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We will be diving into college hoops and March Madness. And also, we'll be talking about Angel Reese's comments on the WNBA's upcoming CBA negotiations. So we have a packed show. But before we get there, I just want to say, Logan, I speak for you when I say this to our viewers. We love y'all. Yes, so much. So much love for y'all. We love you guys.

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Yeah. What is it that over the course of your career has allowed your confidence to be shaken and even your joy?

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Well, just to piggyback the conversation around Seattle, I mean, you had the opportunity to play behind and learn from Sue Bird. What would you say were the most important things that you still think about to this day that you got from Sue Bird?

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Hey, what's up, y'all? Welcome to Good Follow, presented by DraftKings. I'm Roz. That's my girl, Logan Hackett. Logan, what's goody? How are you, my girl?

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Yeah, I mean, you have an opportunity to see that you don't got to be the loudest, but what you say has to be powerful and meaningful. You have the opportunity here at Unrivaled to learn from another great in Teresa Weatherspoon as your coach. How is Spoon helping you?

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And we promise to be a show that covers women's sports with passion. and with enthusiasm. So we thank you for watching, for subscribing. If you haven't subscribed yet, please do it. Follow us on social media, comment, like, all the things.

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Fight to keep it, right. Exactly. What is your voice? What is your voice?

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Yeah. I think it's a really important talking point, not even just for sports, just about leadership in general. We live in a society where being an extrovert or being the loudest is often like put on a pedestal. And I think there are many ways to lead. I think that's an important message for a lot of people at home listening, for workspaces.

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I mean, you know, that you can be an effective, powerful leader and also do it, you know, in your own way and style. So that really resonated. Thank you.

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it's funny because we're talking about voice and you have this incredible voice off the court you know like you have you have a because you said a voice in basketball in my head i was like well also in music you're a wonderful singer thank you um well what is your voice as a singer then i'm still now that is something i'm still trying to figure out um i have recently been i've always been into music but i think recently i've been more in tune with music as

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I've never heard of a crooner. A crooner? Oh, no. Is that too old? A crooner is like somebody who's like...

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Okay. Well, then what kind of singer are you? Are you singing the blues? Are you somebody who's emo?

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in some ways music can take, you know, push you outside your box.

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Knowing them. Everybody loves soccer music. One thing that you have done, which I'm always impressed with, is like, you can go on a dime. Can we hear a little snippet from you of one of your songs? You want to hear a snippet?

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I just want the background story of this picture that went viral. Oh, gosh. This is at the very end of January, right? You know, Brittany Griner just made her announcement. Y'all are on a boat fishing. Uh-oh. And she said, I'm coming to Atlanta. And don't worry, the fans at home, we will show you this picture. I'm showing my girl in the halls.

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It's cool, because y'all are not even on the same team. That's the Owls, that's the Phantom, that's the Vinyl.

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Oh, the dreamies. You heard it here first. We got all sorts of exclusives in this interview with you. Girl, I could talk with you another 30 minutes if you let me. It was so wonderful. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. It was so great to have you on.

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Welcome back to Good Follow. I'm Roz. She's Logan. And we just heard from Jordan Canada. That was such a great sit down interview with Jordan, who is just so dynamic and so cool to get her to pull a curtain back on her just music career and process. I'm glad she's putting music out. You go girl. Now, Logan, let's transition because you were at the Challenge Cup last week.

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So let's transition to some soccer. The Washington spirit and Orlando pride went head to head. And this was a rematch of the 2024 championship game. And this time it was the spirit who came out on top on over the Orlando pride. And they did this in penalties. These were the top two teams last season. So Logan, you were there based on what you saw Friday. Will that be the case again?

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Yeah, you know, first of all, we're getting heavyweight matchups between UCLA and USC. Some people are hoping that they'll see this matchup a fourth time and maybe they'll both get one seeds in Tampa, perhaps the final four. I would love to see it. Why not? But, you know, I think it was a great response from UCLA getting this win. I think shout out to Lauren Betts. Like, wow.

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You know, she really sets the tone for them defensively. She had four blocks, four steals in the game. Three of those four blocks came in the fourth quarter. And there was a really signature defense. defining moment as Juju Watkins is just trying to find a way to score a bucket, goes to the lane, and she's denied by Lauren Betts. And I just think you set the tone in that way.

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And it's not just defense. Offensively, Lauren was able to be super efficient, 7 for 10 from the field for 17 points. She absolutely was deserving of that most outstanding player. And, you know, good for UCLA, whose defense was just staggering in the second quarter.

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Welcome back to Good Follow. Big thank you to soccer legend Kelly O'Hara for joining us and joining Logan for that great NWSL preview. Now let's transition because this segment is presented by DraftKings. Unrivaled playoffs are beginning on Sunday, and I've got my eyes on that two versus three seed matchup between the Rose and the Laces.

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On the Rose, if you're looking for someone to pack the stat sheet, it's Angel Reese, who's leading Unrivaled in rebounding. Naturally, we expected her to crush the glass, but she's improved so much on the offensive end, finishing, getting in deep, and scoring the rock. She's on constant double-double watch. For the Laces, a player who can also fill the stat sheet is Alyssa Thomas.

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Now, she may not always be your leading scorer, but she's on constant triple-double watch as a player who rebounds, creates for others with assists. She can get you a bucket or a block, and she's definitely the tone setter for the toughness and physicality of the Laces.

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I have the Rose winning and advancing to the finals, and perhaps we might see them against the overall number one seed, Lunar Owls, if they advance over Team Vinyl. Either way, I have a feeling that these unrivaled playoffs are going to finish with a bang. This segment is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. We love doing that. I love it.

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big sigh once again that's not what she said and also look at this tweet it's from centelle look at the e at the end centelle is a troll meme site man but the problem is people are going to go and run with that uh because it's angel reese like they want to see something that's inflammatory and she never said that exactly

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So UCLA, I mean, they were just absolutely suffocating on defense in that second half and thwarted anything that USC was trying to do. And that brings me to USC. They were up by 13 in the third quarter. And Logan, you brought it up. They only hit two field goals in the last 12 minutes of game time. Like in real lifetime, like that's like 30 minutes or even more. That's a long time where...

