richtig? Wenn du in einer medizinischen Firma bist, wenn du ein Athlet bist. Aber das eine spezielle Ding für dich ist, How to stay within that scope and not compare yourself to others?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Was ist up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean Fritsch, and today we are at a special venue for Advanced Solutions' second annual sales meeting. And I have a special guest today, four-time Super Bowl champion, five-time Pro Bowler, and a no-doubter.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Freaking crack up, dude. Good lord. And I only have three quarters of one. Freaking A, man. Cracking up, dude.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Give me ten more. This is like a breakfast for Gordy. Three quarters, yeah. Three quarters, I'm like. It's like a protein shake. I'm a genius.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Als Tom Brady sagte, hey, ich kann dir sagen, du musst schneller sein als Everybody, war das mehr so dein Rookie-Jahr? Weil ich mich erinnere, ich glaube, einer der ersten Shows, die du an deinem Show gemacht hast, war, du sprachst über die Dinge, die Brady gesagt hat, du musst dich um den Typen kümmern. Ich werde dir nie den Ball schießen. War das es? Ist das, worüber du sprichst?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Und ich denke, das ist das, was das so toll macht, weil es literally den Eindruck hat, wie du dich emotional fühlst, wie du dich erholst, wie du schläfst. Und wir wissen, dass Schlaf eine massive Part ist, richtig? Ich meine, das da, ich meine, ich kenne viele Leute, die einen schwierigen Zeitraum haben, schlafen zu schlafen. Meine Frau, Meine Frau hat einen schwierigen Zeitraum, wenn sie schläft.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Sie hat einen schwierigeren Zeitraum, wenn sie schläft. Und ich bin da raus, richtig? Ich bin weg. Also für jemanden, der das Schlafproblem hat, richtig? Es ist etwas mit dem Bein, richtig? Du machst etwas mit dem Bein, mit der Theragun, richtig?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Was ist up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode. I am your host, Sean French, and today I have an amazing guest for you. Before I introduce him, please go follow Spotify, YouTube, and Apple Podcasts to get all the amazing interviews of the Determined Society. So today I have with me an amazing, amazing doctor. He... Hey man, thanks for having me. Absolut, absolut, Mann.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Nein, hey Mann, es ist großartig. Es ist wirklich cool, weil es viel Technologie gibt. Und die Leute erzählen dir viele verschiedene Dinge, um dein Körper für den Schlaf zu vorbereiten. Aber es gibt eine Wissenschaft dazu. Und ich habe natürlich schon ein paar Reden gemacht, bevor wir hier waren, bevor wir auf die Rekorde hoppten.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Und es war einfach großartig für mich, weil ich muss sagen, dass ich es über die Jahre als Rückkehrtool gesehen habe. Und ich sah es als Performance-Tool, richtig? Aber ich habe nie stoppt zu denken darüber, Like, man, what if this could release some of the tension in my neck and in my rhomboids? What am I holding on to that this technology can help relieve to help me feel better, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
And again, if you just take something as simple as two minutes before bed or in between sets at the gym, you can really optimize everything you're doing by activating the parasitic system. I can't speak right now. Good lord. Good god, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Everybody knows what I'm trying to say. There's so many different applications and I think that's what makes it so amazing. And truly, if you look at it, outside of Theragun, all the other products, it's Es ist ein Fokus, diese Firma ist fokussiert darauf, Menschen besser zu fühlen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Das ist so lustig, weil ich all diese Dinge höre und es ist wie dein Punkt, ich wusste nicht all diese Dinge, richtig? Und ich denke an viele Dinge, wie meine Frau immer Schmerzen hat. Right? Doesn't sleep well. All these different things, man. It's just like, there's a market out there with you guys that can help with this stuff.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
And for the audience listening, I want you... You know, there's something that you said about your wife.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Es ist gut, dich kennenzulernen. Ich bin wirklich gespannt, mehr über dich zu lernen und dich mit dem Publikum zu erzählen, über die Ursprungsgeschichte von, es war Theragun, aber es wurde nach Therabody gebrandet. Die Ursprungsgeschichte, wie es geschaffen wurde und wie du durch diesen Prozess durchgegangen bist, ist im Grunde aus Bedrohung, richtig?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
That's interesting because I don't... There's times where I will take those pit stops. I'll be able to identify, Sean, you're running too hot right now. This has been an intense two hours. You need to take some time to downshift and maybe just be. And if...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Die eine Sache für mich, und ich möchte, dass die Publikation wirklich darauf konzentriert ist, weil es viele Leute gibt, die sich schlecht fühlen, wenn sie diese Momente nehmen, weil sie fühlen, als ob sie hart arbeiten sollten, sie sollten es ausbreiten. Ich glaube an hartes Arbeit, aber ich glaube auch an strategische Arbeit und an die Verständigung, wo man ist, an jedem bestimmten Moment.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Und ich bin in das geraten. I wanted to make it very clear. Those moments that you are feeling like you need to just take a beat, you have to. Because it's your body telling you something.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Also, ohne weiteres, Mann, kannst du dem Publikum ein bisschen Informationen geben, wie Therabody geschaffen wurde?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Ultimately, it's not easy, right? It's not easy at all. I, I mean, I find for me, like on the days that I don't record, those are my days, you know, I'll have those times where I can literally for a two hour block, just be okay. Und ich zähle nicht den Gym, weil es um 4.30 Uhr ist. Ich bin kaum wach, wenn ich da bin, richtig?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Aber wenn ich diese Zeiten habe, wo ich nicht mit dem Show etwas mache, dann denke ich mir, okay, das ist eine gute Chance für mich, etwas zu tun, was ich normalerweise nicht mache. Ich werde mich hier unten schlafen lassen und ich werde meine Pferde auf meinen Beinen lassen und ich werde mich einfach entspannen. Und das rührt in mich ein.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Und dann, nach 20 Minuten, fühle ich mich viel besser und ich kann mehr Arbeit machen. Ich fühle mich nicht mehr so schlecht. Das ist wichtig. Welche Tiere hast du? Also, ich habe einen Shih Tzu und einen kleinen Mini Laberdoodle. Meine Frau wird wütend, wenn sie diesen Episode hört, weil ich wirklich einen anderen Pitbull möchte. Ich habe immer einen Pitbull. Ich liebe Pitbulls.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Meine Tiere sind cool, man. Sie sind chill. Milo und Stitch.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Eine Sache ist auch wichtig zu bemerken. Es gibt viele Komponisten, die versucht haben, Therabody oder Theragun zu replizieren. Es gibt große Unterschiede in der Design, wie Theragun mit Balance und so weiter funktioniert, gegenüber den anderen Produkten. Ich möchte darauf hinweisen, weil viele sagen, ich habe einen, es ist dieser. Es könnte ein Drill oder ein Hammer oder so aussehen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Das ist kein Theragun.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Sorry. You know, it's funny because I've used... A Theragun many times. And I've also used something like, if I, something just laying around, I'm at a friend's house and they have, you know, I mean, I guess I could be a jerk and call it a knockoff, but that's just really what it is, right? It's a variation of the Theragun, a different, a competitor. Night and day. Nacht und verdammten Tag, Mann.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Es ist großartig. Wenn ich andere Massagen benutze, fühle ich keine Erleichterung. Ich fühle nicht, als ob alles wirklich gemacht wurde. Aber zu deinem Punkt, Mann, wie mit der Theragun, es ist eine andere Erfahrung, richtig? Es macht eine massiv andere Situation für deinen Körper und für deinen Geist als diese anderen Produkte. Also
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Es ist ziemlich cool, dass ihr so viel Zeit auf diesen Aspekt verwendet, weil viele Leute einfach sagen, okay, lasst uns das herausnehmen, lasst uns das Design machen. Das ist alles, was es tut, richtig? Es ist nur, weil Therapie dich so schlägt, aber es gibt eine Wissenschaft dazu, richtig? Und es ist eigentlich komisch, wie anders es ist.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Ich meine, hör mal, das Gefühl in der Hand, das ist eigentlich eine Sache, richtig? Es gibt bestimmte Pins, die ich nicht benutze, weil wie es in meinen Fingern fühlt.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Ich meine, das ist eine echte Sache. Es ist ein Pen. Es ist ein verdammter Pen, Mann. Es ist nicht etwas, das ich auf meinem Körper benutze. Das ist ein sehr validierendes Statement. Es ist sehr wichtig. Und wiederum, was du auch darüber sprichst, Jason, ist das, was ich liebe. Wir sprechen über Sustainability.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Was auch immer wir in der Welt tun, ob es Business, Fitness, Wellness ist, was auch immer, sportlich, es ist egal. Certain strategies have to be sustainable or you can't keep doing them and they won't be any value to you. And the thing that all the protocols show, it's like, hey, it's 10 seconds here, it's 10 seconds there.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
And if you use it two to three minutes at a time, you're going to have some benefit. I think everybody has those moments to where if they're sitting down watching TV or if they're just waking up in the morning, they can fire the massage gun up and help them make themselves feel better. And it's something they can do every day and not make it feel like it's a chore. Like foam rolling. Yeah, it's
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Was kommt als nächstes? Habt ihr noch coole Projekte, die ihr tätig macht? Ich meine, wenn ihr nicht darüber sprechen könnt, ist das kein Problem. Glaubt ihr an etwas anderes, worüber ihr sprechen wollt und Leute aufrufen wollt?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Like the treadmill that's used as a laundry rack.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
The little elliptical things. Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Nein, ich meine, das ist ein validierter Punkt, richtig? Also, ich meine, weil ich mich vorher angeschaut habe und ich habe ihr etwas gesendet. Ich bin so, hey, schau dir das Ding an. Und sie sagt, was ist das, Junge? Es war die Maske, richtig? Es war mit der, du weißt, der Licht. Und dann, als du mit den, du weißt, die Punkte hier. Ja, die Vibrationen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Ich war so, ich weiß es noch nicht voll, aber ich denke, das ist etwas, das du benutzen könntest. Ich wirklich. Und sie sagt, wow, was hilft mir das? Ich sage, ich weiß es noch nicht. Es ist nur ein Gefühl. Und sicher genug, Mann, sicher genug. Und wiederum, das ist das Ding. Diese Produkte, sie sind wissenschaftlich und sie sind da, um dich zu helfen, um dich besser zu fühlen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Verbinde dich mit deinem Geist, verbinde dich mit deinem Körper. Denn die Mehrheit der Bevölkerung sind nicht diese hohen Level Athleten, richtig? Ja. Sie sind nicht. Sie sind tägliche Menschen, die gestresst sind. Und ich meine, für mich, wie ich dir sage, wenn ich abends schlafe, mein Nacken, wie ich mit meinem Nacken schlafe und ich aufwache.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Gleichermaßen ist es so, dass es immer so ist, dass es hier ist und es runtergeht in die Rhomboide und es ist einfach konstant. Ja, es ist konstant, weißt du, also A lot of people on this planet are dealing with that every day. And those types of pains are annoying. They, you know, and it, you know, it can be debilitating at times.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Sicher. Und hier ist das Ding, Mann. Das ist, was ich die Audienz wirklich aufklären möchte. Und ich möchte dich in diesem Thema edifizieren. Jeden Tag geht jemand durch etwas, was wirklich, wirklich schmerzt. It hurts emotionally, it can hurt physically. And a lot of times we find ourselves in this, why me? What is the good part about this? How could this be here to serve me?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Und das ist das, was ich dem Publikum wirklich anzeigen möchte. Weil da ist jemand, der gerade hört. Und viele Male können wir in diese Mode kommen. Oder ich. Oh, das ist wirklich schrecklich. Warum ist das bei mir passiert? Wenn du diesen Weg genommen hättest, würdest du heute nicht da sein. Wie kann ich die Veränderung in meinem Körper beeinflussen? Wie kann ich das machen?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Und es beginnt alles mit dieser unglaublichen Sache, die Kuriosität. Das Moment, wo du da sitzt und dein Arm auf das Ding setzt, während du die Behandlung wartest. Und sie sind so, wow, warte einen Sekunden. Was ist das? Und es fühlte sich besser an, richtig? Und von diesem Punkt an hast du das mit einem Makita-Drill und einem Bindblad und einem Tauch verarbeitet.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Du hast mit dem, was du hattest, angefangen. And you built from there. And I commend you for it, man. That right there is taking your pain and turning it into somebody else's roadmap for recovery.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
I like that. Das macht Sinn, richtig? Das macht viel Sinn. Also, ich möchte euch so sehr danken, dass ihr heute mitgekommen seid, Mann. Es war so schön, euch zu treffen und zu sprechen und über dich persönlich zu lernen und wie Therabody angefangen hat und einfach die Reise, die ihr alle geht. Ihr habt ehrlicherweise eure Kunden im Kopf.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
public in mind when you're building out your products you're not building gimmicks you're building things that can actually help people so you know from a consumer thank you and uh to the audience go check out therabody go check out my guy go check out his products This episode is not about selling products.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
This is about providing you with the information that you need to go make an educated decision for your wellness. I think this is an obvious choice. Thank you all so much. Until next time, stay determined.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Die Makita-Drill mit der Bim-Blade?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Was ist mit der Rückkehr? Es ist gut. Du musst nicht zurückkehren. It's funny because you mentioned foam rolling. I'm a former athlete. I played baseball at LSU. Foam rolling is always the worst part of the day. It hurts so bad. It shouldn't have to hurt that bad. That's the thing. How can you expect somebody...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Because I've taken a look at your protocol for like morning, afternoon, evening time and then prior to bedtime, right? And all that makes sense. And I want to get into that because it serves a function other than just if you're injured or performance. It could just really be used to help you with your everyday life to stay in balance, right? To sleep good, to feel good. And then yes, recovery.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
But recovery shouldn't, like to your point, it should not hurt like that. It should be something that's sustainable. Because who is going to sit there? Und so, ja, Zeit für Foamroll. Zeit für Foamroll. Ich werde es jeden Tag machen. Und es gibt einige verrückte Leute, die sitzen da und sagen, Mann, ich liebe Foamroll.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Ich bin so, dann musst du keine Nervenendungen in deinen Beinen haben oder sowas, weil das ist nicht gut. Ja. Yeah, it sucks, man. But no, I love it because going back to your protocols, educate the audience on how they could use it in an everyday environment if they're not an athlete or if they're not injured, because I think that's important too.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Chronic Pain to Global Healing: The True Story Behind Theragun
Yeah, the goggles, like everything. And then you have the face mask, the infrared, all that stuff, right? It's like, that's when I'm looking at all this and I'm listening and, you know, in my research and everything like that is... Es ist ein Wellness-Produkt. Es ist ein physisches, mentales und emotionales Wellness-Produkt.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
yo listen up if you run an e-commerce business you already know shipping is a beast when i released my book i thought the hard part was done until i spent hours every day printing labels boxing products and standing in line at the post office that's when i realized my time is way too valuable ship station changed everything it lets you automate your shipping print branded labels from home
