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The Determined Society with Shawn French

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And I think that more, I know that more people need to adopt living in purpose and making impact over income or fame or anything like that. And because you guys have done that so consistently, you're changing lives and you're saving lives.

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Yeah, man. You guys are all close and personal over there. You guys are rubbing elbows. Look at you guys. Yeah. Beautiful. No. So again, thank you so much for taking time to meet with me today and discuss Recovery Unplugged and what it means to society, the world, and the work that you guys are doing.

The Determined Society with Shawn French

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You know, it's interesting, guys, because, you know, I look at this, you know, obviously music is art. And what I do is an art in its own right, interviewing people and things like that. And when I started, right, when I started this show, I started it with an iPhone in a car and I was just venting. And for me, it was getting things out.

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And but also when what I noticed is, you know, I had that imposter syndrome earlier. Who the heck am I to, you know, to start a podcast? No one cares what I have to say. So it was that self-worth, right? And I continued to do the work. And what I found was even when I would go on a rant, it resonated with somebody and it helped somebody heal. And I'm like, wait a second.

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This could be so much bigger. So I doubled down on it and I kept working and I kept working. And then all of a sudden now this massive team behind me and we're able to get this message and have conversations with you two legends on the show to talk about your impact. And I'm, I'm making impact by delivering it.

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Yeah. I mean, you know, and thank you for that because to me, I always, when people meet me in person, like when, when we meet, you're like, you're the same guy. And to your point, social media does highlight some of the, well, most of the highlight reels of things. And when you meet somebody, sometimes the energies don't match. And to me, that's scary and that's dangerous, right?

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So before we get into it, for the audience that isn't familiar with Recovery Unplugged, can you guys give a little brief description of what it is that you guys are doing and how it was founded?

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And so for me to use my voice, I had to get very comfortable with me in order to do that. And as I progress, I'm bringing more of me, more of my opinions and not worrying about how it's going to be, I guess, viewed or received by people that aren't my people. There's going to be people out there I'm sure hate my show. Cool. You have that right.

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But what we're doing here is I'm never going to speak untruthfully. I'm going to be genuine. I'm going to be authentic. I know these are buzzwords, but here it's real. And that's why, to your point, I've been able to grow at a rapid pace. And that's why you guys have grown at such a rapid pace because it's real.

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It's about who you know.

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Yeah, no, and that's great. And I'm glad the audience and if you're if you're listening right now, and you have any type of mental illness, you struggle with something or even addiction, like recovery unplug, think about this, go go look at it on the internet and see if it's something for you.

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Because what you're talking about right now is when people go or when when a family member sits another family member or friend down said, Hey, we think you have a problem. We need you to go to recovery. The only thing I would imagine, I'm not an addict, right? But I can imagine the feelings of shame.

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I love that.

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I keep going back to impact in my mind. The only way you can make a true impact is if you care. Yes. And what you guys are doing is doing enough work up front to see what potentially might make that resident feel more comfortable immediately.

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You know, instead of walking into a scary moment and I'm here now and it's meeting after meeting and I'm labeled this addict and that could be scary, I would imagine.

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How do you help them work through that? I mean, I know the traditional, the medications, the therapies, the music and everything, but specifically that right there, that is a tough spot, right? How does that work at Recovery Unplugged and getting them through that initially or even as quickly as possible?

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Yeah. In 12 years. Yes. Yeah.

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I love the leading by example aspect that you're talking about, right? Movement, right? Movement. So whether you're working out, running or dancing, it's still movement, right? You're breaking that inertia, right?

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As you know, that first movement that you make throughout the day, whether you're in recovery or just, you know, super tired from all the pizza you ate the night before or the sugar, like that first move is hard, right? But once you get moving, the juices start flowing. And it's always nice to see when the people in charge are also living examples of that, right?

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And it all goes back, guys, to you're best equipped to help the person that you used to be.

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Wow, that's amazing. Richie, what's been your journey in this with Andrew? Because, I mean, I know you play a big part in it and you're taking your own personal experience and bringing it into this venture. I mean, it's very interesting.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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He's looking so smelt. Yeah. He's in his 80s and has more hair than I do. Good Lord, man. I'm worried about me.

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No, you look good. And so I'm a large, by the way. So when I come over, yeah, I will support that for sure. So as we land the plane here, guys, it's been a great conversation about what you guys do. And I know the audience is dialed in.

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And my audience loves this kind of stuff because either they're dealing with addiction or mental illness or someone in their family, as you know, has been touched by it or friends. What's next for Recovery Unplugged?

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Love it. Love that.

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Unbelievable, guys. I've really enjoyed this. And you guys are fascinating. What you guys are doing is groundbreaking and helping the world get better. And I'm super happy we spent this afternoon together.

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I can't wait to see you guys. I'm going to come over. I'm going to come over. I'll probably come over in the next three, four weeks. I'm going to be honest.

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Yes, she will. Yes, she will. I'll be in touch with you guys. And for the audience, if this show touched you in any type of way, I'm sure it did. And you can share the show with somebody you know, love and trust. Please go ahead and share with them. Give them the words of these two amazing men and the work that they're doing in the world. And until next time, guys, stay determined.

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Yeah. We were talking a little bit off air, and I told you how my wife and I, when we want to connect, we listen to music together. And then you mentioned music is about connectivity, and it connects people, right? From different paths, and everybody has a story, and you're able to connect really well through music. And like you mentioned, it disarms you. It disarms.

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And I want to go back real quick. You talked about when you wrote Amazing, that big hit. I was watching some of that stuff prior to the interview. And just you and Steven Tyler on set singing that song. And I'm listening to his words. And the overarching thing is life is not about the destination. It's about the journey.

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right and i love this because i'm getting goosebumps like no joke guys because a lot of my platform i talk about hey you know do the small steps every day forget about what that macro result is you want but let's focus on the journey and who you become within that you know every single day and you know you're out there for a year and a half doing recovery unplugged just by yourself and then all of a sudden you're you're doing that every single day

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And Andrew, you guys have harmony, right? And you're doing what you do every single day. And all of a sudden, when the time is right, connectivity. And because of music, now you guys are working on your 18,000th patient. This is incredible. This is about doing the work every day with purpose and it opening up to something so much greater.

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What's up everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the determined society. I'm your host, Sean Frisch. Before I introduce today's guests, please hit subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, Apple podcasts, and let us know what you love about the show.

The Determined Society with Shawn French

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And you're referring to Adam David, correct?

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Yeah, it sure is. You know, it's funny, you're talking about, we keep going back to the word connectivity, and there's a reason, right? So when I look at your little concerts, right, whether it was you and Steven Tyler, Flo Rida, I'm looking at the crowd. I'm looking at... the residents within the facility. And I'm seeing some super open and just flown with it. And there was just one, right?

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So today I have singer songwriter, Richie Supa, who his resume is very, very large, but I'm going to drop a couple of names here with Aerosmith and Steven Tyler, pink air supply. Uh, an amazing, amazing professional in the music industry, and I have the founder of Recovery Unplugged, Andrew Sosin, with us today. We're going to get into it right now. Gentlemen, welcome to the show.

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I believe it was the Flowrider video. I saw her in the front with her arms crossed, kind of looking around, wanting to come out. But I can see in her eyes that she was wanting to, but wasn't comfortable yet. But then as the video... continued, you can see her facial expression changing to a little bit more joy because there was so much love and fun going on around her.

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And again, the connectivity of the music, having someone big like Flo right on the stage, right? Right there in your little room was pretty dang cool. It was, but it gave them a chance to just be and connect, right?

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The one thing that I admire most with you gentlemen is, again, very successful past. As you mentioned, Richie, you left the music industry to do this solely, and Andrew, you left some things that you were doing to focus on this. It is an energy, but what it mostly is is two people leading with a purpose and something that's so fulfilling.

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When I say this movie needs to be seen everywhere, and I mean, to me, it's an Oscar nod. Like, I truly mean it. You guys absolutely crushed it, and I really do feel if there's anybody listening, yo, you need to get on this shit. Because the bottom line is, I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it. If this movie is not seen, then the world cannot heal.

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Yeah. I think the word feel is super important, right? Because a lot of times people want to skip the feel part, right? And when you're in something like this and you're feeling those moments, it just makes everything much more impactful. It also shows us, you know, towards the end, everything has the opportunity to be okay, right? Yeah.

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You know, you know, Bill, your your character, I feel like I want you to answer the other question. I think you already have. But, you know, I do feel like Sam got as happy after ever, ever after, man, you know, towards the end. I thought it was a nice little twist.

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Yeah. So I feel like, you know, that character, Samuel got a happy ever after. He had such a hard life and so many things. And then, you know, the wife was there and then, you know, um, You know, the other the other things I don't want to ruin the ending for people, but I probably already did. But but I you know, hey, I'm not perfect.

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But the bottom line is the bottom line is like there was there was a moment where there was a massive pendulum swing. Right. And in in the in whether it was luck or more blessings towards Samuel's character.

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And we have our writer and director. rob rob rob like dude you like rob sayer right it's a sayer without an r but we're here and um man i'm just so happy to be here with you guys and uh i told you guys before filming that i'm in love with the movie

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Well, I think that, I mean, I know that you guys, everybody in the movie impacted me when I watched it. It was phenomenally done. The one thing that I really noticed, and it's so funny because my show is called The Determined Society, and I'm watching this whole movie, I'm like, These are some determined sons of bitches here in this movie because there's a lot of shit going on.

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Like, a lot of shit. And it just showed that, you know, in everyone's lives, there are moments where you either have the option to A, either throw in the towel, or B, fight. And everyone in this movie was a fighter, and I... loved it because of that. Right. Because of that.

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Did you guys feel, I mean, I know determination probably wasn't one of the things that crossed your mind, but, but looking back at it and looking at your characters, how determined, how different were they and, and Rob, how determined were you to write this whole script?

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Oh, you know, I love that shit. That's good. That's good stuff. That's good stuff.

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So hell man, if I quit every time someone laughed at me for wanting to start a podcast, I wouldn't be sitting here with y'all.

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Absolutely. I mean, like, again, you know, from opening scene to the very last the very last scene, my it's the name is fitting beyond the rush because my heart was continually going like this. Like it was, you know, Mina, your beginning scene. Right. Like that right there. I was like, oh, my God. Like I knew right then I'm like, my wife is not going to watch this movie with me.

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you know i battled to get a good ending you know something that you don't walk out feeling you know and you could see it man you can see it in that whole battle like you know you know mina you you know you i want i want you to speak on determination now because you've been in this business a very long time i'm sure there was moments that were very frustrating you gotta go bill

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all right my man yes um thank you sir you're leaving yeah can you believe he's he's he's got he's doing the irish goodbye he's doing that well i'm sure to goodbyes if you didn't say anything i know i know i know we just kind of drifted off hey sending you love man give your give your pops my best man thanks and it's been an honor to be on here really enjoy talking here i'd love to talk more about baseball but thanks so much

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Absolutely. Well, we'll do a group thread. We'll do a group thread or something like that.

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Thank you, brother. So, I mean, again, Mina, you know, you were you've you've been in the industry for a long time and then you've gone through many different roles and probably a lot of different types of rejection and all that good stuff. And your mom. And you're an author.

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Well, I think the important thing, I think the important thing when we're talking about determination, we're talking about pushing through adversity is, is, is really, and I tell this, I say about, I talk about this all the time is doing the next right thing. Right.

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So let's say, you know, you're getting discouraged and there's someone right now watching the show that has followed you your whole career. And the words that come out of your mouth are going to help them. How do they, you know, what would you tell them to do if they're struggling and they're at that point, they just want to quit on their dreams? What would you tell them?

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because she'll have nightmares for the rest of her life. This is going to be all on me to watch. But from that point to, you know, the character you played, Leah, and Bill, you as the lead male, like, I have so many questions, right? Like, first of all, tell me kind of how you guys, what attracted you guys to Beyond the Rush in the first place? Because it is such a dynamic film.

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you know, I, you know, that's, that's all interesting. And, and you're, you're spot on, on every, every bit of it. And it's, it's so crazy because, you know, the, one of the main things was when you get to really know yourself to the core, right. You have to truly know yourself and just understand what your boundaries are and who you are really. Right.

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And I think that a lot of people kind of put the cart before the horse. They want, the self-confidence, they want all the respect, they want to know who they are, but yet they're falling short on their standards that they set out. God bless you. The standards that they set on themselves every single day, right? So if you're going on an introspective journey,

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you know, you're sitting there, okay, every day I'm going to do A, B, and C, right? So you do A, B, and C, no matter how good or bad you feel, right? And this is where the determination kicks in.

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Everything that you've gone through in your personal life, everything that Rob's gone through, everything that Bill's gone through, and even myself is, okay, are we going to make the decision to move forward even though emotionally I feel like shit right now? Right. Because because if I don't, if I don't move forward, I'm out of alignment with who I am. Right.

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And I just get further and further away from that person, that man, that woman I'm supposed to be. Right. Whereas to your point, if we keep going and searching for our value, we find it in the work. And a lot of people miss that.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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It was amazing because up until the point where you guys are sitting in the living room, right? Samuel is a young boy and then his brother Peter, it was time for your character to go away for a bit to get better. You could see the pain in Leah's eyes and that was the goodness, right?

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And it's also kind of why if you continue to watch the movie, you're almost, you know, Samuel's conscious throughout the whole movie. And that's the, yeah, it, it, to me, it, it, it made sense.

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Yeah, no, absolutely. And kudos to Rob. Cause I mean like what, what you did, not just writing and directing it, but putting everybody in that place to do what they do clearly showed a lot of freedom and creativity and everybody being themselves, you know? So, so Bill, man, like, you know, talk about your character, very complex character, right?

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I felt like every five seconds and seconds, something was happening to Samuel.

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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French, and today I have a special, special treat for you. I know I always say that, but wait until you hear this show and watch this show wherever you enjoy The Determined Society. So today I have...

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Dude, that's freaking impactful because right from the jump of the movie, right, it's like there was a scene. And right at this certain scene, I'm not going to say it because I want people to watch this and be surprised of what happens in the movie because I feel I love the movie so much I could talk about it and ruin it for everybody.

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But there was a moment there where someone comes up to you and is like, hey, looks like you're doing great. What do we really know about people's lives? Right. What do we really know? So to your point, you know, being able to be introspective, like, wait a second, the whole world is going on right now.

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Like I'm having this conversation with y'all right now and I have certain problems in my life, but there's somebody down the road that has bigger problems. And what are they going on in their life? Maybe they're the one that cut me off in traffic. I don't know what they're in a hurry for. Maybe I should give them some grace.

