Roz Gold-Onwude
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So, you know, hey, look, maybe that's, if you're thinking about bringing in Kennedy, maybe it's also a Teresa Weatherspoon move.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
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Hey, what's up, Good Follow? It's your girl, Roz Golden-Wade, and I am coming to you from our L.A. studio. We have a special guest joining me today, also my friend and a basketball legend. She was the number one draft pick in 2009 and then followed up as the Rookie of the Year. She's a five-time WNBA All-Star, a two-time Olympic gold medalist.
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She played both sides of the ball, a two-time scoring champ, a two-time steals leader. friend to the show, friend to me, Aja McCarty is here! What's going on, Aja? Thank you so much, man. The introduction was amazing. I mean, I could have said more. I could have said multi-hyphenate, musician, director, multi-faceted businesswoman. Stop it, stop it.
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Anomaly is Angel McCautry, basketball WNBA legend here to break down these topics with us in the A Block. My girl's going to sit down. This is my home, girl. We're going to sit down and have a nice conversation and interview for y'all. So stay with us.
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But, you know, just cool as a fan, because I know you came here from Egypt, from Turkey. You pulled up on Good Follow from worldwide.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
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Yeah. I remember you more from college. Really? Yeah. I mean, you were a beast. We're the same class. But I feel like we never got to play each other. We never played. We were in the same Final Four. We were. Yeah. I remember you clearly from the Final Four. Final Four.
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But, yo, thank you for pulling up on the show. For sure. Actually, let's go there. Let's go back to 2009. Ooh, long time ago, Ross. It is becoming a long time now. How old are we now? Shoot, I'm 25.
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In 2009, you were the number one draft pick. And I want to take you back in memory lane. Let's take a look. Ooh. Take a look.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
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And how about the black leather with the office pencil skirt? Seriously, we picked that out an hour before.
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But that was also the fashion and office couture, if you will. Yes. I mean, can you imagine now we literally just came off the 2025 draft and it's like orange carpet, like stylists, there's coach bags, partnerships. How do you compare the drafts from then to now?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you were still holding it down for those days. We had to hold it down for what it was.
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Yeah. So, actually, continuing on, you were a hit right away. Like, your number one draft pick, and then you're the rookie of the year. Actually, not right away.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
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Was there a vet that helped you stay in the right mindset to be ready for your name to be called?
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Subscribe, subscribe, tell your friends. I'm ready to go. Let's go, Logan.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
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You tore my ACL as well.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
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Yeah.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
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Is there any sense of like, and I don't know this about you, do you have a chip on your shoulder in some ways? Because, you know, to win a Rookie of the Year off the half the season, there was somebody who wasn't ready to give you your chance right away.
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Yeah, you seem like the type when you put your mind to something, you do it. And you've been a part of a lot of greatness and also shifting programs into greatness. So we talked about on top, like, you know, you guys made it all the way to the final four. You eventually made it to the championship, but dropped to UConn in 2009. Your dream, the very next season in 2010, made it to the WNBA finals.
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And I actually have it written. You were at the finals in 2010 versus the Storm. In 2011 in the finals again versus the Lynx this time. You then return back in 2013 in the finals versus the Lynx again. Unfortunately, in all of these, you fall short. But this is different times. This is a three-game series. I believe you respectfully... Don't forget Vegas. I went to the finals with Vegas.
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Well, yes, but I'm just talking about Atlanta right now. Atlanta, okay, Atlanta. Yeah, so while you're with the Atlanta Dream... Three times, yeah. And so these happen to be suites because... Yeah. You guys are so close. You get there all these years in a row. Now that you've had some distance from it, what did the Dream need?
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Like, you can look back and say, what did we need to break through to that chip?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
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I know last season you were vocal about, hey, I'm still looking to get picked up. Right now, you're still looking to get picked up. I'm still looking to get picked up. I'm going to put it like this.
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Yeah. So if you don't get picked up this season, you'll retire.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
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That's a nice synopsis of things. First of all, congratulations to Malaysia Fulwiley. A young person has decided on where she's going to go to continue her career. She's highly decorated. I think LSU, she continues to have a chance to contend for a championship. Coach Mulkey is someone where players have had the chance to be free and do their thing. You know, you mentioned Flage.
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Oh, thank you. And to me, you are so much more than basketball, my goodness. You know, but it really was maybe, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like around 2018, like a couple of injuries started to start and stop, put some pauses on your career. And it really was that. And so like, how did you, what did you do to help yourself grow?
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Find some peace around these injuries that suddenly shifted where you were.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
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You know, I truly fully believe that.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
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Not that.
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I've seen you making music. You've directed your own films. You've been an entrepreneur with the ice cream shop. I've seen you active in the motherland. You've been in Africa doing things. What has it been like for you building out and exploring these lanes? And what's been meaningful for you? What are you like the sticks?
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I think you think about those two guards and their energy and intensity and passion and speed. I think it could be quite electric over there. My other side of this, however, is that I don't think that Malaysia was in a bad situation at South Carolina either. And I know there was a lot of critique when, you know, Tanaya Watson came over there and transferred in.
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You know what stands out to me about you? What? You are not afraid to put yourself out there. Sometimes when people are known in this one lane, like I hoot, you'd be nervous to suddenly put out a music video of you singing. You know, you've never been nervous? Don't get it twisted. It's very vulnerable. It's vulnerable for me to even put out a clip on social media.
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I'm like, what if I don't get enough likes, let alone to put out some music or make a film?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
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I'm gonna take us back to a little bit of basketball talk real quick because we have been talking about some different eras of basketball and you got to see some beyond great teams and play against some dynastic teams. So we mentioned Sue Bird and the Seattle Storm and Stewie was there and you also saw the dynastic links, Maya Moore and them.
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How would you compare those teams versus some of the great teams of today, like the Aces or even the Liberty, who are champions now?
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Yeah, well, the style of play is a little bit different, too. It's a style of play. I could put it like that. Because there's some great players right now, and a lot of people would say the product of women's basketball has improved over the years.
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One last lane I'll take you to is just the Olympics.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
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So two-time Olympic gold medalist here. I was actually at one of the Olympics you were at, the Rio Olympics in 2016. I was covering men's basketball. But it was a great experience. Was you at NBC? I was.
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Like, what did that mean for Fulwiley? And for me, I think in college, there's a progression that happens season after season. And I think that Malaysia was on that. Let me take you through. So... When she was a freshman at South Carolina, she was on the all-freshman team SEC. She was the SEC tournament MVP. She got to be a champion.
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Yes. I was actually supposed to cover the women, but Craig Sager was very sick. So I ended up taking his spot on the men's side. But I know that you and the men's team that year was unique. You were living on the boat. And it was like this unique kind of situation. There should have been a reality series out of it.
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Like, what can you remember that was just so interesting, maybe funny about the dynamic of the men's and women's team living on this boat together in the Olympics? I can't repeat everything, right?
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Absolutely.
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He always, I feel like game recognized game. And obviously he had a lot of passion with his daughter being a hooper as well. So, you know.
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Hey, what's up, y'all? Welcome to Good Follow, presented by DraftKings. I'm Roz Goldon-Wooday, and as always, I'm here with my girl, Logan Hackett. Logan, what's goody?
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Yeah, that's the mamba mentality he was talking about. That. Yeah. And, you know, just to continue on the thought process of Olympics, and I'll get you out on this. Is the Olympic process, and put your broadcaster hat on for this one. Is the Olympic process, like, are there politics to it? Like, I know that that 2016 Olympics was controversial, if you remember. Yeah.
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Candace Parker was not put on the team, and it's been very public about the hurt that that had. She said, I'm not coming back. Also, my sis, Nneka Ogwumike, wasn't on that team, and she was the MVP of the WNBA that year. They had just won a championship. In looking back, in retrospect, do you think that, in particular for those two, it's regrettable, the decision?
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Now last season, sophomore year, she's the SEC sixth woman of the year, sixth player of the year. Her team contends again, gets to the championship game. She's in Stephen Curry's Under Armour, like highly visible, one of the Under Armour athletes. And let me give you another example. Last season, South Carolina had a slam cover. Who's on the cover?
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You know, we talked about it. Things happen for a reason. And all of your careers have been highly decorated and legendary in its own right. You know, and... I truly appreciate your humility right now, your willingness to just kind of share honestly and to speak up for other players and also to sit with me in this interview.
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Yes, it is my birthday. Well, thank you for joining me.
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It's Chloe Kitts, Joyce Edwards, and Mylasia Fulwiley. How often do y'all see a six player, a bench player, getting this kind of visibility and emotion? You don't. And my point is, it was never about was Malaysia coming off the bench or not. It was never about that.
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Welcome back to Good Follow, presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. What's up, y'all? I'm Roz. She's Logan. And that was Angel McCautry, just basketball legend. It was so great to shoot the breeze with her, get to know her, and also to have her on as a co-host on the show. She was great, right, Logan?
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You know our girl Kaitlyn Clark, she be emoting hard. She let that passion come out. I think it was Kaitlyn Clark.
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I'm actually unfamiliar with this one, but based off, they both got crazy swag and both are like fashionistas, but I'm going with Arike. I feel like her shoe game is crazy.
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Go Dallas. The content has been contenting. I mean, they're giving unrivaled content vibes, right?
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Paige Beckers. And then I think Dejanay said Paige needs to get some sun. Yeah. I love their relationship already. It's so good. Also, bun Paige. No more braids. She's giving Diana Taurasi. Okay. I like it. I like it. You know when a girl changes up her hair, she's going through a life change. Let's go, Paige.
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I think it's Ka.
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Sometimes when people are so stuck on, oh, she's not starting or this and that, you lose the bigger picture that it was South Carolina that was the platform and the vehicle where you had the opportunity to shine, in my opinion. And it was never about, did she have to start? She just had to continue to progress within the program and grow because we already knew what her talent was. But
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I saw this in passing because my whole algorithm is women's basketball. It's Kelsey, right? But like, why?
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It's called Fingertoes. And it's because everyone in my family has their second and third toes are longer than their first big toe. Wow. It's in the bloodline. Is that like kind of like pterodactyl feet? I know you're so grossed out. She could have saved the last part. Is that like vestigial? Is that the word for that?
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When things maybe like came from like back in the days, like being dinosaurs or I don't know. Oh, no, there is a word for it. Well, we didn't evolve from dinosaurs anyway, but you know what I'm trying to say. Anyway, shout out to those with the long toes, the finger toes, people out there and Kelsey Plum's group chat.
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No, like, weapons, just hands? I don't know. I'd like to believe that 100 people could do it. What do you think, Logan?
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That's her prerogative. I actually think it's going to be harder for her at LSU to have to now gel and produce. There's more pressure for her to be a star there.
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Let us know in the comments what you're going with there. But I know if I see a gorilla coming, I'm getting out the way. Speaking of getting out the way, our show is getting out the way because we are at the end of it. It was a big show, a wonderful one. Big thank you to Angel McCautry for pulling up and joining us throughout the show. Thank you to all of you for watching and tuning in.
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Well, the other side of this, too, is that these and I'm not saying this is done. I'm saying in general with the transfer portal now, coaches can sometimes stack up repetitively on talent. And sometimes it's almost like just maybe so somebody else doesn't get that star talent or just like you just it's an arms race.
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And then all of a sudden you got players who have to be buy into sacrifice culture. Which is actually what I bought into as a college player. I don't think there's something so wrong with buying in and progressing over the course of years and having a sisterhood and earning your spot.
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Right, right. No, that's auntie talk. I'm talking auntie talk.
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Oh, thank you. Well, this is an interesting background because I am at the LA studios. We have a big show because we have a big guest who's also co-hosting with us today. WNBA basketball legend, two-time Olympic gold medalist, Angel McCartrey is joining the show. Go break it down.
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Are you saying because it's within the same conference?
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They're rivals. Well, what do you think about Fulwiley going from South Carolina LSU? It's not a rival team.
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Logan, I know that you are not a fan of players transferring within the same conference. I know you were on a rant about that.
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Ross? I have nothing to say on that. I don't know and I don't condone.
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Is that the number, for real? It's so many players in the portal. That doesn't mean they're all moved, right, Logan? That's not the case. Exactly.
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You know what? Not in 2025. It's a business now. Everything's so transactional. So for me, I think the portal is madness. And I'll first start with the situations where I think it works. I think it works if you're an upperclassman and you're looking to improve your draft stock and you have a feeling that making a move to another team could better that. I'm with you.
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If your coach has blatantly recruited over you, I like the empowerment of, okay, I'm holding you accountable. I'm out. Okay? I'm okay with that. If contending for a tournament experience, and you currently are a team that isn't doing that, and that's important to you in your experience, we've seen that happen.
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And then also, Angel, another aspect of this that we don't even think about, coming from 2009, 2010, my God, The bag, the money is crazy. Like, I don't know if you've heard about some of these numbers. I've been hearing like 200, 300,000 being thrown around for someone to go to K-State and average 8.9 points per game.
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I heard Olivia Miles. Again, allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. But I'm not even going to say a name. You don't even hear me say a name, but I have heard the number of one million thrown around.
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You look good. Why does my head look so big? Or maybe it's my hair. Is this ponytail? But we are coming to you from the LA studio. And Logan, you're in Canada. Eh. Eh. And we're so happy to have Angel here. Not only are we going to sit down and have an interview, but she's going to hang out with us in the first block of the show and break down some topics.
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If you think about it, like, that money is very real. First of all, most people coming out of college, regular people, are in debt.
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And there's an issue with a debt-laden generation coming out right now, coming out of college. On top of it, as somebody who participates and exists in the adult real world, most adults don't even have, like, $250,000, $300,000 in savings account. At all. Right?
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So now as a basketball player... You might be able to come out of school debt-free with, after taxes, maybe it's $175,000, $200,000, whatever it is. You have to pay attention, I think, because especially in a time when people can't even buy houses now. That's a down payment on a house. This is life-changing money.
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Yes. But again, Auntie Talk, I do think there is something to be said about sisterhood, working your way through a program. Having a fan base that loves you over the course of years, I feel like my experience built a lot of character in me. And there were other things that provided value that weren't necessarily in monetary value and later became monetary value anyway.
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Sometimes it's not immediate dollars, but... You know, not everybody's going to get to be Haley Van Lith. And even Haley Van Lith, as a case study, almost didn't have the Cinderella ending. Like, LSU, her transfer from Louisville to LSU, it was okay. It was mid. But it worked out at TCU for her, and she did elevate her draft stock. But boy, you know, that could have went a lot of ways.
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And so there's not every, all of these people in that transfer portal you mentioned, Logan, not all of them are going to be Cinderella.
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More than a great season, Angel. Kennedy came off of a career season in Chicago and then went to China and was the league MVP. Do you know she's only 26 years old? So Kennedy is not even young. She's not even in her prime yet. Very, very talented. This is clearly not a basketball issue with Kennedy. It's very much like concerns about, to use quotes, like her impact on a locker room.
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And so I think what Kennedy needs to demonstrate is maturity, is leadership, is growth. And I actually think the opportunity to play in Mexico gives her the chance to do just that. They already know she can hoop.
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So let me tell you guys what we have in store for you in today's show. We've got a big one and a great lineup. We're starting off, we are talking about Mylasia Fulwiley going to LSU. And then the transfer portal, it's officially closed. We're gonna discuss the impact. Kennedy Carter, she's off to play in Mexico. And WNBA training camp has started. We'll take you through what's training.
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Yes. I was surprised and saddened for her that apparently there was no training camp offer that came after her delivering such a great year. And so I'm very hopeful that she's able to demonstrate that and have an opportunity again. As somebody who's played in the WNBA, do you think it's surprising or overstated the amount of... Like, she's getting penalized.
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Like, the amount of attention on what she might do in a locker room versus the clear talent that she has. Are you surprised by this?
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There's a team that needs it. There's a team that needs the talent. But, you know, I think would you, as a GM, would you prefer peace in your locker room over her talent? Is it worth it?
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I'm not even trying to say that, and no player as an adult, no adult needs to be babysat, but you mentioned Yvette.
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Also, maybe a team I think about hiring, Teresa Weatherspoon, who as a coach was able to get the best out of Kennedy, and not only just be there for Kennedy, so many players, especially during Unrivaled that I've spoken to that have played for a spoon, speak about running through a wall for her. D'Erica Hamby, Jordan Canada, obviously Angel Reese.
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And perhaps that's just the right formula, you know, to make the Sparks a spicy team.
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I know. You already trying to get rid of Tyler Marsh? Dang. Oh, I love him. That's absolutely insane. Nein, aber ich fühle dich. Und ich weiß, dass die Chicago-Fanbase wahrscheinlich genauso ehrgeizig ist. Aber ich denke, alles, was wir in diesem Show gesagt haben, muss man sich vorstellen, dass jedes Team drei bis fünf Spiele gespielt hat. Die Saison hat gerade angefangen.
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Viele dieser Teams haben komplett neue Trainer, neue Roster. Aber das gesagt, es gibt nur einige sehr einfache Dinge, die für den Sky stehen, die sie tun können. Es muss mit der Defense beginnen. In drei Spielen sind die Teams 94 Punkte pro Spiel.
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against the sky you come in there and it's like oprah in there you get a bucket you get a bucket you get a bucket and also they are struggling offensively right so you really have to make every easier opportunity count so they're giving up 19 turnovers a game you've got to value the ball also those turnovers often end up to be runouts momentum plays for the other team and all of a sudden the score gets out of hand in a hurry
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In den ersten zwei Spielen der Saison, sie haben besser in der dritten Spiele gespielt. In den ersten zwei Spielen der Saison haben sie nur 51% von der Freedown-Line gespielt. Also kriegst du Freedoms und du kommst weg mit nur einer Hälfte. Du musst das zählen. Lass uns Angel beantworten. Erstens, Angel Rees, wir wissen, dass sie hart arbeitet und sie bricht das Glas.
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Es ist nicht aus Lack von Effizienz. Sie hat neun Punkte, ungefähr 14 Rebounds pro Spiel, aber wiederum die Effizienz. Sie schießt sogar niedriger als sie letzte Saison war und wir wollten, dass sie sich verbessert. Sie schießt 30 Prozent aus dem Feld. Und es sind nur drei Spiele, aber sie abwertet auch etwa fünf Turnovers pro Spiel.
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Also für mich geht es weniger um das Schießen und für mich geht es mehr darum, die Entscheidung zu machen für Angel. Es gibt Möglichkeiten, sie auszupassen.
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Ich würde gerne einen Angel sehen, während ihrer Karriere, und ich bin mir sicher, dass wir das machen werden, wo sie, weißt du, besser antizipiert ist und den richtigen Spiel ausmacht und Teamleute involviert bekommt, ein Spieler ist, der mehr Unterstützung für seine Teamleute bekommt.
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But right now, I just see a young player that could use more time and more film sessions and certainly is willing to be a student of the game. But it feels like a lot is riding on her. And I also think, hey, that veteran group of Kia Nurse, Ariel Atkins, Courtney Vandersloot, they've come out slow and they were supposed to take more pressure. off the shoulders of Camila Cardoso and Angel Reese.
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And right now, no one's taking pressure off of anyone. So I think just also a little bit more time for Chicago to gel and maybe some rotation shift ups, because one player that has been a bright spot is Rebecca Allen. Und sie ist immer ein sehr guter Roller in dieser Liga. Und sie ist ein sehr guter Vett. Wenn sie auf dem Bench kommt, hat sie Punkte bekommen. Sie hat viel Energie gespielt.
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Na ja, es ist sehr klar, dass Logan ihr bestes Leben lebt. Aber für den Rest von uns, wir leben unsere besten Leben. Wir haben viele Frauen-Sport und viele Frauen-Basketball. Die WNBA-Aktion beginnt und es heizt auf. Es ist eine große erste Woche und eine halbe hier. Lass uns dir sagen, was heute auf dem Menü für GoodFollow ist. Wir sprechen über die Fever, aber sie sind ohne Kaitlyn Clark.
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Und im Generellen, als ich sie gegen die Liberty gespielt habe, dachte ich, dass die zweite Unit für Chicago overall viel Energie und Spass in einem guten Weg gebracht hat.
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You know what? She got a case. It's too early for me to say that somebody is the frontrunner. I mean, I think, let me be honest, she might be. What she's certainly done, and also Sonja Citron, is prove that this was not a one-trick-pony draft class. This is not just only the Paige Becker show. And, you know, some people might have read wrong how good Kiki Eriefen is.
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You know, and I think maybe her season at USC... wasn't quite as sparkly as what we were seeing break out for her at Stanford. But what I'm seeing is a very versatile and mobile post, young, playing with a lot of confidence. And that double-double she has, what stands out to me is the three offensive rebounds per game that she's averaging. Like, she's got a motor.