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
So whatever you're going through right now, you need to dig down deep and ask yourself, do you truly believe in yourself? Because if you do not believe in yourself, it doesn't matter what. I say on the air or my unbelievable guests are saying, you are going to be fucking stuck unless you can seriously get that believability in you and not just say it, but feel it in your soul, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
That is the cheat code. And from then, you know, in the sales training, that's basically what my whole thing is on. And then know your key performance indicators, know what you have to do daily in order to move the football down the field a little bit, right? But always execute it. but start with the belief, man. And that's what you guys have done. That's what you did. That's what you did.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
You have to change internally for any real external change to happen. There has to be a growth pattern. Like where I am right now is not going to cut it for the next level. Cool. I'm done now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And it's just, I'm loving the brand story of Iron Valley in general because I started in COVID.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Yeah, dude, it was wild. It was wild. So anyway, I'm sorry, dude. I just felt appropriate to highlight what you were saying to the audience so they could really dig down and feel that self-reflection of like, okay, do I really believe I can do this?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
You hit the nail on the head, LJ. It's like, you know, you have to change internally for any real external change to happen, right? So if we're, you know, building our bodies back up, right? Getting in good shape, right? If we're trying to build a business or we're W2 in a sales organization, you are never going to sell and you're never going to excel, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
If you don't change internally, there has to be a growth pattern because if not, you're just the same cat.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And the same cat ain't going to get it done. No. Like where I am right now is not going to cut it for the next level. I have to grow. And so do you guys. It's not a never ending thing. Okay, cool. I'm done now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Like this is fricking Disneyland. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. It's a constant push to get better.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Like, this is freaking Disneyland. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. It's a constant push to get better.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
I like this. And the one thing that I'll say that I love is the fact that you are lifting your boy up right now. It's true. Men don't do that. Men don't do that. You know, not, I'm sorry. That's a, that's a generalization. Most men aren't doing that. Right. They see that as a threat or I like to be exactly where you're at. Julian is like, I want to edify my people.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
I want to say this dude or this girl, she's, they are bad-asses and they are amazing. I want to ask you a question though. Yeah. What do you think the key determinant is? You're the silent ninja, great, you kick ass, but why? What is it about you that can do that? Cause I have my own idea.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
My answer was gonna be service, right? You're serving the people and it's the same answer, right? And that's why I kind of smiled when you said you care for people. Like I find that most successful entrepreneurs actually give a shit about human beings. Like if you just chase the number, We've all done it at one point, right? Like I'm guilty as shit. I like, you know, I got to sell this amount.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Here's my quota. We got to get it. We got to get it. We got to get it. But what I've found now is that when I operate at a place of love and respect and the care for others, and I'm just here to, to give and give and give.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
It's funny how things boomerang back around, and a lot of times it's not that specific situation with that person, but you're like infinitely blessed in another area that comes into that circle, right? And then yes, you do capitalize, you do end up making a lot of money, But it's not because you're out there grinding and like Wolf of Wall Street boiler room stuff.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
You're showing the people who you really are and who we really are as service-driven men. That's what we're here on this earth. We're here to serve.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I am your host, Sean French. Thanks for watching. Before I introduce my two amazing guests this morning, I want to ask you, if this is the first time you are listening or watching this episode, please subscribe on Spotify, YouTube, and Apple Podcasts.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Yeah. LJ, it's a great point. I think it's so important to focus on just the people like you're, if we look at the number, it's like looking up at Mount Everest, like, There's no shot I'm getting way up there. Yeah. But if you just take that step and start moving a little bit, like my goal is to help families.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And the more families you can touch and help, then the number's going to take care of itself. And I always say that that's like staying in your process. Mm-hmm. Right. And again, it's sales training. That's what I'm gonna talk about is like staying within the process. You in sales, you have to have your KPIs. Do you know your KPIs?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
If you don't understand how long it takes you or how many calls or how many times you canvas to get an actual real lead, to get a listing or a buyer, then how the hell are you ever going to know what you need to do to hit those goals and those numbers that you need to? But it's also important to understand that you cannot live and die on that. It has to be, how can I impact people?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Like if we make it just about us, we will never get to where we want to get.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Yeah, I agree, man. And you know, the big thing guys, I want to ask you is, you know, like, or to say is if they, if we just, and if people just focus on that activity and let that be the, the journey or the reward, those, those results are quicker because when you focus on this isn't working or like a quid pro quo, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Well, if I make this many calls this week, then I'm going to, I'm going to get X in return. No, bad move, bad move, man. What are your thoughts about that, Jermaine?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Leave an amazing review and, hey, share the episode with someone that you know, love, and trust. Today, I have a great, great treat for you guys. I got two individuals here that are absolute badasses here in Norfolk, Virginia. I have LJ Hunt and Julian Rivera. They work out of Iron Valley in Norfolk and they have an amazing culture. We're here to talk about their journey today and their company.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Love it, man. It's so funny, too. I want to get your guys' feedback on it. I always... look at it like this. And my manager, who's one of my best friends now, my old manager at Paychex is my district sales manager. He brought me in there. He took a chance on me. You know, it took me from, you know, coaching baseball and teaching and making like maybe 40 grand a year.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And I turned into one of the top salespeople in the country at Paychex. And there's like 2000 of them in that division, right? It was a small to mid-sized business division. We call it SMB. And he taught me at an early point in my career there, he goes, no one gives a shit how much you know until they know how much you care. And I looked at that. I'm like, that's a great quote.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And I, and I can see that, but I want to take it a step further. And I want to add, and I always, I always thought it was like, how are these business owners going to walk away feeling after every interaction with me? how do I make them feel? Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And if you can make someone feel special and not because you have an agenda, but genuinely like cast such an amazing light and amazing conversation and care towards them that when they walk away from you, they're like, I really like that dude. I feel comfortable with him. I trust them.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
So boys, welcome to the show. Thanks for having us. What's up, Sean? Dude, chilling, man. Those pushups were fun.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Yeah, man. It's interesting to me. I just find a lot of people you know, they forget that side of it. You know, they forget that, you know, we're not entitled to success. We're not entitled to the sale. We're not entitled to grow. We are entitled the right to choose. That's it. And if we choose the right path daily, right, in growing that trust and value with people,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Man, you know, the world, so to speak, is our oyster, you know? And the one thing that drives me crazy is when people want it right now. It doesn't happen like that, man. I am close. Guys, it's like, you know, you don't know when it's going to happen. There's been some dark-ass times in this show, you know? And you're a listener, so you probably heard me talk about them. Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Like, there's a point, like, after three years, I'm like... I think this show was this. Analytics were telling me the opposite. Do I tuck my tail between my legs, pack my shit up and go home? Or do I elevate? So I decided I have to take more risks. And I remember talking to my wife. This show started with an iPhone in a car.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Now we're in the den and I'm doing it virtually and having someone edit it, right? And I can't control any of the factors. I can't control someone else's camera. Can't control their sound. But if I'm going to take this to the next level and I got to get the hell out of the house and I need some live, I want, I need some one-on-one, I need some in-person shit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And from that point, you know, we, I did that, you know, in June of this year. And then my show went through some growing pains. And then right around September, we hit that stride. We hit that stride where, oh my God, like we're on now. We're on. It's like more people are paying attention. More people are sharing. More people that are coming into the sphere. I'm like, how can I listen to this?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Do you know what's crazy this morning, guys? So, you know, I get up and my team was telling me, hey, don't get up till five. You need to sleep. My eyes opened at like 2.30 in the morning. Finally went back to sleep. And then I was like, fuck, I just got up at four, right? Like normal. Go down the gym or up to the gym. For like an hour and 15 minutes, man, I had that place to myself.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Like what? Like I'm seeing the clips. Like this is great. But it was done because it took a risk. But I think that's another great point, right? We talk about, you know, karma. We talk about the process. We talk about everything. But I think one of the most important factors is taking that calculated risk. I went from, you know, Payne, you heard this on the solo show. Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
My show used to, I used to pay $110 an episode to edit. Now, you know, I'm paying, you know, four figures every single month for all of it. And until I made that decision, I didn't have that revenue. The moment I decided to make that move, then the show started generating some damn money.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Yeah, it's literally what it is. And, you know, I know the listeners, like some people, like they really hate ads. Like, I just want to listen to the show. Right. Well, listen, guys, I just want to be honest. Is when, when, when, when we have a show like this and the production value and the scale that we want to be like, we need revenue to do this and to make it better for you. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And so, yeah, we have some ads and we have, but I've heard Amazon prime on there. I've heard, you know, Lululemon on there. I've, I've heard Walmart. Right. I've heard McDonald's and I don't like that. We got to fix that. But you know, the, the, that that's big for the show. Yeah. You know, and I, I think that, you know, I would say new level, new devil, right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And soon there's going to be host red ads and you'll be hearing my voice read them off, but we're, we, you know, I have a guy that's out there hunting those for me. And so we've figured out a system that, And this is the next point that I want you guys to speak on is I've elevated my systems to a point where I'm doing so many different things. I could be sitting there sleeping.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
and I'm making money on my show. I could be sleeping in my team's editing a show, right? I could be sitting there on a phone call with one of you guys at 10 a.m., and my post goes out because my team does that for me. I interact, okay? I'm the one typing and replying and everything like that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And now, while I'm doing all that stuff, or when I'm hanging out with my kids, my other part of my team is selling ad spots, right? We don't rise to the level of our goals. We fall to the levels of our system. So how important are systems for you guys as realtors and then everybody else in this office?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Nice. It was cool, man. Yeah. It was cool. I'm like thinking the whole time. I'm like, man, I remember, you know, when going on the road, I would bring my workout stuff and I would never go. Right. And now it's like today was a non-negotiable for me. Right. And I was there and that kind of discipline really, you know, helps throughout the whole day. Yeah. You make that first tough decision, guys.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
It's, you know, it always helps. So. Anyway, tell me about, let's start with LJ. LJ, tell me a little, tell the audience about yourself a little bit briefly, kind of give the background, how you came to Iron Valley, you know, maybe your past and, you know, we'll do the same thing with our boy Julian here and then we'll get down and, you know, down and dirty.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
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The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Yeah. Yeah. You have to execute the system. Guys, this has been an amazing conversation. I wish we had like another hour to talk. I feel like this could be a longer episode. I have one more question and I would love for each of you to answer this. And we'll start with Julian. The show is called The Determined Society, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And I built this show and built this brand on the heels of just the sheer wish that I could wake up every day in a society that was determined enough to go chase their dreams no matter how they felt emotionally. And that's what I stick to. That's what we are falling into that discipline and we're executing that daily now. But what does determination mean to you?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Love it, dude. Very good one. What about you, Ben?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
It's very good. Well, guys, listen, you know, I've had an amazing time with you guys, and I'm so excited for the sales training that me and Coach Michael Byrd are going to do. I'm excited for the event tonight. I'm excited for the big event tomorrow. This has been such an amazing experience for me, and we're only, I got here just yesterday.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
I'm truly starting to really understand what Michael and Tim Lewis have been talking about this whole time with just this community thing. Um, everybody, everybody is top notch. Everybody is focused on people and everybody's disciplined. And to me, determination is about grit, but mostly it's about determination. I mean, discipline, right? Like what can I do every single day to keep going?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And it doesn't have to be flashy, sexy, or just mean like, Oh, I'm determined. I'm, you know, David Goggins, let David Goggins and Andy Frisella and all them, Jocko be them, right? But you guys out there, be you. And what does determination mean to you? I want you to think of that right now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Because determination to you right now could mean you're in a depressed state and you just getting out and walking 10, 15 minutes is determination. And I want you to give yourself that grace. And then as you get better and you put more habits in place, then the determination level switches, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