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an amazing cast from an amazing film that I just saw and it's an independent film that to me needs to be distributed everywhere on big screen and has major Oscar implications in my mind. It's incredible and these performances from the actresses to the actors and the writing and directing from, it's just a masterful piece. So today I have with me award-winning actress,

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This is impactful because you mentioned, you know, growth and Mina, you mentioned personal growth as well. You like to choose roles that help you grow as a person. So I kind of want to hear from each of you. Well, we'll go Rob and Mina. And then, you know, Bill, you can elaborate on how it helped you grow in your life, just playing these characters and being a part of this production.

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You just let them be the peacocks they are and you let them fly captain. That's what you did, baby. That's what you did. Yeah. You guys know that reference, the other guys. With Will Ferrell and Marky Mark? Oh, yeah. No? Okay. Come on, Mina. Help me out here for crying out loud.

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You like it? Good. It was good. I'm a peacock, Captain. You got to let me fly. I'm a peacock. I'm a peacock. You got to let me fly. Have you ever done a desk pop? What's a desk pop?

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he fires the gun oh that's right that's right that's right yeah yeah just writing the office yeah just boom everybody's done what sorry amina we're we're getting it yeah yeah so she's like it's it's here it's here on that one um She's going to, it's going to come across. She's going to watch the movie over again now.

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So, you know, like, again, you, you mentioned that you like to have, you know, the character, you know, play a character that you're truly interested in that can help you grow. How did, how did this impact you, this film overall?

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Nina Savari, you have definitely seen her in a lot of films, American Pie, American Beauty, yada, yada, yada. Well, she plays an amazing lead role as the mom, Leah, in this movie, and she absolutely crushes it. And we have... Our man Bill Barrett, who plays Samuel, a very complex character, incredible. I got to tell you, dude, that role, it was very amazing to see that role on screen.

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That's awesome. You know, because I, I, I'm, I'm listening to this. And like when you, when you say, you know, you wake up in the morning, you have a headache, right? You know, I overate on some stuff last night, but I'm not going to lie to you. And I woke up this morning and I had a headache. Exactly. And I'm like, what the hell? And then, and then, and then I woke up and then I had my water.

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Right. And then I had some black coffee. And I just didn't want to touch food until later on in the day. And by that point, I'm underfed. And then I'm not making the best decision moving forward.

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And I think that's the game that everybody's playing in society is what one decision that you make at night really is going to impact how you feel in the morning and impact your decision making throughout the day. And then when it really hurts and you've been there, is it's like at night when you have the decision fatigue and that's when you fall off the rails. That's when you binge.

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And then you start to cycle over.

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And I'm sitting over here, you know, looking at probably the most in shape individual on the face of this earth. Yeah.

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Was that because there's a high level of cortisol?

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I would say initial, to be fair, like, oh my God, that's a lot, right? It's a lot. But then when I peeled back the onion a little bit, I was really starting to see the mission, right? The mission of like, hey, we can reverse the aging process and we can have more time on this earth with the ones that we love.

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And you're not giving advice that is, you don't have to be rich to do that. You don't have to be an entrepreneur. You don't have to be anything other than let's just stay present and let's try this. Let's, okay, 8 p.m., now 7 p.m., now 6 p.m. And if I can get away at 5 p.m. and that's my sweet spot, well, then why wouldn't you continue it, right? Right.

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Let me ask you this is something I was thinking about when I was, you know, watching your documentary and, and just like other things that I've seen from you, you know, based on body composition, everything like that. You stop eating at 11 and you're vegan by choice, correct? Yeah, plant based. Okay, plant based. How in the world? How do you hold so much muscle?

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I'm actually curious because I think there's a, and this is why I asked the question for the audience listening and watching. This is why I ask because everybody tells us that you need to have, you know, right now I'm 198 pounds. Well, if I want to gain all this muscle and shred fat, then I need to have 250 to 300 grams of protein a day.

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Well, I can't get that by 11 or even probably 4 or 5 p.m., right? Because that's a lot of protein. What are your thoughts on that? Because when I look at you, you're plant-based. There's no way in God's green earth you're getting over 200 to 250 grams of protein a day.

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And I just, I adore the fact that you've pretty much turned yourself into a guinea pig to help

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When you say 130 grams of protein, if you don't mind me asking, what's your lean mass? What's your lean mass at? You know, I need to look at that number. I don't know. I mean, it's high, right? I mean, obviously. But no, these are just things that I like to ask, right?

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Yeah, you're very lean. And is that including visceral and brain and all that kind of stuff?

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Wow. Wow. That's impressive, man. That's impressive. You know what happens when I eat a lot of protein? I get gout in my ankles.

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It's, my wife was saying, you know, we're going to dive into his blueprint. My wife, she's all in it, man. She watched it with me. And I told her I was interviewing you today. And she was very intent of like, I think I want to dive into this. I want to dive into this. She goes, are you open? I'm like, well, of course I'm open. I have three beautiful children and a beautiful wife.

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I want to be around. I'm 46. I'm roughly the same age as you. And I'm just now starting to get healthier again. And when I look at you, I'm like, wow, that's something that's possible. you know, in later in age, right. That, that I'm in. And I think there's a lot of people out there that even listening to the show right now can really get a whole lot out of him. Like, Hey, wait a second.

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I can feel better. I can sleep better. I can look better and I can live just a little bit longer.

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Dude, of you? I mean, everybody's pretty much blown away, man. I mean, they're very excited about this episode being recorded and going out because what I think you've done is create an undercurrent of what everybody really wants, right? Everybody wants more time on this earth and nobody wants to really get sick But I think the big disconnect, Brian, is... There's many things that stuck with me.

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I think too, I keep going back to this, but the wake up in the morning, right? I know when I'm eating super clean and I'm exercising a lot that I'll wake up in the morning and I just jump out of bed and I'm good, right? What's the biggest difference? I felt good waking up in the morning, but I'm very curious on how you feel when you wake up.

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I just feel like, Brian, your mission in life right now is to show people how to gain a little bit more time. As a parent and a husband, I've said this on my show many times, and I've even said it here, I want to be around longer for my children. I want to see my daughters walk down the aisle. I want to hold my grandchildren. Hell, I want to be a great grandparent one day.

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And I think that too many people in the world have just accepted that this is just the way it is and I'm going to die soon. And it is what it is. But we can reverse that a little bit. And I think that's all you're trying to prove.

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That's wild. That is wild. Because when you started it, you, out of 12 months, you age 1.01 years, right? Exactly. And then you got down to, you know, you were saying like, hey, you know, November, you know, September, like whatever, the last three months you get for free. Now you've exceeded that.

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But one comment that you made on your show was, I used to eat with my mind and now I eat with my body. I'm like, holy shit. Hold on a second. What does that actually mean? Because when you look at that, it causes for a different action, right? And... In my circle, at least, they're very intrigued and very excited. Now, I know you've caught a lot of hate. I mean, you know that.

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Impressive, man. I am super intrigued by all of this, as you can tell. You're out there, you're touring the world, right? And you're at your Don't Die Summit. You're going to be in Miami soon. And I think that's an amazing way to give back and show people the resources, right? It's not just a keynote. You're up there on stage and you bang out on your PJ afterwards.

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You're there, you're mixing it up, you're talking to people, and you're going to see the vendors. Thank you

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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You've talked about it openly. And I kind of find it comical, to be quite honest with you.

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None of my friends have burned anything of you, dude. Not one. Not one. I watched the documentary with my wife and she's like, wow, that's a lot. She goes, but hey, can we just do some of this? Yeah. Because we can't set up a lab in our house. And I'm like, I get it. But for my circle, there's been no burns on you. Everybody's just intrigued.

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Yeah, I mean, walk the audience through that though, right? Because what does that actually, you know, we can say it, right? But I'm also curious to dive deeper into that because I've made a lot of improvements lately, but there's still a ton I can do because I still, we're emotional beings, right? So for me, if I'm happy, I wanna eat, I wanna celebrate. If I'm sad, I wanna eat because I'm down.

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thing that i really enjoyed is that he was getting in it with you you know he was like you know he he at one point he's like hey can i go can i go get my pills now like can i can i do this and you could just see the connection there between the two of you and don't worry man i i would cry in a target too like i i brother i'm that guy don't don't worry man i i probably have I probably have.

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But again, man, thank you so much for coming on. I truly enjoyed having this conversation with you. I would love to keep the communication open with you and continue to learn from you and all that good stuff, man. You're doing big things and I appreciate you. Thanks, Sean. I really enjoyed hanging out with you. Yeah, me too, man. Me too. Me too. It was great.

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So for the audience, I need you guys to do me a quick favor. I need you to drop a comment here on YouTube or on Spotify and tell us what you really enjoyed about the episode. But more than anything, please share it with someone that you know, love and trust that wants to have a better life, improve their longevity and be around their people a little bit longer. And until next time, stay determined.

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So, but that's all mental and you have disconnected from your mind, right?

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But I think what I enjoy most about it, right, is like, yes, you have this whole elaborate setup and everything like that. But what you're really doing is you're just showing by making changes, you can reverse the aging of your organs, right? And I think it's hard for a lot of people to really...

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I think except because like, wait a second, you know, am I really living if I'm doing all this and not being out there living, but, but, but they're missing it. Yes. They're missing it.

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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French, and before I introduce today's guest, please go ahead and hit follow on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts, and let us know what you loved about today's guest. So today I have with us a longevity expert, a man who has set out to literally say don't die.

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It's, I'm like, I'm, my mind's going a lot of different places when you're, when you're speaking about that. But the one particular place that I want to speak about is, you know, to your point, the YOLO, right? We're going to go party and we're going to go do all these things. We're going to work ourself till we're miserable and not have enough space to be present with our families, et cetera.

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Right. That's okay. Society accepts that. Society accepts seeing people on social media drinking, talking about porn, all this different stuff, but it's taboo to want to live longer? How is that? I mean, right, Ryan? Like, go on, man. Like, what are your thoughts on that? Like, how do you work through that and how do you educate people on that specific point?

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you know, like, well, dude, I mean, like, I mean, but for most people, like, I mean, it was even in your doc, like, you know, the view was bashing you. Like one lady is like, F you Brian. It's like, you're, you're missing it. And I, and I, and I think what it, what it did though, I think what it did, Brian, and I tend to look at things deeply.

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That's why I didn't miss that one statement in your, in your documentary is like, You remind people that they aren't doing the right stuff. I know, it's true. And it's a threat. Yeah. Especially to the medical industry. Because we all know there's no gain, there's no profit in healthy people.

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Yeah, I think what makes, I mean, I think beyond the obvious, your intelligence and the things that you're doing make you very appealing to the layperson is you've been overweight, Brian. You've been, I mean, I look at things from you back in the day, you know, over at Braintree Venmo before you sold to PayPal. It's like the dude doesn't even look the same.

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He's created the Don't Die Summit and the Blueprint. I have with us Netflix's own Brian Johnson, what's up, brother? Hey, good to see you. It's so good to see you, man. It's so good to see you. I've seen so many things from you. I feel like I already know you. How do I match up in real life? Well, dude, you're as handsome as ever, okay?

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Like it's not even, it's not, it's not even like a body issue, right? It's like the face, the hair, the skin, the everything. I think it would be important for the audience to maybe walk them through how you felt post Braintree to lead you to where you're at right now.

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Hey, man, it's good to see you guys.

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You're in California, right? So you're in California for the fires. I would assume you're probably still in Florida in some parts and then the Carolinas, yes?

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Bro, I'm getting back into it, man. Like, you know, I'm trying. You know, I see some vascularity coming out.

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What I think is real special too is, and I want the audience to really hear this. So if you live in Atlanta or anywhere close to Atlanta, get your butts to Fuel Fest on April 19th. If you have children 12 and under get in free, go party with a purpose and give back to, to reach out worldwide. Cause that's, that's the thing, right?

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We all, the thing that I love about how the two play together is, you know, one we're honoring someone and we're giving a space for the car culture and people like out there that,

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go fast somewhere to do it safely in part yes right and then also we're giving back to to those that are that are being challenged right now through you know the natural disasters and i can tell you what i live right here in hurricane alley you know it it shit gets pretty scary guys you know and and just to know that you know there is an organization tied to your brother's name out there helping i'm not surprised but but it makes me feel very very good about this

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Yeah, that came right through us, man. I didn't stick around for that one. Well, you know, listen, man.

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Well, dude, I grew up in the Bay Area. I grew up in San Francisco Bay. Yeah. So I'm very familiar. I came out this way after I played college baseball at LSU. But I grew up in the San Francisco Bay. So I was there for the early 89ers. I was in elementary. I'm 46.

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Bro, coming from you, like, I'm going to hold on to that, and I'm going to take that to heart, bro.

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The Bay Bridge collapsed. I was born in 089.

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And I was on a soccer field. Wow. And I just remembered doing this. I'm like, what's that?

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Well, you have a shirt on. You have one of them old school Adidas tracksuits on. So I'm sure it's there, bro.

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I'm coming to market with mine. So no guys, listen, it's super excited to meet you guys. You know, obviously super excited to talk about fuel fast and what it means, you know, at a deeper rooted level and what it's providing the car culture and just even giving back to your lives as well.

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I will be at Florida there for sure. I have an event I'm speaking at that week in Pennsylvania.

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Damn it. Damn it. Damn it, Tyrese. I'm going to work it out. I'll keep Val posted so she can get with you. But I would love to meet you guys, and we'll go from there. I'm going to work it out.

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And carrying on Cody, your brother, Paul's legacy is something that he would be proud of that people can go and, and really dive into the culture and go fast safely and really have somewhere to go to celebrate the 20 years of fast, really. I mean, think about that. I mean, it's been two decades, you know, and there's people that have grown up on that fast and furious, you know, legacy.

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Say less, bro. Say less. I'll figure it out.

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That's it. And yours truly will be there. I accept your invite. I love you both. Check your DMs because we'll set up a meet and greet and all that good stuff. So, gentlemen. Look at Tyrese vibing. I just love it, man. I love it. Listen, thank you guys for coming on. I appreciate you. Thank you, Sean. Get there. Get there. I know a lot of people in Atlanta. You're going to have to come with me.

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Share this episode with someone you know, love, and trust that would really enjoy Fuel Fest, guys. That's what I'm asking the audience to do. Get this out to everybody you know. Thank you guys so much. Until next time, stay determined.

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Yeah, the weather in Atlanta is bipolar. We don't want to do that, man. We never know what it's going to be about. But you guys just wrapped up West Palm Beach, right?

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It was after the earthquake in Haiti, right? That's right.

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if I could really quickly Cody please real quick I just want to edify you for that Tyrese thank you for sharing that it's You know, obviously, you know, not knowing Paul personally, but, you know, it was as real as it could be for someone like me who was just a big fan and just knew what kind of person he was.

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So to hear you share something personal like that, I don't want to continue the interview without saying thank you for that.