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Und ich möchte auch Sonja aufmerksam machen, weil sie auch einen Rookie of the Year Case hat. Für sie ist es um ihre Effizienz. Sie schießt 53 Prozent aus dem Feld, fast 48 Prozent aus drei. Sie nimmt vier Drei im Spiel. Das ist ein Spieler, der es da aufbaut. Also ist sie das Team zweites Leading Score. Also, ihr wisst, beide von ihnen haben es wirklich gut gemacht.
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Und sie sind viel Spaß zu sehen. Ich liebe die Art, wie die Mystics hier früh spielen.
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Hey, what's up, Good Follow? It's your girl, Roz Goldenwood, and we are coming to you from our LA studios. We're in LA today because we are in the home of our guest, who last college season won the National Coach of the Year Award, the Naismith, the WBCA, the AP, after a historic season, leading her UCLA Bruins to the first Final Four in program history and winning a Big Ten tournament title.
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So we have Coach Corey Close here.
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I am on the move a lot. Mostly just moving where this game is taking me. As I was getting ready for this interview, I was looking through all the different things about you. And I'm like, oh, look at my girl, Corey. She's an influencer. So I happened to notice on social media you have a like a campaign car rides with Corey. Yes. And you actually asked your audience a really great question.
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Was bedeutet das für sie? Wir sprechen über die Aces. Ein schwerer Start in die Saison. And we're talking about the Chicago skies, even rougher start to the season and what they can do to climb out. Shout out to my girl, NECA's top 10, baby. She's climbing the record books. And guys, does Kelsey Plum have an MVP case? We'll discuss. Does Kiki Iriafin have a rookie of the year case? We'll discuss.
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And I was like, what a great way to start our interview off. So how did you choose joy and gratitude today, Corey?
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Aber ein Wort, das du erwähnt hast, war Vergleiche, was ich denke, ist so dick in unserer Gesellschaft mit Social Media, all den Dingen. Was ist das für dich als Trainer?
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Ja. Es macht auch wahrscheinlich, dass du denkst, dass es eine Evaluation der Zeitung braucht, weil für...
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And don't leave because we have an amazing, illuminating sit-down interview with Coach of the Year, UCLA Head Coach Corey Close. We're going to reflect on last season's run to the Final Four for UCLA Women's Basketball, the Transfer Portal and more. You don't want to miss this conversation.
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So, nachdem du all diese Gespräche hattest, was ich von dem lese, ist, du hast erwähnt, die Spieler waren enttäuscht. Das ist nicht die richtige Energie, die du in die Finale 4 nehmen willst. Aber hast du auch irgendeinen Hinweis bekommen, dass es vielleicht ein paar Spieler gibt, die aus meinem Programm transferieren werden, sobald wir damit fertig sind, egal was passiert?
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It's on the coaches who may not be doing the right things.
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Ja, und ihr habt die gesamte Freshman-Klasse von letztem Jahr verloren. Auch Barker, Jones. Als Trainer, wie ist es, den Transferportal zu navigieren, so weit wie man es planen kann?
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Coach, it sounds to me like you got to delegate because you're also a therapist. You're also a second parent. Your ex is an O's. And now you got to be a CEO. That's crazy. And I don't know that that allows you to show up as the best version of yourself if you're going to do all of this.
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So, just to put kind of bow on the portal conversation. Hey, it's also been good to you.
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I think that was a beautiful shout out. Just to let people know that there are healthy dialogues and two-way streets happening. It's not just individual actors on the coaches' side and on the players' side that are just like, I'm doing what's best for me. I'm glad to hear that y'all were able to discuss that.
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Hat dich das in den letzten vier Jahren hinter dem Ziel gesetzt, den Transferportal zu schießen?
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Interessant.
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Also, das ist ein großer Wettbewerb, Giana Niepkins. Sie ist großartig. Großartig. Aus Utah. Sie wird übergeben. Was ist also deine Vision für sie? Und nicht nur sie, sie wird jetzt Kiki Rice einstellen. Und sie wird einen wirklich talentierten Backcourt für dein Team bezeichnen.
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I'm not going to get caught off guard by UCLA. I think not only are you talented, you're incredibly veteran and you've got some real experience coming back. I got one more player personnel question. Just about the Betts sisters. So you have Sienna joining Lauren, who is the National Defensive Player of the Year, all the things. Projected number one pick in the WNBA draft next year. All the things.
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Well, you know, it's interesting because she used this WNBA, the off season coming into the season to take that time, you know, off from like full time basketball. She didn't play unrivaled. You know, she did the things she enjoyed. She went golfing. She went to Taylor Swift concerts like she did all the things. So, you know, it's unfortunate that she's hurt right now.
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Das ist mehr so wie, okay, du hast Schwestern, sind die ähnlich? Was sind ihre Persönlichkeiten? Was erwartest du im Training von großen und kleinen Schwestern auf deinem Team? Und spielen sie gleichzeitig zusammen?
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Ja, ich bin sicher, dass sie das auch genießen würde. Und sie ist ein neuer Gesicht, aber eines der Dinge, die ich gesagt habe, ist, dass dein Team auch viele Veteranen-Spieler und Erfahrung hat. Und lass uns einfach kurz in diese Erfahrung reingehen. Die Final Four-Erfahrung. Du spielst UConn in der Semifinal und sie gewinnen 85 zu 51. Sie waren dominant.
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Sie waren dominant durch das ganze Final Four. Das muss ein eindringlicher Moment sein, nicht nur für dich, sondern für das Team, für die Spieler. Was ist es, was du realisierst? Okay. Das ist der Gap, den wir schließen müssen. Das ist, wo wir wachsen müssen. Was waren die Momente der Realisierung nach dem Spiel?
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But I also think it might be a good thing. Because the start to the season for Caitlyn, if we're going to be honest, has been a bit of a mixed bag. So I think this is a useful moment for her to watch film, refocus, understand what is and isn't working. Because she's certainly, she's Caitlyn Clark, she's really that talented.
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Ich meine, es klingt klar, als wären das Erfahrungen wie, hey, wir sind hier schon vorher gewesen, wir wissen, wie wir diese Art von Dingen ausüben. Ich persönlich, das ist einfach Razzas kleine Meinung. Wenn es dein erstes Mal ist, in den letzten vier, denke ich, du hast die Nenner gesperrt.
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Maybe in your next one, maybe.
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So there's certainly been moments of brilliance, like her knack for the moment of hitting a timely shot or an assist. She's still filling up the stat sheet, she's averaging 19 points, 9 assists, 6 rebounds. But there's been some high inefficiency there. She's not shooting the three ball well overall. She's had a hard time putting it together from three. And she's turning it over far too much.
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Ich denke, das ist ein guter Weg, das Interview zu beenden. Es war eine unglaubliche Gespräche. Und ich freue mich wirklich auf deine Transparenz und deine Ehrlichkeit darüber. Und du bist wirklich ein großer Leiter in diesem Spiel.
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Danke, Coach.
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Kennt ihr auch diesen einen Freund, der morgens einfach so ruckzuck aus dem Bett und danach aus dem Grinsen gar nicht mehr rauskommt? Der sogar noch vor dem ersten Kaffee unverschämt gut gelaunt ist und mit der Morgensonne um die Wette strahlt? Furchtbar. Ekelhaft.
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The crown is yours, Logan. You are holding it down out there. trying to okay logan i know you're in paris right now but we are at the point in our show worldwide where we have to get to the headlines and the quick hits what do you got for me all right well the first one was pretty big in the nwsl barbara bando delivered the first ever hat trick for the orlando pride and
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And Coach Stephanie White is willing to be honest with her and hold her accountable there. And I think Caitlin's willing to hold herself accountable there. So I think while it's certainly still great production from Caitlin, there's just a lot more efficiency and high-level play that she could be working towards. So perhaps it could be maybe a blessing in disguise for her.
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But somewhere between 10 to 15 million dollars, reports say. And in a turnaround, like a return on investment of six years, that's crazy. The liberty are, as they say, where the money resides.
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Sehr aufregend. Ich bin so aufregend für dich, Logan, in Paris. Ich will dich nicht länger halten. Du bist in Frankreich, du spielst Tennis, du machst all die coolen Dinge. Also, wir werden dieses Episode des Good Follow Show beenden. Ich möchte Coach Corey Close, UCLA-Head Coach, danken, dass er uns an diesem Show beitritt und uns eine faszinierende Gespräche mit ihr eröffnet hat.
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And I want to thank all of you guys for rocking out with us. We try to bring this show wherever we are. I'm in New York, Logan's coming from France, but we're breaking down women's sports and whatever the top topics coming out.
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So viel von ihrem Erfolg, was großartig war, kommt sehr viel von der Arbeit, die sie mit Kaitlyn Clark in der Pick-and-Roll macht. Die beiden sind fantastisch zusammen. Und Aaliyah macht einen tollen Job, die Aufmerksamkeit der Verteidigung an Kaitlyn zu lesen und die richtige Lesung zu machen.
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Seine Versatilität, es ist nicht nur eine Roll-to-the-Rim, sie wird Pick-and-Pop, sie wird einen Mittellinie-Jumper schießen, sie ist großartig. Aber was passiert jetzt, wenn nicht Kaitlyn das für dich kreiert oder mit dir arbeitet? And so I also looked at Kelsey Mitchell, like this is somebody who is fast, who can create her own shot.
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She may be leaned on as well to be someone who can also, you know, create for others even more than she already does. And I think with overall, it's going to be a continued work in progress on the Fevers defense. They've got to continue to get serious about it. And especially if perhaps you lose some offensive power, then you've got to get even better on defense.
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And that's been the talking point since training camp from Stephanie White. Und für mich, denke ich, kommt viel davon aus, dass sie Zeit brauchen, um zu messen und zu gelten. Das ist nicht normal. Es gab viele neue Gesichter. Aber ein Gesicht, auf den ich meine Aufmerksamkeit bekommen habe, der neu zu diesem Team ist, ist Dawana Bonner.
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Wir feierten, dass sie in den Rekordbüchern mit der dritten Halbzeit und dem Scoring gewechselt wurde. Aber diese Saison, du würdest das nicht wissen, wenn du sie dieses Jahr anschaust. Sie nimmt nur vier Schüsse im Spiel. This is somebody who averaged 15 points per game last season. She's now averaging 2.5. Alright? On 12% shooting. 12.5% shooting. This is over a small sample size.
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But more what I'm seeing is just like... Und auch die Frage, wo und wann sie Schüsse aufnehmen kann oder sich in den Offensiv befinden kann. Und deshalb schaue ich nach Stephanie White, um zu helfen, zu identifizieren, was die Rolle von Dawana Bonner mit diesem Team sein wird. Schon hat Dawana angefangen, schon ist sie auf dem Bench gekommen.
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Wenn du weißt, wo du in der Rotation bist, wenn du in die Spiele kommst, verstehst du, wo deine Schüsse kommen, mit wem du spielst. Wie man sich im Laufe eines Spiels bewegt. Es ist wirklich wichtig, einen solchen Rhythmus zu erstellen. Und ich denke, das ist das, was man tun kann, das ist recht.
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Und ich möchte auch sagen, ich glaube nicht, dass es eine schlechte Sache ist, auf der Bühne zu kommen. Ich meine, wenn Duana Bonner jemand ist, der auf der Bühne kommt, dann könnte es besser für sie sein, weil manchmal in den Anfangsleinheiten Es gibt bestimmte Spieler, die einen schwierigen Zeitraum haben, um die Töne zu bekommen oder ihren Rhythmus zu finden.
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Und in der zweiten Runde kannst du plötzlich mehr bezeichnet werden. Und jetzt kann es sogar ein Veränderungsstil oder ein Veränderungsstil sein. Sie können es ein bisschen langsamen. Du weißt, die Fever spielt schnell. Sie können, weißt du, isolieren oder einfach verschiedene Wege zeigen, um Dawana zu bezeichnen.
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Und dann für den Trainer, für Stephanie White, bekommst du Feuerkraft auf deinem Bench und du weißt, was du auf deinem Bench bekommen wirst, was eine Luxus für jeden Trainer ist. So I'm interested in seeing like how Dewana Bonner's role solidifies on this Fever team.
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It has to start with defense, Logan. And I'm not even saying nothing that's like science or like some rocket science research. This is coming out of Coach Becky Hammond's mouth. She called her team publicly. She said we're undisciplined defensively against the Storm. They allowed 34 points in the first quarter.
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The Storm shot 60% from the field, 50% from three, and more impressively or crazy, like 32 assists. I mean, that's crazy. I mean, the Storm are good, but they were out there looking like Magic Johnson himself. They were just doing whatever they wanted against the Aces, cutting in front of them, beating them to the spot. They couldn't jump to the ball. They just absolutely outplayed them.
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And the defense really didn't make Seattle feel anything. Es gibt keinen Unruhe, den du von der anderen Mannschaft siehst. Jetzt spielen sie die Sparke. Es gibt Potenzial, dass sie emotional beteiligt werden. Es ist das erste Mal, dass sie Kelsey Plum wieder sehen. Und natürlich ist Erika Hamby auf der Mannschaft. Oftmals sind es Emotion und Disziplin. Sind diese Wörter oft zusammengehend?
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Nicht immer. Aber es ist ein gesundes Test für sie. Und hier ist das gute Neues für die Aces. Ihr letztes Spiel gegen die Sparks. Vier Tage inzwischen. Vier Tage für Praxis. Und sie brauchen die Praxis. Also das wird wirklich wichtig für sie. Ein Spieler. Und Mädchen, du weißt, dass du und ich in Miami zu Unrivaled gingst, oder? Wie gut war Chelsea Gray in Unrivaled?
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Point blank period. And I'm shocked about Chelsea. I'm wondering what's going on. Because she's kind of had a slow start to the season. And I'm not even just talking about points. I'm talking about the assists. Like Chelsea makes so many things happen for everyone else. And it's all down. So oftentimes with Chelsea Gray, whatever team she's on, as she goes, they go.
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So I just, I've got my eyes on that. And we'll see how the aces try to respond.
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Es ist der Körper der Arbeit für mich, Baby. Es ist der Körper der Arbeit für mich. Sie ist 14 Rebounds weg von Top 10 All-Time und Rebounds. Wir sprechen über jemanden, der in der ersten Hälfte der Saison in den Top 10 Rebounds in den Rekordbüchern war. Jetzt ist sie wieder 20 und 10, aber beide sind Karriere-Highs für sie. Und sie macht es auf Offense und Defense.
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Sie hat ihre gesamte Karriere dominiert. Wenn du ever müde bist, geh auf Basketballreferenzen und schau auf Nekas Stats. Ich meine, es ist wirklich wie das, wenn du die Wörter Konsistenz in der Diktatur schaust, sollte es ein Bild von Neka Ogumike neben ihren Stats, Karriere-Stats sein. Weil das ist, was sie ist. Und ich, das ist mein Freund und auch mein früherer Teamlehrer.
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Sie ist eine sehr glaubwürdig, intelligent, all die Dinge, abhängig. Und das ist so, wie sie spielt. Sie spielt sehr abhängig und glaubwürdig. Und sie macht alle richtigen Reden. Sie ist skiliert, sehr skiliert. Aufgrund der Athletik, die sie hat. Aber sie macht alle richtigen Reden. Und sie macht ihre Teamleute auch besser. Und sie bricht das Glas. Und schau, Nneka spielt an jedem Bereich.
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Hey, what's up everyone and welcome to Good Follows. Good Follows presented by DraftKings and my name is Roz Goldonwude and that is my girl, that's my co-host, Logan Hackett. And guys, she's actually coming to us. She's so dedicated. She's coming to us from France and Paris. You're out there with your mom. What exactly are you doing, Logan?
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Sie hat Touch von jedem Bereich. Es ist ein Masterclass. Also Applaus für Nneka.
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Absolut ist sie es. Weißt du, das Einzige, was Kelsey Plum potenziell zurückhalten könnte, ist, dass ihr Team mit ihr da sein muss. Sie muss nur darauf achten, dass die Sparke weiterhin gewinnen, weil sie zweiter in der Liga ist in der Scoring. Sie ist auch Top 10 in der Liga in Assists und Steals. Sie macht eine ganze Menge tolle Dinge für ihr Team auf beiden Seiten.
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Du sprichst auch über die Effizienz. Über 40 Prozent von drei. Du sprichst über jemanden, der viele Schüsse nimmt, der viele Punkte abgibt. Das ist kein Roller, den du penetrieren und ausdrücken kannst. Sie macht Dinge passieren. Und sie, eine Sache, die ich immer über Kelsey Plum wusste, sie ist ein Arbeiter. Und dann ist sie hochskillig. Das ist eine tolle Kombination.
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Und sie ist ein toller Kreator für ihren eigenen Schuss und seine Teamleute. Und wahrscheinlich, was mir am meisten zu mir steht, über die Art, wie Kelsey gerade spielt, ist die Assistenz, die sie hat. In ihrem letzten Spiel hatte sie acht Assistenz. Sie ist einfach, und es ist die Art, wie sie es auf dem Dribble macht. Sie kann fangen und schießen. Sie kann in jedem Bereich spielen.
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Wir machen eine kulinarische Reise.
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Aber wenn sie den Ball in der Hand hat, Es erinnert mich an das Spiel von Steve Nash, in dem der Dribble immer lebendig war. Es ist wunderschön. Sie schlägt durch diese Defense. Wenn du rechnest, ist sie im Training. Sie geht in die Lane, in die Kuppe, sie beendet sehr gut. Sie weiß, wie sie zu dem Herzen der Defense kommt und dann zu einem Teamkollegen kippt.
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Ich bin immer beeindruckt, dass sie so groß ist, was sie auf dem Bounce machen kann.
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Ja, und für mich sind es die Veteranen für die Sparks. Es ist das Veteranen-Spiel. Du weißt, das Einzige, was gerade passiert ist, dass sie ein wenig auf die jüngeren Starren gezwungen sind. Du hast jetzt Schmerzen gesehen bei Ray Burrell. Rekia Jackson ist rausgekommen. Cameron Brink ist noch da. So those are all the big young girls that, you know, players that we're excited about for the future.
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But it's been the vets holding it down. It's been Kelsey Plum, obviously, but it's been De'Erica Hamby. It's been Azrae Stevens. It's been Odyssey Sims. And remember last season when we were talking about the Lynx. And we said they were just the right combination of characters, given their just career story arcs.
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And sometimes that I like this mix of the veteran group for the Sparks, because they're clearly very talented veteran. They're very tough players. At some point in each of those careers, they've all been slept on a little bit. They've all got a little dog in Chippenham, whether that's Kelsey, D'Erica, Azare or Odyssey.
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Ich bin so, yo, Mo ist meine echte Heimfrau. Wir können wirklich über Dinge reden. And it's funny, because I would do those interviews with you at the Pac-12 networks, and literally I'd be waiting for them to send it to me, and you'd literally be like, oh girl, I like your fit, where you get your shoes from? I'd be like, three, two, one.
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Mo, what did you think about the effort you put on the boards? So like that moment before we went live. But honestly... I'm so glad, I'm so proud of you, because you had that vision for yourself to become a broadcaster. And look at you now. Not only are you a full-time, incredible, professional Hooper and WNBA player, you are a blossoming broadcaster with real motion. I see you everywhere.
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Most recently, you were just covering March Madness. I'm worried, good follow show. We're not going to be able to book you soon, girl. So can you break it down to me like... Alles, was du in der Broadcast-Szene tust, und was ist deine Lieblingspart, um diese Karriere für dich zu bauen?
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Wie machst du das?
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Yeah. Yeah. And like, I really enjoy and actually admire that about you. In some ways you've been like kind of a mentor or the inspiration for how do I bring wellness into everything that I'm striving for? You know, cause you'd be busy, but you also have that Zen side. Um, Wie hast du deine Stimme gefunden und deine Leidenschaft für Dinge wie Yoga oder gesundes Essen?
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Ich weiß, dass ich dich ein Millionen Mal über gesundes Essen gefragt habe. Und nur die gesamte Gesundheit. Wo hast du diese Länge für dich gefunden?
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We relaunched this and kind of started this three and a half months ago. And, you know, we're building and it's hard to do it, but it is so rewarding to do this. So the road to 3K begins now, right, Logan? Ja, das macht es. Eigentlich beginnt der Weg zu unserem Show heute. Wir haben eine tolle Linie für dich. Hier ist, was wir auf dem heutigen Show diskutieren.
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Listen, if I had abs like you, I would have a Donut Burger too, but I am trying to get where you're at, sis.
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So it's like, it just balances out. So it balances out. Hey, speaking of projects you're working on, you Hast du gerade was zu kochen? Ich meine, was ist hier los?