But the determination factor is just the amount of guts to keep moving forward when nobody's paying attention, when nobody is clapping, when you just feel like breaking down and crying. Those are the moments you move forward. So again, I just want to thank you guys for coming on the show and giving the audience a massive amount of value and becoming new friends of mine. It means a lot.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And man, I just appreciate it, Jonathan. I really do. High fives. Thank you for your time. You got it, man. Thank you. Until next time, guys, I want you to do one thing. I want you to share this episode with someone you feel needs to hear it. Don't forget to leave some comments on Spotify so I can go in there and reply back to you. And I would love to hear what you guys want me to talk about next.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
But until then, stay determined.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Yeah. What was some of the things that held you back or that, you know, when you start talking about it, right? Because there's a level of fear, right? I would say probably of, okay, I'm in the hospitality business for 20 years. And now this gentleman is saying that I would be great in real estate. What...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
That in between, when you were hesitating, or not even hesitating, before you pulled the trigger, was there some sort of fear or kind of a mindset thing that you were battling with for you?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
I feel like that point right there, like when your alarm goes off and you don't wanna get up and go do the hard shit, right? If we give into that inner voice that says, don't do it, and our brain is wired to keep us safe from anything, right? And it doesn't want to take that risk. It wants to feel comfortable.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
But when we decide to take that move, no matter what we feel emotionally and go do the workout, right? Have the water, have the coffee. And then no matter how bad we feel at that moment right there, we just start moving our body.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And then after 10 minutes, like you forget that you didn't even want to be there. And now your next decision that's supposed to be hard becomes easy because you've already set the tone for the fucking discipline. Yeah. It's so important. Everybody thinks like waking up in the morning, you know, at 4 a.m. and going to the gym is a flex for social media. That's bullshit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
What it is for me, I have three children and a wife. I don't want to take time away from them. I want to knock it out and I want to be able to get to my house by, you know, 6, 6.15, help the kids get out the door, make their breakfast and their lunches and their snacks and all that kind of stuff.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Make my wife's coffee, make sure that the car's packed so she can, you know, take them to school, right? knowing that I've completed more than most people are going to complete their whole fucking day.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
This is awesome. Yeah, it's true. My man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
That's why. It is why. Talk about yourself, man. You know, you have another, like, interesting part of you that I want to highlight, too. You do a lot of cool shit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
I say on the air, you are going to be fucking stuck and not just say it, but feel it in your soul. That is the cheat code.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
The world caught on fire.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
There's a lot of like the adversity, right? There was a lot of starts and stops from what I'm hearing. And what's funny too, and I want to, I want you to go back, but I want to address the audience really quickly. So, you know, we're talking about
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
the whole journey of going into entrepreneurship and leaving corporate America, I think so many people right around the height of COVID did that because it was that reset. It was so unfortunate what happened to so many people, man. Lives were lost. No matter what sub defense you sit on, it still really freaking sucked. No matter how you look at it, it was just a bad time.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
But also it was a time for everybody to kind of reevaluate what they wanted out of their lives. And the one thing I have for you guys watching and listening is simply this. The biggest difference between entrepreneurs and what Julian was asking was the fact that they had a high level belief in themselves.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
You molested as a child. How old were you?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
I can't believe you're here.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Dude, we got connected on Instagram because you made a post and I can't remember what the message was, but I was like, dude, like that's some good ass energy. I want to connect with her. I just hit the like button and said, hey, great message or something. And then what? Six months later, here you are.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
So it was a disassociate.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Kind of like ketamine.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
I love that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Interesting. That's wild. Right. That's wild. Yeah. Because, you know, when, you know, and there's a lot of people that listen to the show, they're probably on health journeys or they're entrepreneurs or athletes or whatever. And a lot of times when we're trying to create new habits, right, we're trying to ditch old ones. Instead of don't eat that, it's like, I don't eat that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
I don't eat sweets, right? And so kind of what you're saying is you went through that same kind of therapy. Like I don't drink alcohol. I don't crave alcohol. It is a good way to rewire your brain. I don't know if it works for chocolate or not, because sorry, spoiler guys, I still love chocolate, you know? But again, for extended period of times, I can tell myself this does not serve me.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
But then one night, any given night, if I have one, I have 15. And I'm not talking beers. I'm talking about like Reese's Pieces.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Like, dude, I get it. I crush them. So, but I get it. You know, it's a, it's an interesting thing. So you, you did that. And then after that, you were good. What, how long ago? That was, you said 13 years ago. Yeah. Okay. Wow.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
It's nuts, isn't it?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Social media can be good.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
And it can be wholesome.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
I love it. And you know, it's so funny because I want to go back to what you said. Motivation is a fickle mistress. I try to convince people of this all the time on the show, right? For the listeners and the viewers, you know exactly where I'm going to go with this. And if it's your first time listener watching, you're welcome. Here it goes. You can walk into a Tony Robbins seminar.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Right? So tell the audience that may not know who you are, give them a little bit of your background, some of the things that you've gone through and what has made you the powerful woman you are now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
You can walk into the most impactful room with a bunch of entrepreneurs and motivational speakers, how Eric Thomas can be playing in your ear on loop for 24-7, 365. Eventually, motivation will fade. The emotion goes away. And what is going to carry you through in those moments is true discipline and determination. People get lost in that middle. They're in the church and they can't see it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
They want that motivation. I need the motivation to go do this. No, you don't. You need to look at the purpose. What's your purpose? What are you chasing? And then go chase that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
You know, our brain is wired to keep us safe, right? So that means we're treating when things get hard. And so this morning, and I talk about this a lot because it happens a lot. I woke up, my neck hurt, my back hurt. I'm like, I really don't want to get up and go to the gym.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
So I got up and I went to the gym. And here's where people are going to misinterpret what I'm saying. So a lot of people feel like, oh, that's hustle culture. No, no.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Telling yourself you have to go 100,000 miles an hour, no matter if your body's about to break or keep going and beating your body into the ground and having zero regard for your physicality and your emotional state, that's hustle culture. Right. But the discipline to say, I'm going to go. I'm gonna walk for about 15 minutes on the treadmill and then I'm gonna see what's next.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Because what happens there is we unlock these checkpoints in our brain, right? Doing the next right thing. So I'm gonna put my shoes on and I'm gonna walk to the door. Then I'm gonna open the door and then I'm gonna get in the truck and then I'm gonna drive to the gym. Then I'm gonna get out of the truck and then I'm gonna get into the gym. Like, you see my point?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
It's all these checkpoints that we do that people need to understand when we do those things, we are building discipline and we are building positive habits. That's what we mean by when you say, when I say, you don't feel like it, do it anyway.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
She's like so many things. So many.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Cool. Good luck with life.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
So what do you say to the people? Cause I, sorry, sorry. I have to ask this before. Don't forget. Don't lose that train of thought. Cause I know you're onto something, but I have to say this cause my ADHD will torch me if I don't. What do you say to the people? Well, that's not self-love.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
How much time do we have?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Love it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
You're cracking me up, Jo, because I have some people in my life, right, that they're always on this journey of, you know, self-improvement. But yet they're the most miserable people I know. Amen. They're down and out. They're like Eeyore from Winnie the Freaking Pooh.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Boom.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
And it's like, okay, you're on this journey, but are you really on this journey? Right. Because here's the problem. People think that watching the YouTube video, reading the book, doing the meditation is the growth. Nah, nah, nah, nah. That's part of it. What real growth is, is identifying the things in your life that are holding you in shackles and then cutting them off.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Too many people are too afraid to cut off the shackles.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
You're here. You go.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Love it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Okay, so I want the audience to really dive into that and think about that. Can you repeat that?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
That is feedback that most people, I'm sure you hated to hear it, right? I'm sure that was like, ugh. Right. But, but did it serve you?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
So what was it about you that wasn't special that you thought was, and then vice versa?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
You can't describe energy, like real energy. Like, you know what I mean? Like we have people in our lives, you know, friends, uh, but energy with my wife, energy you have with your boyfriend, like you can't describe that. It is a true feeling. It is a true feeling. But like, so anyway, go, go on because I know people listening to like energy, like, what does that really mean?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Because some people aren't tuned into it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
you know, in a, in a public area, it's like, you're scared to get caught and it intensifies the moment.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Right. So it's just like, I don't want to equate it to that, but that's the only thing I can really, you know, like, okay, I'm in this relationship. Everything, everything physical is great. It's a rush. I'm going to stay in it, even though emotionally and spiritually it's destroying me.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
You know, are you sure? Dude, okay, hold on. Because I got a bone to pick with the universe a little bit. She's always coming around and slapping me in the back of the head.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Really? Yes. Are you a black belt?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
It's like the moment I feel like things are getting solid. Just like take it. Yes. Let me see what you do with it. Can you stay on your a game? Are you going to react? Are you going to respond? She did that to me three times today. Oh, it was a big day. It was a big day. You know, everything I had going on today. Right. And having this amazing conversation was at the top of that list.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Like in what?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
But the bottom line is I was tested. I was tested, are you going to respond or are you going to react? And it was in multiple areas of my life. The biggest ones wasn't business. That's the thing, right? To your point. So the universe will always come and say like, hey, are you really reformed? Or are you going to go here?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Because if you can push through this uncomfortable moment, now your growth is going to accelerate. And by the way, I went through like, you know, multiple times like texting and I'm like, okay, no, no, erase that. Okay, no, erase, you know, okay. Okay, that's good.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Okay.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
And the funny thing is people that are listening are like, oh no, no, I know what he's talking about. No, you don't. Because if I spoke about it to a person, then it wasn't it. I had to check myself and not speak on it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
So you're a black belt in the other three? Yes.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
And that's a perspective, right? Yes. That's your choice that we get to make every single day. You know, it's funny, but first of all, thank you for caring so much that this is a big deal. Yes. And I can tell you that you are absolutely crushing it. Oh, thank you. Yes. So none of your limiting beliefs last night that were rushing through your mind.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
So you could literally like disassemble me right now. Yes. Piece by piece. Like in Krav, forgive, and if I'm wrong to the audience, I'm not always spot on, but Krav Maga is the one that's usually taught in military for hand-to-hand combat. Is that correct?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
actually real and that's the point to you guys that are listening and watching you're every day gonna go through your mind back and forth there's this constant mental tug-of-war right I'm good enough I'm not good enough but you know what what if I screw up here I did it today right we We all do it. I'm not speaking from a place of like hierarchy here.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
I'm speaking a place of like, I'm a freaking mess. Like I do this too.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
And I'm constantly proven wrong and proven wrong in a good way. Like, okay, I am good enough. I am ready for this. So Sean cut the crap.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Like really just rest on the fact that you are prepared because if you're doing the work in between the micro things that you're talking about earlier in the conversation, like getting up and doing the workout, getting up and doing the hard thing, shooting the show, like talking to the guests, like having great conversations, it all builds up for a moment, right?