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Well, you know, this is all part of CBA negotiations and it's right on time. I believe the WNBA players provided a proof of concept last season and now and unrivaled again. And with athletes unlimited attention, ratings, attendance, it's all upped. And the product is great. There's a new crop of identifiable young stars, new rivalries, storylines that people are following.

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The players are captivating. And there's an appetite for investment. You know, we're seeing new WNBA teams. We're seeing alternative leagues. like Athletes Unlimited, like Unrivaled, who are having banner seasons. There's an influx of cash coming from the new TV rights deal. Brand deals are flowing.

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And there's just like investors with cash fist in hand, you know, trying to find ways to invest in women's basketball now. So I think...

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when we discuss the conversation in a reasonable, right-minded way, it's important to note that WNBA players are looking to renegotiate the revenue split and that they aren't asking for NBA salaries, but they are looking to the NBA's model where in their revenue split, it's about 50-50. And perhaps in like years past, Logan, WNBA team owners are,

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may have been carrying the burden of the load, but now I think that scale has slid, and the players are pushing a lot of the momentum that we're seeing. They're behind a lot of that. They're driving it, and they want to make sure that they, like... have an opportunity to not be left out of the momentum and the monetization of that, of the energy that they're creating.

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So I think right now is a great time for them to be discussing like revenue split and equity in the league. And they have every right to.

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you have to step up like and sometimes you got to shake the table it's not just hoping and asking for a seat at it but you know you've got to fight for this and these negotiations and talks aren't easy but they're so necessary and i think it's right on time absolutely um you know speaking of time that's it for our episode today I know, I know, but we want to thank all of you for watching.

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We want to thank Jordan Canada, Kelly O'Hara for joining our show today. We had two greats of basketball and soccer here. Make sure y'all subscribe. If you made it all the way to the end of this show.

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better be subscribing um and then also follow us on socials at good follow um we appreciate you we are building this thing together good follow we're presented by draft kings logan any final thoughts love you yeah we do love you okay bye y'all we'll see you next week welcome to miami

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they can't get something going. And so that's my question for USC. Like, when the offense isn't flowing, when Juju's not going, like, how do you manufacture some kind of production? Because USC didn't get to the free throw line enough, I think. Like, they only got there 13 times. And when you're struggling to score the ball, every possession starts to really count for more.

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Oh my gosh, you go girl, you've got your whole life together. Right?

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And they turned it over 19 times. So they don't even have the ball long enough. And you've got to figure out when you're an elite team, how do you stop the bleeding? And one of those is, you know, not turning it over. I think a healthy film session will help USC right now as they head into March. I mean, again, not a panic moment, but just healthy film session to answer these types of questions.

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Oh, my goodness. They changed their season, girl. Had they lost again to USC? I mean, it completely changes the way they headed to March. But that wasn't the only tournament that crowned a champion. We're going to take a look at the SEC tournament. South Carolina wins.

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Shout out to Dawn Staley, who was a pillar of just excellence and consistency over the course of years and different rosters and classes. But they took down Texas. They won by 20 to win the SEC tournament. So, Logan,

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It was South Carolina who makes that happen. They're known for defense.

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You know, Kara Lawson, I've had the pleasure of getting to know her. She's excellent. She was excellent as a player, excellent as a broadcaster. And now moving into greatness as a coach, this is a huge pillar for her program. And Duke came in, they were at the bottom, coached them through a pandemic. And in five years, now has them back at the top of the ACC at winning the tournament.

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And to your point, Logan, this was a really tough path. They had to go through Notre Dame. They had to go through NC State. And her team is young and hungry and they're defensive. They've got a strong identity. And that defensive identity, like it was more than they just squeaked through and upset them. They held Notre Dame 28 points below their scoring average.

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We're about to have our reunion again in Miami. We're heading to Miami for the unrivaled playoffs and the Miami Open. Some tennis. Is that the right way? So I can't wait to see you in person. But before we even get to our next in-person show for Good Follow Show, we got to take you through today's. Today, we got a big one.

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They held NC State 15 points below their scoring average. So, I mean, this is a team that heads into the tournament with a lot of momentum, a a really good, strong sense of self and their formula to success and kudos to them.

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You know, look, Notre Dame, they're still those girls, you know, but I am concerned for them because they are limping into March. Their last two losses, Coach Neal Ivey has had to talk with the team for an hour post-game. This is what's standing out to me. It's not even just the losses.

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It's the fact that Coach Ivy, there's reports from media that they've had to wait for the team to leave the locker room post-game, these losses, over an hour. That's a lot of talking, you know? And on one hand, I understand that Neal Ivy is trying to just impress urgency on her team so that they don't miss the moment that's right here for them.

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But on the other hand, I feel like it's March, you know? And this isn't a team that needs to be talked into some kind of miracle. Like, they have every single thing they need to be a championship team. And ultimately, I think that the talk and the rally has to come from the Notre Dame players and the team themselves.

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You can't just be a team that's beating your chest and talking big and all this and that when things are going well. You don't want to be a frontrunner. Like, you are being challenged right now. This is real adversity, and you're heading into a one-and-done scenario. So y'all got to double down on who you are. And I think that's what they got away from, their identity as a team that's defensive,

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High energy, confident, has defense that creates offense and they can create high tempo, up tempo, pace, energetic situations where they can really just showcase their toughness. So they've got to dig right now.

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Stephen Curry is unrivaled. Every time I see these announcements, I feel like it's like, so-and-so is unrivaled. But this is a big one. This is like a nod at the end of the season where it's like people got to view the unrivaled season, see what it was, and then was like, Yeah.

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I need to tap. Exactly. And, you know, a shout out to Stephen Curry because he's been investing in the woman's game. And this is just continues the path that he's on.

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You know, I think that the two teams that have the best chance of taking down the Owls might be the Rose and the Laces. And the Rose have been trending up to end the season. They go as Chelsea Gray goes. One of the most beautiful things I saw on Unrivaled is just that Chelsea's healthy. She's rejuvenated. She's playing with joy. And, you know, she's taking her teammates with her.