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For sure, man. Yeah. And so, Cody, you know, from your perspective, you know, being blood brother. Right. And and being able to continue his legacy and doing fuel fast and and taking proceeds and putting in to reach out worldwide. What does that mean to you in doing all of this?

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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Determined Society. I am your host, Sean French. I have an amazing treat for you today, as always. But first, hit the follow button on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple, and get ready for this fast and furious episode. We're going to be highlighting Fuel Fest with amazing guests Tyrese Gibson and Cody Walker. What's up, boys? Yo, what up, Sean?

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And it wasn't really like that behind the scenes.

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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French, and just like always, an amazing guest. But before I introduce him, I need you to go follow the YouTube, Spotify, the Apple Podcast, and share this episode with someone that you know, love, and trust that would get a lot of value out of this.

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Yeah, that. Okay, alright. That was the best thing ever. So, you're playing Florida. Oh, yeah. It was at Florida, right? At a regional game. Okay, that's even... Yeah, four games away from Omaha. Four games away from the promised land. And you hit a home run.

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Was war das? Ich meine, offensichtlich waren deine Eltern da, dein Bruder war da.

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And I want to hear you and understand what you love about the show. So on Spotify, you can leave me a comment, and it's me commenting back. So there's a little hack for you. Let's chat. Heute habe ich einen wunderschönen professionellen Athleten mit uns. Sein Name ist Cory Cubano. Einen echten Namen Cory G. Ich kann seinen letzten Namen nicht bezeichnen, weil es super ist.

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An diesem Moment, hast du die Emotion bemerkt? Die echte Emotion. Jetzt bist du emotional. Hast du das Lächeln in deinem Auge, als es tatsächlich passiert ist? Or is it kind of looking back perspective?

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Ja, das ist das, was du nicht sofort realisierst. Wenn wir kreieren und wir sind authentisch und wir sind uns selbst, machen wir das, weil es uns heilt. Ich meine, das ist so, wie ich bin. Ich würde nicht sagen, dass wir, ich, wenn ich etwas rausnehme, wenn ich Gespräche wie diese habe, bin ich von meiner eigenen Erfahrung und von allem, was mit mir passiert ist. Und es hilft mir zu heilen.

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Und es ist okay, weil wir kommentieren. Wir haben darüber gesprochen vor dem Show. All right. Gib mir keine Scheiße darüber. Aber du weißt, er war ein College Baseball Spieler. Marshall University, then transferred to JU, and now he's a professional baseball player. He was with the Savannah Bananas up until recently. Now he's contracted to go play in a glow-in-the-dark league.

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Aber in so einem authentischen Weg. Absolutely, man. I always tell like my...

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Warum würdest du jemand anderes sein? Weißt du, ich denke, zu viele Leute verabschieden sich nicht von der limited edition, der One of One. Es gibt niemanden anderes wie dich. Es gibt vielleicht viele andere Leute, die Fußball spielen, aber niemand anderes hat die gleichen Fähigkeiten wie du. Nichts ist identisch. Ich bin einer von allen. Jeder, der jetzt hört, ist einer von allen.

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Du bist eine Verletzte. Und wenn du denkst, dass du nicht gut genug bist, ist das nur, weil du dich aufgrund von jemandem auf der rechten Seite von dir bestätigst. Du musst dich nach innen schauen und verstehen, die Gifte, die du hast, um die Welt zu bringen. Und das ist, wo die Macht kommt. Und wenn du das weißt, Nicht nur konzeptionell wissen, sondern eigentlich leben, atmen und es entdecken.

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Ja. Die Welt und die Türen öffnen.

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Haben sie gerade erklärt, dass sie sich kämpfen? Ja. Okay, lass uns einfach darüber sprechen. Die Marketing-Fähigkeiten dieser Unternehmen. Ich habe meinen Bruder gesagt, das ist genius. Sie sind die besten Promoter je, Alter. Ja, ja. Der Moment, den ihr alle warten wart. Nur als du dachtest, dass der J. Tyson das Ding war. Ja. Jetzt werden die Brüder Trade-Shots handeln. Wie verrückt ist das?

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Wie verrückt ist das?

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Ich werde dich töten, Cory. Ich werde dich töten, Cory. No, you look like a lefty hitter, dude. You think so? Oh, hell yeah, dude. Well, I'm a baseball guy, right? It's like I see these things. I can look at you and be like, no, I ain't a pitcher. Because you're built like a hitter. There's a different build, man. Ja, genau. I don't like it. I don't like it.

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So without further ado, Corey Cabana, welcome to the fucking show, dude.

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I feel like when they change rules, they are bending to the people that don't have a fucking attention span, that don't understand the game. It's like I'm a purist. I'm a purist, dude. Do not widen the bases for me. I don't care how long the game takes. I get that people are like, I don't want to watch a game. The header is grabbing his nuts, fits in his batting gloves. Remember Nomar Garcia-Para?

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But yeah, dude, I like that because anytime I can be watching a game or playing a game, Das ist für mich ein Entschluss. Ich mag es einfach nicht.

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You're in Miami. You're here in Naples. But dude, your schedule, man, it's crazy. My schedule's crazy. I'm just grateful you're sitting right here now.

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Es ist nicht das gleiche Spiel. Ich habe ein reales Show gemacht mit Peace of Grit Podcast, das ist mein Produktionsteams Podcast, way back in the day, maybe about a year ago, something that long ago, before they were even producing my show. Und wir kommen zu all dem. Und der Reel ging viral. Und ich hatte so viele Leute, die mich attackiert haben.

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Wie, oh, dieser Kerl weiß klar nicht, worüber er spricht. Baseball ist furchtbar. Sie mussten das Spiel vergrößern. Das ist der Grund, warum Bananenball so populär ist. Halt, stopp. Herzstopp. Eine ganz andere Sache. Danke. Eine ganz andere Sache. Wenn du Bananenball brauchst, um zu gehen. Ich meine, ich nehme meinen Sohn. Februar 14. Wir gehen. Es wird Spaß machen. But it's different.

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It's a whole different game. You can't even compare it.

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It's not the same. It's a show.

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This is what people say. They're trying to keep up with Banana Ball. And I think that's the problem. And they're not. At first they can't. Because it's completely different. It's again apples and freaking oranges here. But for someone who needs banana ball to enjoy baseball... Es ist ein völlig anderes Publikum. Es ist ein völlig anderes Publikum.

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Well, dude, it's just, dude, it's on brand, man. I was a ball player myself, you know. Absolutely. Didn't get to quite take it to where you have. But for the audience that doesn't know Corey G, Why don't you give them a little peek behind the curtain, man?

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Ja, und ich denke, eine Teil der Sache, die mich verrückt, ist, dass ich nicht verstehen kann, was Leute sagen, Baseball ist furchtbar. Weil sie in ein normales Baseballspiel gehen können oder es auf dem TV sehen. Das ist so langsam. Was sie nicht konzeptualisieren können, ist, wenn ich zurückkomme und sage, dass es auf dem Feld schnell geht. Es ist ein schnelles Spiel.

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Du bist nicht mehr mit Bananen.

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Yeah, no, it's great. And dude, it brings the families together. They have fun. They include the kids. Yeah.

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I would have never said that on air if I didn't know it was okay. Yeah, I know.

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Dude, so like, let me ask you a question. Because I'm a baseball guy, I'm like logistically thinking like, well, how can you read the ball out of the hand? Like, how is this safe?

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What's your team?

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This is where it was created.

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Ja, ja. Wow, okay.

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Ist das der Unterschied? Der Unterschiedmacher ist der kompetitive Aspekt?

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Ich fange im April ab.

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Nicht viel Frühtraining. Ich glaube, du wirst in der Dunkelheit trainieren.

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Well, I mean, not normal is good. Yeah, yeah. Not normal is good. You know, like, here's the thing, dude. And I want to... All these amazing things that you're talking about, the success and being yourself and you have these opportunities, you know, with the Banana Ball organization and now the Cosmic Chili Peppers. It's amazing shit, but it doesn't come without adversity.

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There was something that I think you maybe have told me, but there was a moment where you were

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Look what I do with these things.

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Eine letzte Frage für dich, Mann. Everything you've been through, the thing at Marshall, you know, the injury with, I can't even pronounce it. Ankylosing spondylitis. How about bamboo spine? We'll go there. With everything you've had, you've had to have an extreme amount of desire and determination. How did determination dictate how you operated every day to get to where you're at right now?

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Like, how's this going to serve me, right? So I think that's a great, dude, those are great points. And that's where I want the audience to kind of just, Und ich möchte, dass jeder versteht, dass jeder in seinem Leben durch Scheiß geht. Keiner kann wirklich ehrlich sagen, dass es schön muss. Wir gehen alle durch unsere Scheiße. Wir sind alle auf der Grinde. Wir sind alle entscheidend.

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Und wir drücken wirklich auf Dinge, die wir wollen. Aber das eine, was ich sagen würde, ist, wenn Dinge zu dir passieren, Anstatt die Gefängnis-Mentale zu nehmen, oh, ich bin schuld, oder warum passiert mir das wieder? Denk daran, wie mir das dient, und wie kann ich anderen in der Mitte dienen?

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Und wie viel besser werde ich, wenn ich davon rauskomme, damit ich einen Einfluss in diesem Weltraum machen kann? Das ist, was ich euch heute wirklich herausnehmen möchte. Dieser Mann, er wird weiterhin tolle Dinge machen. Es gibt große Dinge, die von ihm kommen, über die wir nicht sprechen können. Just keep watching. Go follow this man at Corey Cubano. His Instagram will be in the link.

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Go watch him play and really connect with him because he's an amazing dude. And guys, until next time, stay determined.

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During that time, he found ways to still put his brand out. He was being innovative and it led finally, not after one year or one video, sorry, literally two years of doing that. He got a tryout. Didn't make it, waited for the expansion, but he just didn't wait. He continued to make videos, honing his craft. My point to you guys is, you don't have to get ready if you stay ready.

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Also bist du von J.U. am Fußballspieler. Ja. Du hast deinen Identitätsschiff als Manager verändert.

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Es ist ein Fastball.

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That's determination, that's what the show's about. So what are you gonna do, fold your chin up and go home and cry? Dude, this is amazing.

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Lass mich, lass mich, ich möchte, ich möchte einen Moment pausieren, weil ich möchte, dass der Publikum etwas aufsteht. Ja. Also es wäre mir schlecht, nicht zurückzukommen zu diesem Thema. Ja. Jetzt, während es prudent ist. Audience, I want you to understand something.

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This man played Division One Baseball at a very high level and then was exited from the game and wasn't too proud to go manage a first watch restaurant. During that time, he found ways to still put his brand out. He found ways that he can showcase himself. And what I heard from you, Corey, was like, it didn't matter. You're asking somebody at the park to film you. You put it on a tripod.

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He was being innovative. And it led finally, not after one year or one video, sorry, or one month, literally two years of doing that. He got a tryout, didn't make it, waited for the expansion, but he just didn't wait. He worked in the background. See, he continued to make videos, honing his craft, getting in better shape. And he was ready.

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So like my point to you guys is like, you don't have to get ready if you stay ready. And he's epitome of that. And now you're still in it, man. Absolutely. That's determination. That's what the show is about. Yeah. So what are you gonna do? Fold your chin up and go home and cry? Absolutely.

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Ich liebe deine, Alter, weißt du, was ich, die eine Sache, die mir auf den Kopf kommt, wenn ich die Geschichte höre und mich besser kennenlerne, ist, Alter, du bist ein fucking Visionär. Ja. Und viele Visionäre, ich halte mich für einen Visionär, richtig? Und viele Visionäre sind oft missverstanden und unterappreizt, richtig?

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Und ich denke, es ist, weil, du weißt, aus der Außenperspektive ist es wie, es ist ein Threat. Wie, du bist ein Threat an diesem Punkt. Ja. Wie, du warst ein Threat. Oh, ja. Ja, natürlich. Ja, natürlich.

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Skip. Unglaublich. Ich habe 50 Dollar an einem Camp oder an seinem Badezimmer gemacht. Ich meine, Skip Burtman ist legendär. Ja. Ich war nicht going to say no to Skip. Ja. Ich gewinne und ich bin in Angst. Das ist verrückt. Es war eine Woche.

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It's amazing. The fact that they're going there and getting a great football education from CFL players und dann du, ein NFL-Spieler, aber die akademische Seite davon und die Dinge, die sie voll machen, weit über den Sport. Weil ich denke, wo Leute verloren gehen, und ich weiß, dass das wahr ist, weil ich es gesehen habe, und es ist besonders verrückt im Fußball.

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Eltern werden verdammt verloren, Bro. Sie verlieren ihre Kinder. Es muss so sein. Sie müssen 1.000 Spiele pro Jahr spielen. Meine Kinder müssen gesehen werden. Sie müssen rekrutiert werden. Aber sie lehren den Kindern nicht die anderen Sachen. Und der Fakt, dass deine Foundation auf die Grundlagen eines wunderschönen Menschen ist, Bildung, Nahrung. All that kind of stuff.

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Like, dude, that's going to help them outside of the sport.

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Also follow at the Sean French on Instagram, S-H-A-W-N, and at The Determined Society. So today, ladies and gentlemen, Ich habe mit mir jemanden, der vor vier Quartalen dieses Jahr im Superbowl gespielt hat. Er ist der startende defensive Back für die Washington Commanders. Mein Mann, Benjamin St. Jude. Was ist los, Alter? Was ist los, ich freue mich auf dich.

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It's fascinating, dude. It's fascinating. Because as a parent and then also as a coach, as a coach of baseball for many years, when you do a camp, you want those parents to see their kids light up when they come out of that camp. Like happy and fulfilled and armed with knowledge.

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And a lot of times it's just focused on the technical aspects of the sport, which is only a fraction of who they, it's not even who they are, it's what they do. Being a football player is not who you are. It's something that you do. Just like this is something I do. This is my profession. This is my job. It's not who I am. It's part of what makes me who I am.

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I think a lot of people get lost in that. Come on, man. I have. Have you ever had moments where you got lost in that?

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You're just Benjamin. That identity shift, right? I used to call it the identity crisis. I did a TED Talk on it. About my shift from being a collegiate baseball player at LSU, which is pretty much a professional baseball player. You get a lot of exposure there. And then, you know, the last house recorded, you're in, you know, 2003 in the College World Series in Omaha, Nebraska.

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Like, wait a second. What now? Like, who am I? I went on this journey of just burning bridges, hurting people because I was this massive void inside of me, right? I was just in so much pain. But the things that I've noticed lately is, you know, you touched on mental health, right, for those kids.

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Building the brand while you're in the actual peak part of your career, so that way you do have that pivot thereafter. I think it's so important.