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
And you're either ready to execute or you're not. And it's typically because you shut some parts of you down that for me earlier, it was like, am I going to perform well? Am I going to do well at this specific task? Because this is different than anything I've ever done. I chose to suppress that side of me and just go, what like I'm here for a reason. Yes. Like I'm on this for a reason.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
So I'm going to own it. Yep. I'm going to own it. And I can't say the wrong thing to the right person. So.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Yes. Yes.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
I want you to dig into that right there because even if the worst happens, I got me. There's a lot of people out there that can't say that because they don't believe that they do have them. What would you say to that man or woman that truly doesn't feel like they got themselves? Where would you start them?
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Because I know you coach a lot of high performers and a lot of people in general, like this could massively change someone's life.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Mexico, right?
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Cool beans, man.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
And in Mexico, of all places.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
I love that because we all go through these things, right? Whether it's an attachment to money, attachment to the wrong partner, attachment to an identity like a career or being an athlete, right? When we fear losing things, it's because we've wrapped our identity in something else and we've given our power, like you said, to another thing or another person, which leaves us.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
coincidentally, powerless. So of course, how could we ever make it on our own? But when we quickly realize by doing work on our own selves that, wait a second, the power's still here. I can turn it on, but I got to prime the engine a little bit, right? I got to do some work and then I have to choose to believe.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
And then the Muay Thai is like the Anderson Silva, the knees to the face. Right.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
You know, I could dig that, Joe, because I think one of the biggest things, whether, see, it's an identity shift, right? So I did, when I did my TEDx talk, I did it on identity crisis after leaving sports because I truly felt that when I left, you know, college baseball, I was like, I was done. I didn't go pro. And my last game was in the college world series in 2003 in the right field.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
When we lost our, when that last hour recorded, my season was over. I didn't know who I was. I've talked about this a lot. I'm sure you've heard this before from you before, but Over the last year or so, I go, wait a second, this just isn't in athletics.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
This isn't if you're a teacher and you go to a salesperson, or if you're a salesperson and you go to a teacher, or if you're an HVAC technician and now you're the business owner. There's an identity shift there. It's not a crisis. It's only a crisis if you allow it to be, but there needs to be an identity shift. Right. And too many people are getting caught up on the negative aspect of that.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Amazing background. Amazing background. So, okay. So you molested as a child. How old were you?
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Like, well, who am I now? Instead of like, Ooh, wait a second. I get to play a different role. What does that look like?
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You know, how can I, how can I be really good at that? So, you know, bringing the excitement and the perspective to those moments, I think is everything.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
And that's victim. That's victimhood right there. Like you cannot move in that space.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
I think, again, to your point, I want everybody to really dial into this. We're not saying, and she's not saying, I'm not saying that don't sit in those feelings for a little bit. I think it's healthy, too. Like, hey, I'm going to give myself a 10-minute timer. I'm going to drown in my own you-know-what right now, and I'm going to play victim.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
But then after that timer goes off, I'm going to shift.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
See, that's the thing. I think it's the having the, the wherewithal and the confidence level, right. By doing the work on ourselves to be okay. No matter what hits me today, even if the worst thing would happen, I got it. I'll figure it out. I'll figure it out. Everything is, you know, my, my sister-in-law is so funny. We, we have this great connection. Her name is Michelle.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
She's one of my favorite people on this planet. I absolutely love her. I can watch shows with her that I can't watch with my wife. So thank you, Michelle. I love you, sis. You know, but she always says everything is figureoutable. Figureoutable. Like, you know, we can get through anything.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Now, again, there are certain tragedies that I want to be insensitive to that, but just the normal day to day. Like if the worst thing in air quotes were to happen right now, are you ready for it? Can you get through it? Do you have safe falls?
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
My skin is like my hair is on in right now. Like there's no beauty in that.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
I fear that. I fear it in my soul. I fear it in my bones. And it's just something that I don't know if I'll ever get over that.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Because society has taught me one thing. No one's safe from it. It can happen anywhere.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
And, you know, it's a part of a bunch of different, you know, issues in society, whether, you know, people want to say these kids are raised poorly or they're, you know, caught up in social media, they've been bullied, whatever the case may be.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Medicated. On and on. All can be true. All can be true. But my biggest fear is that alone right there. And for that woman that you had the opportunity to meet at your TED Talk, she actually lived it.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
For sure.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Yeah.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Or you perceive that she still has it.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
It's amazing to me how dynamic this conversation is, right? We've talked about a plethora of things and most of them are societal issues. You know, sexual abuse, you know, substance abuse, school shootings. You know, these are all real things that people in society are going through. You yourself have gone through two of the three.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Right? Because we never know, right? We never know. But I'm with you. Chances are she still does have it. Yeah. And I'm like listening to this. And you said four. I... I almost lost it.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
And I just think it's a beautiful conversation because that's what I love about the show is that it's so freaking real, man. Like we are, we have conversations here that, you know, quite honestly, we don't know where they're going to go before the show because I don't script anything. And that's the beautiful part about it. Right.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
And we get to have these conversations like it, there's an aliveness to this part. That good Lord willing, I'll get to the baseball field safely because we never know. And I get to see my kids and I get to coach my son.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
And that is something that if you're a parent and you're asleep at the wheel and you don't see the true value and the opportunity daily that you get, you get to make their breakfast. You get to raise them. You get to have these conversations with them. You get to have these hard moments with them. Because some parents don't get to anymore. It's powerful.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
talk about kids that is that is super easy like you want to see me get choked up talk about safety of children like that that for me like is is it like that that is my on a dime like I can have bipolar emotions I could be here and then you say what about this with kids like oh Boom.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
But I, but I think that that's also a gift of mine because it makes me, you know, with this, I had this conversation earlier on a show was, you know, talk about what, what is real masculinity. You know, some people feel that real masculinity is men should not cry. You know, men crying is, you know, falling to pieces. And if a man falls to pieces, how can he be the warrior of the family?
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Well, I have a six year old daughter and an eight year old daughter. And I cannot even imagine the type of orange jumpsuit I would be in if someone touched any one of my children, even my son. Yeah. Okay. So like, walk, walk me through that. You were four. I don't go through the whole thing, but like, how did, how do you, I mean, how do you remember?
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Like, dude, to me, if I cry, it's usually surrounding my children. Right. Or this this thought of something that did not happen, the fear of something could happen. But but what it does is it recenters me into a warrior that can be present for the family.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
I think it's overlooked.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
It is sad. It's nuts. Yeah. Well, what, what a conversation. Good God. How can the audience find you? How could they, how could they potentially work with you? How could they learn more about you?
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Well, you know, I appreciate you and, you know, it's been a special conversation. You know, uh, I always love every conversation we have on the show. Um, it's great when I get an amazing guest in person, I'm able to connect with them on a different level and have a real open and fruitful conversation.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
So I just want to thank you for that because, uh, when, when those things happen, then the audience wins and people heal and they, and they, they are introduced to another, you know, person that could be in their auditorium cheering them on. And that person is you in this sense. So, I really appreciate you. Thank you so much for coming on.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
It's been an honor to have you here. So good Lord. Audience, I just want to say, please check in with Jo. Go follow her on social media and really dial into what she has going on. She's a truly amazing person or she wouldn't have flown from Nevada, Arizona, wherever she is now. She's jet set. Where are you now? Are you in Arizona?
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
So it's Reno. I thought you were... Why do I think you're in Arizona?
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
See, there it is. I can't keep up with her. I can't keep up with her, but she's an amazing person. And if you listened to this episode and some of the things really resonated with you personally, then please reach out to one of us. You're never alone.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
If in fact, this episode reminded you of somebody that could really use to hear the message, please send it over to them, share it with them and let them know that this conversation could impact their day. So again, thank you for listening. Until next time, stay determined.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
That's like kind of an odd question, but it's like, I can't even formulate it because it's shocking to me.
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What do you do with it?
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
And it's so hard because as a four-year-old, you're not consciously thinking about this.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
You're probably thinking at that age, right? Okay, that's an elder. I'm just going to stay in line here, right? How did that coming to... You know, because you repressed it, right? But in the meantime, you went to modeling, right? You went to modeling for Playboy and you did some reality TV for them and then got out and went to rehab, right? So how does it all connect for you?
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
How can you make sense of all that? Because you didn't uncover it until you were, you know, healing, right? Yeah.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Wow. Wow. And so when you're working through your therapist through, you know, getting sober, like how did the therapist teach you to walk through and kind of peel back the layers of what happened and how do you connect it with some of past behavior? You know, mainly, you know, feeling like, you know, giving up your body, right, or whatever is kind of your service or however you put it.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
How did the therapist help you work through that to help you understand like, no, no, no, that is not where you need to be?
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Because I stumbled through it pretty badly.
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Interesting.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Good Lord. Yeah.
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So he didn't just try to take you out. He like literally tried to sleep with you. It wasn't like he was interested, you know, or approached it the right way. Because I mean, after a couple of years, if he would have asked you or approached you like,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
That's some wild stuff.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
That's wild.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Like, like not even... And again, when there's a role established, like you said, the relationship, right?
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
He's to help heal. And you were here, right? Trying to get here. You can't circumvent those roles in that relationship. Yeah. To me, that is just a lack of... I don't know what, it's just a lack of common sense to be quite honest. I mean, I'm just going to say it like, that's just not cool.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
But I mean, it would have been at least a little bit better if he approached you respectfully, like it wouldn't have caused that damage. So talk to me about that damage.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
It was coming, right? It's like, it wants to come out and party. It wants to peek its head.