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We got an exclusive sit-down interview with two-time WNBA champion Jordan Canada joins us. Not only is Jordan a baller, but she completely takes us through her process as a singer and a musician and sneak peek some music with us. We also hear from Kelly O'Hara, who joins the show to preview the NWSL season. Y'all, it is the unrivaled playoffs. We will be talking about that.

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Angel Reese is so competitive. She's crushing the glass, but she's absolutely been improved on the offensive end in Unrivaled. But why I also think the Rose have a really great chance, their entire team is trending upwards. Role players like Brittany Sykes and Lexi Hull play with such motor. They play so hard, especially on the defensive end.

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The Rose are a great defensive team and their defense can get them out in offense for fast break opportunities. They're a low scoring team. So, you know, they want to beat the defense down the court and get some easier shots. So I feel like that's the case for the Rose.

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The Laces, I've been calling the most dangerous team in Unrivaled because they're now healthy on time, and they just got a bunch of veteran dogs who can score the ball and defend the ball. And one of the reasons they've been so hot to finish the season and have gotten into playoffs is because Jackie Young is healthy and playing at a really high level.

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Let's take a look at some of Jackie Young's highlights. You know, first of all, Jackie...

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gets to the rim she is so strong she has a real passion for the weight room and that devotion translates to the court um she's very deliberate and methodical out there on the court you know like she's uh smooth and unrushed she can really stroke the ball well from three and then if you come flying out on her she'll put the ball down not get too deep step into her

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her jump shot she's got a great shooting touch um rarely off balance you know she's just confident and and just one of the many scoring options on this team because there's Kayla McBride McBuckets there's Tiffany Hayes you know Dolson uh could come in there and make impact and obviously Alyssa Thomas does a bit of everything so look out for the laces um

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I mean, look out for the whole playoffs, man. The thing about the playoffs, it's one game. It's one game. This ain't a three game or five game series. You got to win two games to get to the chip. So these are some of the top players in the world. Any one of these teams can win two games and win a chip.

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Hey, what's up, Goodfollow? We are coming to you from Miami at the Unrivaled campus. As you know, I'm your girl, Roz Goldonbude. And today we have a delightful guest. I'm going to do some accolades because she's a two-time WNBA champion. She will be seen with the Atlanta Dream. And here at Unrivaled, she's part of Team Vinyl. Don't play with her. She will lock you up.

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This is a two-time all-first team defensive selection, two-time steals leader in the WNBA. When she was at UCLA, she was the Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year. You don't play about defense. I don't play about deed. I get down. Jordan Canada joins the show. What's up, Jordan? What's up? Thank you for having me. I'm so happy to have you. Thank you. You've been having aura, girl.

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You've been hooping. Thank you. I'm trying. You've really been finishing Unrivaled strong here. And, you know, we've met before and spoken. Coach Teresa Weatherspoon said she told you as you go, Team Vinyl will go. Like, how much do you feel like your game has expanded and grown here at Unrivaled?

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And... You know, anybody who watches our show at Good Follow, you know one of the words that I've been holding on to in 2025 has been the word soft. Okay. What is a word or a phrase, something that you would hold on to as an intention for the rest of, you got unrivaled season, you got WNBA season.

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But maybe it's even crazier that the very next play she comes down and hits a trail three pointer and the whole place went crazy. Like the dunk was like, ah, but then to come back and double down and hit the three, it was like people were standing up and yelling and it was such a time. I had a cute little night, girl. Are you coming out here?

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You're in an interesting spot, too, because you are a productive veteran, especially when you're healthy. And obviously you want to be a part of a team that contends, but you're in a tough situation with Washington where it was a rough year last season for injuries for all the reasons. There's a whole lot of new right now.

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With the Mystics. So what are you most excited about?

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Speaking of other players, the cool thing about Unrivaled, you're on Team Rose, you get to kind of mix in with players who normally are sometimes your opponents. Yes. You might have seen them around at different stops and stints in your career, but who are some of the players on Team Rose that you've really enjoyed either having the opportunity to spend more time with? Yeah.

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i will be very soon and i'm so excited and i cannot wait to go to unravel because everything that you've said and then everything like you're seeing online in the fan perspective yeah it just it's something that you cannot miss totally and we'll also get you a chance to pick out your jersey um but um we've got so much to talk about in today's show so for all the viewers at home this is what you've got coming today first of all we've got

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What's interesting, though, is you guys are both making names around the defensive end of the ball.

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I mean, obviously, you are, you know, already... as one of the great defenders in the W. She's an up-and-coming player.

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You know, in Indy, they were calling her Hull Island. Did you hear that?

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With her being younger and stuff, like, what would you express to her it takes to really be an elite defender at the pro level here?

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good follow presented by draftkings i'm roz gold on woody and that's my girl logan hackett logan how are you great to see you i'm good how are you girl i had the cutest day yesterday monday night in miami at unrivaled it was my first time going to unrivaled and not working like the game broadcast was my first time pulling up as a fan It was so fun. Actually, I got lucky.

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Yeah, because you got to think. She's been doing this all this last season.

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an exclusive sit-down, one-on-one interview with WNBA vet of the Mystics, of the Rose, Slim, our girl Slim, Brittany Sykes, joins the show today for an exclusive sit-down interview. I'll be talking with her. Then we've gotta talk unrivaled playoffs.

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So the biggest difference five-on-five versus this three-on-three format is like sometimes five-on-five you can shine in a system. You might be able to hide certain weaknesses.

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Talk about it because I feel like for a few years now you've been yelling at people. I'm a bucket too.

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um athletes unlimited crowned a champion we'll be talking about that college hoops conference championships oh my god march madness is here uh oh my gosh the caitlyn clark effect it is continuing she is putting butts in seats all the things and of course the nwsl has revealed some kits we'll take a look at those so we've got an awesome show for everyone logan um remind the people when do we drop every wednesday at 7 p.m eastern time

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Do you have any tools that are helping you? Like do you journal?

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That's been one of the craziest things for me at Unrivaled here. These are the best in the world or the most up and coming or some of the like, you know, well-known vets of the league and of basketball. And so many players are talking about regaining joy, confidence. Like, I'm like, you?