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Wir werden sehen. Aber ich würde es gerne. Okay, ja, ja, ja, ja. Wir sprechen darüber. Okay, bald kommt ein kleiner Tease da. Lassen wir uns zu einem anderen Teil deiner Karriere in der Leben nehmen. Du hast alle über die Welt gespielt. Außer der WNBA in der Off-Saison. Du hast alle über China gespielt, ja? Und du bist früh weggegangen. Warum?
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Und kannst du ein bisschen darüber erzählen, wo dein Denkprozess war, als du aus China zurückgekommen bist? Ja, absolut.
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And protect your body and your asset and your business and choose yourself, you know, all the things. And, you know, it's during a time and a shift a little bit of mindset around like what is possible in the off season for women's basketball players, especially with like unrivaled and athletes unlimited. Overall, I mean, 10 countries is a healthy career overseas to be proud of.
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It's also a cool life experience, you know, but Wie reflektierst du auf deine Erfahrung, die du über die Saison spielst, aus einem Makro-Mindset? Ist es wert für die Spieler? Sollten es mehr Möglichkeiten geben? Ist das der Weg, den du siehst, weiter zu gehen?
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Wir beobachten einige dieser Saison WNBA-Breakout-Spieler. Wer ist dieses Saison? Und dann die Ripple-Effekte aus dem WNBA-Draft. Außerdem, was Trinity Rodmans Schmerz für die NWSL bedeutet. And stay for the game. We're playing a game. We're building our own WNBA All-Motion Teams, which WNBA players have had the most off-court motion, visibility and bag securing this off-season.
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have connections all over the world it's been so fruitful yeah yeah you know and i think that also comes with an understanding of self right um but only you would be in russia bonding over soul food and braiding and you managed to find a couple that hair braids together speaking no common language and it's just vibes like that's so um so okay well that might
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Be great preparation for what you're stepping into with your WNBA career. The first six seasons of your career were in Atlanta with The Dream. And recently you've had a few stops. You've been with the Dallas Wings, the Phoenix Mercury. But the most recent one is almost like a clean slate. This franchise is brand new. You're joining the Golden State Valkyries.
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What does this stop and chapter signify in your career?
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Was ist das Legitimum und Respekt, das du in dieser Liga festgestellt hast, während deiner 8. Saison?
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And then, of course, don't go anywhere because we've got a great interview with someone who's been a friend to the show, but we're really going to sit down and get to know her. Our girl, Monique Billings of the Golden State Valkyries.
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Ja, ich meine, du bist ein Licht. Und die Valkyries sind so glücklich, dich zu haben, als sie versucht haben, Kultur im Jahr 1 zu erstellen. Und du sagst, dass du die Perspektive hast, sogar um es acht Saisonen in der WNBA zu machen, ist hart. Es gibt einfach nicht viele Spots. Sie sind nur jetzt aufwachsen. Was braucht es, um in der WNBA zu bleiben?
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Besonders als jemand, der nicht Olympiast oder Superstar ist, aber ein starker Star auf der Mannschaft ist, ein starker Roller und wie schwer ist es, in dieser Liga zu bleiben?
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Und das ist nicht nur für Basketball, das ist für das Leben. Das sind absolute Bars. Und in der Lage der Diversität letzte Saison, du weißt, manchmal bist du mit einem neuen Team in der Mitte der Saison eingeladen und hattest statistisch exzellente Saison. Das ist schwer zu tun. Also sind wir so gespannt, Freundin des Shows zu sehen.
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our very own Monique Billings do her thing with the Golden State Valkyries from a full season from training camp on. We wish you the best of luck and you're going to stick it out with us for another segment of the show though, right? You ain't going nowhere.
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I'm cozy. I'm so proud of you. Thank you.
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Welcome back to Good Follow, presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Mo Billings is still with us after an incredible opportunity to just talk and chat one-on-one and have a little girl time, interview time, Mo. But before we jump into some fun, we have a game for you guys. You know we love games here. We love a game.
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We do want to break down the latest with the Valkyries and what they got done in the 2025 draft, especially when we have Valkyries players here. So, Mo, help us kind of break down and do a draft recap for the Golden State Valkyries. Logan?
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Do you feel like it all fits the identity that's growing of this team?
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Good hearts, big workers. Yeah, we love that. Are y'all ready to play a game? I'm so ready. So ready. Let's play a game. We got Mo here. And guess what? We have a new game called The Good Follow Draft. It is the all motion edition. So the question here is, who got motion, all right? Who got the juice? And so we've created our own all WNBA team, all motion team. We've got a draft and everything.
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And guys, I'm just looking at the rules here. This is a measure of off the court motion, okay? Do you got that going? Visibility, attention, being a fashion killer, iconic moments that the people remember and get some talking, bag securing. Brand Deals, Rollouts, Podcasts, Launches, Mogul Talk, Ownership and just the overall Captivation of their audience. So we talk about who got the motion.
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Okay, Logan. Take them to the rules.
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You know, I got my eye on Natasha Cloud. She could be a really important piece for the New York Liberty, who lost a lot of key pieces as they try to run back this championship. Tasha's leaned into being a dog. They're going to need that. With Benajelene Hamilton, you know, injured and also losing Kayla Thornton. They lost players who brought grit, who could also defend. And Natasha can bring that.
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Oh, ich mag diesen Pick. Außerdem hat Rekia, sie hat den Sketcher, sie hat die Beats, Brand Deals. Sie ist, weißt du, Features und Slam. Und ich glaube wirklich, sie ist auf dem Weg gekommen, nicht nur mit ihrem Basketballspiel, aber auch auf dem Platz, nur ihre Ereignisse und Tunnels. Ja. Ich habe es vorhin in einem anderen Show gesagt, hol dein Rekia-Stock jetzt. Rekia-Stock geht hoch.
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Ja, das ist ein schwieriger, weil die gesamte Draftklasse von 2024 wie ein Spieländerer für das Spiel des Basketballs ist. Wie jeder hat verrückte Bewegung. Deswegen haben sie ihren eigenen Segment. Ich denke, wenn du mit den größten, den schlechtesten reden willst, musst du darüber sprechen. Caitlin and Angel. And this is a tough one. But I just think, like, Angel's team deserves an award.
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Like, oh, they are crushing it. Super mega motion. She's drowning in motion. Like, she got the podcast. She got the McDonald's Happy Meal. She bought herself a home recently, just announced. Retired her mother. She did a Vogue cover. The Reebok Collection. Collaboration. All the things, like... Angels Motion is crazy. What about you, Logan?
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Yeah, she's got a different vibe. Her and Angel do it different. They're both building empires, right? Like clearly. I mean, for Caitlin, I'll just...
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nike deal gatorade selling out arenas recently it just showed that her fanatic her fanatics in jersey sales for the nba she's the number two selling jersey she's not in the nba after stephen curry and then you know number one in wnba and she was the time athlete of the year like respect to all of this Cameron Brink, Shout out to you, Stanford grad, just dropped a podcast.
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No, and she has great motion too, like unexpected quiet motion, like in the sense like, did you know at one point last season, her jersey was number four sales in the WNBA? Number four. Yeah, that's dope. She wasn't even, she was in the stands for the draft. Yeah. Yeah.
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wasn't even expected to get drafted so she got motion and shout out we need some international flair with camila cardoso out of brazil so shout out to the class of 2024 an iconic iconic class well y'all moving on to the second group raj you're up first this time who are you taking out of the vets Oh, this is a tough one out of the veteran group.
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There's a lot, you know, like, well, first of all, our girl Mo Billings is in there. Okay, she's doing all the broadcasting, the Athleta longtime partnership there, the brand deals. Since you're here, I'm not going to pick you though. Sorry. Okay. Wahrscheinlich der Spieler, der im Moment die größte Bewegung hat.
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Losing Courtney van der Sloot is huge. That is one of the great point guards of a generation and a backup to Sabrina. And so now Natasha can come in and either play with her, maybe push Sabrina off the ball sometimes or come in and and continue to run the offense for the team.
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Ich weiß nicht, Dijanae, ich werde mit meiner Freundin Dijanae Carrington jetzt gehen. Dijanae hat gerade den Reebok-Verein bekommen. Sie hat den, was nennst du das? Den Einschaltungs-Spray. Und wir haben uns alle gefragt, wie sie ihre Gesichter während des Spiels so gut hält. Aber ich denke auch, dass das Genetik ist. I'ma still buy the one size setting spray.
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And you know, she's been a fashion killer. But I'd also say, look at Satu Sabli with the Adidas partnership. That's huge.
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Motion and Mogul Talk, Ownership of her own company, her own fashion brand. She's wearing her own designs. Shout out to Saya. And actually she had the Woxer campaign too, the boxer brief company. And remember, it was actually Natasha Cloud who put a lot of motion on the, you say, the poppies of the league. Don't forget the poppies. So shout out to Natasha Cloud.
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Had a huge interview on the Pivot as well. Yeah, I will. Sid Coulson, though, is really cool because Du musst nicht ein Superstar sein, um groß zu sein. Seine Persönlichkeit verbreitet sich. Sie hat eigentlich ihre eigenen Schuhe. Sie macht Veranstaltungen, nationale Veranstaltungen und mag sich selbst als Gesicht der Liga bezeichnen. Wir lieben diese Bewegung. Okay.
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And Natasha likes to say, I'm more than D. You know, I got that offense to come in and don't be bashful, be ready to knock it down. There's going to be some open looks with all that star power around her. And another player I wanted to bring up was Shakira Austin for the Washington Mystics. Her biggest thing, and this is a young player, is that she's been injured so much.
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Right, right, with an honorable mention of Stewie. But you know, both of them were just named to the time 100 most influential people, like not even just like athletes, like people. And that is really significant, their historical impact on the way we look at women athletes in sports and leagues. So they're definitely like, they're just, the motion is crazy right now for them.
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But I also got to point out Asia Wilson. Like, duh. You know, like, like, duh. Okay, so the A1 Rollout, not only was it a cool signature shoe that was beautiful, but it was also very thoughtful. She thought about who she was talking to, her consumer, in a way that a lot of times I feel like, quite frankly, a black female audience hadn't been.
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Like, the satin inside of the hoodie for your hair was... I've never seen that before. I've never been thought of that way by a big time brand like Nike before. Recently, she was just in vogue, like a couple of days ago. Obviously, the jersey retired in South Carolina, but maybe the cutest and I'm gonna call it motion because it's also a part of of lore, the hard launch of her love story.
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here for it yeah i just see asia right now she seems to be glowing and happy and and in an era of abundance and um we love to see that for her what about you mo i think that's great i'm going queen necka just because i see the work that necka has
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Ja, weißt du was, ich füge das zurück, weil Madame Presidente Nneka Ogwumike, das ist auch meine Schwester. Und meine Freundin. Ich habe mit ihr bei Stanford gespielt und alles, was sie tut, für mich als jemand, der neben ihr war, ist nichts Überraschendes. Für mich habe ich auch genossen, den persönlichen Wachstum zu sehen, wie du gesagt hast, die Ausführung von selbst durch die Fashion.
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Weißt du, sie wählt ihre Momente, um mehr von sich zu teilen, wenn sie will. Denn sie ist ein natürlicher Anwesender.
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Und ich denke, so viel ihrer Leben, ob es die große Schwester der Agumake Girls war, oder der Leiter im Lockerraum, oder literally der Präsident und Leiter der gesamten Spieler-Assoziation für die WNBA, und sie durch eine CBA oder eine Pandemie oder all diese verschiedenen Dinge, das ist eine natürliche Situation für sie.
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Und ich bin gespannt, dass sie auch wachsen wird, kinderlich und fröhlich mit sich selbst, weil sie es verdient. Quick shout out to Sabrina Ionescu. Just came off of her Asia tour. Her sneaker, the Sabrina's Nike sneaker is one of the most successful sneaker launches of men or women. It's everywhere. Every player is wearing it.
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In the last two seasons, she only played 31 games. But I got to see her up close and personal in Unrivaled. And just her size, her strength, her mobility, her unique skill set was really able to... in einem Drei-auf-Drei-Format, in dem es all diese Raum gibt. Ich hoffe, dass sie es beantworten kann und diese Saison gesund bleiben kann, weil sie eine riesige Rückseite hat.
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We're talking about a champion, body armor, Home Depot, State Farm commercials. The things you mentioned for Caitlin Clark, she's got a lot of those types of brands and deals too. So all of these women are incredible business women. And Skylar Diggins-Smith, Fashion Killer, my favorite of them all. And of course, all the drops she's done with Puma, she's really been very creative with her line.
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Oh, Logan, die Krone ist deiner. Wenn wir in diesem Segment kommen, weiß ich, es ist Zeit für unsere kurzen Hits und Headlines. Also, was hast du, Logan?
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Oh, ich denke, das ist noch cooler. Paige Becker-Ville.
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Und Logan, wir haben den Motion. or we're trying to have the motion. But this was a show full of motion because we had our girl Mo Billings come and join us. Thank her so much for just always pulling up for us. And we thank you guys for coming and watching.
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Tell your friends, if you got to this point in the show and you haven't already, please subscribe, follow our socials, comment, like, all the things. It means a lot to us as we build this show out. We're having a lot of fun with y'all doing this. Logan, it's been great to see you, my girl. You as well. Great show. Yeah, yeah. And we do this every Wednesday, 7 p.m.
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Und ich liebe Shakiras Persönlichkeit. Sie ist so bereit, öffentlich verletzt und verantwortlich zu sein und zu sagen, wann sie gut ist und wann sie schlecht ist. Ich denke, das ist gesund für ihr Team. Was sagst du, Logan, aus der Osten?
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Ich sehe dich mit deinen Kanadierinnen da. Oh ja. Und sie hat uns wirklich gezeigt, was sie in diesem One-on-One-Tournament tun könnte. Sie hat es alles gemacht, um gegen Fee zu kommen. Also war es wirklich großartig.
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Yeah, I think that entire Dream Team got really close during Unrivaled. Don't forget Jordan Canada and Ryan Howard literally like holding hands at Unrivaled. And then the love they showed for Brittany Griner. That's going to be a squad that already likes each other. And I feel you. Also, the more we see of Alicia Grey, the more we love of her. I just can't get over her personality, too.
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Sie hat das Twang.
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Wir haben ein bisschen über Unrivaled gesprochen, aber wir müssen auch auf Athleten Unlimited schauen. Diese zwei off-Season-Legende, die großartig im Entwicklung sind. Beide Spieler, die ich erwähne, Maddie Segrist und Lexi Brown, haben in Nashville im Sommer bei der AU gespielt. Und ich dachte, erstens, Shout-out zum Champion. Maddie Segrist war die AAU-Championin.
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Sie ist auf dem Trend, sie wächst in Selbstvertrauen. Sie wird dieses Jahr wieder in Dallas kommen. Letztes Jahr hat sie einen Aufstieg in Minuten, was zu einem Aufstieg in der Produktion führte. Sie wurde potenziell von Most Improved gesprochen. Ich möchte meine Frau Lexi Brown lieben, die in Seattle geht.
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You know, she's got a lot of heart and resilience and she's had a public battle with Crohn's disease and she's a fighter. And a lot of the gaps in her career or ups and downs have been things out of her control and she continues to fight for it. And I think, you know, she admitted that being traded to Seattle came as a surprise to her.
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Hey, was's up, y'all? Welcome to Good Follow, presented by DraftKings. I'm Roz Goldonwude, and I am here with my co-host, with my girl, Logan Hackett. Logan, how are you, my love? I'm great, how are you? Girl, you know, I am fantastic. You wanna know why? Why? Well, you know, when I ordered these bells, you know, I said it would be for special occasions. And some people on the team laughed.
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Ich denke, dass ihre Schwierigkeit und die Respekt, die sie bekommt, sie helfen, in Seattle zu befinden. Und Gott sei Dank braucht Seattle Lexi Browns Schuss. Wie der Sturm. Wir sind am Ende in drei Punkten per Schuss, drei Punkte Prozent Schuss letzte Saison in der W. Sie schossen etwa 28 Prozent. Nun, wenn Lexi konsistente Minuten hat und eine Möglichkeit, sich wirklich komfortabler zu machen.
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Sie ist ein toller 3-Punkte-Schütze. Im Jahr 2022 und 2023 hat sie ungefähr 40 Prozent von den drei gespielt. Sie ist eine Karriere-36-Prozent-3-Punkte-Schütze. Wenn sie gesund bleibt und es kann, kann sie ihnen helfen und einen guten Rollen mit Seattle finden. Wie ist es bei dir?
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Absolutely. And it'll be interesting to see, you know, Gabby and Cam and all these players. It's been an issue of either availability, maybe it might have been overseas contracts, it might have been injuries, it might have been health issues that have kind of made these players stumble. But with the right fit,
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You know that and also the right situation that can allow them to just be the best versions of themselves. So we're looking for a breakout.
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Hey, what's up, good follow? This is Roz Goldongwude. And today we have an interview and a chance to chat with somebody that you guys have already seen. She's been on the show. She's been a co-host with us. She's a friend to the show. But today we're going to take a moment to get to know a bit more about her and her journey.
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We've got an eight-year WNBA veteran, a UCLA grad, most recently of the brand spanking new Golden State Valkyries, my girl, my friend, my little sis, Monique Billings.
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Absolutely, girl. You know, you've actually made our show so much better whenever you're on, like the energy changes, because we actually created a segment for you, right? Setting our intentions with Mo. So for this interview, I want to set intentions with you. Do you have some for this upcoming month?
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Yes, yes, present. And there's something to be said about like I've landed and set foot. I am physically present in the Bay, ready for the season. Training camp starts the 27th. Yes, this Sunday. Oh my goodness. So much going on that weekend. 27th Camp, 28th my birthday.
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They were like, why do you need bells? Well, here we are with another special occasion. We hit 2,000 subscribers on YouTube. Yes, we're selling. This time was quick, right, Logan? Geez, it was a quick turnaround from 1,000. Right, I feel like we were just saying thank you for 1,000, but y'all, thank you for 2,000. Thank you for 2,000.
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Oh my God. Don't make me have to fly to the Bay and do a little joint dinner or something. I would love that. I would do it. Don't even play with me.
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Well, for this next season of life, I haven't even gotten up to that yet, because it's been a big start to 2025. I feel very hopeful and enthusiastic about what's coming. And I feel like this is a major...
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Abundance-Segment, just the flow segment, you know, like hitting flow state, you know, just move, doubling down on the work and the grind you've already put in and seeing all of those hopes and dreams and efforts come to fruition. You know, for me, an intention I'm setting, though, is kind of evaluating
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Friendships and relationships in my life and making sure that those haven't stagnated and that we're still in a growth space. And if not, what can I do to water those relationships or let some go, especially if it's not a two way street? So a little bit of a what is Das ist ein Evaluation von meinen Intentionen. Ich liebe das. Danke, Sis.
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Aber wenn es um Zirkel und andere Dinge geht, haben wir das immer mit einander gemacht. Mo, ich erinnere mich an dich bei UCLA, als du ein College-Spieler warst, Corey Close, und du warst ein großer Teil davon, das Legitimum zu bauen und was jetzt UCLA Basketball ist. Und ich erinnere mich an dich. Und das ist, warum du meine kleine Schwester bist. Ich arbeitete für Pac-12 Networks.
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Ich war ein Broadcaster, der dich coverte. Und du warst so, Roz, ich möchte wirklich ein Broadcaster werden. Und ich will, was du tust. Und du hast es nicht nur gegangen, du hast es gesprochen. Ich meine, du hast es nicht nur gesprochen, du hast es gegangen. Du bist eigentlich mit mir gekommen. Erinnerst du dich, dass du mit mir zur Lakers-Praxis kamst und mich beschädigt hast? Natürlich.
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Trust me, every single person, every one of you matters and means so much. It's really exciting to have people tune in on YouTube, to spread the word, to comment, to like, to follow. To those of you who are new here, welcome. And to those of you who have been watching for a few episodes now, thank you. We've really, you know, been building this from the ground up.
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Das bedeutet mir wirklich viel, diese Reflexion von dir zu bekommen. Ich wusste nur, dass du ein wirklich guter Hooper warst, auf dem Glas, ein guter Athlet, ein großer Lächeln. Und du warst ehrgeizig über das Broadcast. Ich wollte nur aufstehen. Ich hatte keine Ahnung, dass wir wirklich Freunde werden würden, so wie wir sind. Es ist verrückt, der Bewegung von der kleinen Schwester bis jetzt.
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Yes, I guess so, I guess so. But I do love our New York studio. I mean, you know, we be in L.A. sometimes, we be in Miami sometimes. But that's because no matter where we are, we have to deliver the show to you guys watching, wherever you're watching it from. So we have a great menu of topics for today's show, because as Logan said, it is WNBA Opening Week.