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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode. I am your host, Sean French, and today I have with me an amazing human being. But before I get to her, please hit subscribe on YouTube, follow on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and let us know what you think. And more than anything, share the show with somebody you know, love, and trust that would really need to hear this message.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
From that point when you had that relapse because of that, well, that, that really, it was like the straw that broke the camel's back. That's what you call it, right? How, how long was the relapse or how, whatever you, how long did that go for?
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Were these men or women?
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
A lot of victims in the comment section. A variety. Sure.
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You heard it, ladies and gentlemen. If you're going to go all in, get locked up in a mental institution in San Francisco, Bay Area in California. The weather there is better.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Pacific Ocean, you don't even need a bridge. Oh, nice view then.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
No wonder you liked it. So, I mean, but again, I think, let me speak to the audience really quickly because I think what's great here for you guys listening and watching is I want you to really understand the story that is going on right now, coming from a place of power and not victimhood, a place of accountability and storytelling for you guys, right?
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
You know, whatever you're going through, you're not alone. There's people that have become massive successes like Joe here that have been through some stuff. So continue to listen and see what you can get out of this. Because again, you know, like this is all informational. This is good stuff. I love it. I'm not surprised.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
I knew, I knew we'd start going here, you know, get, get the juices flowing. Okay. So, okay. In San Francisco. All right. You, like you said, been in jail multiple times. You've been in facilities. Like what was the fight back? Like, because that had to have, you've had to have displayed an extreme amount of determination in order to rise up out of that type of space.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Really?
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Right. What made you the worst?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
So today I have with me an expat, a TEDx speaker, former Playboy model, the amazing Joe Weatherford. What's up?
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Right. Of course.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Okay, no, interesting.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
Awful. So you went through a treatment that created an aversion to what you were addicted to.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
That's a Wednesday for me, guys. That's hump day.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
I need one for chocolate. I feel like. Yeah, right.
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Nothing.
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How Jo Weatherford Rewired Her Brain After Trauma and Addiction
So what was the science behind that? Because I mean, that's pretty aggressive, right?
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
No, it was some version of it, but you're fine. Whatever, man. Hey, we're not perfect here, guys. We just keep moving. So I apologize for that. I do know your name. I do know your name. It's fine. I've already fucked up, guys. Here we go. But dude, it's so nice to meet you. You know, we're here for this amazing event. You're actually the stage sponsor, correct?
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
But that's amazing. That's like consistent growth. Right. And I want to I don't want to overlook your grandfather. Like, I would appreciate that because I lost all my grandparents when I was younger. Right. And, you know, I mean, look, man, like nothing is better than a grandparent, dude.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
It's valuable. I think everybody for the audience, I just want you guys to listen and to this point is look back in your life about that one mentor that you had. It could have been a grandparent, could have been a friend or your parents. It's like the value that they bring is truly tremendous because there's been mentors in my life that I don't think I would be where I'm at.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Even the adversaries, I wouldn't be where I'm at right now if those things didn't take place. And I always like to value the past. Right. Instead of, you know, I guess bringing shame about the past of the stupid shit I used to do or.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Cool. So, you know, let's talk about the event first, about what led you to become a stage. That's a pretty big thing. Did you believe in the mission? What spoke to you?
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It's part of the growth journey, right? And if it, and I think a lot of times when people fail or they get egg on their face and go, oh my God, look at me, poor me. This is victim bullshit. When they really need to look at it.
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We could, but we could, right? But this all gives insight to who you are and how you built your company. And the thing is, is when we focus on the past and the mistakes that we've made and the failures that we've made in our businesses, right? no matter how big or small, we start to realize those are the moments that we grow into these amazing entrepreneurs. It's not the wins that take us there.
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It's all those micro failures in between.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Yep. Yep.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Yeah, man.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
I love that, dude. It's a great point because as you're speaking, I'm thinking of all those moments when I was super immature in building this show. So I was doing this, I did this all on me. I think there's a big component of me, but it's like there have been people strategically placed in my path every single stage. And it was up to me to embrace that. But they created space for me.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
When I met Michael Little and Tim Lewis, when we were hanging out with Eric Thomas in Traverse, Michigan, I was just going there to meet a friend. I was going there to meet Eric. And here they come in. And we just said like, hey, are you meeting E.T. as well? Yeah. And we sat down and this whole event was birthed. Like, so for me, it's like, no, I didn't do everything together.
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I didn't do everything on my own. Like he and I built something and then he ran with it.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
you know, having great relationships and leveraging those relationships in a respectful way. Right. Yeah. And doing things together. But I always say like, you know, you're only as good as your circle. Everybody says that. And if you have a powerful circle that just are a bunch of get shit done type of people, you're going to, you're going to excel because of that. Right. But I want to go back.
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I don't want to, you know, I want to say to that point though. Yeah.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Like with your grandfather, does that bring... It's a little nostalgic.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
But I think also to like to your point about that is it's important to understand it, not just from a knowledge standpoint. It's important. It's important to understand all of it. So you can be dangerous enough to send people that way.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Yes, exactly. Yeah. It's how you build a massive business, right? And, you know, I'm reading a book right now called Go-Giver. It's a really good book.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
So I'm not a fan of reading books. Don't get it twisted. My buddy, David Waldy sent it to me randomly. Just, you know, kind of out of the, I said, Hey, what's your address? I sent it to him and in comes two books and one of them is go giver. I'm like, Hmm, beautiful. So I'm like, I have to read this, but typically I'm not a big reader either. You know, I probably should do it a lot more. Yeah.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
But my mind, like if I'm at home and just sitting there, I feel like I'm not doing anything. So after my workout, if I can squeeze it in before the kids wake up or on a weekend or something like that, I'll, I'll crack it open a little bit. But, but yeah, I actually get better about it. Yeah, it did me too. All right. You heard it. Matt and I are going to read more. That's my goal for 2025.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Just read more. That's easy. To be fair, yeah, if you started zero, one books. Boom. Crushed it. Yeah. 100% approval. All right. It's freaking fantastic. I want to talk about your specific company because I know when I did some research on your company, there's a lot of talk about technology and innovation, right?
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Yeah. I've noticed that about him. I met him in July and he's just, yeah, he's my kind of people, man. What I think is awesome. Cause you and I were talking off air about, you know, social media, you know, instant gratification of society and everybody wants something now, now, now. And there's a lot of competition in the world. Right. And I fully believe we don't live in a competitive world.
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How has that played a part in helping the consumer not be surprised by closing statements, et cetera, and how has it made those relationships for you better?
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It's intimidating.
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Yeah, I want to, yeah. There's nothing worse than like, as a, as a, you know, as a buyer or the seller, like, okay, I'm, if it's a refi, I'm getting this much back at closing. Like I'm getting, oh, okay, cool. It's 70 grand back at closing. And you need that 70 grand for something. Maybe a down payment on another home. And then you get your final closing statement and you're getting 40.
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And now you're like, oh my God, or not. That's pretty extreme.
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And this is something that a lot of people are going to listen to the show or watch it on YouTube and be like, what the fuck is he about to say?
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We live in a co-creative world and it's somebody's choice every single day. Are you going to compete or are you going to co-create? And you and Michael decided to co-create together. That says a lot about how he feels about you and how you feel about him. What are your thoughts there?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Of course there is.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, I love it. And again, I want to clarify for the audience and even just with you, when I say we don't live in a competitive environment- I don't mean that there's not competition and there's not other people out there competing.
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What I mean is if we focus on the co-creation part of it, right, and we focus on the processes and what we're trying to grow in our businesses and our culture, right, within the business and our standards and everything like that, when we always rise to the standards and the processes every single day, we're gonna beat the competition Nine out of 10 times. Because you know why?
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Wait a little bit and then proceed and respond how you, how you feel you really need.
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Yeah, man. Well, look, dude, it's, I've really enjoyed having you on the show, talking about your company and your mindset and your disciplines on how you built this whole thing. I think it's an interesting story. And I know the audience has gotten a ton out of it. I want to ask you one more question before we shut this bad boy down. What does determination mean to you?
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45 minutes, yeah.
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I love it. And for the audience, you guys always hear me say discipline is not and determination is not this gritty, fighting, scratching and clawing social media definition of being determined. Right. It's not running 17 miles every day. That's just idiotic on your body.
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We know they're there. We respect them, but we don't think about them. We think about what we're doing right here.
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Exactly. I think it's just super important for everyone to understand what determination means is that you are getting up and doing the work, executing your process, even when your emotions are telling you not to. Your emotions, at any point in time when you're building something, you can feel them, lean into them, but still move forward a little bit.
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Your 100% isn't going to be the same every day, right? Nope.
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You have to. It's interesting because in sports, you grew up playing baseball and at 14, you specialized in hockey. Then you played college hockey up in Boston where you got your college degree.
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More often. Probably good for me.
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100%.
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I love it, dude. I love it. And we're going to end on that. To everybody that has listened to this show, go check out my boy's company. It'll be in the show notes. Click on it. Just learn a little bit more about him. And if you know a buddy in the Virginia beach area that's buying or selling a house, noble title and escrow, please hit them up. And until next time, guys, stay determined.
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Anything in Virginia? Let's go. I said Virginia Beach, but whatever. The whole damn state. Yeah. Oh, my boy. You got questions, reach out. Yeah. See ya.
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You played, right? And you got to see three world championships, by the way. That's pretty fucking cool, man. That's pretty dope. Nothing like working at 18 and 6 a.m. for a championship. Yeah, exactly, right? It's like, maybe I should go to class, but I'm going to do this anyway.
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Yeah. So I just think it's really cool when you talk about that competitive spirit that you have as a young child and adolescent and going into college. How do you feel that competitiveness has helped you grow your business?
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Yeah.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Dude, it's great, man, because there's a lot of fuel, right? I always say when someone tells me that I can't do something, I remember when I started, people laughed.
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They laughed. They laughed at me, man. Yeah. And I think some people still are, but now they're mad because they were wrong, right? Yeah. But I did not... I think at first it bothered me, Matt, you know, like it really, it really truly did. But then I realized that if I just focus on what I'm doing and what I'm building and the purpose of why I'm doing it, I'm not going to hear it.
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I won't hear it. And it's funny. You know, we hit it off off camera, and now we're having this great conversation. You were the last line of defense. You were a goalie. I was a catcher.
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See? Amazing. We got a bromance going on in here. So it's like behind the plate, you know, in the SEC, like, dude, I remember one time at Alex Box Stadium, the old Alex Box. Yeah. We tore it down and turned it into a fucking parking lot. Midweek game.
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Even in our midweek games, we had about 8,000 people there at a college baseball game on a Wednesday playing like Shreveport or some crazy stuff or Loyola in New Orleans. Pop up behind the dish. All right. I missed it. I missed it. They're not easy. Like, potlucks, those are not game easy. You got to take the basket off. You got to find it. You got to find it.
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You got to, you know, backspin, wind, everything, right? You got to make sure you get your back to the, you know, the field and be in a good position. And the amount of, oh, and the whole stadium, it's like, I'm going to tell you, I could block a lot of things out. I could not block that out. I heard that, man. That was loud. Yeah. Yeah.
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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I am your host, Sean French. Today, as you can see, we're in a different location. We're at Iron Valley Real Estate here in Norfolk, Virginia for the Determine Your Destiny Tour. I'm super excited to announce today's guest.
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2020.
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Yeah.
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No, you can't.
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That's the thing. It's like the initial thing, right, that you did is you reacted. And I've done it too. It's human nature. Why are they copying, man? Go get your own stuff. And then I'm like, wait a second. They're copying, and I guess there's a quote out there, like, you know, what is it? When someone copies you, it's the best form of flattery or something like that. Yeah. Something like that.
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And now it's like.
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Thank you. Thank you. See, guys, he's on it, man. He's on it. So that's my point is, like, I want as many people to copy me as they want.