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Danke, dass du mich kennengelernt hast, Mann. Ich bin froh, dass du hier bist. Es ist so lustig, du weißt nie, wer von dir fünf Türen runter geht, richtig? Fünf Türen runter. Ich habe es später herausgefunden. Ehrlich gesagt, als ich dir vorher gesagt habe, als ich nur gesagt habe, hi, weil du in der Nähe warst, war ich so, hey, was geht, Mann?

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Nein, der Lockerraum ist das Beste. Wir lernen viel über das Leben. In den Tränchen von Fußball oder Sport, Baseball, was auch immer der Sport ist. Aber zu deinem Punkt, wenn du fertig bist, wenn ich fertig war, war es so, als ich mein Resümee schrieb, 2003, College World Series, SEC-Champion. Du hast keine Erfahrung. Ja, du hast keine. Bro, was wolltest du von mir machen?

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Ich konnte nicht arbeiten, weil es illegal war. Ich wurde verabschiedet, um in einem Baseballcamp für meinen Haupt-Baseball-Coach zu arbeiten. Du, ich wurde verabschiedet, weil ich 50 Dollar verdient habe. Es ist verrückt. Es ist verrückt, Ben. You have no experience. Like, wait a second. I just did all this. I just did all this. Like, you know, what I was supposed to do.

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And now I'm not valued in society. And I think, and I know that's where a lot of mental health issues do happen for collegiate athletes. But even, but more so like Major League Baseball players or NBA players or NFL players, because they've gone an extended amount of time outside of college. And that's what they did. And they were known on a national level or world global level.

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And now they're just... Someone who doesn't have experience.

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Und ich versuche, mit dir zu sprechen, weil ich mit jedem spreche. Du wirst das sehen. Ich spreche mit meinen Häusern. Ich bin der Typ, der mit jedem spricht. Und dann sagt jemand, hey, hast du gewusst, dass er für die Kommandanten spielt? Ich bin so, ja. No way!

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Absolut. Athleten verstehen, dass Führung mehr eine Zusammenarbeit ist als ein Erzählen. Ja. Und ich denke, viele Leute, die keinen hohen Sport gespielt haben, denken, dass Führung das Managieren ist.

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1000%, 1000%, because it's like, you may consult with everybody, but at the end of the day, you might do what you're gonna do, but at least everybody feels heard, right? Everybody feels heard, and everybody collaborated in that final decision, it is what it is, right? The big thing, man, is why I think athletes are so... so erfolgreich, außer Sport, ist, weil wir den Spiel laufen.

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Wie du gesagt hast, 5 Uhr aufstehen, 6 Uhr aufstehen, meinen Körper füllen, meine Rückkehr machen. Ich schaue mich an meinen Tag, und ich weiß, dass ich um 4 Uhr aufstehe. Ich nehme meinen Kaffee, ich bin im Gym um 4.30 Uhr. Von 4.30 Uhr bis 4.50 Uhr, bin ich auf einem Abstand. Von 4.50 Uhr bis 5.45 Uhr, lege ich auf. Wenn ich nach Hause komme, schicke ich 6.15 Uhr. Ich habe alles,

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Und meine Frau weiß das nicht, weil sie denkt, dass ich unorganisiert bin. Ich bin ziemlich unorganisiert mit einigen Dingen. Ich sage es dir jetzt, ich bin ein Messer in vielen Bereichen. Aber ich weiß von der Zeit, in der ich morgens aufwache, jeden einzelnen Zeitpunkt, was ich tue. Und dann weiß ich, dass ich um 6.40 Uhr auf der Straße bin, um die Kinder für die Schule bereit zu machen.

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Ich habe bereits ihr Frühstück gemacht, ihre Frühstücke gemacht, nachdem ich mich gerettet habe. Aber jetzt habe ich alles gemacht. Und ich werde ihnen helfen, aus der Tür zu kommen. Und dann beginnt mein Tag.

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Und ja, als Athleten werden wir gelernt, es zu verdrängen, richtig? Und Athleten gehen durch eine massive Anzahl von Schwierigkeiten. Ich denke, jetzt ist es ein guter Kind von Segway hin zu, okay, du weißt, Kanada zu Michigan, spielte für Harbaugh, spielte dein früheres Jahr, viele Schnaps, viele Schnaps, richtig? Ja. Und dann gab es da ein bisschen Schwierigkeit, richtig?

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Gehen alle durch dein früheres Jahr, dann ein bisschen Schwierigkeit und dann transferieren zu Minnesota, dann letztendlich dritter Rundspiel, Mann. Was war diese Reise wie?

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Dude, Rudy's great.

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Yeah, you're doing great.

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Rudi ist großartig, er ist hysterisch. Aber du, die Nachbarschaft, es ist lustig, weil deine Frau einen guten Job macht. Sie macht einen guten Job in der Nachbarschaft, stoppt und spricht. Congratulations, baby girl.

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Das, was ich am liebsten von der Geschichte liebe, ist nicht, dass du in Minnesota ein gutes Jahr in 2019 hattest und als Dritter-Rounder eingeladen wurdest. Mein Lieblingspunkt der Geschichte ist, wie du dich mit diesem Herz beschäftigt hast. Wie hast du dich mit dem Bullshit befasst?

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19, das ist passiert, 19 Jahre alt, richtig? Das ist es, was ich wollen, dass sie entdecken, weil es jetzt Adoleszen sind, die in ihrem Scheiß sitzen. Drowning in it, right? And I've been there before. And I'm not for you watching, I'm pointing at you and you listening. I want you to take this into your ear holes. I'm not calling you out.

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But what I'm saying is where you're at right now is not necessarily need to be where you're going to end up. And we all have a choice, right? We have a choice every day to choose either forge forward and go after our dream or sit in the shit and ruin our life.

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Ja, Herr. Also, in diesem Moment. Du bekommst den Anruf von... Von Ron Rivera. Ja, Ron Rivera. Dieser Mann hat einiges verpasst, Alter. Er ist ein Geist, Alter. Aber du bekommst den Anruf. Wie war es in diesem Moment, wenn du mit deiner Mutter und deinem Vater verabschiedet bist?

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Das war alles, was mir in den Kopf ging. Das ist ein erstaunlicher Moment, oder? Es war. Weil ich hatte diesen Moment am anderen Ende. Ich saß da im Jahr 1999, also das war die 1999-Saison. Also das Jahr 2000, das Jahr, in dem LSU Stanford in der College World Series gewonnen hat. Und ich hatte, du weißt, professionelle Organisationen, du weißt, taggen mich als den Nr. 1 Catching Prospekt.

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Das ist Catcher. Und mein Trainer sagt mir so, hey, du kannst überall gehen, wo du willst, in der Schule. Ich bin so, naja, wo sind die Offers? Du weißt, und dann war es so, naja, du wirst wahrscheinlich am 1. Tag im Draft gehen. I fell off the board completely. Dude, Ben, I'm not joking. This was back when AOL had, it was dial-up internet. That's how old I am. He's like, dang, you old, bro?

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And then I noticed, and this is where I noticed I was different. I called my catching coach, Matt Brown. I lost touch with Matt Brown. I don't talk to him anymore. I don't know where he's at. Hell, if he listens to this, please reach out, because I would love to talk to this guy. Because he changed everything for me. He always believed in me. He always believed in me.

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I was like,

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Ich werde etwas von dir hier machen. Glaubst du, ich könnte in der LSU spielen? Er sagt, ohne Zweifel. Ich sage, okay. Er sagt, warum fragst du? Ich war wie, naja, der Draft ist vorbei. Ich habe keinen Platz, um zu spielen. Meine Karriere ist vorbei. Er ist wie, das sollte nicht passieren, Sean. Wir haben dich irgendwo verfehlt. Du solltest eine College Scholarship signen.

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Jetzt sage ich, naja, ich schalte einige runter. Ich sage, ich habe nur bemerkt, dass beide ihrer Catchers gedraftet wurden. Ich sagte, hast du einen? Er sagte, ich habe einen. Ich habe einen da drüben, ich werde ihn anrufen. Ich habe ihn angerufen. Zwei Tage später haben sie mich angerufen. Und ich habe mich ziemlich für Bücher und einen Lollipop eingeladen.

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Weil ich keine Leistung hatte, richtig? Ja. Aber der Punkt ist, das ist, als ich bemerkte, ich werde immer die Lösung suchen. Immer. Ich werde vielleicht schmerzen. Ich werde vielleicht im Moment depressiv sein. Ich habe die drei Tage emotional verletzt. Aber ich werde mich nicht definieren lassen. Das war eine schwierige Zeit, Alter. Ja, es war. Wie alt warst du, wenn das passiert ist?

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Also, ich hatte eine Blutstärke in meinem jüngeren Jahr. Also, das war mein drittjähriges Jahr. Also, ich war so 21, Alter. Also, ich habe einen späten Oktober-Tag, richtig?

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Julia, richtig? Ja, Julia. Julia. Okay, ja. Ich höre dich, Mann. Es ist schwer, weil unsere Kinder ihre Eltern nicht wählen. Sie wählen nicht, wer wir sind und was wir tun. Es ist schwer. Wie hast du das während der Saison umgebracht? Ich würde mir vorstellen, dass es für dich emotional schwer war. Okay. Meine Tochter ist brandneu und ich bin hier.

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Für viele Leute, Bro. Und Bro, nach dem 20, nach dem 19, 1998-Saison, mein erstes Jahr in der Schule, bin ich in großartiger Form geworden. Ich wurde lecker. Ich war nicht mehr fettig. Und dann habe ich eine Blutstärke bekommen. Eine Blutstärke. Und alle Offers sind aus dem Tisch gegangen. Und dann komme ich zurück. Also, ich verliere ein ganzes Jahr. Und dann bekomme ich noch ein Jahr.

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Also, ich habe 426 gespielt. Ich habe es zerstört. Und dann kein Draft. Und dann LSU für nichts. Und dann, als ich da war, wurde ich verletzt. Ich hatte eine Surgery, also ich bin immer noch an diesem Punkt kämpft, um über Wasser zu bleiben. Und ich denke einfach, dass diese Momente sind, was uns in stressgefüllten Situationen macht, die ich jetzt durchführe.

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Ich bin nicht davon ausgegangen, warum ich da bin, aber ich bin davon ausgegangen, was ich jetzt mache.

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Ich glaube, das ist der Buy-in, Bro. Der Buy-in? Der Buy-in, das ist der Anti-Buy-in. Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja.

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Das war wild, Bro.

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Das ist einfach nur der Anfang für deine Organisation. Das ist ein Teil davon.

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Ich versuche, irgendwo zu kommen, wo wir in den letzten 31 Jahren noch nicht gewesen sind. Aber du hast auch deinen kleinen Herzschlag, der außerhalb deines Körpers schläft, zu Hause zu schlafen.

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Das ist hervorragend. Aber das ist es, was dich macht, richtig? Du kannst das tun. Ich denke, das ist etwas, was jeder Athlet, jeder Entrepreneur, jeder Mutter, jeder Vater, egal, was du tun könntest, was du besser tun könntest.

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I love it, man. I love it. That's a great perspective. And no doubt you guys will be back. You'll be on top of your game next year because now you're getting to that next version of Ben, right? To where you get the opportunity to really self-evaluate and just like, okay, what was it? And when you're least expecting it, you'll find out. Das war es.

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Und dann weißt du, du attackierst diesen Moment da und diese spezielle Sache. Und dann nächstes Jahr hast du das Jahr, das du haben willst. Und nächstes Jahr das gleiche. Und dann siehst du zurück, acht Jahre später und denkst dir, verdammt. Hey, das war eine 12-Jahre-Karriere, Mann. Die Rückseite, die acht Jahre, Mann, ich war der Typ. Ich war der Typ. Das ist das Ziel.

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Das ist das, wofür wir sind. Ja, du wirst es bekommen. Du wirst es bekommen, Mann. Bevor wir aufs Flugzeug fahren, du siehst frisch aus, Bruder. Erzähl mir das, Bruder. Die Original. Das ist deine Kleidungsbranche, oder? Ja, das ist die Branche da. Ich weiß, wo du lebst, also weiß ich, wo du herkommst. Ich habe ein paar. Ja, ich liebe das, Mann. Erzähl mir das Hintergrund der Branche und alles.

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Ich sage dir, Mann, ich kann auf den Gramm gehen und auf dich und deine Frau schauen. Sie sind immer fit. Sie sehen immer gut aus. Ich bin wie, verdammt, schau dir diese Jungs an. Schau dir diese Jungs an. Ich habe eigentlich ein Shirt für dich. Es ist nicht hier. Ich bringe es dir nach Hause. Wir haben jetzt auch Merch. Ich möchte dir eines unserer Shirts anbieten. Unser Link ist heute auch live.

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Wir machen es nicht so, wie du es machst, aber es ist etwas anderes. Ich liebe deine Mission. Ich liebe, worum du bist. Und ich habe heute viel über dich gelernt, Mann. Du bist ein deep-ass-Dude. Ich respektiere das Scheiß aus ihm. Begrüße es. Gleichfalls, Mann. Danke, Bruder.

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Wir werden es machen, Mann. Das coole an dem Spiel war für mich, dass ich die Möglichkeit hatte, jemanden etwas tiefer zu kennen. Denn wir sind fünf Jahre von einander entfernt, Mann. Es ist immer ein Verlangen. Jetzt sind unsere Konversationen und unsere Freundschaften viel anders. Vielen Dank. Thank you so much. Go ahead and follow Ben.

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We're going to drop all his links here, even to his website for his clothing brand. If you feel compelled, go check it out. Buy something nice for yourself or your family. And until next time, guys, stay determined.

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You know, it's interesting because I had a conversation with my wife last night, right? And the show has gotten to a point where we're getting the opportunity to do cooler things. Like we're getting to go places. Excuse me. And that's going to, that's going to take time away from me being home. And the direct response was, is it going to be like this every month?

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Because, you know, your son has, our son has baseball. The girls have gymnastics. And I'm like, Und ich denke mir, oh mein Gott, ist das wirklich so, wie wir es jetzt machen? Wir haben vier Jahre lang diese Plattform gebaut. Jetzt explodiert sie. Wir müssen das kapitalisieren, oder es war für nichts. Aber gleichzeitig verstehe ich es, Mann. Ich verstehe es.

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Und unsere Wife sieht uns komplett anders. Deine Wife sieht dich als Fußballspieler nicht, Alter.

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Ich werde nicht da sein. Ich liebe es. Das ist wie das Thema, richtig? Jeder spricht von Balance als Entrepreneur und du bist auch ein Entrepreneur. Wir werden dazu kommen. Aber sie sprechen von Balance, richtig? Du kannst alles in deinem Leben nicht balancieren. Es ist, es ist wirklich unmöglich.