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Und deshalb war ich beeindruckt mit der Zeitung ihrer Spiele. Und dann letztlich, wenn ich über die Dämpfe für die Liberty spreche, ist es auch ihre Dämpfe im Inneren. Und ich denke tatsächlich, dass alle guten Dinge für die Liberty in der Paint beginnen, interessanterweise. Wie im Inneren.
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Ich denke, es beginnt mit Brianna Stewart und Jonquell Jones und der Art und Weise, wie sie sich im Inneren entwickeln können. Sie sind versatile Spieler, aber sie bekommen auch das Werk im Inneren getan und sie können wirklich aggressiv gegen das Glas attackieren.
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So you've got those two players anchoring it and then you have Niara Sabaly, talk about depth, waiting in the trenches for her name to be called because she is highly talented and has great potential too.
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Okay, so I made a little key sheet for the Fever. Keys versus the Liberty. Fever, Keys versus the Liberty. I think you gotta put pressure on the ball. You have to make the Liberty feel you. The Liberty, one, have great size and they swing and pass that ball very freely and unselfishly. You gotta take away the vision and not make it so easy to pass. You do want another key.
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You want to defend without fouling. The Liberty put pressure on the defense, either with players that are willing to put the ball on the floor and attack the room and attack the defense, or they'll pound it inside. And you've got to defend those big girls. I think they have, like I said, they have an advantage with their bigs. You've got to defend them without fouling.
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I think for the Fever, they can use Pace to their advantage. One of the reasons the Liberty won a championship, they're more than offense. They're a good defensive team. And instead of having to deal with their defense in the half court set, you know, go to one of your strengths, which is play with Pace, beat that defense down the court and do what you do.
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And then, of course, again, coming back to the Liberty rebound well out of a lot of positions. So you have to box them out. Box out. All right. I got on the other side Liberty keys for the Fever. Here's what the Liberty need to do. Transition Defense. This is an Indiana Fever team that can play well with pace. And one of the best ways to play good Transition Defense is to not turn it over.
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You gotta take care of the ball. Avoid those open court turnovers or opportunities where the Indiana Fever's crowd, remember, this is gonna be an Indy. Don't let them become an X-Factor, the crowd, okay? It's already crazy in there. And then obviously one of the biggest issues that the fever poses, defending Caitlin Clark out of the pick and roll.
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So communication and rotation out of the pick and roll is going to be very key for the Liberty. And the good news for the Liberty is they are a veteran team that understands how to do that. But you try your best to avoid confusion against the Caitlin Clark pick and roll. And then lastly...
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As someone who covers the Liberty, I always say good things happen when Jonquell Jones is engaged early and setting the tone in the paint. Get her those paint touches inside early. It sets up the gravity for everything else the Liberty want to do. Drives off the kick out, threes off the kick out, spacing, all the things, but establish Jonquell early. Those are my keys to the Liberty Fever game.
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Games have gone down and we're breaking it down. So here's what we got for you. Wir haben ein paar X's und O's. Wir haben Spieler-Breakdowns von Kaitlyn Clark, Nafisa Collier und Paige Beckers. Schauen wir uns den Film und den Tape an. Wir präsentieren diese Open-Week-Games, bezeichnen die New York Liberty, die Aces, die Fever, die Lynx und mehr. Und Überraschung, die Mystics sind am Kochen.
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Yeah, I actually have to raise my hand because in the season preview that we did, I kind of was like, wow, all these other teams added so many players and talent and the links kind of just doubled down and stayed with the same roster. Is that going to be enough? Is continuity enough? Well, it's looking like continuity. The continuity was continuity.
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They looked really good in their first two games. So first of all, in two games, we got to start with Courtney Williams, who just was the maestro out there. 19 assists, zero turnovers. Und wisst ihr was? Ich habe mich auch gefragt, wie viel mehr kann Cheryl Reeves aus diesem Roster ausdrücken? Es sieht so aus, als ob sie die Früchte ausdrückt und mehr Früchte bekommt.
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Jessica Shepherd hat letzte Saison nicht gespielt. Sie ist besonders mobil, effizient, verträumt und hart auf der Runde. Wir könnten sogar eine Breakout-Saison sehen. Könnte Diamond Miller eine Breakout-Saison haben? Letzte Saison hat sie Verletzungen, sie ist aus der Rotation gefallen. Sie hat hier eine Möglichkeit. Und schau dir das an, Kayla McBride hat noch nicht so gut ausgestattet.
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Alana Smith hat sich gerade wieder auf die Mannschaft eingeladen. Und natürlich habe ich noch nicht darüber gesprochen, ob sie ihre MVP-Kandidatin in Nafisa Collier haben. Hier ist das Wichtigste über Nafisa Collier. Ich sage es oft, aber wenn du sie verteidigst, muss die Defense lockt in bleiben. What she does better than anyone else possibly in the world is her movement without the ball.
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And as soon as she sets a screen or as soon as she gives it up, that's when the party starts. And defense, you've got to stay locked in. I've got some examples for you. Let's take a look at these clips here. Now, Fee's going to eat against Maddie Segrist a lot. But Courtney Williams has the ball. Fee catches the defense standing up. You can't stand up. Stay locked in. You've got to see the ball.
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And Fee, she back cuts and hits a jumper. Courtney Williams, again, the two of them work very well together. Fee passes the ball. You must be locked in. The defense switches and she catches them on her backside. So that's an easy roll slip into the basket. She makes you pay for whatever decision. Fee loves to set screens, I think because she likes to score.
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Shut that screen, look at all the space. That wasn't for Courtney Williams, that was for Fee. And then a little two clap, Maddie Segrist bites and Fee is to the cup. Now you see me, now you don't. That's the oldest trick in the book. She said Maddie and Maddie came out and Fee goes back door. If you watch those plays, guys, that was four baskets and one dribble from Nafisa Collier.
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Vier Stöcke und ein Dribble. Das ist ein Klinik, Freunde. Coachs, zeig das deinem Team. Zeig das deinen jungen Spielern, weil das wunderschöne Basketball ist.
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Willkommen zurück bei GoodFollow, präsentiert von DraftKings. Ich bin Roz, sie ist Logan. Und Logan, dieses letzte Wochenende in der WNBA-Opening-Aktion war es voll von Debuts. Neue Spieler in neuen Situationen, neue Teams. Und wir werden ihren Impact mit jemandem evaluieren, der seinen Debut auf unserem Show macht. Und es ist unser Freund, unsere Familie aus der MetalArk-Fam. Es ist JuJu Gotti.
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Wir haben ein Preview und einen Blick nach vorne auf New York Liberty versus die Indiana Fever. Es gibt viele neue Spieler und neue Teams. Also die besten Debuts in der Liga werden wir uns anschauen. Und natürlich, der Take-Fall, den die Welt gehört hat, zwischen Angel Reese und Caitlin Clark und all den Hot Takes, die mitgekommen sind.
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Ihr kennt ihn vielleicht aus dem Dan Levitard Show. Von Ali Oop, seinem eigenen Show. Was ist los, Juju?
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Ja, wir wissen, dass ihr die W liebt. Und wir wissen, dass ihr Unrivaled liebt. Ich saß neben euch an Unrivaled in Miami und ihr verpasst euer Geist. Und ich sehe, dass ihr eure Atlanta Dream Team rockt. Ich sehe euch bereits.
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Ich sehe dich, wenn du es gesehen hast.
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Oh ja, es war ein riesiger Pick-up, um Natascha Cloud zu bekommen. Und ich werde mich nur noch darauf konzentrieren. Schau dir die Mystics an! Die haben sie gewonnen, 12 oder 13, Ende der Liga, in den Rankingen und all diesen Sachen. Und sie sehen großartig aus und so sehen ihre Rookies auch. Beide Kiki und Sonja sehen sich vertraut aus und sie machen grundlegende Basketballspiele.
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Kiki, ich bin beeindruckt. Sie war früher in Stanford. Ich habe sie kennengelernt. Das ist meine Frau, das ist meine Schwester. Sie... Sie sieht sehr zufrieden aus, mobil, rund um die Rippe und effizient.
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Und auf der anderen Seite für Sonja, was mir stand, ist, dass diese alle, zu deinem Punkt, Juju, sie hat große Spiele gemacht und diese sind keine Spiele, in denen sie die Luft aus dem Ball fliegt oder die Sets für sie necessarily laufen. Das sind nur Kopfhörer. Good, high IQ basketball plays. And she works hard. She's gonna run her lane and get a run out.
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Und wir haben einen besonderen Besucher mit uns, aus unserer Metal-Ark-Familie. Juju Gotti ist mit dabei.
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She's gonna read the screen and flare out for a three. Or she'll spot up along the three-point line and a teammate will find her. Or she'll cut and move without the ball. Like, she's just... Amen. Wir kennen sie für die Defense, aber sie hat 25 Punkte pro Spiel und sechs Assists in zwei Spielen. Also ist sie die Veteranin für die Mystics.
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Wow, you know, I love hearing your perspective because that's a fresh opinion. I don't think people would have picked that, but I know Slim would like to hear that.
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Ich fange an. Ich nenne den Nr. 1 Draft-Pick, der ihr W debutiert hat, nicht nur für Dallas. Paige Beckers. Sie hatte ein gutes 1. Spiel. Und ich denke, im 2. Spiel, das sie gespielt hat, war sie noch besser. Und in dem Spiel gegen Seattle hatte sie 19 Punkte, 8 Assists, 3 Turnovers, das kommt mit, 5 Rebounds, 3 Steals, 1 Block und sie hat 50% gespielt.
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Sie hat viele Dinge gut gemacht, auf beiden Seiten des Balls, aber für mich... Passen ist beeindruckend, weil es eine schwierige Änderung für Verteidigte ist, vor allem von der Schule auf die Pros zu gehen. Und ich habe das tatsächlich von Sue Bird gehört, von einigen Großeltern, dass es einfach nur deine Idee ist, ob der Pass da ist oder nicht.
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Es ist einfach schwieriger, sich zu ändern, dass die Grenzen kleiner sind, die Verteidiger schneller sind und das ganze schließt sich schneller ab, als du erwartet hast. Ich habe tatsächlich ein paar Highlights vom Spiel mit Paige. Schauen wir uns ihre Passung an. So Paige, she's got two defenders up on the ball and she's able to see over it.
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She's got good size and vision, a nice touch on that bounce pass. Now right there, she's willing to push the pace, but it's a little risky of a pass. It sneaks through, but it's a long distance. This one, she tries to sneak through with the bounce pass across the court and it gets picked off. It's a
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Die Entscheidung ist schwierig, aber jetzt hat sie einen besseren Anblick auf diesen, hat die Distanz vergrößert und sie konnte den Pass durchziehen für den Tempo, den sie will, in der Fast Court, Open Court Break.
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Also für mich, was ich in diesem Highlight Package zeige, ist einfach, dass sie etwas gut macht beim Passen und man sieht, dass es noch ein bisschen mehr Anpassung gibt, wie man für einen Rookie im zweiten Spiel erwartet. Aber es ist ein guter Start für Paige Beckers.
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Ich denke, wir werden noch mehr sehen. Ich bin nicht für die Dallas Wings, die im Mai da sind. Ich bin mehr für die Frage, wie viel sie sich verbessert haben durch den All-Star-Break. Ich dachte, du hattest gute Punkte, Juju. Ich würde Tiara McCowan anrufen, die in den ersten viertausend fünf Minuten ein hartes Spiel hatte. Sie ist in der ersten Spielzeit früh auf dem Platz gestanden.
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In der zweiten Spielzeit war sie auf hohem Niveau und sie sah viel besser aus. Auf dem Glas und als Torengang in der Farbe. Das war großartig.
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Ja, ich bin nicht nach einem Spiel für die Aces oder für Jewel Lloyd überrascht. Ich erwarte sicherlich, dass sie, das ist Teil der wachsenden Schmerzen, die wachsenden Schmerzen. Sie wird ihren Rhythmus mit diesem Team bekommen, wenn sie mehr Rapporteile mit ihnen bekommt. In einer echten Spielzeit-Erfahrung.
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Ich werde dir sagen, wer es sah, als hätte sie nicht einen Beat verpasst und es sah aus, als wäre sie im Rhythmus und Form von der vorherigen MVP-Saison. Es war Aja Wilson, mein Gott. I don't know anyone who's playing with more motor, force, speed, agility, skill, size, strength and power at once than Asia Wilson. And she had 31 points on 11 for 22 shooting.
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She got to the free throw line, made all of them, 8 for 8. So Asia, check. She looks like she's an MVP for him. But I actually did the math on what the rest of the team did. Der Rest der Mannschaft hat 28% gespielt. Sie haben 17 von 60 gespielt, der Rest der Mannschaft.
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Ich erwarte nicht, dass die Aces so schlecht für immer schießen, aber hier ist die Sache, du kannst nicht schlecht schießen und nicht verteidigen. Und das war die Frage, die ich weiß, dass Coach Becky Hammond mit ihnen hatte. Die Aces haben in Spurts verteidigt, aber für die meisten der Spiel gegen die Liberty, die reichenden Champions, das ist schwer, wurden sie aufgehängt.
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Sie wurden aufgedrückt und hatten eine schwierige Zeit, die Liberty ohne Foul zu verteidigen. Sie haben sie in den Freeroll-Line 21 Mal gesendet. Man muss wissen, dass man sich auf die Verteidigung konzentrieren kann. Und das war eine Frage letztes Jahr von Becci Hammond zu ihrem Team. Und sie bringt es jetzt wieder. Und wieder mit der Depth für die Aces. Es gibt viele gleiche Fragen für die Aces.
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Becky didn't even smile in the media day pictures. Y'all saw that? Becky came to the media day pictures like this. Alright. Don't play with her.
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Das war's für heute. Bis zum nächsten Mal. only on DraftKings DraftKings, the crown is yours
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She clearly did a lot well. But for me, it's Caitlin's passing. It's the dimes that she's dropping, specifically out of the pick and roll. So we've got some film. Let's take a look at the damage that Caitlin can do out of that pick and roll. Now you'll watch Kaitlyn Clark. She's going to come off the screen and look how deep she is.
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Welcome back to Good Follow. Good Follow is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. I'm Roz, she's Logan and he is Juju joining the show. And Logan, you got a game, don't you? We're about to play a game together.
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Oh. Okay, das ist schwer.
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Okay, das ist King James. LeBron James hat einen Pre-Saison-Gut-Luck-Wunsch-Post zu Kaitlyn Clark gemacht. Und ich möchte nur sagen, ihr seht, dass es drei Bilder gibt. Das war nicht nur ein Bild. Das war ein drei-Bild-Post. Ein drei-Bild-Karussell-Post. Bro hat einen drei-Bild-Karussell-Post gemacht, um Kaitlyn Clark in die Saison zu unterstützen.
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Der Karussell von LeBron James ist eigentlich ein bisschen verrückt.
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Ich weiß es nicht. Auch Caitlyn scheint überrascht zu sein. Sie war so, war es AI? Und dann war sie so, nein, nein, nein, ich wusste, wir haben das Bild genommen. Ich wusste, es war ich. Aber sie war so, hat LeBron es wirklich gepostet? Und sie hat es gemacht. Aber ja, das muss in der Vier-Range sein. Was denkst du, Logan? Drei, vier?
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Warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte,
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She's going to pull the fact that she will take and will make this three. That is what sets everything else up. Look, the defense is looking and standing up straight at Kaitlyn and they burn her back door. That's Lexi Hull, who's going hard, going a million miles per hour. A screen here, pick and roll.
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One is the best. Oh, one is the best. Y'all see, I was playing the game wrong. So, okay, games maker and rule explainer. Y'all didn't make that clear to me.
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What you think? Yeah. I like three.
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Das ist Sparks Debüt in der Courtside Lounge bei der Heimwohnung. Das ist cool. Das ist nicht LeBron gewonnen. Das ist cool für die Leute, die nicht eingeladen sind.
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Ja, ich stimme dazu. Ich finde es spannend und hoffentlich ist es ein Preispaket, das mehr Geld in die Hände der L.A. Sparks bringt. Und das ist der ganze Punkt. Die Moolah. But I'll give that a 4.
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Okay, das hier ist Ellie the Elephant, Ellie Minaj, für ihr Debüt, die Saison-Performance. Und ihr seht, sie hat ihren eigenen Custom-Championship-Ring. Ihr seht, sie gab Ellie einen Ring während der Feier nur in Brooklyn. Also wo ist das im Newsworthiness? Das ist Top 3 für mich.
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Das ist verrückt. Du bist ein Hater. Ellie macht einen roten Karpfen, Baby. Du bist verrückt. Ellie hatte eine der größten Breakout-Saison des letzten Jahres. Und jetzt versucht sie es diese Saison zu brechen. Ich stelle sie bei drei.
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And the defense is standing up, still looking instead of jumping to the ball and helping on Howard. Caitlyn kreiert das. Zweitens, zwei Verteidiger sind auf Caitlyn festgehalten. Und Aaliyah Boston, ihre Versatilität und die Fähigkeit, zu wählen und zu poppen, setzt das auf. Die Verteidiger sind auf Caitlyn festgehalten.
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Wir können nicht zu Juju hören, weil er bitter ist. Okay, drei, drei.
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Was machen wir? Was machen wir? Warte. Also der Plural von Valkyrie ist Valkyrie? Das war das erste, was ich gehört habe. Oder Valkyrie ist der Plural und die Individuen... Okay, komm schon.
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Die nächste Zeit, wenn jemand fragt, ob du das W kennst, oder dass sie es gerne sehen, wenn man mit dem Basketball sagt, nenn sie drei Valkyrie.
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Das ist verrückt. Die Sonne hat einen großen Drei. Die Leute kennen sie. Aber... People try Angel in these press conferences. She field so many nonsense questions. Like, I honestly am just here watching her facial expressions. Like, can we play that clip back? Just look at Angel's face. Play the clip back. Her face is saying, boy, bye.
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For a poor question in preparation, we put that at five, right guys?
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Lass uns durchgehen, Logan.
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I'm glad we saved a one spot. I'm glad we saved a one spot, because we're watching a living legend.
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Das ist ein großartiges Lesen von Aaliyah Boston, der diesen Jumper knacken wird. Ich denke, eine der Dinge, die das Wählen und Wählen ist, Caitlyn kreiert so viel Verwirrung, so viel Chaos, weil jeder, rechtlich gesagt, sich um sie kümmert. und so on one hand she sets that up but on the other hand she's got teammates that are very smart and are making the right reads and burning the defense
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Dewana Bonner moves to three all time. So she passed Tina Thompson and then she's behind Tina Charles, who's number two all time. And the both of them are just way behind number one all time Diana Taurasi. And I don't think anybody's going to catch that 10,000 plus points. Ich glaube, das Rekord ist sicher.
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Aber warum das wichtig ist und weshalb es für mich wichtig ist, ist, dass sie das hier machen. Das ist ein großer Ausdruck für all die Mädchen in ihren 30ern. Sie machen es immer noch. Das sind die Mädchen in ihren 30ern, die in der Liga sind. Das sind die letzten Mädchen, die ich persönlich mit und gegen gespielt habe in meiner Basketball-Karriere. Ich habe nichts als Respekt vor diesen Frauen.
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Es ist sehr schwierig, an diesem Niveau zu spielen. Nicht nur sind sie noch auf dem Platz. Aber sie sind dominant und Star ihrer Teams. Also nichts als Respekt zu Dawana Bonner. Und auf einer wirklich coolen Opening-Nacht für den Fever, wo so viele... Kaitlyn Hart kriegt ein Triple-Double, sie gewinnt es. Dawana fühlt den Publikum, ihre Twins sind da, sie bewegt sich in den Rekordbüchern.
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Es war wirklich speziell. Ja, ich bin froh, dass wir den Nr. 1-Spot schafften.
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So how do we like our five guys here? So it goes, Dawana Bonner, LeBron James wishes Kaitlyn Clark good luck on the season with a three slide carousel IG post, which is crazy. Juju, can you think of another woman that LeBron has ever posted outside of like his mother and wife? Right, I can't think of it at all.
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What did he say?
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Er ist manchmal so lustig. Okay, also machen wir es mit dem Team. Also die Top Momente. Zwei kamen aus dem Fieber. Du wirst es jetzt bewegen. Zwei kamen aus dem Fieber. Eins und zwei. Drei kamen aus der New York Liberty. Vier kamen aus den L.A. Sparks. Und dann kamen fünf aus Chicago. Aber es war mehr wie ein Blooper von den Medien.
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The crown is yours, Logan! Okay, we're at the show where we know we're starting to wind down on time. What are the quick hits and headlines you have for us?