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And, in fact, I'm at the point where I will give them all the secrets. I will tell them exactly how to grow their show. I don't care.
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Yeah, here's the playbook. It's about five or six things. Go for it.
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Hey, stay consistent, right? And so consistency is big, right, in sports and in entrepreneurship especially. I want, if you can, I want you to walk everybody through the start and the launch of Noble Title and Escrow in 2020 and how you guys have leaned on technology innovation.
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Before I do that, though, if it's your first time listening to the show, please hit subscribe on Apple, Spotify, and YouTube. Go check it out. Leave a comment. Leave a review. I want to know what you think. Today, I have the president and CEO of Noble Title and Escrow here in Norfolk, Virginia, my man, Matt Cantrell. Nice to meet you, buddy.
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Yeah.
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Dude, I'm jacked to have you. You're just a handsome son of a bitch. Look at you.
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It's amazing, man. There was growing pains. Dude. And that was an interesting time. Cause I don't know how it was up here in real estate, but in Florida, it fucking boom.
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yo listen up if you run an e-commerce business you already know shipping is a beast when i released my book i thought the hard part was done until i spent hours every day printing labels boxing products and standing in line at the post office that's when i realized my time is way too valuable shipstation changed everything it lets you automate your shipping print branded labels from home
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But I would not be where I am without that, man. Like, you know, I always had the level of determination, discipline deep rooted within me. But that dude brought it out in me, man. He showed me how to work, right? He showed me. And, you know, the one thing like you I look at is like I understand it now. You know, like now I can have a better relationship with him.
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Not anymore, man. It took me years to let it go, Edgar. I swear to you. It was like, fuck you, let me show you.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
But he was just trying to make me aware. Like, look, dude. Like, all you really have right now is baseball. What happens when it's done? And I always tell him, I was like, well, I have a good personality. I can talk to people. I was like, I ain't going to pay you.
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Here we are. But he didn't know that wasn't a thing back then, right?
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Wild, bro. Wild.
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He was. Yeah. I just, I guess my question that before I got, you know, emotional, it was, um, how has the relationship with your mom, right. For what it is. And the fact that you didn't have your dad around, how has that impacted how you've become a parent and how you operate?
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Sharp French, what up?
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So your mom lost her mom when she was 11 due to cancer.
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So she didn't have that mother nurturing. Not at all. That's why she didn't know how to give birth.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
That's who she is, man. She ain't changing now.
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Yeah, exactly. And you're here.
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Good, man.
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Because of the military, right, of course.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
I bet, dude. So let's talk to the audience and I want to address the audience really quick because that's a great point. Like when we build something and we start a new career or entrepreneurial journey, like I don't care what anybody says, like real estate agents do, they are entrepreneurs, right? Now they're not selling their own product, right?
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But they are, they, they, they eat what they kill, man. Like that is the, that is the true definition of entrepreneurship, right? Yeah. Um, but, but guys, it's, it's not going to be this quick escalation of success. You know, you cannot expect, you know, I always, I said this to somebody the other day, I was like, it's not the easy bake oven, man. It's not the easy bake oven to success.
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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. Before I introduce today's amazing guest, I want to invite you to hit the subscribe button on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts. Leave a written review after I've earned it. Would love to hear your feedback on what you enjoy about the show.
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And he died laughing. He's like, did you make that shit up? I was like, I did. But everybody wants that quick, I'm going to be a realtor, I'm going to sell a house within a month. It just doesn't work like that.
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You got to be more of a consultant, right? Like be able to like, now when you speak to somebody, like, Hey, are you working with a lender? Have you been pre-qualified? Do you know what your budget is? Right. What's the top end? What's the low end? What are you looking for?
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Yeah, so like now if someone said, hey, I got $200,000 in the bank. I'm ready to buy it. All right, cool. Hey, so I'm going to go. Tell me what you want. I'm going to find it within a day or two, and then we're going to go buy a house, right? Yeah, yeah. Hey, look. Well— Well, no. Are you ready to buy?
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Boom. See ya. Let's get this thing going.
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, but like, but that's the thing, right? As you build those skills, you didn't have those first six months, probably didn't have in the first year. But as you start to elevate your education and your knowledge over the next year or so, year two, those things start to happen, right?
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You get in a better cadence, you get in a better, you know, pattern of conversation with people, you know what I mean? And it starts to grow pretty quickly at that point.
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And for something that you want to hear more of, please send me an email, sean.french at The Determined Society. And don't forget, guys, share the episode with someone you know, love and trust, who will get a lot out of this conversation. So today I have with me Edgar Munoz. He is from Iron Valley Real Estate Prestige here in beautiful Virginia.
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Yep. Yep. Your mom was just trying to survive, dude. Yeah. It wasn't a thing where she didn't want to be around you. No. You know what I'm saying? She was trying to support me. Yeah, she was trying to support you. You know, your dad and her split, and, you know, like, that's life, and she had to do what she had to do, man.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah, man, specialty loans, like whatever it takes, right? Then they have like the USDA loans. They have like the VA loans.
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Pay off the, and boom, qualified.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Is that your favorite thing about real estate? Seeing people win? Hell yes.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
And we're going to have an amazing conversation and hear about his story. Welcome to the show, bud.
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Yeah, man.
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It's so funny because I'm the same way. I mean, dude, I do have a nice vehicle, right?
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I have a TRX. It's my dream car.
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You got throwing some hydros on that?
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But no, like, so I drive a nice vehicle, right? We have a nice house. But like, for me, like, you know, these are my nicest pair of shoes. You know, I don't wear, and people say like, hey, dude, like, when are you going to get a Rolex? When are you going to get a Breitling? I go, never. Never? I, cause like, dude, like, honestly, like I just not, it's just not me.
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Like I could, I could have $5 million in the bank account and this is not me. I would rather like spend on experiences with my family or put it back into my show and go on more road trips and interview interesting and amazing people. Cause what I found is a lot of the, you know, the A-list people will, will want to be interviewed, but like you got to go to them. Like that's awesome.
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It's a pleasure, man. It's been great to get to know you the last couple days. Yeah. Being here, you know, you came after my emotions with your San Francisco sweatshirt yesterday. Who do you follow? I'm a Niner fan, dude. Yeah? Yeah. Well, I mean, I grew up there. I grew up in the East Bay.
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Like that's an experience.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
I mean, Michael Burt did say he rinses jet sometimes. So like I might be, I might have to take my team on the jet one time, you know, but like it just like that kind of stuff. Like for me, like I'm not a big flashy dude. I'm just some dude from Concord, California that grew up in the fucking ghetto that used to have to run home. So he didn't get his ass kicked by the, by the bloods.
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I mean, I was a dork, dude. Okay. One of the hyper colored shirt, you know, the one that changed colors or the turtleneck shitty ass mullet. And then like the vanilla ice lines. Oh, wow. Yeah, bro. I mean, like I look back, I said to my parents, I'm like, Why'd you let me do that? But no, but that's the thing, man.
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When you come from humble beginnings, like we, you know, and I didn't realize that I grew up in the ghetto when I was growing up in the ghetto. Right. I knew that there were some seriously dangerous people at my middle school. And even that was life, but that was just life, man. That's just how we had to deal with it back then.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Like that don't, it's funny. Like I remember one time I got, I, I, after school, fifth grade, this guy, Ken Coruban, God rest his soul. He passed, I think probably, I don't know how long ago. But, you know, he was in that life, you know. He was a fighter, man. He was the toughest kid in school. He could throw hands.
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And he ended up, you know, spending time in San Quentin, which is like one of the dangerous prisons on the planet. And, you know, ended up, I don't want to say how he passed. I think it was self-inflicted. But probably maybe six, I don't know, six years ago. And it was sad. You know what's happened? I remember one time in fifth grade, I got in a fight with my good friend, Brandon O'Shea.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
What's up, Brandon? We got in a fight. Remember that shit, dude. Remember that shit. And, um, you know, he called my, my girlfriend a dog, right? He's like, Oh, and it turned out like he actually had a crush on her. Right. Want me to break up with her. Her name was Jacqueline. I can't remember. I can't remember her last name. My wife, coincidentally, my first girlfriend name was Jacqueline.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
My wife, his name is Jacqueline. Damn Jackie's bro. Get me. So, um, we ended up squaring up.
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at uh you know in fifth grade and i hit him once and you know his nose bled and it was really cold right so i got blood all over my sweatshirt yeah and i go into my teacher i'm terrified i'm gonna sweat my sweat my sweat like me and brandon got in a fight i'm sorry like whatever we need to do like i've got blood all over me and um you know that day
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you know started circling around fifth grade that king caruba wanted to beat my ass because he saw he's like oh you knocked now you're a threat now i'm going to show you where you're at and so i remembered i was so terrified right waiting for that i ran to like my car like my mom my dad and i thought my mom was picking up right and my dad i ran the car he's like why are you running
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I'm like, just go, go, go, go. And King Karuban comes up. He goes, is that dude trying to fight you? I go, get the fuck out of the car. I go, uh-uh. He goes, get the fuck out. Trust me. And I got out. And Ken's like, let's go. I'm like, why? And then it never happened. It never happened. Right. It never happened. But like, I'll never forget that. Like, you know, my dad was like, get out.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
You're going to, you're going to face this. And I didn't realize then is it's, it's a gift. Right. You know?
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah, dude, it was chaotic. It was at the gym, right? Was it at Iron Asylum last night? Yes, it was. What an amazing gym, by the way.
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You don't remember anything.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
great alvin alvin and kyle are stand-up dudes i love their partnership because they're so different they just complement each other so well um you know in this the gym like you know there's big box gyms nothing against them right but you know these these individuals they have four locations and they want their people to show up they they price it at such a great price at 39 a month and
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14.
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just taking care of myself right like i'm gonna walk myself to the hospital and they're gonna put this tooth back in my mouth and it doesn't cost money by the way like it's a freaking lego right like dude this is this is interesting and so the audience right now is probably thinking like how does this apply well it applies one billion percent to what he does now and why he's so successful so tie the two together right that life to what you do now yes so the the fear okay the fear okay though even in the military i work with weapons those things could blow up i could die yeah
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Well, because here's the thing, dude, like I love that. I love what you're saying right now because people feel, well, I don't hold on. They attach an emotion to a task. Yes. It needs to be an emotionless move. Like, you know, if I have something that I think that you would benefit from, I have to remove the emotion from it. I would say, Hey Edgar, look, dude, I can help you with this.
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Are you interested in talking about it? And you say, no, I go, okay, well, is it not alignment or you just, is this a bad time? Yeah. It's not a good time. When's a better time. Yeah. And you know, it's like, just, just get removed. Yeah.
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If you called me randomly, hey, French, what's up, man? I saw you were looking at some properties. How can I help you? Wait. How do you know my name?