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Und ich sage immer, es geht darum, wenn du diese Zeit hast, bist du vollständig und du hast das erreicht. Wie sind einige der, und ich werde von dir lernen, gerade jetzt, weil ich eine schwierige Zeit habe, aufzuhalten. Ja, wie mein Dude, es ist schwer. Wie hast du es geschafft, zu sagen, okay. I'm going to leave my phone over here when it's time to be with the baby and the wife.

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I'm going to go on a walk and not bring my phone. How do you deal with that?

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Du hast jeden Faktor des Shows getroffen. in einer Teilnahme der Gespräche. Aber das ist die Sache, richtig? Also, selbst mit deinem Job, Fußball, deiner Beziehung, Zeit mit deinem Kind, die Läufe, alles. Es ist so, dass alles in der Leben auf die Disziplin und Zertifizierung hinweist, richtig? Wie diszipliniert bist du in diesen Momenten, in denen du den emotionalen Motivationsbereich nicht hast?

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Und, Alter, ich bin motiviert, vielleicht sage ich Leuten das, und ich weiß nicht, es kann mehr sein. Ich bin motiviert, vielleicht drei bis vier Tage im Monat. Ich will nicht ab 4 Uhr morgens auf die Gym gehen. Aber ich mache es, weil ich gesagt habe, ich würde. Ich versuche hier etwas zu bauen und es gibt Disziplinen jeden Tag.

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Und ich weiß, wenn ich all diese kleinen Dinge tue, werde ich in diese Person wachsen, die das verdient. 100 Prozent. Weißt du, das ist für mich alles.

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You're a deep-ass dude. Like, I respect the shit out of it.

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Und dann denke ich, was die Leute lernen, was ich gelernt habe, und ich bin sicher, dass du das beurteilen kannst, ist, dass Du bildest dich in jemanden, der, wenn das eine nicht funktioniert, bereit ist, das nächste zu machen. Weil das Leben wird Dinge an dich werfen. Du wirst Scheiß-Sandwiches essen. Es wird, es wird Zeiten geben, wo du denkst, was ist los?

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Aber solange wir konsistent bleiben in diesen Momenten, in denen die Leute nicht sehen, wenn wir die Arbeit machen und es ist leise. Das ist das, was die nächste Version von dir bauen wird. 1000%. So, real quick, so you grew up in Canada, Montreal, Canada. And, you know, I think, did you play hockey, too?

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How many kids from Canada make it to the league?

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How does that feel for you? Because I mean, it's great to be in the NFL. Du stellst den Beispiel für Kinder in deinem Land, was möglich ist.

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Wir werden diese Bereiche rekrutieren. Das ist interessant. Das ist lustig, aber ich verstehe es. Ich verstehe es völlig. Du hast etwas gesagt, das ich sehr interessant fand. Du hast dir gesagt, du hast dir versprochen, dass wenn du es der Liga gemacht hättest, du es zurückgeben würdest. Nun, du führst den größten amerikanischen Fußballklinik in Kanada.

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Und es wird hier in den USA sehr selten gesprochen. Kannst du den Publikum überlegen, wie du zurückgeben kannst zu den Jugendlichen und was es für dich und die Gemeinschaft bedeutet?

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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French. Before I introduce today's amazing guest, and it's going to be a great one, you're going to love him, please, if you haven't already subscribed to the YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts, please click that follow button and let us know what you think.

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I love that shit. Yeah. That's fantastic. And you're saying, to go back real quick, though, President Biden's the one that signed that. He did. Well, there's something good.

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She's a best-selling author and a philanthropist, and welcome to the show, Janae.

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Give him his one thing.

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You've got the one, dude. It's so funny. I never leave a bad comment on any type of social media, except when I see Biden's name on Twitter or X, whatever the hell it's called now. And Obama said something today or yesterday, tweeted that Joe's presidency was amazing and everything. I said, my response was, huh, what? Like, what are we talking about here?

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You know, and I'm not a, and everybody will admit, I'm not a big political guy. You know, this is the most like, you know, that realm I've talked about on my show, but I'm excited about it. Right. Because it's not like, are you a Trumper or are you a leftist? Right. Like it's not that. And I just truly feel that what we really need to do is come together as America. Right.

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I'm excited you're here. It's like, I feel like I know you already, right? Because it's like, that's the power of social media, right? You get connected through people that you already know, love and trust. And it's like, when you meet somebody else and you're brought into the circle, it's like, okay, I already know that person.

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It's not about the party, but it's about the mission of of our country. And are we doing things for our people?

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Right. Our people. Now, I'm not saying that we don't need to help out. But I'm saying like, hey, we're hurting right now. America's hurting a little bit. And I know it probably started way before that. And, you know, the match was, you know, the pilot light was already lit, but COVID exploded it.

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You know, to where, you know, there's family members that don't consider themselves family members anymore. There's friends that don't speak to each other anymore because one's a Republican and one's a Democrat. How fucking dumb is that?

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They don't. They don't. They don't hate each other. So if you look at the WWE and the WWF, completely unrelated, but it's a soap opera. Well, what do you think this is? What do you think this is? You know, a lot of it could be staged. Like, we don't know what's going on. But my favorite is always when Trump was debating with Biden, he's like, yeah, I just don't know what he said.

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And I really don't think he does either.

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That was a really good one. Funny story. Have you seen the new Jamie Foxx special?

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Okay, on Netflix, do it. He does the best Trump impersonation. He does a better Trump than Trump. It's incredible. It's fucking hysterical. Your work, your activism, right? What you're doing, your mission is very brave, right? And, you know, we can go, I want to go into, you know, you being one of the first people deployed after 9-11, right? But first, it's like, you're not just a single one.

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You have kids, right? You married? Daughters. Recently divorced. Okay, so, but you have a family. I do. And like, you are putting yourself at risk. for the betterment of the country. So you're out of the military. You're no longer putting your life, you know, on the line there, but you still are. That's a real soldier.

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Right. So, I mean, it's pretty cool, but you just flew in. Yes. You had a nice flight.

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Yeah. Yeah. You look happy. You don't look like it was too bad.

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It's like the opposite, right?

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Did you? You can sleep on a plane?

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What do you think fuels all this?

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No man wants to say that Jimmy sexually assaulted me.

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Yeah, it's a different trauma. Like we I mean, that's just like, you know, people can be traumatized from losing a grandparent or a parent. But the sexual trauma, you know, sexual assault trauma is different. Same with hazing. It's like it's all a different type of shit. All three of them suck.

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You know, very much so. Right. But the fact of the matter is, you know, and again, I don't want to I don't. probably shouldn't say this, but I would say like getting over a grandparent passing or a parent passing and, or even, you know, being hazed depending on the level of the hazing.

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I don't want to be insensitive to that, but like those two things there, I think in my mind are more conceivably like easier to work through, through therapy. But when you're sexually assaulted and you're not even that, that root problem, that root thing is not being, you know, helped through, you know, medical attention. Like that, that's how people kill themselves.

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So let's, let's go there like that.

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Thank you. Yeah. I mean, now I'm not saying like hazing in school and bullying doesn't get kids to kill people. I, I don't, you guys know what I'm saying, right? Like I'm not here to make any definitive statement, but it's just like, I'm looking at him like, If it's sexual trauma, sexual assault trauma, you can't treat it like hazing.

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Just as long as he tags you. Exactly. Like, send a collab, dude. Maybe here, send a collab, so that way she gets all the analytics.

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41 different. I saw you speaking on something maybe if right after the election. Yes. What was that?

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And all the people that want to learn her sleeping journey. And she's a mouth breather.

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And there was and you were catching heat about something. And I think you were rebuttaling it. I watched it. I don't remember the details. But because I mean, it was like three, four weeks ago, right?

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So he would still have a life.

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And these were all men.

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God almighty. This is funny because I said, oh, you can sleep on a plane. I can't. I have to have, my nerves ride me when I'm traveling. Now, recently, over the last couple of years, they've gotten much, much better. I had this job that I had to travel for. I had to go to Portugal. I was white knuckling it the whole way. I was like, this plane goes down, we're in the water here.

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I think most people, I mean, I think probably everybody that's asking that question doesn't know shit about the military. Exactly. Or the ranking system, right? It's just, it's just wild to me, man. So if you were to go in, right, and like one of those men, if they fought back and said no, could they be sent to the brig for that or...

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But none of it came up when they were getting screened.

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Yeah. And you're giving them the voice, right? You're fighting for them. Like you're putting a name to the trauma. You're putting a name to the story. You are fascinating. I'm so grateful you're here right now. You know, when you do these, you're like always looking forward to the conversation. But this is, I mean, I don't know if you realize, but like almost 45 minutes has just flown by. Yeah.

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It's amazing. Like this is great conversation. And I think I know my audience is really going to love this. So what can we expect from you this weekend?

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It's going to be like, there's going to be a serious rescue mission going on, right? But I just think of all the bad shit. And over the last couple of years, like now, like it used to affect me going through TSA. Like I swear my wife probably hated traveling with me because every time I say something like, oh, why don't you just be nice about it?

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Okay. Okay. See, I thought that I had, so it's funny, like not to interrupt, but like, I, I thought I read that or learn that on your page, but then I got it mixed up. Cause the same day I listened to my buddy's podcast and, and he had a woman on there that was also silent. So I'm like, so I told my team, I'm like, wait, no, no, no, maybe I got this all fucked up.

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Hopefully it comes out naturally and it did. So perfect.

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Like, I'm just like, I'm not happy about getting on this plane, but now it's like, it's cool.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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Hey, turn this shit around. You guys are going the wrong way. And you're like, oh, my God, is this thing hijacked? Like, what the fuck? So you're sitting there and you're looking for the air marshal.

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I just know. Yeah, the engine's blown out. We're so screwed. Why is this bird flying this high? Yeah. Crazy. You want to know something that's happened to me recently? I'm not going to say his name because I don't want to get in trouble. But but like I where was I? Oh, I was coming back from where when I met Michael and Tim in Traverse, Michigan, when we were hanging out with Eric Thomas.

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So I'm way back. I hop on a flight. All right. It was my connecting flight. No, it was my first flight. I'll get this right. I promise you I will. Sorry, guys. Hang with me. You know I'm not very smart. So I get on the plane in Traverse, and my connecting flight was Charlotte. And, like, I'm sorry. Like, every time you connect at night in Charlotte, you are fucked.

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Like, so, but I roll up to my seat and it's like right against like the front part and it's like where the bathroom is. And like, so I couldn't do this, but there was this gentleman sitting there on the end and, you know, he gets up, you know, and he's got a, you know, like a sweatshirt on, got some slick back hair, a cool little goatee. I'm like, this is a fucking badass. I like this guy.

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But he got out, was super kind. And, you know, we didn't have anybody in the middle of us and we were able to have this amazing conversation, just getting to know each other. I'm thinking...

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this motherfucker's an air marshal like straight out and I said to him I looked at him I go you take the first shift I'll take the second shift and he goes you're gonna why are you why are you quoting bridesmaids I'm like you know why I'm quoting bridesmaids he goes he goes dude I'm I get I'm he goes I'm not I go he goes no I go Okay. Sure. Sure, buddy. I know how this goes.

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So we just start having great conversation. Um, you know, he asked me what I do and I told him about all this and he's like, Whoa, this is fascinating. Can you show me your page? So I showed him my Instagram. He goes, can I follow it? I'm like, absolutely. And, and he goes, Hey, do you mind? I go, dude, I'm gonna follow you back. Don't worry.

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As I followed him back and we started like having this friendly conversation, talk about our families. I'm like, so man, what do you do? And I just, I just, he's like, well, you know, I'm in, I'm in department of defense. I'm like, no shit. You are. I'm like, of course you are. And he starts laughing. He's like, no, that's not what I do.

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But I do gun trainings for organizations and things like that. Just I'm like, so you're the Department of Defense and you do gun trainings for like corporations, but you're not an air marshal.

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He goes, correct. I'm like, cool, man. And we just had this great conversation. And before we get off the plane, he gives me his card. He's like, hey, just... Give me a call sometime, man. You got my cell number in your phone already, but here are my other numbers. If you ever have any questions, give me a call. He's like, it's a little bit more involved than what I told you.

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And I didn't even think to look at it yet. I'm like, all right, man, I'll be in touch because I was late for my next flight because we sat on the tarmac for an hour and a half. So long story short, I get back to the hotel room that was conned because Americans screwed it up. They have enough people working so we can get off the plane. I look at the car. Senior Air Marshal. I texted him.

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I'm like, you motherfucker. I knew it. He's like, oh, yeah, you're a regular FBI agent. To this day, me and this gentleman speak every day via text. Absolutely adore him and his family. And yeah, so.

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And so I said like, hey, dude, did you know that I knew? He's like, yeah, I knew that you knew. He's like, but I can't tell you. Like, I can't tell you.

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Right. And I said, how many, like, how many times have I been on a flight with an air marshal? And he goes, probably won't, probably never. Because it's very rare that you're actually on a flight.

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Right? The percentages, right? All the flights in the world and all the people taking them, you know? But he texts me, picture everywhere he goes. Everywhere he goes, like, oh, I'm in Germany. And the next day he's in Maui. I'm like, what the heck's going on? But that's not what the show's about, right? Still sounds like- Shout out to my guy. It's pretty cool.

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Well, listen, when I make it big, he's gonna be my security. There you go. I already told him that. He's like, I'm hiring you. I'm hiring you. He's like, you can't do that thing. Oh, well, you know, I don't need bodyguard yet. You might. I know you do. Every once in a while. We'll get to that.

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Oh, shit. I don't know. Oh, yeah.

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You might be on the hit list here.

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Yeah. Yeah. Maybe like a disguise or something.

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Yeah, exactly. shit. Remind me not to stand next to you at all tomorrow. So listen, okay.

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So we're already on it, right? Let's hit it. So you talk about the work you do. What's the audience, the type of work that you're talking about that is leading to this conversation?

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I mean, she's not a toddler.

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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French. And if this is the first time you are listening to the show, please hit subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts. Follow the journey along.

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Wow. Yeah. I mean, like, honestly, like. That's just sad. It's really, it's really sad. And like, you know, as a civilian, I've never been, you know, a service member, but you know, when, as a civilian, you look at the United States military and you look at the overall mission is to serve and protect.

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Right. And it's just unfortunate. I'm like thinking like this whole time, I'm like, you know, I've got two beautiful daughters. I got a son also, right? 11 year old son, eight year old daughter, six year old daughter. And it's like, wow. So you mean to tell me that the service may not even be a safe place for them.

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Start at episode number one and just listen to the growth because we've made some crazy, crazy leaps and bounds, quantum leaps in the show over the last four years. So super happy. Today, I have an amazing guest to share with you. Her name is Janae Sergio. She's a bestselling author, former service woman, doing amazing things in the community to bring a lot of light to certain subjects.