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Ist es schön? Die Seafoam-Torch am Vordergrund, die Dämonen blicken, aber es sind alle die lustigen Dinge, die innerhalb des Rings passieren, wenn du es öffnest. Sie haben diese Kräuter-Eingriffen. Innerlich gibt es zwei Kräuter, die man anziehen kann. Da ist das Tor, da sind die Spieler-Jerseys. Es ist sehr witzig. Ich dachte, die ganze Zeremonie war A1, inklusive der Banner-Reise in der Arena.
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8 down. I think that WNBA pregame walk-in is just as exciting as the Met Gala. Maybe I'm biased, but the girls are giving high fashion contors. Rekia ist bereit für die Met Gala. Das ist wie Geometrie auf dem Arm.
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That is Doctor Finals MVP to you. Thank you very much. That's the title. Yeah. Congrats, Jonquell. Oh, man. It's always sad when we get to this part of the show, but that'll do it for this week's episode of Good Follow. Good Follow is presented by DraftKings. We drop every Wednesday at 7 p.m. Eastern on YouTube, on DraftKings Network. or wherever else you get your podcasts.
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Weißt du, Logan, ich denke, du hättest die Fever gut erwartet. Wir haben alle das gesagt, richtig? Ich fühle mich, als hätte jeder das gesagt. Aber wo ich wirklich beeindruckt war, war am defensiven Ende mit der Fever. Wenn die Fever ernst wird über die Defense dieses Jahres, dann ist das, wo sie in wirklich schrecklichem Territory sind. Und was ich sah, war beeindruckend. Sie hatten...
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They held Chicago below 30% from the field, 22% from three. They defended without fouling. They only sent them to the free throw line 12 times. In fact, while also blocking the ball, which is tough. Sometimes you're in fouls when you're going for the block. They had 10 blocks, notably Aaliyah Boston with five and Kaitlyn Clark with four. So I think the defense is my first...
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Seriousness Indicator for just how lethal the fever have the potential to be. And then just their depth. They have so many options. I'm just going to rattle a couple of names off because it's literally that many. But Natasha Howard, she looked buoyant, energy around the rim, very mobile and quick there. Kelsey Mitchell, she is someone that doesn't need Caitlin Clark to set up her shot.
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Like she can do it off the bounce. She can create her own shot. And the pace that she plays with, she is so fast. Aaliyah Boston. You know, remember we had Coach Stephanie White on our show, we did an interview and she said, hey, I think we can be playing with Aaliyah, with AB like they do with Jokic, because she's so cerebral. She absolutely looked like a high IQ player out there.
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It was shining, her brilliance around the game. And so what they're doing is oftentimes she's setting up or getting the ball or screening high out and there's nothing but space for her to then read or make a decision on the right play with. And so she was able to do that over and over to exploit Und dann hier ist der X-Faktor für den Fieber. It's our girl, Stanford's own.
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You know we love a Stanford grad. It's Lexi Hull. Because Lexi Hull goes so hard. She has high impact minutes on both ends of the court. Her motor is out of this world. On offense, she's playing at such a high game speed. She is running her lane in transition. She's cutting back door. She's just willing to keep going like an energizer bunny. And on defense, she is just a maniac, a gnat.
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She's so annoying offensively. auf dem Ball, ihre auf dem Ball-Defense. Und sie ist stark und sie ist lang und sie macht einfach Dinge passieren, ob sie auf der Bühne kommt oder nicht. Also ich fühle mich einfach so, dass sie so ein High-Impact-X-Factor ist. Und, du weißt, Shoutout zu unseren Sanford-Fans auch. Aber du siehst alle die Waffen, die die Fieber haben.
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Und für mich, was es auch signalisiert, ist, dass ich denke, dieses Jahr werden wir mehrere 15 plus assist games from Caitlin Clark. I think we'll see a couple 20 plus assist games from Caitlin Clark. This is game one. Imagine as they really gel over the course of the season. I don't even think that's crazy to say that Caitlin Clark might just really eat up the assist record books.
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You know, I was impressed that Kaitlyn Clark had a triple-double and I was impressed that Angel Reese came out and immediately picked up where she left off and had a double-double. This is a machine. That's not easy business. And she comes out there and just works. I thought, especially early in the game on offense, Angel Reese was able to face up and attack the rim and finish.
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You know, attack her defender. Wir werden auf ihre Offensive-Effizienz aufmerksam halten. Das ist der Punkt, den wir von ihr sehen wollen. Aber an einem Punkt ist die Defense von ihr weggefallen. Und Angel Rees steigt in diese 3 mit Selbstvertrauen und schießt den 3-Punkt-Schuss. Und ich war so, okay, Angel! Das ist ein Bereich der Growth, das ist eine Erweiterung ihres Spiels.
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Und ich liebe auch, dass Tyler Marsh sie ermöglicht hat, das zu suchen und das zu nehmen.
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Ja. Look, I think as far as the foul itself, I think the refs got it right by upgrading it to a flagrant foul. In fact, in watching the broadcast, I also thought that Rebecca Lobo immediately identified that and did a good job of talking through it. Caitlin reminds me of Diana Taurasi. In dem Sinne, dass sie in der Mischung ist. Sie ist in der Mischung. Sie ist immer in der Mischung.
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Und oft fühle ich mich, dass das, was die Reffs fangen, die Reaktion zu Caitlin ist. Und das ist das, was mit Angel passiert ist. Und ich denke auch, dass Angel nicht überreaktiert hat. Ich dachte, das war eine normale Reaktion zu einem Basketballspiel. Und Leute versuchen, ihre Reaktion auszuhalten. Ich glaube nicht, dass es eine Überreaktion war.
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And I think the foul itself in an isolated vacuum is a common basketball play that we see often as a take foul. If we're looking at it as an isolated basketball incident, However, the reason why we're talking about it on today's show is because it's not in a vacuum. It is in the stratosphere of the entire ecosystem of basketball. And now women's basketball has permeated the culture of society.
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And it's bigger than that. So now when you take into consideration the individual histories of Caitlin Clarke, So, here's my main takeaways. It happened in the very first game of the season for these two teams. I was like literally crazy. But it also could be an opportunity. The WNBA just launched their No Space for Hate campaign. And this is right at the start of the season.
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Hey, what's up, y'all? Welcome to Good Follow, presented by DraftKings. I'm Roz, Gold on Wood-Aid. That's my girl, Logan Hackett. Logan, how are you?
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You got a chance to show what this whole campaign is about. Is it just talk or, you know, it's an opportunity for the WNBA, the league and the Players Association to show what swift action after an investigation looks like and to set a tone and a precedent. Und dann der andere Ansatz, den ich hier habe, Logan, ich bin interessiert, was deine Meinung ist.
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As soon as I saw the play, I literally was like, oh man, here we go. It's about to be nutty. We're going to get the think pieces. And I know I wasn't the only one that thought that. And somehow, Logan, we now have
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A number of unrelated national media members who don't normally discuss women's basketball, but have somehow managed from this one foul to center themselves in the discussion and conversation. Wie habt ihr es geschafft, diese eine faule Spielung zu nehmen und euch selbst, eure Familie, einfach eine ganze Menge Nonsens für Klicks und Engagement.
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Ich habe nicht gehört, dass die gleichen nationalen Pundits, die jetzt eine Szene davon gemacht haben, Katelyn Clarks Triple Double oder Angel Reeses Double Double diskutiert haben. Weißt du, es ist tatsächlich furchtbar und es ist so müde.
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Yes, I'm officially coming to you from our New York studios. I've made that move to Brooklyn for the summer. I'm going to be covering the New York Liberty. So this is going to be my new home, I guess.
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Absolut. Ich denke, das sind wirklich gute Punkte. Und wiederum kommt es zurück zu Onus. In einer Art und Weise ist es fast eine Möglichkeit, dass es so früh in der Saison passiert, dass man sagt, okay, lasst uns das in den Mund nehmen oder zumindest lasst uns uns auf einem Weg starten, um zu zeigen, was passiert, wenn es schlechte Fan-Behörde gibt. Und so starten sie diese Investigation.
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Oh, the Liberty are so deep. Actually, I think for both teams, the Liberty and the Fever in this upcoming matchup, it's a good test for both of them. It's a good litmus test. Both teams are deep. But the Liberty in particular, their first game of the season against the Aces, they were 4 for 21 from 3. And Sabrina had a quiet game. And yet they still won big. And it's the depth that shined.
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First person I'll call out, Natasha Cloud! Sie kam durch, was war ihre Statlinie? 22 Punkte, neun Assists, sechs Rebounds, drei Steals. Sie bringt Energie auf beide Enden. Und als sie zuerst zur Liberty kam, war eine der ersten Dinge, die sie mir gesagt hat, ich bringe das Pferd, bringe das Pferd nach New York. Und wir hören das Wort viel herum, wie, weißt du, jemand ist ein Pferd.
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Wie zeigt sich das tatsächlich auf dem Platz? Und Natascha Cloud zeigte das. Es war, als die Aces die Fläche auf den Leading schlossen und sie die Druck auf die Liberty zogen. And the Liberty had been there before against the Aces. The Aces know that they have the ability to come back.
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But it was Natasha Cloud who rattled off consecutive plays, tough plays, at the rim, getting to the free throw line. It was a response in the face of adversity. And that's what it means to be a dog. Also, she got... Großartige Energie, Offense, die sie aus der Defense hergestellt hat. Sie ist in Pass-Lanes, Steals, die sie hergestellt hat, Run-Outs. Das sind schwierige, griffige Spiele.
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And a terror, historic terror on defense, you know? But I think it's cool that you got to see two perspectives of her, like her early in her career and then later as a coach, you know, her fully blossomed as a player. And, you know, you've got an interesting roster that you're heading into as the head coach. And we like focus in on the now for the Indiana Fever roster.
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You've got a unique locker room. It is undoubtedly super talented, but it's such a mashup of unique personalities. And I'll also say established storylines for each of these players. Like there aren't some players that like haven't figured out what they're about or like the storyline hasn't been created for them in the W. And you've got all of this coming into your locker room.
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So, you know, season's on the way. What are going to be your first priorities? Maybe even exercises in creating common ground and meshing this team.
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Ready to go.
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That is a great walk through all of the additions, all of the star power and muscle that you have joining the team this season. And you mentioned the big three. I'll guide you through it. Let's start talking about them. Let's start with Kaitlyn Clark. You have a generational talent.
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Sometimes that word is thrown around, but I think it's really fitting here for Kaitlyn and her talent and her potential at the point guard position. So Kaitlyn Clark. was on an alternate broadcast with Diana Taurasi and Sue Bird. And one of my favorite parts of it. So she's got a goal and she wants to have less technical fouls.
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I think it's a super exciting time right now in Dallas, getting Paige Beckers, getting the number one overall draft pick. It's hard for me to say that Paige suddenly becomes the face of basketball in Dallas when Arike Ogumbawale is on that team and heading into her seventh season there. And you also got Dejanay Carrington. I mean, these are full-blown stars on this team.
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And, you know, she plays with such passion and fire. And of course, sometimes that spills over and sometimes that can, you know, show very visibly. But a lot of times the passion is good. So like, what's your immediate reaction to that? Did Diana give her any advice? No.
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I think this is why it's so great that you're a coach here because as a broadcaster covering you as a coach, players have often said you're a player's coach. And like, I feel like this is one of those moments where like, you've got a good feel for it in working with her. Okay. So besides this decreasing texts, we already know that Caitlin has put on some, some strength and muscle.
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She had that viral picture. You saw that.
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She said it was AI. Yeah. No, but we know she's putting work in the weight room. But besides those two things, what aspects of her game would you like to work with her on for this season?
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And I also think, like, there might be a natural transition period or adjustment period. Being a guard in the WNBA is hard. Paige is built, wiry, and defenders are bigger, stronger, faster. My question is, can Paige keep up her efficiency as a shooter? I know that was something she was always obsessed with and loved. But her shooting ability will create spacing.
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Another part of the list, too, takes a look at Aaliyah Boston because that two-player game between Kaitlyn Clark and Aaliyah Boston, by the end of the season, Steph, it really had a lot of growth and rhythm and flow to it. So what do you envision, you know, that part of the game, especially Aaliyah Boston here in year two of them together?
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If I'm Aaliyah Boston and I happen to be watching Good Follow Show and watching this interview, I would be so excited to hear all of like the accountability and opportunity you're giving her to potentially grow into. There is nothing like a facilitating big. But let me take you to Kelsey Mitchell, who is 29, I believe. So we are talking about prime years right now, okay? What's next level for her?
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Because we know she is a bucket, a bucket, a bucket.
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I think she's going to eat off of the spacing created for her by Arike Ogunbowale. And I also think Dallas now has so much wing depth, because it's not just Paige Beckers or Arike. They also added Aziah James, which is a great guard player out of the collegiate side. You have Ty Harris. You have Dijanae Carrington on the wing.
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I mean, we're already talking about an all star and Kelsey Mitchell, but like an even further breakout season, how exciting, you know, and you keep talking about defense, too. So I'm gonna be looking at the growth in the end there. We got a girl. I'm going to get you out on this one. This is just like a bigger picture way of looking at this upcoming season.
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Because last year, the Indiana Fever, and quite frankly, Caitlin Clark. saw unprecedented levels of attention, you know, and that meant coverage, fandom, and sometimes it could be hard on the players, even toxic. So I wanna just understand, like, I'm sure you had to have given some thought to this and stepping into this unique position on your philosophy of,
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protecting your players and also even players of other teams from toxic treatment, toxic coverage, things that may be hurtful for them as players last season did raise their hand and say, this was a lot.
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And I think that'll be big for Arike, who played the most minutes in the league last season, 38.6 minutes per game or something like that. My girl can have a chance to rest, which might be beautiful for the rest of the team. So that depth is exciting. But as far as Paige, she's so likable. She's easily marketable. Her teammates are welcoming her with open arms.
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I mean, mic drop. So well said. I couldn't support that more. So I think that's a wonderful way to finish this interview. And I truly appreciate any time I get to just kick it with you and talk hoops, learn. I'm just literally, I should be like taking notes. But I feel like, you know, this is a very important time in women's hoops, an exciting time for the Indiana fever.
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And I'm so glad you're at the helm of it. And I wish you the best of luck. I appreciate it. Thank you.
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Yeah. Thank you for the time.
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Welcome back to Good Follow, presented by DraftKings. I'm Roz, she's Logan, and that was head coach of the Indiana Fever, Stephanie White. We thank you, Steph, so much for joining us. Exciting times in Indy! Exciting times for our show, because Logan, you like games, right? I love a good game. Well, we got a game for you. Today we're playing a new game called Big Deal or No Big Deal. Love it.
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Look at all the tweets from Arike, everything. She's got a fan base that'll come with her. And I just think her lighthearted and personality and her being a great human and great teammate, which we've seen her demonstrate over the years, will be very welcome in a Dallas locker room that has a lot of new faces, a new coach. It's a new era. So I think it'll help everything mesh.
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No, they did it with the suitcases. I was waiting to see what they were going to pull up.
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I'll say a little of both. I'll say big deal in the sense that the players in the league right now are in negotiations of the CBA. It's a public discussion. And from a PR spin, it adds pressure on the WNBA to win the headline at minimum and also increase the compensation of the players. It's a no big deal in this way.
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Hey, what's up, everyone? Welcome to Good Follow, presented by DraftKings. I'm Roz Goldonwude. That's my girl, Logan Hackett. Logan, what's going on? How are you? I'm great. How are you? Girl, I'm good. I can't believe it's April already. Can you? Where's the time going?
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I want to caution people to keep perspective because Unrivaled just came off of a season managing 36 players over 10 weeks in one location. And they have six teams that are all league managed. They don't have franchises that a commissioner has to answer to owners for. It's a very different, less complex business model.
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And what works for unrivaled from a strategic standpoint may not necessarily be a best practice for the WNBA. So just keep perspective in these discussions. Now, do I think players could opt out of the WNBA to just only play the unrivaled season? Maybe. It's possible that that could happen.
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But I just think the larger women's basketball ecosystem and the players themselves need the WNBA to be a success. The WNBA needs to be the focal point of the women's basketball season. And it's the WNBA's success that ultimately leads to everything else, in my opinion.
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Yeah, I mean, certainly the WNBA could take some cues from what did go well for Unrivaled for sure.
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I think it's a big deal because all we can see is size, but all I can see is assists because you got Olivia Miles, and she's not just going out into the middle of nowhere. She's got now a full arsenal of huge-sized targets, but also targets that are very talented. These are all players who... played considerate roles, some of them on teams that were post-season caliber teams.
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She's got a squad of people to work with. And it also seems that players want to play for Coach Mark Campbell. And it feels like in the collegiate side, if you're a coach, either you're really great at retention or you're really great at recruiting. And for Mark Campbell, his task continues to be how quick he can mesh and gel these teams in these one-season windows.
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It's not a big deal to me, especially for next season. For me, UCLA is still going to be very good. They return a lot of their talent from last season, and that's really the issue, right? Because it's Lauren Betts, it's Kiki Rice, it's Gabby Jaquez, it's Mia Gardner, it's Duglich. They're adding Sienna Betts, more size. Charlize Ledger-Walker comes back after missing a season. She's very talented.
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So this is a team that's going to be not only talented, but very veteran, very experienced, and very deep. And so those younger players might have been looking at it and thinking, I want to play. I don't want to sit. I want to be a star. And for me, it looks more like a logistical issue more than it is a critique on the program or UCLA or their coach.
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I think they're going to be quite good.
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Logan, great job. I'm looking forward to checking that matchup out, but also looking forward to our quick hits and headlines. What do you got for us?
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Well, culture won at the draft, okay? How about my Africans standing up? So number two draft pick, Dominique Malunga. She's from France, but she made sure to shout out Cameroon and Congo. And of course, our girl Kiki, representing for the Nigerians out there, to the point of being so intentional that her outfit was literally designed by a Nigerian designer.
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Not only the clothes, but the jewelry too. And she looked like a trophy herself. She was just glistening gold. Golden. Even the blonde wig was a change up that I wasn't even expecting. My girl looked good. And speaking of culture, I want to shout out to Hina Pow Pow, who looked beautiful in her Samoan attire, just covered in all of the flowers. She looked regal.
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Who do you think was the best dressed?
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I'm so with you. I think Isaiah James and Anissa Murrow were the coolest on the carpet. Of course, shout outs. I thought Sonia Citron, I thought Haley Van Lith all looked very nice. Obviously, the number one draft pick, Paige, you know, did her thing, especially with her supersized coach bag. I love that. I love the new coach partnership with the WNBA. But I have a category.
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It wasn't their draft, but they stole the show. Yes, needed. So I have a category for the Rizzler herself, Nika Mule. Like, she is just so cool. You could put that same fit on somebody else, but you're either born with it or you're not. It's the shades, it's the poses. AZ Phan with the straight hair blowout. She looked amazing.
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And she changed it up because usually she does the like the two piece set with the crop top. And instead she gave us gown glam. So I was like, okay, AZ. And then Rekia Jackson. Yeah. Of course. Like supermodel. Not your draft, but y'all stole the show. You did your thing.
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Well, I think the league was trying to show generations of hoops, but not having Fee in the calendar year of 2025 on your promotional graphic for the W is very unserious. Fee is a top two player in the world right now. It's not like her team isn't good. They're a contender for the championship. She's a gold medalist. She is the reigning best defender in your league.
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She is the runner up for the MVP. If I'm Fee, use it as fuel. Like let's say Fi and the Lynx win, I'd be up there on the podium like they didn't even have me in the promotional graphics. That's how petty I would be about it. But maybe Fi would be classier, who knows? Hey, speaking of a classy finish, let's close the show in a nice way, Logan.
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Well, I'll just point out Haley Van Lith because I think in our last show, I said that I thought she'd go higher than people had predicted because her season at TCU was a success. Her tournament performance was a success. And I think that helped her go higher.
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And she comes in at number 11 in Chicago, and she's going to have the opportunity to not have everything be on her shoulders, but at the same time, she'll get to learn from Courtney Vandersloot. one of the great point guards of all a woman's basketball, a reunion with Angel Reese, which I think could be comfortable for her.
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And Tyler Marsh is a coach that's well-regarded as someone who works really well with players and develops them. It could be a nice fit for her.
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Well, the headline starts with Sedona Prince not getting drafted. And I think her size and stats alone should have allowed her to get drafted this year. But it was her conduct. It's the allegations of domestic violence that I think the GMs of the league made a cultural statement in not drafting her. And look, Sedona may end up in the WNBA and in the league, but she just...
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they wouldn't allow her to be rewarded by being drafted. So she's going to have to prove her way in. And I also think she didn't have a great final game of her collegiate season, plus her taking seven years to finish college and the injuries. I think that all went against her there. Another player that didn't get drafted, boy, Deja Kelly. First of all, she was decked to the nines.