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Yeah. Yeah. Which is, again, brings us full circle to staying right here.

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As we wrap this up, I have a question that I feel all the fans are wondering. Okay. Why is it so tough? Like, why are the lunar owls so tough? What is it about these hootie-hooties? And are y'all tired of them hootie-hooing everywhere?

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All right. I think we did all the business up top. You ready to get into the show?

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Well, you always strap up. You always show up. I appreciate you showing up for us here at Good Follow for me.

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Welcome back to Good Follows Show presented by DraftKings. I'm Roz. She's Logan. And we just had a really awesome conversation with Slim, Brittany Sykes. She and the Rose are crushing it over at Unrivaled. So good to just really get to know her and like chop it up with her. I really enjoy that conversation personally. And, you know, now we move from there to some college hoops.

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Yeah. USC has incredible momentum heading into March Madness. They've won seven in a row now, including some really important top 25 wins, a nice win over Ohio State, two huge wins over UCLA. That second one at at Pauley Pavilion, at the Bruins, that was one of them loud type of statement wins. It was dominant. And it really, they put their flag on LA.

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And I think that USC had to do that first before they can put their eyes on, like the Big Ten tournament and the NCAA big dance. They now are Big Ten champs. They are accomplishing things. You need some tangible wins, feathers in your cap as you take this walk along the way into March Madness. And they have those that they can hang on to, signature moments.

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And I also think Juju Watkins made a huge statement. That first game, the 38 points and the eight blocks, it was super loud. So we figured when you go to UCLA, they were going to be locked in and kind of quiet her. And instead, Juju seems to be shining at her best, playing at her highest level when the lights are brightest and when the challenge is really big and the odds may even be against her.

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And it's not just the points she put in. What's impressive to me is that she completely can dominate a game on offense and defense and throughout the stat line. And, you know, earlier in the show, Logan, we were talking about like, could there be another player who captivates in the way that Caitlin Clark did? I think we're on track for that.

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Like I think team success and individual success as you march through conference tournament into March madness. And as the magnifying glass gets bigger and casuals are starting to watch and you If Juju can continue on this track, I think we could see Juju mania this season. I think we could, we haven't seen it yet.

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We have seen nice respectful commentary about a very nice college player who's doing well at the end of the season. And she's been up and down throughout the season at times. But if Juju continues to capture whatever she's got and put it in a bottle and take this through March into a deep run in the tournament, I guarantee Juju mania like at the highest level

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begins at a level that I mean, she's already got like billboards on buildings in the streets. So that's pretty impressive for a sophomore. But like, I'm talking like, she could be with what we saw from Caitlin, I think.

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Yeah, it's an important call out. You're not going to go far if you're not going to have team success. It will not just be the juju show to take them far in the Big Ten or in the NCAA tournament.

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It's anticlimactic. It's whack. Throw some tomatoes at it. However, the regular season conference championship is only about record. So if the record is tied, then you are tied for that. Now where there is only one champion is in the conference tournament. So that's where you've got to set your sights. But as far as a coin flip, no, that's not exciting, but that is the way it worked out.

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And so now it's the job of those coaches and for the vets in the locker room to reframe the scenario. Not that they got lucky that South Carolina

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a coin flip decided that they were the one seed no both of those teams sc texas they both had a win in order to be win their last game in order to be in that situation so they did in some ways take control of their destiny and now here they are new mindset opportunity to also be positioning yourself for an overall one seed and i kind of have a prediction that it's going to come down to texas and south carolina in that final which would be

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think before we, the first player we got a shout out is Maddie Segrist, right? She's the, she is the champion. And for those who are confused by that, like what's happening at Athletes Unlimited, they have a very unique way of scoring. So they don't crown a team champion. They crown an individual champion.

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And every single player is being scored throughout the season and every individual moment on the court. every play, every quarter, every rebound, shot, it all has points assigned to it, which means that every moment matters. And the player with the most points is crowned champion. So Maddie Segrist wins the championship, congrats to her. She's gonna be in her third year heading to the WNBA.

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And I think for her, this is a really nice confidence boost, momentum boost. As she heads back to Dallas, she spent a lot of last season injured, had a finger injury. And now with Satu Sabli not coming back in Dallas, there's going to be opportunity for players to step up. So for a young player, Athletes Unlimited was really valuable for Maddie Segrist.

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Odyssey Sims came in second, as you mentioned, Logan. Odyssey last season in the W was splitting time between Dallas and LA, and that is so hard to just pop into a team and be productive, which she still did.

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So now she has an opportunity to come in off of another strong AU season, start from the beginning with LA, and I think she could be a part of a formidable backcourt and a great support to what Kelsey Plum's gonna bring to LA. And then to your point, Crystal Bradford, I love, when I went to Athletes Unlimited, I too was captivated. I was like, who is this fun, loud, amazing athletic player?

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And I mean, we know Crystal, she's been in and out of the W. She's had some nice moments. A lot of her career has really been overseas and she's had a very productive career there. And through AU, she's earned a training camp opportunity with the Las Vegas Aces. And guess what? The Aces need everything that Crystal brings, which is defense and rebounding and energy.

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Don't forget, the Aces lose Sydney Colson. So another thing that Crystal Bradford brings that I enjoyed meeting her at AAU and I got to speak with her She's got great vibes. She's funny. She has humor. She's got positive, big energy. You know, all the stuff that fills a locker room with the juice that you need. So I think she's got a great opportunity coming up in the W season.

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And what you just see from Athletes Unlimited is it really provides much like Unrivaled is doing not only competitive play, but a chance to get better, develop your game and have better opportunities in the W season. And shout out to Athletes Unlimited because they had a record attendance season in Tennessee. They engaged the community. Social media is popping.

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Yes, I do think Caitlin Clark is going to meet the moment. And I think Caitlin Clark mania and fever or Clarkonomics, whatever it is they're calling it, I think it only gets bigger and better. I mean, health-willing, of course. But I think part of it is there'll be less resistance this season.

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Like the awareness, the growth is there for the league. They've done a tremendous job and really just want to congratulate AU for an incredible fourth season.