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That's wild shit, man. That's wild. It's scary.

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Kanye, the Super Bowl thing was an absolute shit show. What the fuck's this guy's deal? Wife wears a naked dress and then there's talks of a separation now?

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Dude, so what do you think is going on, right? Because we have reports stating that they are not moving forward. There are rumors. We're staying together. We're looking to work it out. Yes, what does that look like, though? I mean, you're a family law attorney. You've seen this many times play out, right? Where does this go from here? Where do you think it goes? Yeah.

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I'm super excited. We had a good conversation over the weekend before we recorded. We had a fun kind of off-the-air conversation prior. So the juices are flowing here. We've got the creative juices going right now.

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Great points, right? We don't know. Like we, we don't live there. It's not for us to judge. We can only assume and kind of put the storyline together and it's, you know, it's entertainment, right? As well. But how, here's my thought. What if it was just a fucking stunt?

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What if it was staged?

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I'll never understand it.

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Wouldn't it bring more light to it? Like, here he goes again.

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I need a good one, but neither was a Superbowl link.

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Let's do this. Well, first, let's talk to the tell the audience a little bit that may not know who you are. Give them a little rundown of your background, you know, where you're from, what you're doing and all that kind of good stuff.

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Yeah. You know, one t-shirt.

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Like, yeah, let's, let's get real. That's, you know, also to shame on, I'm sorry. Shame on the TV, right? Shame on the Superbowl. Like, how do you not proofread or look at what that link's going to pull up when you, when you put it on the TV?

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I wonder how many streams. Kanye West on Spotify or Apple Music or any Pandora, any type of platform has taken place since the Super Bowl and since this has gone out.

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I mean, I don't know. Okay. So let's, let's spill the tea here. So two months before that trial, the Diddy trial. Yeah.

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Shit, man, that's my late grandma's birthday. Can they come up with a different date? Shit.

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I'm very interested in this, obviously, because it's... I mean, you see the... You hear people talking, you know, and there was people on social media for years warning everybody about this, right? How this was all going to all come out. And then, you know, then it did. And then there's all of a sudden these videos of Diddy literally beating the shit out of his girlfriend. Was it Ciara? Ciara?

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Yeah. On film. On film. And it's just like... damn and there's documentaries out already everything came so quickly with this with with p diddy um and and just everything like all the platforms like hulu and max like they have all these different the the fall of p diddy like it's it's a lot to take in yeah

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No, I agree. I mean... Listen, you and I were talking before we hit record, going back all the way to the OJ trial. You were in law school. I was younger, too. I remember it. I remember the day. I was going to a baseball game that I was playing at, and these reports came out that OJ allegedly killed his ex-wife and her friend. And I'm like, there's no way. This is wild.

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I remember I was going to Brentwood, California to play a summer baseball game. And this, this thing exploded and you couldn't help but be in front of the TV and watching it like to see a popular, a public figure like that. Be reduced to the most simplest. You are just a normal human being.

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You've never got a Bronco, did you?

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See, look at that. I love that. I love that for you. You got rid of it?

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It was too big for me. It was too big for me. So I know how someone like myself would view these trials, the P. Diddy thing. I mean, for me, I'm just going to be honest. Entertainment.

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Yeah, but then also like, yo, dude, if this is all true, I hope you fucking pay for it. Like I, I, you know, I don't want this, you know, if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit type bullshit. I mean, we talked about that too, you know, like, no, if you did all this, man, and you're guilty, you need to pay for it, man.

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Cause there's all these people's lives that have been impacted over the years that don't have regular relationships with men that don't have regular relationships with people or even careers because they've been impacted by this trauma, right? And in all the while, how much of empowerment does that take away from a woman to deal with that? Or the men. I mean, there are more victims.

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I mean, how about the video servicing of Justin Bieber in the club? Like the insinuation of what he allegedly was made to do in a club.

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As a child.

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It's like, okay, so then it begs the question of like, okay, so this guy really does have this much pull in that industry that he can say yes or no on an individual as an artist to whether they are going to blow up and have a great career or not.

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You're selling a different product to a different subset, which is the jury, right? Yeah.

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Okay. Here's the thing, though. Here's the thing. The reality is all those things are obviously true, right? Upholding the Constitution, that's your fiduciary responsibility. But you guys are also human, right? And so it's like when I look at this, I admire you guys. I admire attorneys, even in family law.

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There's going to come a day where a family law attorney is representing a male or female that they know is in the wrong and they have to give them their best day in court. And it could conflict with their moral or core beliefs, right? Like, yeah, this person potentially could be bad.

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So I just admire you guys for being able to, I guess, filter that information and be like, okay, you know, the defense attorney for OJ, right? The defense attorney for P. Diddy, right? And all those kinds of things, like to be able to flush that and do the job right

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And trying to prove, right, or not prove innocence, but, you know, bring down the, you know, guilty by any stretch of the imagination, right, beyond a reasonable doubt. Like, to me, that is, that's intense.

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There's so much to unpack there. And the thing that I can say what I enjoyed mostly was just hearing the real time, not the real time, but the real life. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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There you go. Some good influences in your life. I'm actually going to be I'm going to be in Houston the end of this month.

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Thank you.

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I would love that. I would love that. It's for a wedding, though. So I can't bolt, you know, got to be there.

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Or a steak and a drink, done.

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Absolutely. We could talk about that for sure. For sure. But no, family law is crazy. There's a lot of different things that can go on in family law, right? And I think the big thing that always ties in if there's kids involved, property, assets. But dude, there's some interesting things going on right now in the news media.

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No, we haven't. And that's why America spoke what they spoke, right? And it's really sad. And it's almost victim mentality to hear, like, we're just not ready for a woman president. That's not true.

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It's not true at all. I think America is ready and willing and wanting that. Wanting that. But I also think...

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They'd have a dope ass house for a little while, though.

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That shit would be wild. I don't even think that doesn't even sound appealing to me whatsoever.

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Well, I mean, I'm from Cali.

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You keep the death threats. You keep all the bullshit. You know, I'm going to live a normal life.

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The impact on the family is just so tremendous. You know, it's just too much, but we'll look here. This was amazing. We talked some good stuff, man. We talked some really good stuff.

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We didn't. We did. You will have to have you back, but I want it to be in person.

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Or when I come to Texas, we'll figure something out.

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We'll figure something out. Hey, you know what we'll do? You know what we'll do? You know what we'll do? What? We'll get Valerie on it.

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We're in Naples, but Miami is like down the road. So if you're in Miami, we'll get it worked out. That's easy.

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I would love that. That'd be fun. That'd be a lot of fun. We'll do it again for sure. We'll do it again in person for certain, but, but no, thank you so much. You know, I had a, we've never talked about the certain topics. So my audience is like, what's going on? Cause I, you know, I'm, I'm broadening my topics and in, in my range here, what we're talking about on the show is,

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No. That could be bad. That could be bad. Un's bad.

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And, you know, these types of things is what's in the news cycle. People are talking about it and wanting to know about it. So thank you for for stretching me today, because like for real, that's it was different than anything we've ever done. And it was fun.

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So where can my audience check you out? You do speaking engagements. Do you have your you have two books like talk? I mean, let's let's direct everybody.

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Okay. Awesome. So, Kanye. I mean, there's been a lot of stuff going on with him, right? The Super Bowl thing was an absolute shit show.

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I love it. Michelle, thank you so much. I look forward to continuing the relationship and the new friendship, and it won't be the last that we have conversations. I can tell you that. I dig it. You're amazing, and there's a lot we could do together.

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Now, for the audience that had just listened or watched this show, I want you to share the episode with somebody that you know, love, and trust that needs to hear this or that is interested in some of the topics that we spoke about.

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Or if you're in Texas, and shamelessly, if you're going through something that you need some family law advice, do not hesitate to look her up and schedule a consultation. So with that being said, guys, thank you so, so much for tuning in. Once again, your viewership and your loyalty is always appreciated. Until next time, stay determined.

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Sarah French, what up?

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What the fuck's this guy's deal?

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I feel like that's happened like five times. I feel like that's happened to him five times.

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It's constant. It was Taylor Swift, right? I mean, that was a long time ago. Now we have this. So the most recent one is what? Wife wears a naked dress and then there's talks of a separation now?

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Who told you about the washboard abs?

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I don't think so. I know what you're talking about.

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What it sounds like from what you're saying, you know, obviously the quote of, I have complete dominion over my wife, that's an abusive statement, right? Yeah. That means you feel you own her, right? Is that what that really means? Right. And then also the whispering in the ear, do this now. Do this now. Right. It's kind of how I'm interpreting it.

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And to me, it's just like, what do you think is really going on when you say silencing her? Like, I don't understand this. Right. There's another topic we'll get to in a little bit that that has been, you know, talk widely talked about by silencing. Right. It's like, I guess I just don't understand that world. Right. It's like, what does that actually mean and how can it actually happen?

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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French. I have an amazing guest today, but first, please hit the button to follow the show on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. I have an amazing Texas attorney today, one of the top attorneys in the state of Texas. She's amazing. She's dynamic.

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Now, so when you were talking about Kim Kardashian, were you hinting around the fact that there was moments where Kim was also controlled or potentially controlled by Kanye West?

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So there's a massive difference between Bianca and Kim Kardashian, right? To your point, right? You know, just from like a family standpoint, Kim's unit, everybody's together. I'm not saying Bianca's is not. I don't know about her family. I don't know.

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kim kim has fuck you money like you can't control her right the family has fuck you money correct like you're not gonna you're not gonna get the same result she's gonna be like yeah okay dude try it like yeah go ahead i think more people like me than they like you dude right yeah um but for this girl it's concerning right because well she may not have that financial stability like a kardashian has i

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She has a hell of a resume, and we're so blessed to have her today. Michelle O'Neill, welcome to the show.

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Audience, I want you to tune into this, like literally lock the fuck in right here. From nine years old, you were incarcerated and you were incarcerated for the next seven years.

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You know, it's funny you mentioned that because, you know, you and I have been talking a lot and, you know, John's name has come up. We talk about turning adversity into opportunity. And I feel like most successful people will take the darkest days in their life, right? There's some things right now that I opened up to you before the show that's going on in my personal life that is not

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not optimal man you know it's not the best situation but it's like out of that adversity is going to come opportunity i didn't know where it was coming from you and i spoke and like oh we could do something together here right like holy shit like in in in what i want the audience to really understand about what i'm saying and you know borderline tangent is Stop judging what you're going through.

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Like, you know, and I'm looking at the camera because I want the audience to understand, like, so many people judge the adversity that they're going through. Absolutely. Why me? Why am I going through this? I'm a good person. Why is this happening? It's just like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But what I've learned this time around is I'm just... in baseball terms, we say, wear it.

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Just like you'd wear a pitch. Yep. Let that ball hit you and let it burn, man. Yeah. And it's like, because it's building me. That's right. It's like, it's building me. It's like, wait a second, dude, this is serving me in such a positive way. I don't know what it is yet. I'm surely not going to judge the obstacle, but I'm surely not going to judge the opportunity either. Right.

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So I think what I want the audience to get out of it is like, whatever you're going through, Just submit to it. Lean into it. Like, literally, you know, lean into it. Like, it's your first kiss or your, you know, you may now kiss your bride or, you know, whatever. And you lean into it. Lean into that struggle.

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Because on the other side of that struggle is the person who you have become because of all that struggle.

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So my guest today, his name is Brad Miller, and he is the owner and founder of Southern Tier Telecommunications, and he's just an amazing guy, and he's done some amazing things in his career and built an amazing freaking business that would blow your mind, but it didn't come without hardship, and we're gonna get into the story of who Brad is today.

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Sorry, this is everything to me right now. Right, because I've had multiple conversations lately. Like a buddy of mine said that he would go to bed at night wishing he would wake up and look like this certain wrestler. It was on a show. And I said, wow, that's powerful because if that would have happened, then you would have robbed yourself of who you were gonna become in that journey.

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Most people are so interested, like you said, the instant gratification, and that comes with social media. Make a million dollars in 90 days. First of all, guys, if you ever believe any of that shit, you deserve to get swindled. Sorry. And you will. You will, because you cannot make a million dollars in 90 days. You cannot. I don't care what they say, okay? You can one exit, 10 exit, 39 exit.

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I don't give a shit. You're not making a million dollars in 90 days. Anyway, I'm moving on now. Said my piece on my sub lock, but, but like, but right. So what, what we want is we want to fast forward all that. Right. Yes. And we're forgetting that, you know, from this point of contention or, or fear based or a big losing streak, we want to skip all the way here to win the fucking world series.

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So without further ado, my man, welcome to the show.

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You got, well, Hey, um, these are macro results here. Yeah. Okay. The big losses are from past decisions that either you or I have made, right? And there's many of them that created this loss. And then the big win is a series of decisions that people don't see every day. And that creates the win. Now, all the micro stuff in between, that's the joy, right?

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Because that's where you experience the pain. That's where you experience the tears. That's where you experience the camaraderie between friendships, right?

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This is like, this is, I got goosebumps right now. Like I just, I just absolutely adore and love you and the family. And you know, we, we had, thank you. We had such an amazing time for Marina's birthday. We have many, many good moments. Oh, we have, we've done, we've met each other and we we've had Halloween where I danced on your lap in the golf cart.

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That's when you start understanding what actually works for you, where you dive into yourself, you dive into your business, you dive into your body, you dive into your mind, you dive into your spouse, your children, and your spirituality, and then you crush it because you became an absolute bulletproof monster here in the micro movements. Yes. Who wants to do that? No one.

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Jackie tells me all the time, listen, dude, you're a dreamer. I get it. I love it. But you get excited about things and you don't think about the downfalls in between, right? You just jump in and go. That's right. And it pisses me off. But it's true. It's true. That's why it pisses me off. It's called grounding you. Exactly. Sometimes I don't want to be grounded. None of us do.

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I wish that moment would come out. And then we've done Friendsgiving.

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Right. But she's right. But then she follows up with it. But that's what also makes you really great. That's correct. But sometimes you need me to say, Hey bro, which is incredibly important.

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Right. And then we recently did, I missed New Year's. Thank God I did because I heard you. That was a good place to miss. I'm glad we did. And then Marina's 36th birthday. That's right. That was so much fun at Ember. Yeah.

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Well, that's what the brand is.

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They think it's the product. The brand is who the freak you are. Yeah. Like what? I mean, yeah, we're on the same page.

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Yeah, too bad we had to go home because we had a sitter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fun continued, but... I'm sure it did. I'm sure it did. I'm really kind of jealous and also kind of scared to ask.