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She had this awesome outfit on. It almost makes you feel like, oh, how vulnerable and public these players are as they pursue their dreams and that you could fall flat and not get drafted on this very public night. And, you know, Oregon didn't have a great season. I did think she had a nice finish to the season and a great first round performance in the tournament.
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Hopefully she'll get a chance in training camp to show what she can do. And the biggest outcry came for Diamond Johnson out of Norfolk State. So, you know, we're talking to HBCU. This is the MEAC Conference Player of the Year. She averaged like 19 points per game, also was doing it on defense, led the conference in steals. 3.6 steals, was an all defensive selection.
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And if critics were like, oh, well, is the MEAC Conference tough enough? But she also played at Rutgers and NC State. You know, this is ACC. This is Big Ten. And she did well there. She was highly regarded there. So I think the critique and the outcry was why suddenly was she not good enough to be drafted here? Given the numbers and the pedigree speaks, the body of work was speaking for itself.
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Perhaps it's a lack of attention or respect for MEAC basketball, HBCU basketball and attention to what's going on there.
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We got a great show for y'all today. These are the topics we'll be discussing. The WNBA draft, obviously. Paige Beckers and her fit in Dallas. And literally, Paige's fashion fit at the draft, plus all the different looks and fashion and fit that came out of the draft. We take a look at the WNBA's sparkly new Rivals Week and which matchups we like more or less.
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First of all, Logan, like bigger picture here.
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the effort of the league to try and create some urgency storylines that fans can follow this is called stickiness um it's an opportunity also to monetize the partner ally on this is a huge get for the for the wnba so you know look some of these games do make sense right like new york liberty versus lynx that run it back championship and wnba finals it went five games it was controversial
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Liberty versus aces. That was the year before his finals commissioners cup star power, although the aces do look different, but, um, the star power, you've got your reigning MVP. You got to have Asia there. It makes sense, right? Sky versus fever. So Logan, do you like that one?
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OK, I'll go devil's advocate the other way. Like, let's not be dense about this. This is in Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese. You have the two most followed, most visible new young faces in the WNBA that people are talking about. And they do have a history that goes back to college. The rivalry is certainly more familial. fan-created than it is player-created, to your point.
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They don't play the same position. They largely seem like, at minimum, there's a respect there between the two of them. So I just think this is like, we're going to put our two hottest names on TV, and boom. I just hope we can do this without inviting the obnoxious and sometimes toxic conversations that came around this matchup.
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So fever versus Dallas, there's no rivalry, but it is the top two number one picks for the last two years. Right. So like, that's interesting. I'd sign up for that. Like the one, the one, the one, the two places where I'm like, okay, the Valkyries and having a rivalry week is kind of funny. Right. Like they don't even have history. They just started. It's their first year.
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Look, Kathy had to showcase her brand new Sparkly franchise somehow, some way. And you mentioned Atlanta. There is Atlanta Dream versus the Phoenix Mercury. So that's Brittany Griner versus her former team. I'm on that one. I'm like, I'm less into that storyline as much as I'm into. Those are two new look rosters on two teams that are very talented.
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And I actually just think I'm interested in seeing this very good game between between the Dream and the Mercury. So anyway, I'll be tuned in. I will be sad. And I'm just going to give a clap to the league trying to further storylines, fandom, urgency, stickiness, whether it be through rivalry week or the commissioner's cup. I think it's all good for the game.
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And whether or not Unrivaled is putting more pressure on the WNBA with their lucrative contracts. And we continue to update you on the college transfer portal, including the underclassmen mass exodus out of UCLA. Plus, we also have an exclusive sit-down interview with Indiana Fever head coach Stephanie White.
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Hey, what's up? Good follow. This is Roz, and we have an exclusive sit-down interview with the new head coach of the Indiana Fever. She was the 2023 WNBA Coach of the Year, an NCAA champion, a baller herself, a WNBA champion, and my former broadcasting teammate. What's up, Stephanie White? What's going on? How are you? I'm good.
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It's so great to have you on the show, Steph, and that you made the time. I'm sure you have a
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Yeah, for sure. I was, you know, looking up all of your history and stories and I'm like, this is a real indie gal. Like born in Indiana, you played your college ball in Indiana at Purdue. You played for the Fever in the WNBA along other stops. In coaching, you actually were an assistant coach with the Fever. And now here you are back as the head coach of the Indiana Fever.
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Just how has Indiana shaped you and just been a backdrop for you over the course of your life story?
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And she takes us through the entire roster, including her vision for Kaitlyn Clark in year two. So big show, Logan.
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This is a true homecoming in every way of it. And not to continue to use cliches, but it took a village. Yes. And it says a lot about you that pretty much what you said was the whole hood. Everybody believes in you.
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We were like, we're going to get Steph to her dreams. And you've absolutely done that as a player, as a coach. And you've been already a part of... history with the Indiana Fever franchise and organization. Before we talk about the present, I want to look at history because you actually overlapped as a player with the great Hall of Famer Tamika Catchings.
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And as a coach, you were on the staff when that team won the WNBA championship, the only one in Fever history. So let's start with Tamika Catchings. Just like How did she influence the way you see the game and impact this franchise and set a tone for it?
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the chicago sky have the potential to be a little surprising as a team you know like there's no there's there's no days off in the wnba but you know you mentioned angel reese she rewrote the rebounding books uh record books last season and i think the biggest question is like is she going to be a more efficient and skilled offensive player i saw that she was willing to put the work in this offseason um add on rival she did a lot of work with lisa leslie
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And there's just something undeniable about her spirit that like lifts the team up. And that's part of why I think like Chicago, you know, could be tougher than maybe than you would expect. And then not to mention they surrounded Angel Reese, Camila Cardozo with veteran guards and a lot more shooting production. This this guy team is going to shoot more threes and be better offensively.
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And you've got Vander Sloot, Ariel Atkins. You've got Kia Nurse, Haley Van Lith, I thought had a nice preseason. But those veteran guards like that's going to create better spacing on the court. And, you know, I mentioned Camila Cardozo. She had a very nice off season as well. She played in China. It was confidence raising for her. I expect those two with more space to eat in the paint.
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Welcome back to Good Follow. I'm Roz, she's Logan, and that's Mo. Monique Billings is still rocking with us as we continue to preview the WNBA teams at the start of the season here.
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Yeah, I think that experience goes a long way. Another advantage they'll have is continuity. But I am concerned, because so many teams in the WNBA loaded up on talent. And so obviously, they have Nafisa Kalia coming back when you have someone who's in the running for it. She was so dominant in unrivaled play that it had us saying, is Fi the best player in the world, like right now?
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And I mean, she really, her dominance on both ends of the court, her high skill, her movement without the ball, her motor, her IQ, her screening for others. I mean, it's just a beautiful game to watch. So you have a good starting point there. My concern is, Is there more that you can squeeze out of an Alana Smith, out of a Courtney Williams, out of Kayla McBride?
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These are all players who really found a home and have had a renaissance moment last season with the Lynx. Do they continue to have more? Is it enough? Or have they hit a ceiling? Bridget Carlton, oh, she did really well with all of her extra opportunity and minutes. But now everybody knows she's trying to hit that big shot. So I am concerned about that.
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But I think to your point, Mo, like the experience and the continuity goes a long way. I'm going to shout out one more person. Could Alyssa Peely have a bigger role this season? I was actually in Nashville at Athletes Unlimited. And I saw Coach Reeve there. And she came there to watch her play. And I think she's hopeful for her to step up and have more opportunity.
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Here's my take on the Aces. I think the Aces are going to be better than they were last season. It was a down season for them. We'll start with the reigning MVP. Asia Wilson is rested. She didn't play unrivaled. She used the offseason to work out, to launch her signature sneaker, to hard launch her relationship and love. And I think that's gonna be important for her.
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I do think the Liberty can repeat. I don't think it's going to be easy at all by no means. You know, this isn't a team that's just picking up where they left off. They have a lot of new, I mean, they have a lot of returners too, but even those returners, some of them are in new roles. And then for those new faces, there's going to be a period of meshing that they need to do this season.
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You know, there's a lot of wear and tear. Don't forget players like herself and much of the Aces starting lineup, they were all in the Olympics too. Like it was just like, go, go, go, go, go. They played for straight through the past couple of years. Plus their last seasons have been long. Remember they played through championship runs. And so it's just, it's a lot of wear and tear on the body.
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I was at Unrivaled. I saw Chelsea Gray with my own eyes. That's enough for me to say the Aces is about to be good. Because Chelsea was healthy and rejuvenated in unrivaled play. And we could see how much, when she's healthy, she dominates the game and controls everything that's happening for everyone else. And a large part of why the Aces struggled a bit last season, Chelsea wasn't healthy.
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Jackie Young, we're talking about somebody who's already an all star and Olympian, but I think she could like break out from like star role player on a on a stud team and maybe even be a superstar this year because she's like her body is strong. She plays at Rangers. She's great both ways with Kelsey Plum leaving. It kind of opens up a little bit of space for her.
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And I think she's also just matured into like. mentally, emotionally, just really knows who she is in this league. And so I think this could be a big year for her as long as she's healthy. I mean, health is a reoccurring theme. And I covered the Warriors during the peak of their dynasty. And I remember Steve Kerr used to say, fresh blood matters.
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And obviously, he would know from all the dynasties he's been a part of. There's an erosion that happens year after year after year with the same people. And so like the influx of, you know, Jewel Lloyd is good. Jewel had lost, publicly said she lost her confidence and joy in Seattle. And she looked like it. Her efficiency and shooting was horrible. And so now she can come here.
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She looks like she's having more fun. There's less pressure on her. I think it's good. It's the same question every year for the Aces. It's the depth.
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Yeah, I think the Storm last season were not consistent as a team. You didn't know what version of them you were going to get from game to game. I expect them to be a lot more consistent this year. I think the continuity that they do bring back is very important. And the new faces that they bring in are super veteran and very talented. I actually expect the Storm to be a strong team.
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So I've, I've got, a ton of thoughts, of course, on this team and the Liberty. But if I could run through notes, I mean, Brianna Stewart, that's your MVP candidate from last season. And I wonder, is she going to have a more efficient shooting year? You know, Stewie didn't shoot that ball that well from three. In fact, probably her career worse, 29%.
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You know, even just think defensively, Moe. Ezzie Magbogor, Nneka Agumake, Scott can get intense in lockup. Gabby Williams, Alicia Clark. And don't forget the length and the rim protection of Malunga, the rookie. That's a defensive squad, right, Mo? That's a squad. That's a squad. And so I think, you know, you add that, plus they were in last place last season in shooting.
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So you have Alicia Clark, you have Lexi Brown, who are some scorers who can space the Clark a little bit. Erica Wheeler comes in. She could play one or two. She's very buoyant. But this whole thing is going to be anchored around Skylar Diggins and Nneka Agumake, two of the greatest, very different types of leaders in women's basketball.
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Nneka had one of the best seasons of her career last year, and Sky crushed unrivaled. And I think like last season during the storm season, she was still coming back and playing her way into shape from having a child. So I expect like this Seattle team, even though they've been crushed by ACL injuries, three key ACL injuries, I still think they're gonna be a very good team.
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Yeah, I kind of agree with that because I feel like I don't fully know what to expect for the Phoenix Mercury. I know what to expect out of that big three. I'm really clear on what they can do, and I'm excited to see how this works with the three of them together. But I think for the rest of the team, we've got some time here to see how rotations and spots end up rounding out around them.
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So, hey, in the last preseason game, she shot seven for nine from the field. We're hoping for more efficiency from her. And of course, the Liberty bring back in Maureen Johannes. You know, she's an exciting player to watch. And she you know, has a lot of explosive scoring, especially from three to add. You mentioned Natasha Cloud.
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But you know when you have Alyssa Thomas, you're going to have a tough season. team, defensive personality, physicality. She's also very cerebral. You run your offense through her, and she's going to get people going. Satu Sabli is the unicorn for a reason. When she's been healthy, she's been an all-star. So that's the biggest issue.
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And then Kalia Copper is a bucket and really puts pressure on you off the bounce and is coming off of a career season. So I think if those are your big three that you're building around, you're in a good spot.
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that's actually one of the areas that i'm unsure about you know what they're going to be defensively and also how they're going to do with size you know tiara mccowan is going to anchor them and you know does her thing in the paint and then myesha hines allen as well who's undersized but is a long time vet and has proven to be productive despite that but i think like if we were pointing out where there's less depth it might be there versus they're stacked as far as bodies on the wings and for the guards
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And I think that depth will be good to keep Arike from having to play the most minutes in the league again this season. But even when I look at that guard group, I'm like, okay, outside of Arike Ogumbawale in a half-court set, who can create their own shot one-on-one? And I'm not fully sure yet because Paige is obviously the best player coming out of college this season, number one draft pick.
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But on the pro level, is she going to be as efficient as she was in college? Is she going to be able to get her shot off? We'll see. You know, she was really good at creating for others. Dejanay Carrington is the most improved player. Can she build on that? At Unrivaled, she was working with Phil Handy, the renowned skill coach, on adding wiggle to her offensive game.
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And she's got to be able to score a bucket, especially when they're under duress. They're looking at her to be one of their go-to offensive players. We know she can lock up and D up. And then the breakout player I'm looking at is Maddie Segrist. She's got size. She can score. She was just named champion at Athletes Unlimited. That should give her confidence. And she's a young player.
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I'm wondering how her and Sabrina Ionescu either play with each other or in tandem for each other. You know, Natasha said, I'm bringing a dog to New York City. I think the Liberty are going to need that dog. Um, and Sabrina added all that dribble penetration last season. I'm wondering what the next step forward is for her.
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Last season, she was disrupted in her rhythm with injuries and a finger injury and stuff. So I think, you know, there's room for her to establish herself as a number two or number three scoring option there with Arike.
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I like Coach Lynn Roberts. You might love her.
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Yeah, I like what she did with Utah and I'm enthusiastic about what she can do with with L.A. You know, she's offensive minded. You know, you mentioned Cam Brink. I think that we don't know exactly when she's going to come back and like what version of herself she'll be. So Rekia Jackson, when when Cameron went down last season, I thought really shine. She can build off of that.
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And I also think Azare Stevens, that's my girl. I thought she, I think she's so versatile with so much size. She is like, she's like you, Mo. She's got a lot of light to her. And I thought she did well at Unrivaled. Maybe she could see an even bigger presence You know, you mentioned Kelsey Plum. She's the real deal. And Kelsey Plum has been laying low purposefully.
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She doesn't want, she needed some time away from the limelight. And I think she has a fresh slate. She honorably played her role with the Aces and improved every year in that role. and now she gets to be the face of an offense, the face of a franchise, and I know that she's ready for it.
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I'm gonna call out a name, breakout season, perhaps from Rae Burrell, who has had a tough journey in the W, and... unrivaled really showcased that she's got like gazelle-like athleticism, but she's added confidence and hard work, really hard to add skill. And I think like she could be a bigger contributor this year. And I know that De'Erica Hamby really empowers her. That's her OG and vet.
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And De'Erica has been an all-star level player for the last year or so now. And she's a baller. She's going to outwork you, De'Erica is. And I know she's going to be a leading leadership voice in that locker room, her and Kelsey Plum. And I'll just shout out our show, like
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Like, De'Erica was on our show doing an interview and talked about the healing that happened in that relationship since, you know, they both left the Aces. So there's a lot to see unfold here for L.A.
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Um, but mention, I mentioned like dog grit, like without Benigelini Hamilton, Kayla Thornton is now playing with you, Mo.
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The golden state Valkyries. You got a dog over there. Right. Um, You also miss players who are willing to play defense, who were versatile. And so I'm looking at somebody like Rebecca Gardner as maybe an X factor. She's coming off of injury. The Liberty played the long game with her.
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Hey, what's up, everyone? Welcome to Good Follow, presented by DraftKings. I'm Roz Golden-Witte, and that's my co-host, Logan Hackett. And returning to the show, we got a big one and a good one, our girl, WNBA vet, Monique Billings of the Golden State Valkyries. What's up, y'all? What's up, Moe? Hey, how y'all doing? You're in the Bay settling in for the season, aren't you?
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Welcome back to Good Follow. Today's episode is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Well, the rookie class, they have been shining in preseason play despite a handful of them being waived just before the start of the season.
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But when she was healthiest and at her best in Chicago, she was versatile, long, active, energetic, defensive, and maybe can help fill that gap. The last things I'll say about the Liberty is this. Jonathan Cole, the GM, he's got it tight. Like, the Liberty are deep with these, like, five 10-and-up wings who are versatile, stretch the court, can defend, are long, are competitive.
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I had the chance to sit down with former Oregon Duck Deja Kelly, who is fresh off of her experience with the Las Vegas Aces, their training camp and preseason campaign. And she sits down with me for an interview and talks through her experiences from March Madness to training camp to what she sees as next for her career. What was that glimmer of doubt right after going undrafted?
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You're going to be good in life. Thank you. What has shined to me is the character. Your character has shined through this. The way you have risen to the occasion to show grace, to keep showing up, to step up. You're chasing your dreams, and it's really public. You are super vulnerable.
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And I was, I literally, when we came on, I was like, this is only gonna make the testimony even better and bigger and all of that. And also the glory feel even better because nothing is a straight line. And one of the cool parts of your path is that you got to play with the aces. This is a team where they've got four Olympians. You're playing with Becky Hammond,
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Also, not only a basketball legend, also went undrafted. You're playing with the reigning MVP in Asia Wilson. Like, what are some of the takeaways that you take from the experience of being around the Aces during that time?
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You know, don't forget Leonie Phoebus comes back from winning a chip overseas. I'm including Natasha Cloud in that. I'm including Rebecca Gardner. Hey, Kennedy Burke is going to build off of last season. They all fit that model. And then, lastly, Nyara Saboli. who we love to see like when she's been healthy, the sky's the limit for her.
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Yeah. I mean, you could have got picked up by a team that's, you know, in rebuild mode. And then you're it's kind of like sometimes in some situations, that's the blind leading the blind. You don't see the culture of championship Olympian pedigree, but you got that with the Aces. So as a reoccurring theme here is like things seem to happen for a reason.
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You needed to get that absolutely that glimpse. And I want to talk about a major highlight that basically had you going viral. So in the two preseason games, again, average 12 points per game, but in that game against the Mercury, you hit the game winner. You're setting it up with the dribble, then it's the step back, pull up, jump shot, and it's the game winner.
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And boy, I get goosebumps watching you turn around and run screaming back towards the bench. What did that performance say to you in that moment, and maybe to the basketball world?
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I happen to know and speaking with the coaching staff, they are so like high on her. So what is does she get more minutes? Does she get a bigger role? And if so, then coach, you know, Brandello, how do you mix her minutes with John Quill Jones minutes with Brianna Stewart's minutes? And that's a nice problem to have, I think so.
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It was so fun to kick it with you, as always, Logan. And with all of you guys watching, listening, wherever you do, thank you so much for rocking with us for this episode of Good Follow Show. Special thanks to Hoopstars, Monique Billings, Deja Kelly for joining us today.
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first of all just just to keep on marina like this wasn't the situation she had asked for or you know when she asked for a trade um to connecticut and and gets there but i think this is where she showcases she's a pro and she is and makes the most of of you know a big role with this team and i want to come and shout out tina charles who's one of the greatest players of the woman's game period you know you're talking about the all-time leading rebounder in the history of the game number two all time and points
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That's only after Diana. Like she just had a very a resurgent season in Atlanta where she was a focal point of that. I think I think Tina Charles has a lot of juice left. And she comes back to the franchise that originally drafted her, where she won an MVP, where, you know, they remember a lot of glory. And of course, she played at UConn. I think it could be a special season.
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It could be, like you said, it could be more special than people are making this season out to be for them. And I'm going to also keep an eye on, obviously, Anissa Murrow, who missed the preseason with an injury. Mo, that's so crucial for a rookie. Like, when she does get back, you're just going to get thrown into the fire.
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I know. I can't believe the WNBA season is officially about to begin. So I'm gonna take you through what we're serving up on our good follow menu for this show. We have a WNBA season preview. We are going team by team, Eastern and Western Conference. Then we're gonna tap back in for the 2025 draft class.
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Yeah, and I think the figuring out period is important. They certainly loaded up on talent, but they've got to, like, establish identity and trust and roles. And I actually like the way they brought in the right mix of personalities. Like, you know, you mentioned Dawana Bonner. She's kind of got, like, from what I've heard from doing reporting around the league over the years, a respected voice.