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Love. to see it but logan logan logan let's also talk some soccer the nwsl and nike have unveiled their new kits for the 2025 season and we all couldn't wait to see what they would come up with in the creativity in the jerseys to highlight a few angel city fc has an all-over toil pattern featuring beloved la landmarks and symbols uh the casey currents

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Teal Town Kit features a map view of Kansas City and the Missouri River. Oh, that's our girl Tamwa! Okay, the Orlando Pride has the Decennial Kit, which celebrates their 10th season and features a gold star representing them as the reigning champion. So as you can see, there's so many deep storylines and Easter eggs throughout the jerseys. Which team nailed the look?

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Welcome back to Good Follow. This segment is presented by DraftKings. And this week, I am looking at a spicy matchup in Unrivaled Play happening Friday. It is going to be Team Rose against the Lunar Owls. They're running this thing back. The Owls have been dominant all year. They clinched the number one overall seed in the playoffs. But if there's one team that can shake them up, it's the Rose.

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And I think that's just because naturally as the seasons go on, the body of work begins to build itself up. And what comes with that is respect. And hopefully... This season, I hope that the conversation moves and the focus moves away from everything that isn't ball. You know, there was so much conversation about gratitude for Caitlyn or race and, you know, tension in America, all this and that.

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The Rose are the only team to hand the Owls a loss this season. And of course, we know the Rose let everyone hear it. The trash talk was on a million and so fun. I can't wait to see it happen again. So will history repeat itself? I don't think so. The Owls will be locked in, but the two key players will be the Rose's Chelsea Gray and the Owl's Skylar Diggins-Smith.

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This is a must-see point guard matchup. I'll tell you why. The point guard, Chelsea Gray, is a floor general with unmatched vision and clutch shot-making ability. She's playing out of her mind. She's coming off of a 26 point, seven assists, five rebound, four steal, one block game, and the game winner. And the game before that, 38 points. She's hot, hot, hot.

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Skylar Diggins-Smith is a dynamic scorer and relentless playmaker, and she's super clutch too. Her last game, she had a near triple-double and dropped 25 points, 11 assists, seven rebounds, three steals, and the game winner. And guess what? Sky and Chelsea are both tied with five game-winning shots in unrivaled play. I expect high energy, physical play, a whole lot of chirping and talking.

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Families will be fed, y'all. I will be sat. Logan will be sat. This game is a must watch. Logan. This segment is presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Can you see I'm so excited for this matchup?

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Okay, wait, wait, wait. But we still have more to the show, girl. So we can move from this into like key headlines and notes and all the things we didn't get to. Take me through it.

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Yeah. And like I said, all eyes are going to be on you when you get that kind of money and then the injury happens. That's unfortunate.

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And also if you see her wearing that that tempo sweater, that's play a society as well. So I mean, the merch game is happening. We love to see it. The girls are moguls. The girls are moguls, Logan.

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i want to be excellent like you i've been learning so much from you this whole time and i absolutely love it oh you're like my little sis i'm taking you under my wing and we're doing this together um and this that will that will be a nice way to end today's show uh we want to make sure to thank brittany sykes for pulling up for a one-on-one interview we want to thank all of you for watching subscribing if you haven't yet press that

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Press it. Do it. And also following us on social media at Good Follow Show. We drop every Wednesday, 7 p.m. Eastern. Thank you for rocking with us. She's Logan. I'm Roz. We'll see you next week, right? Absolutely. Bye, guys.

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And it was at some point exhausting for all sorts of fans, no matter what sides or beliefs you had. And I feel like this season, like, We'll have the opportunity to see her physically stronger, mentally rested, better improved. She has a squad and a team of real weapons around her now, real vets who can support her, who can lead her at times. She's got a really great coach coming in.

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I think she's got everything she needs to be successful. And I hope this season that the way we're discussing Caitlin is about the game and the production. So that means that we can be talking about how she's meeting the expectations, how she's exceeding the expectations, and also have critical conversations about the moments where she isn't.

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living up to the expectation, just as we would for a Victor Wambanyama, just as we would for a Jason Tatum. Like, I think that's the evolution of the conversation, not only around Kaitlyn Clark, but just women's basketball on a whole. So I'm excited for season two of Kaitlyn and the WNBA.

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I'm excited for Caitlin Clark year two. I know those 15,000 fans who bought those tickets in 40 minutes are excited. But it makes you think about the future of women's basketball, even after Caitlin and where we are right now. Do you think that there is any other players, specifically college players, who can replicate this kind of fandom in the way that we see for Caitlin Clark, Logan?

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I had no idea Monday night was the first time that they unveiled their player jerseys. So you could buy- It looks good on you. Oh, am I modeling? So no, but it was really cool. Like every single team's jersey was lined up and there were multiple of all of them with every single player's name and number. So you could literally buy your favorite player's jersey. It was really awesome.

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So I do think there's some players that will generate that kind of fandom. I do think to your point, like the logo threes, the no look passes, her style of play, how she shows up in big moments, that is generational and exciting.

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And I do think full stop, the level of eyeballs, butts in seats, money being spent, and attention around Kaitlyn Clark, there is a gap for everybody else in women's basketball. So full on respect for what she is doing. But I think there's other players. I think a healthy Paige Beckers has aura. I think Juju Watkins can be that, just continuing to have team and individual success.

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I think that in the WNBA right now, I did want to point out, I think there's one player who's not at the same level, but also a big time draw. And I would say Angel Reese. I don't even know why. I don't even really truly know what my affiliation is to her, like what my personal draws.

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But when I had to make a choice on where I was going to spend my one jersey purchase on, it ended up being Angel Reese. So I do think that like there's other players who are big draws, who captivate you and make you want to spend money, you know, and want to see them.

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I got the Rose. There's a lot of space and islands in a three on three basketball situation. So you got to have somebody who can like create their own space, create their own shot. They got players like that. Chelsea Gray, Kalia Copper. You also got a nice combination of defenders. Brittany Sykes, Lexi Hull defends. You got size as a Ray Stevens. You got Angel Reese. And I think Angel's tenacity.

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I happen to watch a couple of games. They can't.