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Who is this? Oh, this is so-and-so from Iron Valley Real Estate. Why did you call me French? And then you would say, I don't know, man. It's just me.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
And it's a trainer's gym, dog.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
No, and I wouldn't want you to. But my point is, if one of these people trying to get my business, when I answer the phone, This is Sean French. What's up? Like, I'd be like, dude, okay. Like, even if I don't know this person, they already know me. Right. So I just think that's a more authentic way to handle something. Now, again, guys, don't be calling your prospect like, yo, McGinnis, what's up?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
But like, if you, it has to flow well.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
That's one of the things that drives me crazy though, dude, to be honest with you is like, is the, is the other end of it, right? Like we live in a day and age of technology. Like, like when these people on Instagram try to, you know, get my business, like you look at my page, what do I do? Yeah. Podcast, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
They'll send me a message. Hey man, do you have a podcast? Delete. Like, are you that lazy? Are you that lazy? So we live in a world where you could literally pretty much find almost everything about me. They go in and type in, in the search engine, in Google, Sean French, the determined society. It'll give you everything. So- Chat GPT me. It'll give you everything. Show me effort.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Of course not. I mean, it's 25,000 square feet. It's kind of really hard to fill up. Man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
massive dog but no so um that was fun last night but yeah like listen man i i totally understand you know it was chaotic there we were moving and i think we've been moving in like nine million directions since thursday when we got here but but dude no yeah i'm from i grew up in uh conquer california okay i was born in walnut creek and um yeah i grew up a niner fan man
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Why would I leave what I own to go be a number somewhere else and build your rampart?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
A hundred agents, dude. Let me ask you a question, man, as we kind of, you know, dive into the end of the show. And by the way, it's been amazing having this conversation with you. I love real life conversations, learning about people, but also tying in how that upbringing, like your mom, your dad, you know, the fighting, how it made you the entrepreneur that you are now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
I think that's fricking so interesting. And I just hope that people are out there listening right now. It's like, well, if he's done it, then why can't I? Right. But the last question I want to ask you is, well, one of the last questions is this is the determined society, right? And I created this platform because my dream and my wish is to wake up in a society that people chase.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
They were determined to chase their dreams and their goals, no matter how they felt emotionally every day. So no matter what, they were going to move just a little bit towards that goal. What does determination mean to you?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
that's all it is the daily task you're doing today is for that future accomplishment you want to get to so don't focus on the angle that you're not going to make it no just focus on finishing that day up I love it dude and that's a great point man and for the audience listening it's like if you feel like quitting I heard this somewhere I wish I could cite where I heard it's not my it's not proprietary I always preface that because I don't want people to say like he took that for me like hey I heard that over there it's not mine
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Like, that was a Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Brent Jones, and Roger Craig era.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
But like, if you feel like quitting, just finish that one day.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Quit tomorrow. Make that decision tomorrow. Quit tomorrow. And then the next day, if you still feel like quitting, finish that day. Right? Because I cannot tell you, there's been multiple times where I've wanted to stop.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
It's well, it's, it's called an assault bike. Well, and that's what it looked like.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Because she's like, I can do hard things. I did this salt bike. I can finish this. And as much as people want to think nothing, that's not connected. It is.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
You leave it on the table, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Just keep going. Yeah. No, I, I adore her. She reached out to me, um, you know, prior to me coming and, Oh, okay. Tag me in some stories. And I'm like, I like this person, you know? Yeah. I just think that she's going to be a star for you for sure. And you can tell she's in a growth pattern right now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
You got some bipolar disorder going on. You had Niner colors.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
And it's a beautiful thing to see, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
I love it, man. I love everything you guys are doing here. You guys are movers and shakers. You guys are my people. And this has been such an enriching experience to be up here in Norfolk and Virginia beach, to get to know every one of you guys. Like you guys have it figured out. Like you guys are grinders. You do what you need to do. Super disciplined.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
And you guys are taking everything that you learned in the service as far as deadlines and systems. And you're bringing it over here to the community. And I just, I just tell you, man, I, I just am so freaking impressed by all of you. That's no doubt. Like no bullshit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
We went from yesterday. I think the first show was at 830 and we didn't wrap until 1015 last night.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Nine shows in two days.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
On my team, Grit Media.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
My wish for every show is that they have somebody like them.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Like they, you know, they're, they're, they're my people, man, their family. And yeah, so get, get you got someone like them or get them.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Oh yeah, absolutely.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Well, dude, thank you so much. I appreciate you, Edgar. Listen, guys, I want to remind you to hit subscribe, YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts. We grow the show and we get to do amazing things like this because of you guys watching and pouring into the show and letting us know what you want to hear. So please share the show with someone you know, love and trust, like I asked at the beginning.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Dude, scariest shit ever. I'm going to tell you something. So back in junior college baseball, I was at Los Madonnas College. I was my first JUCO. And part of the requirement there is you had to fundraise. But one of the ways we fundraised is we didn't go door to door for shit. But we were going to Raider games and being the event staff. Oh, okay.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
And don't forget to leave a review. I want to hear what you think. But until next time, guys, stay determined.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Shout out French, what up?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
I thought I was going to lose my life one day, dude. So, you know, imagine, you know. That's the old stadium. Bro, in Oakland, right? Gone, yeah. In Oakland, yeah. And so, you know, we would go and they would brief us and we'd have the stupid-ass jacket on that no one respects. The moment someone sees an event staff guest, they're like, let's fuck with this guy, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
So one day I was placed on the third deck. And it was miserable. It's hot up. It was hot. And you're always like, hey, you can't be on the railing. Hey, you can't do this.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
And like you said, Raider fans are not like 49er fans or Cowboy fans or they're like, you don't want to mess with these people, dude, right? I mean, they... They could have been just out of San Quentin. You don't know. You don't know about those people. Sorry to profile Oakland Raider fans. Well, they're in Las Vegas now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
But, dude, God, man, it was scary. So this one time, there was this guy. He was just, like, on the railing and, like, just spilling his beer. I was like, hey, man, can you? I was like, listen, dude, I don't really want to be here, man. And I'm not here to tell you what I get. But I'm going to get kicked out of here if I don't say, hey, can you please remove yourself from here? Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Just spilling beer everywhere, dog. Like, cool, have a good time. Back up a little bit. Like, whatever. I can't control it. But like, can you help me out? Hey, man, no problem. And he kind of looked at me. It was like, no problem. But it was like, there's a problem. I'm like, oh, that kind of brother fucker, dude, this is not going to be good.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
So then like 20 minutes later, a female was doing the same thing. She had, you know, like she wasn't fully dressed and, you know, I didn't see, I didn't, I looked and I'm like, And I was like processing through my mind. I'm like, okay, I tell her to move now. And I went like this to tell her to move. The guy goes, you piece of... Oh, because she's hot? Because she's a girl?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
You're not going to tell her to move? I'm going to whoop your ass. I'm like... Oh my God. I'm like, dude, I'm like, no man. I was just telling, I'm like, whatever. And so like, I had to like, like they literally had to move me spots. Cause this guy was really wanting to fight me.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Bro, it's crazy. And then, and then one time I worked the end zone or the, they call it the black hole, the black hole. Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
With the A's and the Giants?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
It's like the L.A. Dodgers and the San Francisco Giants. Remember that guy that got beat up so bad he's like a vegetable? I don't know if he's still alive or whatnot, but he was at the game, I think, with his family.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
I mean, come on.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah. I mean, come on. What are you doing here? And you're tough? I can't take you seriously with all that makeup on your face. Dude, seriously. My uncle's a Raider fan. I'm like, dude, you're pretty vanilla, dog. Like, what are you doing, man? Really? What the fuck's going on? You got some high heels in your fricking closet.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Um, but no, dude, but so, so catch the audience up on who you are, you know, you know, obviously you're a veteran. Um, talk about your journey and how it led to real estate.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
OK.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah. Oh.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Wow.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
How was that for you? When you say culture shock, though, because I get it, right? It's not a good or a bad thing. It just is.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
But what was that experience like and how did you adjust to it?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Right, right, right, right. The identity isn't quite matching where you're at yet.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
What was the point of contention with you and your mom, if you don't mind me asking?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yes, of course.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Okay. Wow.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Okay.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
That's that's amazing, dude.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
you know, let me ask you a question, man, because, you know, obviously we have different stories, but you know, my mom has always been around. Um, I didn't have a father figure in my life until I was nine.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
And, um, me and my, he's my dad. Like I, that's my dad. Right. I mean, we've had our shit, you know, we've gone years without speaking. And in fact, we recently reconnected again in September and I'm taking it for what it is, man. You know, I still need my dad. I need my daddy. You know, it's like, you know, I've always, um, It's been hard, right? Because we've disagreed on a lot of stuff.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
No, man, you're good, bro. Hey, you're on a roll, man. I absolutely love you, bro. Like, here's the thing, dude. You know, you're saying all, you're telling your story. And the one thing that I want to point out to the audience, man, because I always like to talk to them during the shows, right? Because I want them to connect. So a lot of people think it's motivation and none of it is.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
He's also an author, an amazing husband and a philanthropist. I have my boy, Jeremy Anderson, with me. What's up, dawg?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
None of it is. Ich weiß, dass sie dich als motivierender Redner nennen. Und, weißt du, manchmal sagen Leute, Sean ist ein guter Motivator. Ich bin kein guter Motivator. Ich erzähle nur meine Geschichte. Und ich sage dir was, ich bin kein sehr motivierter Individuum. Ich meine, straight up, es gibt Momente von Motivation. Verstehe mich nicht falsch.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Wenn mir eine Idee schlägt, bin ich gespannt, ich bin motiviert. Aber was mich durchbringt, ist Disziplin. And what I want, what I'd like for you to do is talk to the audience on the difference of how you see motivation versus discipline, because to me they're two different things. Because like, for instance, Someone comes to your event in Atlanta in June, right? I'll be there, can't wait.