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She's got a natural nurturing about her, almost like a mom of the team, you know? Sophie's obviously got that spunky toughness that's contagious. Sid Coulson keeps the locker room light. I'm excited for year two for Caitlin. We all see she's gotten bigger and stronger and we wanted to see her develop the floater. She did that in preseason.
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What stood out to me is, boy, she fills a stat sheet, you know, like points, assists, rebounds. She's on the offensive end of the court. She makes so much happening from from tempo and pace to playmaking. She rebounds well out of the guard position. And I like the fact that she got some rest. She was low key this summer. She worked out. She doubled down, stayed in Indiana.
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And then in her off time, she was golfing. She was at Pacers games. She went to Taylor Swift concerts. And I think that's healthy, like mentally and emotionally coming off of just all of the attention and whirlwind that came from college to the pros. But the biggest thing I think for Indiana, the Indiana Fever.
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And remember when we interviewed Stephanie White, the coach of the Fever, she said, we've got to be a better defensive team. And the good news is they've really only got one way to go defensively is up from last season. And she said she's even going to hold Kaitlin accountable on the defensive end. And they have an influx not just of experience and championship experience.
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They've got players like Dawana Bonner, Natasha Howard, Sophie Cunningham, Turner. They all work on defense. And so I think that's going to be a great identity shift. Also excited to see what Stephanie White challenges with Aaliyah Boston. She said it's going to be a lot more than just pick and roll. She's going to challenge her to be a facilitator.
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So I think that's very exciting for Aaliyah Boston.
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And then please stay with us for an exclusive interview with former Oregon guard Deja Kelly joins the show fresh off of her experience and time with the Las Vegas Aces. She shares about training camp and her experience and then what's next for her. So it's a really nice interview with Deja Kelly. I can't wait to get to it.
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You know, you mentioned the rookie Tahina Pow Pow, like, you know, she might have, she might have an opportunity to do more. I'm, I'm, I'm saddened by the injury to Jordan Canada, who. Yeah. Missed a lot of time last season and had a great unrivaled showing. And, you know, they'll miss the defensive tone that she sets as well as she's got a quiet leadership about her.
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I hope the injury is not that serious. But I think like I think there's more to go for Alicia Gray and Ryan Howard. I mean, I know Alicia was already like she dominated All-Star weekend. She won the skills. She won the three. She was an all-star. She was one of the best players at unrivaled. I think she's got more to do. I'm excited for it.
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Ryan Howard personally told me while I was reporting out on Rivals, she said, this is a breakout season. We already know Ryan is a bucket, but I think the challenge for her is, are you going to challenge yourself to be as great on defense as you are on offense? Because she is capable when she's locked in on defense. And then we started this all off with the big girls. I just want to shout out BG.
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We don't realize how hard it is How could we? Coming back from everything she endured and experienced in Russia. And she talked about like how hard it was to lose weight. She is lean right now. She is in shape. She's described herself as rejuvenated. And it doesn't just happen the first year back. It takes some time. And like with this new scene set, I'm excited for her and happy for her.
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And let's see what she does.
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Yeah. Yeah, I think a successful reset, of course. Actually, again, this is another team that I'm like, well, it looks like the only way is up. And so much of the issues they had last season was because of health. You can't get continuity. You can't have if you don't have availability. So I'm hopeful we see. the continuance of a healthy Shakira Austin.
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This was a highly touted number three draft pick. I thought she shined at unrivaled. I was there in Miami, the extra space being healthy. She held herself accountable and showcase how, how her size meets her versatility.
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Um, also Aaliyah Edwards, another player that should be getting a lot of confidence out of unrivaled showed us that her skill bag, her bag of skill and tricks is very deep in the one-on-one competition. Um, And as you mentioned, I thought that Sonia Citron and Kiki both had at least one game in preseason where they really shined.
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And they showed that like they understand the game at a high level and have good basketball instincts. And I just want to shout out my vets. Sometimes we forget the vets, Brittany Sykes and Stephanie Dolson. Yeah, you know what you're going to get from them.
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And so when you got a whole lot of new in your franchise, it's nice when you can look over to them and be like, hey, set the tone for the game.
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We will be diving into college hoops and March Madness. And also, we'll be talking about Angel Reese's comments on the WNBA's upcoming CBA negotiations. So we have a packed show. But before we get there, I just want to say, Logan, I speak for you when I say this to our viewers. We love y'all. Yes, so much. So much love for y'all. We love you guys.
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Yeah. What is it that over the course of your career has allowed your confidence to be shaken and even your joy?
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Well, just to piggyback the conversation around Seattle, I mean, you had the opportunity to play behind and learn from Sue Bird. What would you say were the most important things that you still think about to this day that you got from Sue Bird?
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Yeah, I mean, you have an opportunity to see that you don't got to be the loudest, but what you say has to be powerful and meaningful. You have the opportunity here at Unrivaled to learn from another great in Teresa Weatherspoon as your coach. How is Spoon helping you?
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Girl, I'm here to tell you, that's in life. Yes.
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Fight to keep it, right. Exactly. What is your voice? What is your voice?
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Yeah. I think it's a really important talking point, not even just for sports, just about leadership in general. We live in a society where being an extrovert or being the loudest is often like put on a pedestal. And I think there are many ways to lead. I think that's an important message for a lot of people at home listening, for workspaces.
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I mean, you know, that you can be an effective, powerful leader and also do it, you know, in your own way and style. So that really resonated. Thank you.
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it's funny because we're talking about voice and you have this incredible voice off the court you know like you have you have a because you said a voice in basketball in my head i was like well also in music you're a wonderful singer thank you um well what is your voice as a singer then i'm still now that is something i'm still trying to figure out um i have recently been i've always been into music but i think recently i've been more in tune with music as
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There you go. All right, let's get to it.
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I've never heard of a crooner. A crooner? Oh, no. Is that too old? A crooner is like somebody who's like...
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Okay. Well, then what kind of singer are you? Are you singing the blues? Are you somebody who's emo?
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in some ways music can take, you know, push you outside your box.
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Not you being a toxic girlie.
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She's on a vitamin regimen.
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Knowing them. Everybody loves soccer music. One thing that you have done, which I'm always impressed with, is like, you can go on a dime. Can we hear a little snippet from you of one of your songs? You want to hear a snippet?
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Yeah, you sound incredible.
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I just want the background story of this picture that went viral. Oh, gosh. This is at the very end of January, right? You know, Brittany Griner just made her announcement. Y'all are on a boat fishing. Uh-oh. And she said, I'm coming to Atlanta. And don't worry, the fans at home, we will show you this picture. I'm showing my girl in the halls.
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It's cool, because y'all are not even on the same team. That's the Owls, that's the Phantom, that's the Vinyl.
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Oh, the dreamies. You heard it here first. We got all sorts of exclusives in this interview with you. Girl, I could talk with you another 30 minutes if you let me. It was so wonderful. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. It was so great to have you on.
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Welcome back to Good Follow. I'm Roz. She's Logan. And we just heard from Jordan Canada. That was such a great sit down interview with Jordan, who is just so dynamic and so cool to get her to pull a curtain back on her just music career and process. I'm glad she's putting music out. You go girl. Now, Logan, let's transition because you were at the Challenge Cup last week.
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So let's transition to some soccer. The Washington spirit and Orlando pride went head to head. And this was a rematch of the 2024 championship game. And this time it was the spirit who came out on top on over the Orlando pride. And they did this in penalties. These were the top two teams last season. So Logan, you were there based on what you saw Friday. Will that be the case again?
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Yeah, you know, first of all, we're getting heavyweight matchups between UCLA and USC. Some people are hoping that they'll see this matchup a fourth time and maybe they'll both get one seeds in Tampa, perhaps the final four. I would love to see it. Why not? But, you know, I think it was a great response from UCLA getting this win. I think shout out to Lauren Betts. Like, wow.
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You know, she really sets the tone for them defensively. She had four blocks, four steals in the game. Three of those four blocks came in the fourth quarter. And there was a really signature defense. defining moment as Juju Watkins is just trying to find a way to score a bucket, goes to the lane, and she's denied by Lauren Betts. And I just think you set the tone in that way.
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And it's not just defense. Offensively, Lauren was able to be super efficient, 7 for 10 from the field for 17 points. She absolutely was deserving of that most outstanding player. And, you know, good for UCLA, whose defense was just staggering in the second quarter.
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Welcome back to Good Follow. Big thank you to soccer legend Kelly O'Hara for joining us and joining Logan for that great NWSL preview. Now let's transition because this segment is presented by DraftKings. Unrivaled playoffs are beginning on Sunday, and I've got my eyes on that two versus three seed matchup between the Rose and the Laces.
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On the Rose, if you're looking for someone to pack the stat sheet, it's Angel Reese, who's leading Unrivaled in rebounding. Naturally, we expected her to crush the glass, but she's improved so much on the offensive end, finishing, getting in deep, and scoring the rock. She's on constant double-double watch. For the Laces, a player who can also fill the stat sheet is Alyssa Thomas.
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Now, she may not always be your leading scorer, but she's on constant triple-double watch as a player who rebounds, creates for others with assists. She can get you a bucket or a block, and she's definitely the tone setter for the toughness and physicality of the Laces.
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I have the Rose winning and advancing to the finals, and perhaps we might see them against the overall number one seed, Lunar Owls, if they advance over Team Vinyl. Either way, I have a feeling that these unrivaled playoffs are going to finish with a bang. This segment is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. We love doing that. I love it.
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big sigh once again that's not what she said and also look at this tweet it's from centelle look at the e at the end centelle is a troll meme site man but the problem is people are going to go and run with that uh because it's angel reese like they want to see something that's inflammatory and she never said that exactly
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So UCLA, I mean, they were just absolutely suffocating on defense in that second half and thwarted anything that USC was trying to do. And that brings me to USC. They were up by 13 in the third quarter. And Logan, you brought it up. They only hit two field goals in the last 12 minutes of game time. Like in real lifetime, like that's like 30 minutes or even more. That's a long time where...
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Well, you know, this is all part of CBA negotiations and it's right on time. I believe the WNBA players provided a proof of concept last season and now and unrivaled again. And with athletes unlimited attention, ratings, attendance, it's all upped. And the product is great. There's a new crop of identifiable young stars, new rivalries, storylines that people are following.
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The players are captivating. And there's an appetite for investment. You know, we're seeing new WNBA teams. We're seeing alternative leagues. like Athletes Unlimited, like Unrivaled, who are having banner seasons. There's an influx of cash coming from the new TV rights deal. Brand deals are flowing.
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And there's just like investors with cash fist in hand, you know, trying to find ways to invest in women's basketball now. So I think...
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when we discuss the conversation in a reasonable, right-minded way, it's important to note that WNBA players are looking to renegotiate the revenue split and that they aren't asking for NBA salaries, but they are looking to the NBA's model where in their revenue split, it's about 50-50. And perhaps in like years past, Logan, WNBA team owners are,
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may have been carrying the burden of the load, but now I think that scale has slid, and the players are pushing a lot of the momentum that we're seeing. They're behind a lot of that. They're driving it, and they want to make sure that they, like... have an opportunity to not be left out of the momentum and the monetization of that, of the energy that they're creating.
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So I think right now is a great time for them to be discussing like revenue split and equity in the league. And they have every right to.
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you have to step up like and sometimes you got to shake the table it's not just hoping and asking for a seat at it but you know you've got to fight for this and these negotiations and talks aren't easy but they're so necessary and i think it's right on time absolutely um you know speaking of time that's it for our episode today I know, I know, but we want to thank all of you for watching.
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We want to thank Jordan Canada, Kelly O'Hara for joining our show today. We had two greats of basketball and soccer here. Make sure y'all subscribe. If you made it all the way to the end of this show.
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better be subscribing um and then also follow us on socials at good follow um we appreciate you we are building this thing together good follow we're presented by draft kings logan any final thoughts love you yeah we do love you okay bye y'all we'll see you next week welcome to miami
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they can't get something going. And so that's my question for USC. Like, when the offense isn't flowing, when Juju's not going, like, how do you manufacture some kind of production? Because USC didn't get to the free throw line enough, I think. Like, they only got there 13 times. And when you're struggling to score the ball, every possession starts to really count for more.
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Oh my gosh, you go girl, you've got your whole life together. Right?
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And they turned it over 19 times. So they don't even have the ball long enough. And you've got to figure out when you're an elite team, how do you stop the bleeding? And one of those is, you know, not turning it over. I think a healthy film session will help USC right now as they head into March. I mean, again, not a panic moment, but just healthy film session to answer these types of questions.
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Oh, my goodness. They changed their season, girl. Had they lost again to USC? I mean, it completely changes the way they headed to March. But that wasn't the only tournament that crowned a champion. We're going to take a look at the SEC tournament. South Carolina wins.
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Shout out to Dawn Staley, who was a pillar of just excellence and consistency over the course of years and different rosters and classes. But they took down Texas. They won by 20 to win the SEC tournament. So, Logan,
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It was South Carolina who makes that happen. They're known for defense.
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Okay. Logan, you called that. I did.
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You know, Kara Lawson, I've had the pleasure of getting to know her. She's excellent. She was excellent as a player, excellent as a broadcaster. And now moving into greatness as a coach, this is a huge pillar for her program. And Duke came in, they were at the bottom, coached them through a pandemic. And in five years, now has them back at the top of the ACC at winning the tournament.
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And to your point, Logan, this was a really tough path. They had to go through Notre Dame. They had to go through NC State. And her team is young and hungry and they're defensive. They've got a strong identity. And that defensive identity, like it was more than they just squeaked through and upset them. They held Notre Dame 28 points below their scoring average.
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We're about to have our reunion again in Miami. We're heading to Miami for the unrivaled playoffs and the Miami Open. Some tennis. Is that the right way? So I can't wait to see you in person. But before we even get to our next in-person show for Good Follow Show, we got to take you through today's. Today, we got a big one.
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They held NC State 15 points below their scoring average. So, I mean, this is a team that heads into the tournament with a lot of momentum, a a really good, strong sense of self and their formula to success and kudos to them.
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You know, look, Notre Dame, they're still those girls, you know, but I am concerned for them because they are limping into March. Their last two losses, Coach Neal Ivey has had to talk with the team for an hour post-game. This is what's standing out to me. It's not even just the losses.
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It's the fact that Coach Ivy, there's reports from media that they've had to wait for the team to leave the locker room post-game, these losses, over an hour. That's a lot of talking, you know? And on one hand, I understand that Neal Ivy is trying to just impress urgency on her team so that they don't miss the moment that's right here for them.
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But on the other hand, I feel like it's March, you know? And this isn't a team that needs to be talked into some kind of miracle. Like, they have every single thing they need to be a championship team. And ultimately, I think that the talk and the rally has to come from the Notre Dame players and the team themselves.
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You can't just be a team that's beating your chest and talking big and all this and that when things are going well. You don't want to be a frontrunner. Like, you are being challenged right now. This is real adversity, and you're heading into a one-and-done scenario. So y'all got to double down on who you are. And I think that's what they got away from, their identity as a team that's defensive,
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High energy, confident, has defense that creates offense and they can create high tempo, up tempo, pace, energetic situations where they can really just showcase their toughness. So they've got to dig right now.
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Stephen Curry is unrivaled. Every time I see these announcements, I feel like it's like, so-and-so is unrivaled. But this is a big one. This is like a nod at the end of the season where it's like people got to view the unrivaled season, see what it was, and then was like, Yeah.
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I need to tap. Exactly. And, you know, a shout out to Stephen Curry because he's been investing in the woman's game. And this is just continues the path that he's on.
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You know, I think that the two teams that have the best chance of taking down the Owls might be the Rose and the Laces. And the Rose have been trending up to end the season. They go as Chelsea Gray goes. One of the most beautiful things I saw on Unrivaled is just that Chelsea's healthy. She's rejuvenated. She's playing with joy. And, you know, she's taking her teammates with her.
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We got an exclusive sit-down interview with two-time WNBA champion Jordan Canada joins us. Not only is Jordan a baller, but she completely takes us through her process as a singer and a musician and sneak peek some music with us. We also hear from Kelly O'Hara, who joins the show to preview the NWSL season. Y'all, it is the unrivaled playoffs. We will be talking about that.
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Angel Reese is so competitive. She's crushing the glass, but she's absolutely been improved on the offensive end in Unrivaled. But why I also think the Rose have a really great chance, their entire team is trending upwards. Role players like Brittany Sykes and Lexi Hull play with such motor. They play so hard, especially on the defensive end.
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The Rose are a great defensive team and their defense can get them out in offense for fast break opportunities. They're a low scoring team. So, you know, they want to beat the defense down the court and get some easier shots. So I feel like that's the case for the Rose.
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The Laces, I've been calling the most dangerous team in Unrivaled because they're now healthy on time, and they just got a bunch of veteran dogs who can score the ball and defend the ball. And one of the reasons they've been so hot to finish the season and have gotten into playoffs is because Jackie Young is healthy and playing at a really high level.
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Let's take a look at some of Jackie Young's highlights. You know, first of all, Jackie...
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gets to the rim she is so strong she has a real passion for the weight room and that devotion translates to the court um she's very deliberate and methodical out there on the court you know like she's uh smooth and unrushed she can really stroke the ball well from three and then if you come flying out on her she'll put the ball down not get too deep step into her
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her jump shot she's got a great shooting touch um rarely off balance you know she's just confident and and just one of the many scoring options on this team because there's Kayla McBride McBuckets there's Tiffany Hayes you know Dolson uh could come in there and make impact and obviously Alyssa Thomas does a bit of everything so look out for the laces um
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I mean, look out for the whole playoffs, man. The thing about the playoffs, it's one game. It's one game. This ain't a three game or five game series. You got to win two games to get to the chip. So these are some of the top players in the world. Any one of these teams can win two games and win a chip.
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Maybe she's on a vitamin regimen, too.
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Hey, what's up, Goodfollow? We are coming to you from Miami at the Unrivaled campus. As you know, I'm your girl, Roz Goldonbude. And today we have a delightful guest. I'm going to do some accolades because she's a two-time WNBA champion. She will be seen with the Atlanta Dream. And here at Unrivaled, she's part of Team Vinyl. Don't play with her. She will lock you up.
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This is a two-time all-first team defensive selection, two-time steals leader in the WNBA. When she was at UCLA, she was the Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year. You don't play about defense. I don't play about deed. I get down. Jordan Canada joins the show. What's up, Jordan? What's up? Thank you for having me. I'm so happy to have you. Thank you. You've been having aura, girl.
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You've been hooping. Thank you. I'm trying. You've really been finishing Unrivaled strong here. And, you know, we've met before and spoken. Coach Teresa Weatherspoon said she told you as you go, Team Vinyl will go. Like, how much do you feel like your game has expanded and grown here at Unrivaled?
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It's nice that we have a moment to relax now that the college season is over. And I mean, how amazing has Tampa been? It's been such beautiful weather.
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Because he had his 24th Final Four. Yes. But you didn't see 23 of those. Or was it straight?
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I remember the game, the championship game. It was my freshman year.
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Yes. I was at the Tampa Final Four here. And, you know, it was it was good for Candace Parker to get that championship.
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You want to see the difference of maybe like the type of player we were? Right. Right. I actually don't remember anything about the game against Tennessee. But what I do remember is all the stuff around it. Yeah, see, you were opposite. I was opposite. Candice was focused on the games. And I remember the Tampa Final Four. All the teams came in on yachts. They had us all come in on boats.
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And then each team, I think, had a boat. And we came off the water in the boats after sailing. And he came off a red carpet and then went in to party. Yes.
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Yes. And that was a nice time. We both came from the court. And when UConn was given their trophy, they brought all of their alum on. and all of their former champions. And it was kind of cool to see the level of greatness. We're talking about Hall of Famers, Olympians, but also people across generations, people that you went through or they went through you.
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And one of the coolest things happened to me Maya Moore walks by, and she's like, Roz. And I'm like, love you. And I was like, dang, one of those championships you got went through us. And she was like, you know, you also stopped us from one. And so I was like, you know, these competitors, they don't forget anything. They don't forget anything. I also got a picture with Diana Taurasi. Did you?
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Yes. Me too. I did. And you know, we've interviewed everybody.
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So, I mean, hey, we have a new champion. The NCAA season is crowned and UConn wins the championship, the 12th overall, you know, for the program. What do you make of the championship game? What did you think? Man.
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I was like, oh my God, that's Ross. First of all, I'm mad old school. I still use my notepad. And then I kind of have to time it up. It's almost like double-dutch. I'm watching her walking off the court and I know I've got to speak to her coming off the court and then the other coach coming out onto the court. So I'm like, one, two, there she goes. Dawn, what's your message to the team?