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Yeah, well, I called that the Rose, you know, would be a really good team. I picked them as my favorite. They've now, they didn't start that way. So like, you know, look, it's easy to now, you know, point out the moment, oh, I was right. But at first they struggled. They've now won six of the last seven. And they've clinched the second playoff appearance after the Owls.

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And so this is a team that is being led by Chelsea Gray. She's their MVP. She's playing out of her mind. We're also seeing great offensive improvement from Angel Reese. You know, I said nobody can box her out. She's going to rebound. Yeah, she's owning the glass. But bigger than that, she looks a lot more poised on offense. And Lexi Hull is a worker.

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I picked out Rose. My name's Roz. I like Rose. I thought the color schemes would be easy to match. Camo, also I got the Angel Reese joint. So shout out to Angel. But it was such a cute night. I went to Fan Fest. I like won a shooting game. And then like the actual experience in the arena itself was so cracking. I caught a historic night. Girl, I hope you were watching.

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So this team is coming together at the right time. What are you seeing?

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Yeah, I mean, Hull Island, you've heard they said that? So she brings, she's just a worker. She's going to cut and move without the ball. She's going to crash and try to attack the glass. She's going to work hard on defense. And you know where you learn to be a great full-bodied player like that? at Stanford University. Boom! Yeah, Lexi! Go Card!

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But, you know, I also want to point out another team and I want to point out the Laces, who right now are sitting outside of the playoff top four and their record is deceiving. If this team in the Laces can manage to find a way to squeak into the playoffs, they are dangerous. Don't look at that record because they were strong to begin with and they got tripped up. Everybody got hurt.

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The entire team was injured and then all relief pool players. And now everybody's back and all of those healthy players that are back. Alyssa Thomas, Jackie Young, Tiffany Hayes, and of course Kayla McBride. Those are some veteran dogs, buckets, experienced assassins, two-way players, defensive stalwarts, tough. Like they can compete with anyone.

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So if they get in there, they are a dangerous wild card.

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You know, the team you wanted to be was a March team. You wanted to be ramping up and improving at this time of season. Shout out to coach Phil Handy, who has had this team improve collectively. And he's worked really hard with each of those players individually. And you're seeing that. payoff.

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You're seeing from a veteran player like Courtney Vandersloot, who at times is leading the competitive fire for this team. Or you're seeing the individual improvement and the increase of joy and engagement over the entire body of a game from Jewel Lloyd. And that was something she was working on. Not busting out for 20 straight points.

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No, just over the course of the whole game, playing with joy and making contributions. So her improvement. But everything The Mist is doing is anchored by Breanna Stewart. You know, Breanna Stewart is what makes them go. And let's look at some highlights of Stewie, because she's been, in this three-game winning streak for the Miss, she's been a huge part of it.

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Stewie is one of the best players in the world, and she's been doing a great job at Unrivaled getting to the rim, getting to the basket, attacking off the bounce, playing with her back to the cup, running her lane. She's got all these different moves, counter moves for counter moves. But what impresses me most about Stewie

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Did you see Brittany Griner with the first ever dunk in Unrivaled history? I did. And it was all over my feed this morning. Absolutely love it. I don't know what's crazier. The fact that like this was not like a running start dunk. It was in the action of like the flow of offense and a half court set, really nice pass, really great finish.

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You're talking about one of the best players in the world who's so willing to do the dirty work. Like she is on the glass. She's in there making things, gritty things happen. She's top five in total points, total assists, total rebounds. She's number two rebounds per game. And when she crashes the glass, a defensive board, she can get it and go and impact pace.

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An offensive board, she can get a foul. She'll get to the free throw line. Like Stewie makes great things happen on the court. And she just got a lot of heart.

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Hey, what's up, Good Follow? This is Roz Golden-Wooday, and I am coming to you live from Miami at the Unrivaled Campus. And we have in person here from Team Rose, from the Washington Mystics, my girl, Slim, Brittany Sykes.

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You know what? I'm from New York, and I can't tell. Sometimes people can't tell that. Am I giving New York vibes?

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Exactly. We lined up during your stop with the L.A. Sparks, so I really got to know your basketball game before you were there. Before we actually talk about basketball stuff, one of the things we're doing right now is setting intentions.

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Because you're on the talker tick. You're on the grammy gram. You're doing all the things you're with Gen Z doing this and that. Like, come on. What's up, content queen?

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You might have to hire somebody to do the editing. You just like plop all the content and you say, put this thing together. But that's one thing that I really noticed in being able to be close to you for long periods of time as a fellow broadcaster on Unrivaled and being together in Miami. You're such a lovely person.

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You really make time for people and your friendships and dynamics are so genuine. It's not just like kissing babies and shaking hands like Lisa messing with you. She's rocking with you. And that brings me to one of the friendships that, you know, people enjoy watching. It's between you and Dawn Staley as we, you know, sit here in March Madness and the women's tournament is underway.

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What have you seen as a lifelong friend of Dawn Staley? What did you see in her as a player, as a teammate, as a friend that you recognize now in her as a coach?

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Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, you mentioned her as a roommate and you guys were teammates in the Olympics. Now, were you roommates with her? What was Dawn like as a roommate? Oh, my God.

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Hey, what's up, y'all? Welcome to Good Follow, presented by DraftKings. I'm Roz Gold on Wooday, and that right there, that's my girl, Logan Hackett. Logan, how are you doing? I'm great. How are you? Girl, I'm so excited. There's so much happening in basketball. March Madness, it's now. We are in the April part of it. We are heading to the Final Four. I'm heading to Tampa. I'm so excited.

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Yeah. Yeah. You also mentioned you work well together. What are the chances you could see yourself? You know, is there any truth to these rumors that might be circulating right now and buzzing that you could work together on a coaching staff? Because I know this is something you had talked about being interested in on the WNBA side.

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And now there's all this buzz that, oh, Lisa and Dawn may link up.

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Okay. Okay. We keep it moving then. You know, within the March Madness, we have had some sadness, obviously with the injury to the ACL of Juju Watkins. And I know this also hits home to, you know, USC is your alma mater. What does this injury mean for the trajectory of the career of Juju Watkins?