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I want you to finish the story, but it's important because I want the audience to understand the type of woman she is because I've experienced it because I know her. Yes. But to have a 23-year-old girl, a young woman at that time, have that type of clarity about what she wants. And really, that was not about her. That was about what she saw in you.

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And if you do not execute it, you are not showing me who you are, who I know you are.

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Oh, we've done backyard social together. That was a fun night. That was the first night we met.

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No, no, no, no. I think it was backyard social. No, we went to Max. We went to sushi. Really? Yes. How much sake did you have? Yeah. They put the six of us in the corner, remember? Oh, yeah.

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But no, man. So we've had some good times and many, many more. But dude, like... Super happy to have you on the show because the one thing that I realized at Thanksgiving, right? I knew you were a friend. I knew you had, you know, you've created this amazing business, but I didn't really understand your story because I didn't know about it. Right.

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And you started speaking on it a little bit and I'm like, dude, we got to have you on the show. So give the audience a small peek behind who Brad Miller is and what you have gone through, and then we can expand on it throughout the show.

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And that was like right in the height of COVID, right?

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It's amazing. I just think as we land the plane today for the audience to think and to really go back and think about and reflect upon the whole episode here, the conversation with my friend Brad, who at nine years old was incarcerated. for seven years, gets out when he was 16, and his own mother, who gave birth to him, stood up and said, that is not my child, and walked right out.

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Has built something to where now he has a legacy. You're helping people. You are a good friend. You're an amazing husband, father, and a great friend. Obviously, I think I already said that, but you've built an empire and you're teaching others how to do it. So, you know, for those people that are struggling, there is a way out.

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And I want them to understand that it may not be telecom for them because they may not understand how to get ahold of you, right? They may not understand how to learn this business, but just because you had the most humbling beginnings, that is not a death sentence. It's not your life sentence, right? Like no matter what happened,

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Like you have the opportunity and the choice to move forward every single day and to make something great out of the rest of your existence.

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I think too, man, the one thing that I want to happen is my wish is The first wish was, when I created the show, was to wake up in a society that was determined to go chase their dreams no matter what their emotions were telling them on that day. It's still that. But it's also, I want people to understand that we live in a world of co-creation and not competition. Yes.

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But can you imagine how many amazing things can happen if two badass entities would be like, dude, you're good and we're good. Let's start beating up on each other and differentiating. Let's see how we can impact the whole world together and co-create.

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Have you ever read The Go-Giver? No. No. You need to read it. Interesting book. I'm almost done with it. I'm going to give it to you because the guy in there, I'm not going to ruin it. I'm not going to ruin it. All right. There's someone listening right now based on what you said, understands where I'm going with it.

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I will finish it this weekend, hopefully, and I will give it to you so you can read it. And you will, my buddy, David Waldy sent it to me. Such a good guy. Randomly just send it to me.

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And I think you're really going to connect with it based on what you just said. That'll be awesome. It'll be really good. It's going to help you understand you even more than you already do. Um, but, uh, let's tell the audience where, where can they find you, man?

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Like it, can they get in touch with you on, I know you're not a big social media guy, but a lot of people that listen to the show are on social media and may want to say, Hey, heard the show, man. Like can you, can you help me?

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I feel a certain way about it, but I want to hear what you have to say.

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It's pretty interesting. It's very interesting. Well, look, dude, I appreciate you. Thank you for coming on. Yeah, thanks for having me. You gave the audience a ton of value. And you heard him. The website will be in the show notes. So please make sure you go check him out if you have any questions. And if you're interested in a career in telecom, he's your guy.

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But again, I just want to thank you guys for listening and watching once more. Staying consistent with us as we've grown this amazing show with amazing guests and an incredible production. Couldn't do it without you. So please keep sharing the show with your friends, people that you know, love and trust.

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And don't be scared to send an email or something or a message to talk about what guests you want to hear, what topics you'd like to hear if I haven't covered anything. And please go ahead and leave some reviews, written reviews on Spotify and Apple. Helps us keep doing what we're doing. Appreciate you guys. Until next time, stay determined.

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Like my daughter, Alina's eight, you know, Alina.

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You were, hold on, hold on. And audience, I want you to tune into this. Like, if you were driving and you got all the things going on in your mind, literally lock the fuck in right here. So you, from nine years old, you were incarcerated and you were incarcerated for the next seven years.

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It's like almost like the same situation you were in that got you. I don't want to say cause you to do those things. Right. Cause you made the choice as a, as a youth. That's right. And your frontal cortex isn't fully developed out of that. Right. Obviously that goes without saying, but here you are at 16 reintroduced to society and

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And literally in the same type of environment with people that didn't know how to make it on their own.

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What were you carrying a razor blade in your mouth for? What would that do?

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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French. And before I introduce today's guest, please do me a favor. If you haven't already, please go subscribe to Determined Society, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and the YouTube. Come check us out everywhere at the Sean French on Instagram and at the Determined Society on Instagram as well.

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now if something like that would come up, you'd be like, yeah, no, like that's a hard stop. So how does that line blur, you know, when you're, when you had second kid, you know, and now you're starting to get back on the right track.

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I mean, you're still, you know, you're, you're, you're running the drugs, but that line, like when you go in to do that armed robbery, are you saying that the logic of what might could happen doesn't even come into your mind? At the moment it didn't.

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Today, I have a special treat for me and for you. It's not very often I get to interview somebody that I know, love, and respect on a personal level. But when I do, it's everything to me because I see the embodiment of what the individuals talk about on my show in real life. see the family, see the children, have dinners, friends givings, all that kind of stuff.

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There's a lot of sugar in that.

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So I have with me my man Alvin Lavitan in California. Welcome to the show, boys. Thanks, buddy. I appreciate it. I appreciate you having us. It's always great. It's a pleasure. It's a pleasure. You guys got quite the gig here, man. You got four locations, right? Veteran owned. Correct. Just a beautiful. So, like, what was the vision, man? That's you, man.

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It's crazy. I stopped liking to drink a while ago. I just don't like it anymore.

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That's some good stuff. That's really cool, man. It's really cool. I mean, hey, it's a healthy habit, right? They're going to feel better. They wake up in the morning. They're probably doing better at work. And you know what? If they're married and with kids, they're probably having better interactions with the wife and they're probably a little more patient with the kids, right? Hands out.

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You know? Absolutely. So I agree. So, I mean, I just think that, you know, when we when you look at it, everybody wants to, you know, they have the idea of wanting to get in better shape, wanting to do something. That's what the show is about. It's about determination and discipline. Right. But but there's a disconnect with people, man. What do you think? What do you think it lies?

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You know, with the disconnect to continue on the path. Let's say you have someone come in, you know, starting the gym, and you can just see them quit on themselves after about a month. What do you think that's going on in their mind?

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Oh, I do remember that. That's good stuff, dude.

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Right. You know, it's crazy. So this, this is one of the things that used to be with me. Like I would, I would play with it a little bit. Right. Yeah. Like I'm committed and I'd bring my clothes when I'd go on a road trip to go to the gym. Cause you know, all hotels have gyms and I would never go. And it's so funny.

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Last night was the first night I stayed here, and my ass was up at 4 a.m., and I was in the hotel gym by 4.30. There you go. And, dude, I was so proud of myself. As you should be. Because I've never done it. Yeah. You know, like, yeah, I'm locked in, but am I really locked in? Can I do it here? And so it was a non-negotiable for me to get in the gym.

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most of the time. I've been passing out hard, man. I've been passing out real hard around 9. My wife's like, are you going to fall asleep early again? I go, Dude, my body's just tired. I'm going to bed tired.

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Oh, it's a serious group.

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There's still 80, 90 people here on Friday night at 930. Yeah, come on. That's insane. The thing, dude, that I found is you can shift, right? You can go, okay, I can either be happy and go do what I need to do or I can be miserable the rest of the day and have this burden on my shoulder. Correct.

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But the one thing I found, but I think it's so dangerous and I want the audience to really think about this, is the moment you tell yourself the night before I'm going to get up at, six, seven, I don't care what time it is, to go do a certain activity. And you don't go do it. You are setting your day up for failure. Correct. Because now you've already taken the easy road.

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And the moment you take the easy road and choose easy over the hard... Like your discipline goes out the window. Now, the next time you have to make a decision through that day about, am I going to do the right thing or am I going to do what's easy? Guess what you choose.

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It happens. I've been through it. Hey, I've been there, right? That's what got me in trouble.

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My wife would destroy me.

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You know what's crazy? A lot of times, too, with what I'm doing, I'm trying to show people. you know, hey, you can make these changes. Like if I can do it, you can do it. And I'm really looking to inspire.

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So every morning I've been doing these things on my story, like around 4.30 or, you know, like right before I go into the gym, I'll write this message on whatever download comes to my mind, you know, about comparison or, you know, whatever it is, discipline. It doesn't matter, right? I'm giving value first thing in the morning. And then I'll put a timestamp on it

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And then I'll put blood type determined every day. People like, I love these. These are freaking incredible. Like, thank you for these. Like, oh my God, I was just dealing with this last week and dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. Thank you for putting this. I know I'm not alone. So you know what? I have to wake up and go. Yeah. Because I was watching you. Yeah. Because if I don't. All right. He stopped.

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And the bottom line is, there might be something on the calendar, like you said, like maybe I'm traveling. But if I'm traveling, I'm still doing the story.

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I need that accountability. Yeah, 100%. And then, hey, keep doing these. Keep doing these. So that's me every single day. That's my self-accountability, but I'm also doing it to help people because I know everybody else is thinking the same thing.

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Yeah. A lot of times people tell me, like, oh, my God, I needed to hear that. I'm like, I needed to write it because I needed it. Yeah, absolutely. Right? That's, like, the best type of coaching when you're, like, just sharing your journey with the public and your friends.

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It helps you heal, but at the same time, it gives value to them, and then it sets off a whole, you know, chain reaction of them going out and taking action. Yeah.

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You're 34. And you're? I'm 45. So I'm 46. Yeah. So we're in the same age. Yeah.

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Comparison is the thief of joy.

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But you know what you can also think of, too? Huh? You don't speak up. What was that? If you don't speak up. If I don't speak up? And tell your story. Yeah. You're selfish. You know why? Because someone needs to hear that shit.

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We were just winging it. Yeah, but see, the point is, though, right? It's, like, your story, and I know this is extreme, but your story could save someone's life. Possibly.

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I'm broke. What's the point of being here?

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See? See? But no, I think, you know, at the beginning of everything, it was me and Kyle were talking about it. You know, you asked me if I knew this whole imposter syndrome thing. Yeah. That's just until you get proficient at something, right? That's normal, right? But it's also when you compare yourself to other people thinking like, what have I actually done, right?

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But then you're looking at a snapshot of someone's life. You have to go off your experience, right? Everything that you've accomplished, right? Dead broke at 27. Successful real estate team that you lead. You're married. You have a daughter. You own two gyms. Or you might be partnering with the other two. I don't know. But, dude, you've done some stuff. And people need that light.

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That's wild, man.

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People need to see that. And so this is like a therapy session on calendar.

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We're all over this guy. Hey, come on. But that's going to be my challenge to you after here, man. It's like, dude, just find your voice and do it little by little. Start with maybe typing something on your stories. Maybe then do a video, but just understand that you've got to be willing to really suck at it.

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You know, because I was terrible. Yeah. You know, terrible. Reps. You get your reps in. You get better. You get stronger. You get faster. Whatever it is. Just like squats, right? You don't have the greatest technique when you squat at first, but you learn. Yeah. You know?

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If you ever... Can you get back up, too? Oh, yeah. That's amazing. It's like ass to grass. That's easy. Ass to grass is an Asian thing, huh? Unbelievable. I'm surprised y'all have never seen that. No, I mean, no. It's... Okay. I'm trying to do a squat right now.

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So what do you do down there? You just hang out? No, it's just a squad. That's what I'm saying. Messing around. I love it, dude. I love it. That's fantastic. No, but, you know, what's next for you guys, man?

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Yeah, dude. I just think that it's so important, like, when you have your purpose and you know what it is, and you enjoy doing something, like, this isn't work to you guys.

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You know what I mean? Sometimes, you know, any business of course. There's stressors behind it. Like, this is fun for me, but there's times where I'm like, dude, this is stressful as shit.

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Wait, so, hold on. You own apartment complexes too?

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I mean, it's like you cannot have all this foot traffic and things not break, right? And that's the part of the blessing and the curse, right? You have this many people coming in. Like I walked in, I honestly didn't know what to expect on a Friday night. You know, I walk in, I'm like... Holy shit, dude. This place is jammed up. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, it's great. Right?

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But so, yeah, things are going to break. But that's just a testament of what you guys built.

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We understand it. Absolutely. So let me ask you this. This show is called The Determined Society. So I want each one of you to answer this. What does determination mean to you and what does it look like?

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Yeah, that's the Bobby Henline Foundation charity workout, man. They're out there getting it. Yeah, for sure. They're getting it. For sure. It's been crazy. The assault bike.

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terrible brutal oh you guys kept he's a sleeper this guy's a monster he's a stud i mean the dude's strong he's fit yeah he goes i don't do cardio and he does what was your time i think it was 113 113 50 calories in a minute 13 seconds yeah you're about a minute 30 right no i did uh 216 216 i can't generate the forces but the record yeah what was the record

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That's wild. You had an interesting, you know, analogy before you kicked the workout off. You want to share with the audience.

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Dude, that's wild.

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What's even crazier is that one bite of a Snickers is 50 calories.

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yeah right makes sense that's crazy right it's insane so so you guys got the four gyms here what have you guys learned most about your journey and i guess pushing through the fear of opening that because there's you know when you expand right and you add more more gyms there's always a level of like oh shoot what are we doing man you know like absolutely yeah so how do you guys work through that together

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Yeah, it just exploded. I think we were talking earlier, I think it was you, Alvin, you were talking about how many check-ins a day you guys have here.

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And you guys have 3,000 members here.

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At this location. So you're talking more than half the members. Yeah. I mean, they're running through here. Yeah. Right? That's pretty badass.

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Yeah. I mean, I do like to walk in here. You know, we're outsiders. You know, we're from Florida. We come in here. Well, and everybody's been super kind, man.

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Not in our area. No? No. Nothing like this, man. This is different. This is just a hardcore trainer's gym. You want to come here. If you want to get in shape and you want people around you that are doing it that can help you, this is the place to be, man.

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It's so funny because I always say about motivation, I'm motivated like three or four times a month. Yeah. Because really, I truly feel like discipline and determination will bring you where you want to be, right? Motivation is going to give you that kick in the ass that you need. I agree. But it goes away. It's fleeting. It's like tomorrow, right?

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When we get up here and we light up the stage down there, there'll be so many people that are going to walk out of here motivated as shit. I'm going to go chase my dreams. I'm going to go do this. And they get home and their kid shits themselves. They got the flu. And now they're cooked. They're done. It's done.