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He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
We got a special gift for you audience, so make sure you hang out and wait to listen and then also check the show notes. But, you know, the bottom line is, I can go there and I can watch all these amazing speakers. And I can be so motivated at that point. Then I get on the flight and something happens, me and my wife get in an argument, right? Or something happens to one of my kids.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Where did that motivation go? It's gone. So what? Most people shut down at that point. anstatt mit dem, was sie sagten, zu folgen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Man, it's just good to see you, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
This ain't a bad Friday. I get to hang out with one of my brothers and have a great conversation and just talk, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Talk to me, brother. So, don't be physically strong and mentally weak. That to me resonates, right? Because, you know, we can be physically strong and we can look a certain way. But if our mind is mush and we don't push ourselves and if we give in to too many victimhood, too much victimhood mentality, somebody else's fault or whatever, like the...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Dein Mindset ist das einzige, was du eigentlich kontrollieren kannst. Und für diejenigen von euch, die gerade hören und sagen, nein, weil ich meinen Job verloren habe, ich kann meinen Mindset nicht kontrollieren, mein Leben ist schrecklich. Na, was, wenn du deinen Job verloren hast, weil Gott dir zeigen will, dass es etwas anderes für dich gibt? Ich gebe jemandem einen sehr einfachen Beispiel.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Nein, es ist eine Ehre, Mann. Danke, dass du so großartig und aufgeregt bist. Die Gefühle sind mutuell, mein Freund. Absolut. Man, ich habe einfach, du weißt, es ist einer dieser Dinge, wo ich so viel über meinen Gästen weiß, dass ich immer aufrufen muss, weil mein Publikum es nicht genau weiß. Also für diejenigen, die Jeremy Anderson nicht kennen,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Okay. You're on the interstate and you have somewhere to be. And all of a sudden there's an accident in front of you. Or you're late. Maybe, here's a better one. Because this happens. You know this. You live with a woman. You live with kids. They'll make you late for stuff, man. Hmm. Hmm. Facts. Facts. And I think a lot of people...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
It's just the thing, man. Before we hopped on the call, I got word that I didn't get a certain gig that I thought I was going to get. And I looked at it. Ich habe gesagt, ich wette. Gut. Lass sie jemand anderes für das wählen. Das ist in Ordnung. Es war nicht der Raum, in dem ich geblieben sein sollte. Es ist okay. Ich werde nicht lügen. Initiale Knallschmerzen-Reaktion. Low-Level-Sean-Kickson.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Seriously? Come on. What the heck, man? This sucks. I really needed to do this. This is a great opportunity. Hold on. It wasn't for you. Shift. Und ich denke, dass es so wichtig ist, und ich weiß, dass viele Leute vielleicht hören, hey, ich kann das einfach nicht tun. Ich kann das einfach nicht tun. Na dann starte klein. Starte klein.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Wenn du das nicht auf einem massiven Niveau tun kannst, dann starte mit einer Sache, die du kontrollieren kannst. Just one thing. Like, get up and go for a walk. What people don't understand is everything's connected, right? And the biggest thing, where you find peace, this is my opinion, right? This is for me. And I want to hear what you have to say too.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
But I find I can achieve peace when I'm living right. And that is very, very broad. So I'm going to break it down. It's called alignment. So when I think of Wenn ich zu den Gästen komme und Gott mich zu einem Mann vorstellen wird, dann werde ich sagen, wer ist das? Er sagt, das bist du, das ist die Vision, die ich dir geschaffen habe. Du erkennst ihn nicht? Das schmerzt mich.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Why don't you give them a little bit of a background on kind of how your story started, where you came from and to lead you to where you are now?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Es schmerzt mich so schlimm, richtig? Also für mich, was ist das höhere Selbst? Was will ich aus diesem Leben? Was ist mein Zweck? Ich fühle, mein Zweck war das. Mein ganzes Leben, ich kann zu all walks of life sprechen. Es ist egal, ob du ein Bauernlehrer bist, ein Arzt, ein unabhängiger Mensch. Es ist egal. Ich konnte etwas Relatives finden, um eine Konversation mit jemandem zu haben.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Und als ich 42 wurde, habe ich das Mikrofon gefunden. Wow.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
sloppy sloppy and look I was talking about my show was called the determined society right and we had great show analytics we were doing well all this kind of stuff but it's like here I am talking about determination and discipline and I'm showing it in one area of my life just one which is the show and I can look I can at that point can look at myself in the mirror that one day and I go
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
How dare you talk about this? How dare you talk about discipline? How dare you talk about determination? Because you can't even be disciplined on what you put in your mouth. Or if you're getting up and going to the gym. You know what I'm saying? So this is what's crazy.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
The moment I started being aligned and making decisions that are in line with that individual that's going to become one of those top level hosts. Right. The chasing of the Joe Rogan, who I think is a goat. Right. Like chasing him, getting that same conversation of these bigger names. Like I had to be the best me. So I started chipping away at it. I started chipping away at it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
For me, that's what it is.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Ja, nein, ich freue mich auf das, Mann, du weißt, du weißt, ich bin auf dieser Seite, du weißt, die Seite der Straße in der Leben, auch richtig, und es ist, und es geht wirklich darum, ehrlich zu sein, Mann, und ich denke, die Dinge, die wir die Möglichkeit haben, jeden einzelnen Tag zu machen, wie du gesagt hast, du bist an einem Feldtag gegangen, als du mit deinem Sohn zu essen hattest, ich konnte das viel machen, du weißt, ich bin zu meinen Töchtern gegangen, dieses, dieses, kann ich dir eine Geschichte kurz erzählen, ja, komm schon, also,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
My daughter goes, my kids go to this prep school and it's a really good school. My wife teaches there, praise God, because it's 30 grand a year to go there and we don't have to pay that. So that's nice. It's like college. So, so she's in kindergarten. Und sie kommt zu mir nach Hause und ich höre meine Frau durch die Tür kommen und meine Tochter und sie sagt, frag deinen Vater, frag deinen Vater.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Und sie sagt, du denkst, er wird es machen? Frag deinen Vater, geh, geh, geh. Also kommt sie zu mir und sagt, Vater, sie handelt mir diesen Packet. Es ist ein Entrepreneurial Competition Packet. Willst du das mit mir machen? Ich sage, Mia, sag weniger. Absolut. Komm schon, lass uns gehen. Well, you know, it's like, oh, you can make trinkets, you can make something, you can make stuffed animals.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
What do you want to make? Because I want to help people, Dad. I'm like, how are you going to do that? She goes, same way you do. I'm going to start a podcast. I'm like, I'm like right now getting emotional about it, right? So I'm like, well, what are you going to do? And she goes, well, I just want to help kids. I said, okay, well, let's back up. What do you want to call it?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Also hat sie dieses, weißt du, sie ist, sie ist eine Schwester, Bro, sie ist so klug, Alter, also, ähm, ich bin so, okay, cool, also, weißt du, ich musste mit ihr Revenue-Streams mitbauen und, weißt du, Prozesse und all das Art und Weise. Long story short, endet sie, weißt du, For sure.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Ja, be determined. Und Determination doesn't look like what everybody thinks it looks like. Everybody thinks it's like this sexy, gritty, fighting type of thing. It's just, sometimes it's putting your shoes on when you don't want to. You know, and metaphorically speaking, as we land the plane, dude, we gotta talk about the event, man. June 7th through the 9th, I'm gonna be there.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Ich werde da sein, mit dir, Inky, E.T. Ich weiß, mein Junge Brandon Burns wird da sein, meine Frau Rachel. Ich bin super gespannt, alle zu sehen. Also, sag das dem Publikum. Und übrigens, für die, die dich hören, ein spezielles Code für Nächst-Level-Sprecher ist das Code TDS. Du bekommst 20% aus. Es wird die Show-Notes mit dem Link zu ihrem Website sein.
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He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Klick das, wenn du das Code-Wort TDS schaust. Du solltest da sein. Besonders meine Atlanta-Folk.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
You're going to spoil your boy, huh? That's dope. I love it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Das wird großartig, Mann. Es wird großartig mit euch. Ich habe es nicht gesehen. Ich sah, ich war mit ET im Juli. Okay. Also ich kann nicht glauben, es ist fast ein Jahr. Wow. Ja. Ja. Ja. Ein Jahr. Wir sind in Traverse, Michigan.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Yeah, that's where we linked up. Traverse, Michigan. Wow. At Glover U. He did a big keynote there for that real estate conference. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a beautiful city, bro. That's a beautiful town. Really? I haven't been. They call it the Bahamas of America. It's clear water. It's just strange. Sleeping Bear Dunes, Lake Michigan. When we get down here, go Google that. It's beautiful, bro.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
It's beautiful. It's gorgeous. But no, man, I just want to thank you so much for coming on today and sharing your story and really connecting with the audience and really not just speaking, you know, zu ihnen, mit ihnen zu sprechen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Ich fühle mich, als ob du den Publikum heute im Auge gesehen hättest und mit ihnen von Herz zu Herz gesprochen hättest und ihnen deine Geschichte erklärt hättest, was du durchgegangen hast und was du durchgekommen hast, um dort zu kommen. Und du hast es perfekt angefangen. Du sprichst darüber, dass jeder sieht, wie du lebst. Es ist wie, was tust du?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Es geht nicht darum, was ich tue, sondern darum, was ich durchgekommen habe, um hierher zu kommen. Und der Publikum war wie, Leute, ihr wisst ja, If you're going through something that hurts so bad right now, whether you're thinking about an attempt on your life or things like that, reach out to somebody, man. Reach out to somebody.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Hell, reach out to me, because the bottom line is, you're going through this, and if you get through that one moment, you're going to be stronger than you've ever imagined. And that's what it's going to take. It's what it's going to take for you to achieve your dreams, to become really strong and overcome things that
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Du glaubst nicht, dass du das kannst, aber die Grundlage ist, dass Gott es dir nicht geben würde, wenn du es nicht hättest.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Well, dude, you're welcome back anytime. We can have you back a little bit later and talk about your other thing and how it relates to everything. But, dude, it was just a pleasure, man. I'm so grateful to be connected with you now. I can't wait to see you guys in June. It's going to be awesome. So, again, thank you, brother. Thank you. Vielen Dank fürs Zuhören.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Leave the possibility open that it may be true. Not just true for us, but true for you too. You could overcome the hardest things in your life and become a massive success. And you could have peace and alignment at the same time. Alright guys, so I love y'all. Thanks for listening. Until next time, stay determined.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Und das ist das, was der Publikum, ich will, dass der Publikum wirklich darauf eintritt, richtig, weil du in der Anfangszeit erwähnt hast. Und zuerst einmal möchte ich sagen, dass ich ohne einen biologischen Vater bis ich acht Jahre alt war. Okay. Und dann hat meine Mutter jemanden verheiratet, der mein Vater war. Und, du weißt, wir haben viele Vergleiche.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Du weißt, ich habe mich nicht in die Nachtclub und die Verkaufung von Drogen befasst, aber ich habe mich in einem Baseballspieler befasst und Ja, genau. Die Grundlage ist, dass viele Leute, bis FedEx kommt, Amazon, wer auch immer, zu deinem Haus kommt und sagt, Mann, was machst du für ein Leben? Und es ist so, Mann, es geht nicht darum, was ich tue, sondern, was habe ich übernommen?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Und für die Publikation, für die, die das anschauen und hören, ich möchte, dass du über dein Leben denkst, weil... We all want these flashy things. We all want to be a seven-figure speaker or a CEO of a company or a top show host. And we have this big idea and this big mountain, right? The Mount Kilimanjaro, the peak of that dang thing. Und wir denken, das ist das Treue. Das ist es nicht.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Du weißt, mein Herz war einfach zerbrochen, Bruder. Viele Leute sagen, dass es keine hohe Macht gibt. Das war eine Intervention von Gott. Absolut, Bruder.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Das ist nicht das Treue. Es sind all diese Momente dazwischen. Ich spreche über das sehr oft, richtig? Es sind diese Momente von Schmerzen, von Blut, von weinen, wenn niemand da ist. Ich meine, ich kann dir sagen, bis etwa ein Jahr ago, als niemand zu Hause war, ich saß da in der Büro, als ich im Podcast gedreht war, weinend, weil ich so depressiv und müde war. Ja.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
No one knows the struggle, but those are the moments that made me. Those are the moments that made the show better. Those are the moments that made me a better husband, a better father, right? And so, like, I just think that's something to be said, and I just love how you touched on that, right? Because you can't be an effective speaker if you don't understand that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
But that's the thing, man. It bothers me so much when someone's like, man, I tried that. It didn't work. How long did you try it for? How long did you try it for? Come on. You're going to tell me you tried something for a year and it didn't work? That's not your checkpoint. This show was nothing for three and a half years. Come on. Nothing. Now we're top eight trending on Spotify? Crazy.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
It's because all of a sudden, people say, where did that come from? That was overnight. No, it wasn't overnight. You're just now seeing it. But I was sitting there doing the work and I started it in my car, then I went to my den. And it was painful every time because I knew it wasn't it. I was like, this isn't the final landing spot.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
I don't have this, I don't have that, I don't have everything that I need in order to make this thing really great. But what I did have ist meine Präsenz nicht zu stoppen. Und ich habe immer gesagt, und Shoutout zu meiner wunderschönen Frau. Sie sagt, du hast alles, was du brauchst. Einen Tag wird jemand es sehen. Und ich bin so, das ist nicht so, wie es in diesem Geschäft funktioniert.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Und Baby, du hast recht. Ich bin sorry. You know, it's like, you just keep going, because those moments of pain and heartache, and even though it hurts so much, there was times, man, I'm sure you can relate to this, Jeremy, you know, bro, like, you wake up in the morning, you put your feet on the ground, you're grateful that God woke you up, but you're also like, damn, this hurts. I can't today.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
I can't. Literally, and I tell myself that to this day sometimes. There's days where I wake up like, I can't do this. Today I woke up and I'm like, there's no shot I can get a good lift in. So you know what I did? I went and got a good lift in. Because I take whatever pain I'm going in and I stare it in the face and I lean right into that crap.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode. I am your host, Sean French. Today I have with me an amazing dude, an amazing entrepreneur, the creator of Next Level Speakers. He founded the thing. He's a seven-figure speaker. He's been in the trenches. He's been through the depths of darkness and he has risen up and he's now impacting many people.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Du weißt, mein Herz war einfach zerbrochen, Bro. Du, ich bin unschuldig darüber, Bro. Und es ist so lustig, nicht lustig, komisch, aber es ist verrückt für mich, weil viele Leute sagen, dass es keine hohe Macht gibt. Das war eine Intervention von Gott. Absolut, Bro.