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Yes, yes, I have no doubts. I mean, this is something that has been overcome before in an ACL, but it certainly was shocking, right, and heard around the women's basketball world. But I'm here to tell you, as we look forward and look positive, that there is so many opportunities other exciting players and storylines and teams to be following in this tournament as well.

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And this tournament has been full of surprises, you know, so we got to come to you and ask who are some of the surprising teams and surprising players of the tournament and how has their performance and surprises, how's that going to shape the rest of March Madness?

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And what's your take on that? I was impressed by it because come March Madness, come the tournament, come, hey, we're one win away from the Final Four. You better believe that the scouting report is in, right? So what you need to advance are X factors.

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Just shifting a little bit from March Madness into other women's basketball, I mean, where you and I had the chance to work together was unrivaled in Miami. The season has come to a close. Just... Lisa, how would you evaluate this first inaugural season of Unrivaled and its trajectory moving forward?

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Players stepping up outside of themselves and putting on an incredible performance that the other team may not have counted for or maybe made a bet on, like, all right, we're going to take away this one. Let's see if they can beat me there. And that's exactly what happened with Tamia Gardner hitting five threes in the game. I mean, that's an X factor stepping up.

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Yeah, I loved it. Wow. Wow. No, I thought it was a great success, you know, and I thought it was every single thing that could be epic for Unrivaled happened, like whether it was the one on one tournament and Nafisa's dominance or the fact that the Owls dominated all the way and then got knocked out by a four seed or. I can't believe it.

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You know, like it was, it was just, and all the trash talking and the rivalries for 10 weeks, people cared.

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And, you know, with the team vinyl overcoming the dominance of the Owls, my immediate reaction was... only coach Spoon. You know, seriously, you hear about those players speak after overcoming such, you know, such a dominant team. And they all said, boy, Teresa Weatherspoon was speaking in my ear, was keeping us into it.

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Do you think this was a really, just a good showing for Teresa Weatherspoon since leaving Chicago, just the coaching job there?

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Or Jaquez with the dagger three, a big shot, rebounds, just steals, working throughout the game to make things happen. And as somebody who's been a point guard in stressful, tough situations, you know, I'm looking at Kiki Rice, who did not have a good shooting game, but still had eight assists. That takes mental toughness to continue to just stay with it, stay with it.

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So, I mean, and with the WNBA season, it's not even a year. We talking about a handful of months.

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Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, staying in on the conversation around like the WNBA on a whole, this is a pivotal time for the league itself. And attention's at an all time high. Ratings are at an all time high. They're adding WNBA teams. And right now the CBA is in renegotiations. And, you know, we'll get you out around this conversation.

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But as they go into renegotiations with the CBA, what do you think is important for the players and the league to keep in mind and be wary of?

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And speaking of mental toughness, we're going to highlight the fact that Lauren Betts had foul trouble in the game. But what stood out to me is that despite having foul trouble through the first half of the game, she still was able to come in and make big impact. I mean, she had six blocks in the game. She still had 17 points. She made her presence known on both ends.

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It's really hard when you're sitting out for that long, especially early, not to get psyched out, not to get cold, or it's hard to find your way back into a rhythm of the game. And instead, she was able to stay with it. The sign of a really high level and high mental toughness type player.

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on whether or not she should have this guest, Angel said herself, it's her podcast. Shannon Sharp is interviewing all sorts of kinds of guests and he's made his podcast one of the biggest in the country, in the world possibly. So why shouldn't Angel Reese have the opportunity for that, for her to be a platform where people get to take control of their own narratives?

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That was the whole point of this in the first place, right, for Angel?

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It's baby season. I feel like everybody's having a baby right now. I literally have started a budget for baby showers. It's getting out of control. Like I have to keep a calendar for all of everybody's like love babies, marriage engagements now. I mean, that's where I am in my life, Logan, maybe not for you yet.

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So we're just like, we're going to the final four. Yeah.

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Yeah, right. Logan, we're rocking out on our show. Good follow show. And it's now coming to an end, my love. So we want to thank all of you for rocking with us, for watching the show. I have seen y'all subscribing, commenting, liking. We thank you. You know, follow us on socials. We're going to keep trying to bring it for y'all. Every Wednesday at 7, we drop.

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We want to make sure to thank one of the GOATs, one of the legends of the game, probably one of our biggest guests ever to come to the show or most decorated in Lisa Leslie. Awesome interview with her. And Logan, any final words before we head out of here? Nothing but love ya. We're presented by DraftKings. We'll see you next week. Bye, guys.

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yeah i i too felt mind-boggled by the play of sarah strong i mean you know first of all 22.17 rebounds that's incredible but also the fact that she got to it right away and early you got a freshman setting the tone for your team and gino oriema challenged her he knew remember we talked about this in the beginning hey the scout is in we're taking away the stars so he challenged his freshman to step up and she did this is part of like the march madness um she's unafraid

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She can play at different ranges. She's a mobile post that can shoot from three. She's undersized, but she makes it happen. And I'm really impressed by her poise. You know, she's heading to her first Final Four as a freshman. I remember my first Final Four. I wasn't a freshman, but I remember the first. And I was with Stanford.

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And literally, like, my first shot of the game, I believe I was starting. Yeah, I was a starter. My first shot of the game, I shot right over the rim. Like, whoop. Just right over it. And I think Tara just yanked me right away. I don't know. But more to say, like, yo, these moments are big. These stages are big.

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i love the shout out i think you know all of these guards are opportunistic and she came in was really great she ran her lane paige found her she got some really important layups and you're gonna need a full team effort for uconn but it also brings me um to to paige you who had a 40-point game, now a 31-point game, and she is aggressively hunting her shot. And she's reading the defense.

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If the defense is going to sit back in a drop coverage or if they're going to go under a screen, she's pulling from deep and fast. So she's going to burn you with the three. If the defense is on her hip, she's going to take you off the bounce. And what I love is how strong her final two steps are into her pull-up jumper. She's really set and balanced into that midi, that mid-range jump shot.

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She does not get in too deep. She does a great job of locating the gap and the hole and hits that. And she's really been great for mid-range and deadly. And maybe even more importantly...