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But when we set our systems up like you guys have to build these gyms out, you got the template now. You know what works, right? So when you do that and you execute things daily, right? And for me, filming the show, we have a cadence, right? We all have our certain jobs in here. My job is to show up and do this. and I stay in my freaking lane, right?

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And then from that point, I'm not always, I'm excited to film because it's just what I love to do, but there's certain things within the business I don't like to do, I'm not motivated to do. What the discipline says, hey, I have to, I get to do this. This is what's going to build my business, right? So how have you guys worked through that?

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What's up, everybody? We're back with another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French. We are live at Iron Asylum Gym in Norfolk, Virginia. Today, I have two special guests with me. But before I introduce the guests, if this is the first time watching, I want you to go subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts and share.

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Because the audience that's listening and watching this right now, someone is struggling with the discipline or just saying like, hey, I'm not motivated to do this. So I'm going to, you know what? I'm going to chill today.

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Yeah. So yesterday was quit day. Yesterday was quit day? Is that like literally a day? Literally a day. 15 days or something? 15 days or some shit like that. So it might have been not yesterday.

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Who's going to go back and do that, right? It's all about, like you were saying, habit stacking. Here's something crazy. It's something that I've been going through. So on December 3rd, I was 225 pounds. Do what? 225 pounds on December 3rd. Okay. And I said to myself, like, man, you're fat. Like, I didn't like myself on camera. I hated it.

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I hated everything that came out because I was just so puffy. And I'm like, this is not, there's no longevity in this, right? I'm unhealthy. So I went to a good friend of mine. I said, hey, man, fix me. And we went through all my nutrition, put me on a great protocol. I'm down to 200, man. And I'm thriving. I feel amazing.

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They just need someone. Yeah, and it's in person, too.

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Dude, I mean, dude, I love water. I do that when I'm fat, too. I love the taste of water. Water's the best thing, yeah. It's the best ever. No, it is. But my point is, is, like, I had the habit stack, right? And I went to somebody, like my friend Jeff Delaney, that went through my whole nutrition. He does have a weight loss clinic in Naples called NuViva. And we went through everything, man.

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This episode was something that you know, love, and trust that needs to hear this. So today I have with me the owners of this beautiful gym that is 25,000 square foot lifters gym. This is a beautiful place, man. People down here right now at 9 p.m. on a Friday night getting their lift in. So this is a whole other meaning to Friday night at the bar, right?

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Consult, DEXA scan, everything. I've done two DEXAs already. In four weeks, I lost 13.77 pounds of fat. in four weeks, just by training hard, right? Six days a week. And, you know, three days of weight training, three days are hit training and I'm dialed in on my nutrition and I'm getting the results. But like, I'm not sitting there thinking like I have to go so hard in the gym.

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I'm like, man, I'm going to, I'm going to start slow. I'm going to, I'm going to go to all these workouts because I committed to it and I reached out for support. But the main thing I'm going to do is I'm going to listen to my body.

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And it's so funny because now the aches and pains that I had, I was talking to my buddy Mike before we shot the show here, like, my spine is more mobile now. It doesn't hurt. My hip flexors don't burn anymore. There you go. Right? My knees don't hurt anymore. Man, 25 pounds? It's a big difference.

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I feel like I look like a different person. You're carrying around a couple of bricks. Yeah, I look like a different person. Like I saw pictures from the event earlier today, and the sales trainer, I'm like, holy shit, I like me now.

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What I found really interesting, and you guys will be able to speak on this, and I want the audience to really...

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hear what you have to say because you know they talk about you know it's going to take months to see the physical change i don't believe i don't believe that right because i i saw it in a week i lost 10 pounds in one week just by eating the right foods and exercising right and then by week two i was down 15 you know and then just by then it's just like incrementally gotten better but the crazy thing is is like people say it's 80 nutrition

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no it's not it depends right case by case i'd say i don't for me it's like for me it's like 99.9 percent right my body is like dude yes i agree no it's nutrition's huge it's massive it's huge yeah so we say case by case right so i mean obviously some one person could eat more of one thing than another person can but correct um but what are your thoughts on nutrition how important it is

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No, it was some version of it, but you're fine. Whatever, man. Hey, we're not perfect here, guys. We just keep moving. So I apologize for that. I do know your name. I do know your name. It's fine. I've already fucked up, guys. Here we go. But dude, it's so nice to meet you. You know, we're here for this amazing event. You're actually the stage sponsor, correct?

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But that's amazing. That's like consistent growth. Right. And I want to I don't want to overlook your grandfather. Like, I would appreciate that because I lost all my grandparents when I was younger. Right. And, you know, I mean, look, man, like nothing is better than a grandparent, dude.

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It's valuable. I think everybody for the audience, I just want you guys to listen and to this point is look back in your life about that one mentor that you had. It could have been a grandparent, could have been a friend or your parents. It's like the value that they bring is truly tremendous because there's been mentors in my life that I don't think I would be where I'm at.

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Even the adversaries, I wouldn't be where I'm at right now if those things didn't take place. And I always like to value the past. Right. Instead of, you know, I guess bringing shame about the past of the stupid shit I used to do or.

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Cool. So, you know, let's talk about the event first, about what led you to become a stage. That's a pretty big thing. Did you believe in the mission? What spoke to you?

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It's part of the growth journey, right? And if it, and I think a lot of times when people fail or they get egg on their face and go, oh my God, look at me, poor me. This is victim bullshit. When they really need to look at it.

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We could, but we could, right? But this all gives insight to who you are and how you built your company. And the thing is, is when we focus on the past and the mistakes that we've made and the failures that we've made in our businesses, right? no matter how big or small, we start to realize those are the moments that we grow into these amazing entrepreneurs. It's not the wins that take us there.

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It's all those micro failures in between.

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I love that, dude. It's a great point because as you're speaking, I'm thinking of all those moments when I was super immature in building this show. So I was doing this, I did this all on me. I think there's a big component of me, but it's like there have been people strategically placed in my path every single stage. And it was up to me to embrace that. But they created space for me.

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When I met Michael Little and Tim Lewis, when we were hanging out with Eric Thomas in Traverse, Michigan, I was just going there to meet a friend. I was going there to meet Eric. And here they come in. And we just said like, hey, are you meeting E.T. as well? Yeah. And we sat down and this whole event was birthed. Like, so for me, it's like, no, I didn't do everything together.

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I didn't do everything on my own. Like he and I built something and then he ran with it.

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you know, having great relationships and leveraging those relationships in a respectful way. Right. Yeah. And doing things together. But I always say like, you know, you're only as good as your circle. Everybody says that. And if you have a powerful circle that just are a bunch of get shit done type of people, you're going to, you're going to excel because of that. Right. But I want to go back.

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I don't want to, you know, I want to say to that point though. Yeah.

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Like with your grandfather, does that bring... It's a little nostalgic.

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But I think also to like to your point about that is it's important to understand it, not just from a knowledge standpoint. It's important. It's important to understand all of it. So you can be dangerous enough to send people that way.

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Yes, exactly. Yeah. It's how you build a massive business, right? And, you know, I'm reading a book right now called Go-Giver. It's a really good book.

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So I'm not a fan of reading books. Don't get it twisted. My buddy, David Waldy sent it to me randomly. Just, you know, kind of out of the, I said, Hey, what's your address? I sent it to him and in comes two books and one of them is go giver. I'm like, Hmm, beautiful. So I'm like, I have to read this, but typically I'm not a big reader either. You know, I probably should do it a lot more. Yeah.

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But my mind, like if I'm at home and just sitting there, I feel like I'm not doing anything. So after my workout, if I can squeeze it in before the kids wake up or on a weekend or something like that, I'll, I'll crack it open a little bit. But, but yeah, I actually get better about it. Yeah, it did me too. All right. You heard it. Matt and I are going to read more. That's my goal for 2025.

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Just read more. That's easy. To be fair, yeah, if you started zero, one books. Boom. Crushed it. Yeah. 100% approval. All right. It's freaking fantastic. I want to talk about your specific company because I know when I did some research on your company, there's a lot of talk about technology and innovation, right?

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Yeah. I've noticed that about him. I met him in July and he's just, yeah, he's my kind of people, man. What I think is awesome. Cause you and I were talking off air about, you know, social media, you know, instant gratification of society and everybody wants something now, now, now. And there's a lot of competition in the world. Right. And I fully believe we don't live in a competitive world.

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How has that played a part in helping the consumer not be surprised by closing statements, et cetera, and how has it made those relationships for you better?

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It's intimidating.

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Yeah, I want to, yeah. There's nothing worse than like, as a, as a, you know, as a buyer or the seller, like, okay, I'm, if it's a refi, I'm getting this much back at closing. Like I'm getting, oh, okay, cool. It's 70 grand back at closing. And you need that 70 grand for something. Maybe a down payment on another home. And then you get your final closing statement and you're getting 40.

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And now you're like, oh my God, or not. That's pretty extreme.

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And this is something that a lot of people are going to listen to the show or watch it on YouTube and be like, what the fuck is he about to say?

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We live in a co-creative world and it's somebody's choice every single day. Are you going to compete or are you going to co-create? And you and Michael decided to co-create together. That says a lot about how he feels about you and how you feel about him. What are your thoughts there?

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Of course there is.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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Yeah, I love it. And again, I want to clarify for the audience and even just with you, when I say we don't live in a competitive environment- I don't mean that there's not competition and there's not other people out there competing.

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What I mean is if we focus on the co-creation part of it, right, and we focus on the processes and what we're trying to grow in our businesses and our culture, right, within the business and our standards and everything like that, when we always rise to the standards and the processes every single day, we're gonna beat the competition Nine out of 10 times. Because you know why?

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Wait a little bit and then proceed and respond how you, how you feel you really need.

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Yeah, man. Well, look, dude, it's, I've really enjoyed having you on the show, talking about your company and your mindset and your disciplines on how you built this whole thing. I think it's an interesting story. And I know the audience has gotten a ton out of it. I want to ask you one more question before we shut this bad boy down. What does determination mean to you?

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45 minutes, yeah.

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I love it. And for the audience, you guys always hear me say discipline is not and determination is not this gritty, fighting, scratching and clawing social media definition of being determined. Right. It's not running 17 miles every day. That's just idiotic on your body.

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We know they're there. We respect them, but we don't think about them. We think about what we're doing right here.

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Exactly. I think it's just super important for everyone to understand what determination means is that you are getting up and doing the work, executing your process, even when your emotions are telling you not to. Your emotions, at any point in time when you're building something, you can feel them, lean into them, but still move forward a little bit.

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Your 100% isn't going to be the same every day, right? Nope.

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You have to. It's interesting because in sports, you grew up playing baseball and at 14, you specialized in hockey. Then you played college hockey up in Boston where you got your college degree.

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More often. Probably good for me.

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I love it, dude. I love it. And we're going to end on that. To everybody that has listened to this show, go check out my boy's company. It'll be in the show notes. Click on it. Just learn a little bit more about him. And if you know a buddy in the Virginia beach area that's buying or selling a house, noble title and escrow, please hit them up. And until next time, guys, stay determined.

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Anything in Virginia? Let's go. I said Virginia Beach, but whatever. The whole damn state. Yeah. Oh, my boy. You got questions, reach out. Yeah. See ya.

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You played, right? And you got to see three world championships, by the way. That's pretty fucking cool, man. That's pretty dope. Nothing like working at 18 and 6 a.m. for a championship. Yeah, exactly, right? It's like, maybe I should go to class, but I'm going to do this anyway.

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Yeah. So I just think it's really cool when you talk about that competitive spirit that you have as a young child and adolescent and going into college. How do you feel that competitiveness has helped you grow your business?

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Dude, it's great, man, because there's a lot of fuel, right? I always say when someone tells me that I can't do something, I remember when I started, people laughed.

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They laughed. They laughed at me, man. Yeah. And I think some people still are, but now they're mad because they were wrong, right? Yeah. But I did not... I think at first it bothered me, Matt, you know, like it really, it really truly did. But then I realized that if I just focus on what I'm doing and what I'm building and the purpose of why I'm doing it, I'm not going to hear it.

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I won't hear it. And it's funny. You know, we hit it off off camera, and now we're having this great conversation. You were the last line of defense. You were a goalie. I was a catcher.

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See? Amazing. We got a bromance going on in here. So it's like behind the plate, you know, in the SEC, like, dude, I remember one time at Alex Box Stadium, the old Alex Box. Yeah. We tore it down and turned it into a fucking parking lot. Midweek game.

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Even in our midweek games, we had about 8,000 people there at a college baseball game on a Wednesday playing like Shreveport or some crazy stuff or Loyola in New Orleans. Pop up behind the dish. All right. I missed it. I missed it. They're not easy. Like, potlucks, those are not game easy. You got to take the basket off. You got to find it. You got to find it.

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You got to, you know, backspin, wind, everything, right? You got to make sure you get your back to the, you know, the field and be in a good position. And the amount of, oh, and the whole stadium, it's like, I'm going to tell you, I could block a lot of things out. I could not block that out. I heard that, man. That was loud. Yeah. Yeah.

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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I am your host, Sean French. Today, as you can see, we're in a different location. We're at Iron Valley Real Estate here in Norfolk, Virginia for the Determine Your Destiny Tour. I'm super excited to announce today's guest.

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No, you can't.

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That's the thing. It's like the initial thing, right, that you did is you reacted. And I've done it too. It's human nature. Why are they copying, man? Go get your own stuff. And then I'm like, wait a second. They're copying, and I guess there's a quote out there, like, you know, what is it? When someone copies you, it's the best form of flattery or something like that. Yeah. Something like that.

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And now it's like.

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Thank you. Thank you. See, guys, he's on it, man. He's on it. So that's my point is, like, I want as many people to copy me as they want.

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And, in fact, I'm at the point where I will give them all the secrets. I will tell them exactly how to grow their show. I don't care.

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Yeah, here's the playbook. It's about five or six things. Go for it.

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Hey, stay consistent, right? And so consistency is big, right, in sports and in entrepreneurship especially. I want, if you can, I want you to walk everybody through the start and the launch of Noble Title and Escrow in 2020 and how you guys have leaned on technology innovation.

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Before I do that, though, if it's your first time listening to the show, please hit subscribe on Apple, Spotify, and YouTube. Go check it out. Leave a comment. Leave a review. I want to know what you think. Today, I have the president and CEO of Noble Title and Escrow here in Norfolk, Virginia, my man, Matt Cantrell. Nice to meet you, buddy.

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Dude, I'm jacked to have you. You're just a handsome son of a bitch. Look at you.

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It's amazing, man. There was growing pains. Dude. And that was an interesting time. Cause I don't know how it was up here in real estate, but in Florida, it fucking boom.