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Not you being haunted by the voice of Ryan Rucco. You're in your kitchen. You bet. Oh my God, where are you? Where are you, Ryan Rucco? I'm gonna tell him that. No, but what's up to all of you? I know everyone watching at home. We've got a great show for you. Let me take you through the rundown today. And then there were four. We are definitely breaking down the woman's final four.

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Paige's understanding of the moment, when there's a moment where the momentum could swing or when they need to close a quarter or where they need to pour it on or they need a response, I have found that Paige has been stepping up to provide that in this tournament for UConn.

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Well, well, I'll just add in though, though. I think, I think it's an interesting point too, about like what those shots look like. I actually have been really impressed. I feel like a lot of her shots have been on balance. Yeah. You know, like that she's finding the gap and elevating, you know, elevating for it. I think she's very skilled and under control. Absolutely.

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Yeah, I was thinking about where the advantages are for these two teams. And I think one aspect of this, there's a mental kind of framing aspect of this. For UConn, they've been to the Final Four now. This is their second time in a row. They've been there 24 times. And it's very clear that the goal for them is the championship. They want to get Paige over the hump here.

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This has been an overarching storyline. Now, that's not to say UCLA's goal is not to win the championship, but you gotta be careful here because they are in a different place in the fact that this is the first Final Four in program history. So I think some very intentional reframing is important to make sure that you're not just happy with, you know, to be there.

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You want to make sure you're not just happy to be there. You're not happy with that headline that you want to get greedy right now and get two more wins. And so that's all I'm saying is that there is a mental advantage here that I think favors UConn. And it's just a matter of reframing that could help UCLA approach this game right. Size battle is another thing I'm looking at.

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I think the size battle is with UCLA and Lauren Betts. And I'm looking at the matchup. If we see Lauren Betts and Sarah Strong against each other at any point, I mean, maybe you could see UConn utilize their mobility to create foul trouble or their shooting ability, like Sarah Strong's ability to possibly pull a defender out, perhaps. Perhaps Lauren Betts opens up the paint for everyone else.

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But I still think that advantage goes UCLA. And then UConn, the advantages with their guard play between just experience, productivity, consistency, and pagebackers.

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It's a great point. And I actually think that that is an advantage for UConn though, because we haven't even seen AZ Fudd have some big game in this tournament. Like that's almost like something that could be another X factor for them in the final four. Should she come more alive? Maybe she's just saving it for Tampa.

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And you know, we've been talking about March Madness, but the madness is happening in the transfer portal, y'all. It is absolutely insane. So we are talking about that transfer portal and what's going on there. We also have an exclusive interview with Hall of Famer Lisa Leslie joins the show. And the interview is awesome.

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Girl, experience matters at this point of the season, and I agree. It looked like Duke did not know how to execute down the stretch and just close that game out and win or grab it or steal it or take it. And look, it's South Carolina who continues to find a way. But for me, again, at this point of the year, A win is a win is a win, and they don't have to be pretty. Win in advance.

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You only need two more at this point to the championship, and neither one of them got to be pretty. You just need a W. And so for South Carolina, I think what's key for them, they have an identity around defense. They've got to make sure that they at minimum execute that. And keep the game low scoring and, you know, make it hard on the other team.

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Offensively, South Carolina doesn't necessarily have some go-to, like, huge superstar player. It's by committee. And everyone's seemingly been, like, scrapping it together to make something happen. And for me, what that brings to light is just how great Dawn Staley has been. at understanding what buttons to push for her players, when to push them and how to.

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Like for instance, in the Sweet 16, it was Mylasia Fulwiley who came through and had a huge second half after Dawn Staley got on her. And she recognized in Fulwiley that in the past that she might've closed down, shut down, but that she was ready for that now. And she responded to have a huge second half and push them into the Elite Eight. In the Elite Eight game, Chloe Kitts had a strong finish.

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And she's been playing really strong as of late. But I think that Dawn Staley empowered her at the end. And there's some post-game, you hear them talking about how Dawn was like, yo, we're going to you. And Chloe wasn't fully even sure herself. She admitted that. And she said, I had to tell myself at the free throw line, I'm a good basketball player and I'm going to make that.

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And I found it really relatable because just because you're in these situations and shining in them does not mean that you always know right away that it's going to be you. There are some players who know, but there are some who are figuring it out as they go along. And Dawn. put her players in positions to step up and shine, and they did. And guess what?

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She did that in different ways for each of them. Different messaging for Fulwiley, different messaging for Kitts,

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And I got to tell you that there's a number of coaches, high-level coaches, that don't know how to talk to their players or only have one way to talk to their players and sometimes crush their confidence instead of empowering them or don't know that different players need different things. And as South Carolina scraps one win after another, and these are scrappy, squeak-it-out wins, it's dawn.

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who's understanding what buttons to push, who to empower, and how are we going to get out of this? And so I just want to shout out Dawn Staley on the coaching job.

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Well, when you have two strong defensive teams, possessions matter even more. So that's one. Also, can Texas take advantage of their size? And then finally, Madison Booker. She is shooting only 21% in losses to the Gamecocks this season.

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She talks about her relationship with Dawn Staley, the WNBA's negotiations of the CBA. We reflect on Unrivaled, all the things. I mean, we're even talking about taste testing oxtails, all the things. So really cool to catch up with one of the GOATs.

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What's up, Good Follow? We have a legendary guest joining us today. We have a Hall of Famer, a two-time WNBA champion, a three-time WNBA MVP, a four-time Olympic gold medalist. These are just to name a few of the accolades of the great and awesome Lisa Leslie. What's going on, Lisa?

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Yes. People don't know. Yes. We were together covering Unrivaled and we were down in Miami in Medley and Lisa and I needed a lunch break. And we said, girl, where are we going to find some oxtails?

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We did it. It was delicious. And we had the mac and cheese side, right? Yes. I read all a bunch of your accolades, but an accolade that, you know, may not even be on your Wikipedia page and is flying under the radar, content queen. OK, content queen, because like, how do you love and crush social media so much? And how are you staying up with all of these trends?