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Yeah, yeah, there was a lot of dominance. And I, too, feel like it was reminiscent of the way those other teams in the past was dominant. I'll point out, though, like, this UConn team has been right here, though. Yeah, they've been right there. And, you know, clearly 24 Final Fours, and this is their back-to-back one. But last season's team, you know, Geno had that squad with, like,
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a handful of healthy players scrapped their way to the final four. I think health has paid, played a big part in like their lack of a championship as of late. And what I saw in this team, for me, they're healthy. For me with UConn, it's always a fitness issue. It's a condition. Like they're just, they wear on you. Yeah. Like against UCLA in the, in the,
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first game of the Final Four, I felt like UCLA looked a little fatigued. Yes. And UConn just kept coming at them, coming at them. And then even here, they just kept coming in waves. The high level of execution on offense, all the back cuts against the pressure. Yeah. All the back doors. Yeah. And on defense, I thought they were good too.
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But it was really cool. But beyond that, we're also celebrating today, Logan. Yay. We're celebrating. We hit 1,000 subscribers. Actually, it's such a big deal for us. It's not just one bell. It's two bells. It's three bells. We are so grateful. We are so excited to reach 1,000 subscribers on YouTube, that is. You know, we relaunched this at the start of the new year.
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Sarah between the points, I think 24 points, I think 15 rebounds between the blocks and the defense. She anchored everything that thwarted South Carolina. I think there were a number of candidates, but for me, Sarah Strong was the most outstanding player for me of the final four.
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What a luxury for you, Conrad. All these players stepped up so big. And it's funny because, you know, I interviewed postgame Sarah Strong. And she barely smiled. Like, she's just got a certain... She's locked in. She's locked in.
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Her mom is a little bit on, like, the... A little more serious. She'll... I mean, when you know her, you keep it with her.
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her mother in her stoicness. I wonder if she's silly on the side or something. Right, yeah, like behind the scenes.
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correspond with allison booster like y'all need to get on google if you don't know who this woman is like the historic yeah it's 16 seed beating a one seed in the tournament harvard beats stanford why is stanford sorry this is a bad episode for stanford episode for stanford hey we got a lot of greatness coming through but um and then to another point you had i interviewed gino post game i
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And after the championship, and I asked him what this 12th championship meant and the fact that it took nine years to get there, what it meant to the program and to the team and to him. And he heard, he basically alluded to, he heard all that talk. Oh. You know, Gino's a, you know, he got, you know, strong, like, um... He believes in the program and the work he's put in. Yeah.
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And so he heard that and he said, look, if we want parity in the game, we can't be upset when it's hard to get here.
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But I actually think that's a great point because as we do all this legacy talk, you know, oh, how many championships does this player have? And Paige Beckers is now going to have one. Where does she stand with the greats of UConn who have four or three or two?
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I think it's hard to have that conversation because I remember playing in the years of 2010 where our first challenge wasn't until the Final Four, where teams were going undefeated through the season and winning by 30. You know what I mean? So it's like, how can you come? It's just everything. Both are excellent.
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But there's so much more parity now that to get that one chip is so much harder, I think. I agree.
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So how do we reflect on the full body of work now for our girl Paige Beckers, who has her storybook, you know, ending with the championship after all the injuries, not only injuries, she went through a pandemic, like her team was injured, and to come through with her resilience and heart.
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Yeah. And I'm going to remember her not only as a great player, but the more I found out about Paige, the more I understand how wonderful of a human being and a teammate she is. Yes. And also her heart and resilience beyond the points and the buckets like that's what stands out to me about Paige Beckers.
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And, you know, it's a nice transition, too, because that's what stands out to me about you, LaChina.
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I'm talking about the quality of character, of heart, of being a great teammate, of helping bring others along. And I mean... You've even been here as a symbol of, like, your love for me. You're my big sis, but everybody's big sis. We all could sit and rave about you. You're also my friend. Yes.
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And, you know, I want to just highlight the incredible work you're doing with Rising Media Stars, the mentorship organization that you founded that now has literally put stars in seats on the biggest networks. It's for young journalists who want to become broadcasters. Why was it important for you to have a life of mentorship and have this be your passion?
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Yeah. And I mean, you've connected me with a number of broadcasters and, hey, I need you to meet this young lady who's with the Bucks and Zora Stevenson. She's doing the Olympics now. And there's been a few of those. But for me, you've been a sis, a mentor, a friend for me. And, you know, I guess I'll kind of get you out on this one. You know, I come to you.
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All right, let's get to the show. In today's show, we've got a great one for you. We're talking about what the future looks like for newly crowned UConn, the new champions of college basketball after they won their 12th championship. We're going to be looking to the future for South Carolina and other contenders coming up for next college season.
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I have so few people to actually talk about when things are down. I have so many people in my life and my family that are depending on me. And it's hard to share openly without worrying them. So when I've ever had an insecurity or a disappointment, oftentimes you've been there for the conversation. And part of being a broadcaster is...
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I think you walk the walk and you talk the talk. I thank you for how you show up. And I just appreciate you so much. Yes. You're an example I give often that you can be successful in this business, be talented, but you can be a great person. And that will take you far. So Latina, thank you so much for joining you.
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I know, I believe you. I'm here for you too.
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Then we're going to take a look at the WNBA draft, which is around the corner. We're going to reveal our top five WNBA draft picks and maybe some surprises that we'll try to predict. We also have an exclusive interview with ESPN analyst and host LaChyna Robinson. It was taped in Tampa immediately after the national championship game.
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Welcome back to Good Follow, presented by DraftKings. I'm Roz. She's Logan. And thank you so much to LaChina Robinson again for joining our show, ESPN analyst. But beyond that, incredible friend and mentor to so many. It was really great to catch up and kiki with her and all the things. But okay, y'all. The WNBA draft is here. So Logan and I are revealing our top five draft picks.
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Logan, let's see who we both have in the number one spot. Let's do it. Oh, my goodness.
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Yeah, Paige Beckers is an efficient scorer from all ranges, from three and especially with her mid-range pull-up jump shot. She's going to provide spacing, you know, anytime she's on the court. I also think she's going to eat off of the spacing that's provided by the gravity that's going to come to Arike Ogumbawale. Like, that penetrate kick out is going to be crazy.
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Hey, what's up, y'all? Welcome to Good Follow, presented by DraftKings. I'm Roz, Golden Woody, and that's my co-host. That's my girl. That's Logan Hackett. What's up, Logan? How you doing?
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And they could be a nice one-two punch offensively together. Another thing that I'll point out, Paige is a great teammate. We saw the stories that came out about her waking up early to cook, you know, breakfast for her teammate, Jen Al-Afi, coming out of Ramadan. She's a great human. And I just think her personality, even her, like,
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ease of nature her silliness i think that'll be really healthy for the team in dallas that's going through a lot of transition right now and sometimes you need that kind of personality um and logan here's the most important thing well i'm just joking but
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So it's very much giving all of the insider info, vibes, stories, tea from the scene at the final four. We've got a full show, Logan, so let's get to it.
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I'm so ready for the pregame walk-in for Dallas because between Paige, Arike, and Dejanay, and then the rest of the team, like that's going to be a very swaggy team. That walk-in is going to be crazy. Real quick, who do you see playing the one and who do you see playing the two? I think you can, you know, transition that.
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Whoever gets the ball can bring it up because everybody can play with pace, everybody can share it, and everybody's a bucket.
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Yeah, I mean, a lot of people have her at number two. She easily could, right? But I actually went with Kiki because, you know, Seattle already has Nneka Ogwumike and Ezzie Magbogor, but I think that Kiki's versatility could help her fill in spots and gaps and spurts here. You know, she's got great defensive potential. She's got...
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know mobility she's able to shoot the ball you know in little short ranges and stuff and i think that'll complement those established stars i thought she finished her season at usc better than she started it and i actually remember the kiki of the breakout year at stanford university and that's where i really saw some of her potential so i think there's more here an upside for kiki and perhaps she gets picked up at number two
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Yeah, yeah, no, Washington has a lot of new from the executive staff to the team and down. So I think at number three here with Dominique Malunga, who could easily go number two, as we said, this is a 6'6 prospect who can dunk, who defensively, because of her length, automatically has an opportunity to rim protect. She can stretch the court. She will shoot the three.
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And I potentially like her as someone who could perhaps move a healthy Shakira Austin out in space and let Shak of her versatility, all h things she showed during that she could do. And aga healthy is a problem. So and having a new personat size could be a big part
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yeah yeah you nailed that with anisa morrow potentially being picked up by the valkyries at number five she's a double double machine she's undersized but she is a worker right so i think what what you heard from natalina kase is like this first season for the valkyries is going to be about developing culture and i think to your point logan morrow fit
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fits that a culture of being hard workers a culture of being a hustler and don't forget you know she also can stretch the court so that's always very useful uh coming back up though moving up back up to four with washington i think they might use this to get a big and then to get a wing right and sonia citron has all the things that modern basketball loves she's six one she's got good size she shoots 37 from three um so she's a shooter she can stretch the court
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And she's developed into one of the best defenders in college basketball. So size three and D, those are the ingredients for the recipe for a nice role player in the WNBA.
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Yeah, okay. I'm going to point out a name, a household name in Haley Van Lith. I think she might surprise us in that she might get drafted higher than some of these mock draft boards have for her. Because of just how well she finished the March Madness and NCAA tournament, I think she was able to establish herself as a winner, as a bucket, highly skilled. I think she increased her draft stock.
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And I think the upside and potential of that may, for some draft boardrooms, outweigh the fact that, hey, against Texas, she did look small. She had a hard time seeing over their defense. The upside might outweigh that. And I also think, hey, it doesn't hurt her marketability. you know, putting someone in that households know and may put butts in seats.
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So I think for Haley Van Lith, we may see her get drafted higher than some people have predicted.
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I think, listen, they continue to write the standard and create it, and I'm really excited for Season 2 for them.
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One that stands out to me, I remember when Skylar Diggins-Smith did this issue. I think she had a great finish to the March Madness in the tournament. And here she is, you know, having an opportunity to capitalize on that and continue to storytell and brand build.
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Besties were shining, and I just, I can't get enough of this clip, like this meme. The two of them are having a healthy kiki. Like, anyone that has a homegirl, like, that you really, really, that you really rock with, you know when you gotta, like, stomp your feet and shake. That is such, I relate, that's a very relatable laugh.
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I wonder what they're talking about, but it's like, both of y'all are having a moment where you're like,
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girl it's like a serotonin moment too like the feeling you get after you're like oh my gosh yay i love her so much yeah they're so cute and i love the way they show up for one another and just support one another at each other's events and milestones and um also congratulations to alicia at least just secured a ring um she's get she's just got engaged so we're really happy for her
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You know, I actually think it could be the continuance of dominance coming out of this championship for UConn. And they may not feel the loss of Paige Beckers, who was an incredible talent, but I still think UConn can be great even after now she graduates. Because when fully healthy, UConn was head and shoulders better than the competition. They gassed UCLA and South Carolina.
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And so for me, the point that I make doesn't even need stats to be proven. It's more about qualities and characteristics and culture of the program. I'll point to the pace of play that UConn plays with. I'll point to the execution of cuts of passes in their offense, the backdoor passes, the beauty of it.
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against tough defenses and then on the other side uconn's not just an offensive team they were tough on defense and they were able to create defense um offense off of that defense this is a team that's incredibly unselfish sacrificing roles for one another and one thing that really stands out about uconn over the course of decades is their conditioning level
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they have a fitness x-factor and even when i was playing at stanford against yukon teams of old they always were so well conditioned that over the course of the game they would just wear on you and then suddenly they'd be pulling away because fatigue said and it's harder and harder to execute so For these qualities, I'm less worried about Paige Becker's graduating.
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As great as she is, Gino's a brilliant coach. The offense will further just kind of focus in on working around Sarah Strong, who, Logan, Sarah Strong as a freshman had a great case for the most outstanding player of the Final Four. you know, and easily could have won that if it didn't go to AZ Fudd, who was also great, who next season will now have two, a second year of being healthy.
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That's just like another step forward physically and mentally for what she'll be able to do on the court. And then all those role players will be looking for expanded roles. Your KK Arnold, your Ashlyn Shades, your Ice Bradys, your Janas, you know, and a transfer portal might get a win or two for UConn. So I expect them to be very strong next season as long as they're able to stay healthy.
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Oh, you flourish in the madness, huh? Yeah, I love it. Yeah, I was in Tampa girl. It was so beautiful out there. I love warm weather, so the weather was amazing. It was a hot the hot spot for women's basketball like everyone was there. This is a place to see and be seen to be networking. WNBA players, coaches, executives, media members. Like it was all there in one place.
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Oh, Dawn. Dawn had a wrinkle up her sleeve. A birdie flew into the nest for South Carolina Gamecocks. This is a game changer. This is huge. Taniya Ladson coming to South Carolina. You mentioned her 25 points per game. It's also about four and a half rebounds, four and a half assists per game. But more importantly, here is a player who was able to create her own shot off of the bounce.
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to the rim for the pull-up jumper against tough defenses in tight, tough situations. South Carolina now has a go-to score that is veteran that they can lean on and go to. And for the most part,
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part they were offense by committee everybody chipping in each game in the tournament it was like someone else would step up well this is a go-to score South Carolina needed this influx of offense it will absolutely help their identity of being a tough defense this is a game changer for South Carolina
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You know, I was really impressed with Joyce Edwards, you know, as a freshman stepping up so big in the final four, especially she was kind of having a slump for a couple of games there. So to find what it took to fight her way out of it, I had the chance to get to know her and speak with her during the final four during my reporting.
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And this is a player who had the mental toughness, who was, you know, working with coaching staff, willing to put the work in to break through. And she did. She's got size. She's got mobility. She's got the ability to attack the rim. I expect her to further build on this experience next season. Mylasia Fulwiley, she is also somebody who can score the ball. She is also a bucket.
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And next season, she's going to likely step into a new role. This season, she was off the bench, someone who came in and immediately changed the game with her pace and style of play. There's a good chance she's likely to be a starter next season. And so there's a difference there. When you're coming off the bench, you have more freedom to be wild maybe in some ways.
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But as a starter, often coaches want to see you be a bit more deliberate because you've got to set the style of play for your team. You've got to engage your teammates. You've got to run sets. So that'll be a healthy challenge for her next season. To your point, they're gonna miss Tahina Pau-Pau, not only for her leadership, but her three-point shooting.
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Her three-point shots were like daggers for South Carolina. So even with Tenaya Latson coming in, I wonder, like, where does spacing continue to come from for South Carolina? Ashlyn Watson? How does she come back from injury? If she's able to be fully healthy in her full self, that's huge for South Carolina. And it was a huge loss not having her.
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Obviously, Chloe Kitts, I thought she finished the season really strong for South Carolina, continue to build on that. But here's like this overarching storyline that the Gamecocks get to have coming into next season. Pain is a great teacher and so is embarrassment. And that's what they felt. They felt that against UConn.
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And now that can be bundled up and used as fuel in this off season and perhaps a chip going into next year.
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What a shoulda, coulda, who knows now? They have next year to show it.
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It was, you know, really exciting within the women's basketball community. I was there doing the national radio game broadcast for the games at the Final Four. So I had a lot of like really cool opportunities to spend a lot of one-on-one time with the teams and the coaches and the players. I got to really, you know,
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Well, I'm going to point out UCLA. You know, first of all, I think experience really showed itself in the Final Four, and that experience mattered. Like, you know, UCLA now has seen what it takes. They've seen the different level, what the Final Four looks like, what the conditioning level looks like to be at that level. I think for Lauren Betts and Kiki Rice, they come back even more improved.
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They're going to anchor this team. Sienna Betts, little sis to Lauren, she's going to join influx of height, influx of talent. You know, she was the MVP of the McDonald's All-American game. And not to mention, they bring back a lot of talent that played key roles in their run. Your Gardeners, your Jaquez, they all come back.
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And so I think with that experience, I think UCLA will be a really big team to watch. Any team that Olivia Miles was going to go to was going to suddenly become a contender, right? If they weren't already. So TCU, you're back. You're back, baby. You got Olivia Miles. And I think, you know, for her, she might have looked at how well things went for Haley Van Lith there.
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And Mark Campbell, the coach, has built a reputation now of developing great point guards. When he was at Oregon with Kelly Graves, he was instrumental in developing Sabrina Ionescu. So for Olivia Miles, that might end up being a nice fit there. And Mark Campbell in TCU also brought in size with the Kentucky transfer, Clara Silver.
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She's 6'7", and that can help fill the gap also that's being left with Sedona Prince leaving the program. So I think TCU you can keep an eye on. And shout out to Duke, okay, and Kara Lawson, who were great to finish the season. Maybe some people might have caught some people by surprise. They had an incredible run. They bring back most all of the team, and they get to double down on that.
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So keep an eye out for Duke.
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You know, this is a highly impactful recruiting class. You know, they're obviously very talented, but I also think about what they're going to be for off the court. They come during a time where there's unprecedented attention on women's basketball and the way we're covering it, the way we're investing in it, the way players are handling it.
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And so I think if you remember back when there was the three to see with like Elena Della Dawn, Skylar Diggins-Smith, Brittany Griner, like they're going to have similar impact, if not more, in how they shape the future of women's basketball. And even on the court, you know, this is generational rebounders, passers, scorers, shot blockers.
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I just wonder who's going to win a championship first of this group on the WNBA side. And then, you know, from there we'll be counting their greatness based off of championships, gold medals. But, you know, the future will only show.
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see in the minds of Gino and Dawn and what gets them going and how they're strategizing. Spent a lot of time with UConn and South Carolina, obviously. And then with the players, just getting to know the personality of these teams and getting to know the players. So for me, I really cherish the opportunity in Tampa to interview, to talk with all of them.
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What's up, Good Follow? This is Roz coming to you live from Tampa. The Women's Tournament just wrapped up. UConn was crowned champion, and right now it is a glorious day in Tampa. I'm sitting by the water right now, and, you know, the sun is starting to set, and I'm about to sit down with a great guest. She is a WNBA host and analyst for ESPN.
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She is the founder of Rising Media Stars Mentorship Group. She's my big sis. She's my friend. It's LaChyna Robinson. We're going to sit down and enjoy just some food, catch up, and talk some whoops. LaChina is here. Hey, Chef. Hey, Roz. Thank you for pulling up and joining me here. Anything for you.
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Okay?
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And... You know, anybody who watches our show at Good Follow, you know one of the words that I've been holding on to in 2025 has been the word soft. Okay. What is a word or a phrase, something that you would hold on to as an intention for the rest of, you got unrivaled season, you got WNBA season.
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Why?
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But maybe it's even crazier that the very next play she comes down and hits a trail three pointer and the whole place went crazy. Like the dunk was like, ah, but then to come back and double down and hit the three, it was like people were standing up and yelling and it was such a time. I had a cute little night, girl. Are you coming out here?
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You're in an interesting spot, too, because you are a productive veteran, especially when you're healthy. And obviously you want to be a part of a team that contends, but you're in a tough situation with Washington where it was a rough year last season for injuries for all the reasons. There's a whole lot of new right now.
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With the Mystics. So what are you most excited about?
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Speaking of other players, the cool thing about Unrivaled, you're on Team Rose, you get to kind of mix in with players who normally are sometimes your opponents. Yes. You might have seen them around at different stops and stints in your career, but who are some of the players on Team Rose that you've really enjoyed either having the opportunity to spend more time with? Yeah.
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i will be very soon and i'm so excited and i cannot wait to go to unravel because everything that you've said and then everything like you're seeing online in the fan perspective yeah it just it's something that you cannot miss totally and we'll also get you a chance to pick out your jersey um but um we've got so much to talk about in today's show so for all the viewers at home this is what you've got coming today first of all we've got
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What's interesting, though, is you guys are both making names around the defensive end of the ball.
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I mean, obviously, you are, you know, already... as one of the great defenders in the W. She's an up-and-coming player.
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You know, in Indy, they were calling her Hull Island. Did you hear that?
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She's putting people on island.
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With her being younger and stuff, like, what would you express to her it takes to really be an elite defender at the pro level here?
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Yeah, yeah. What?
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Who's the toughest wing here to defend?
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Yes.
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good follow presented by draftkings i'm roz gold on woody and that's my girl logan hackett logan how are you great to see you i'm good how are you girl i had the cutest day yesterday monday night in miami at unrivaled it was my first time going to unrivaled and not working like the game broadcast was my first time pulling up as a fan It was so fun. Actually, I got lucky.
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Yeah, because you got to think. She's been doing this all this last season.
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an exclusive sit-down, one-on-one interview with WNBA vet of the Mystics, of the Rose, Slim, our girl Slim, Brittany Sykes, joins the show today for an exclusive sit-down interview. I'll be talking with her. Then we've gotta talk unrivaled playoffs.
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So the biggest difference five-on-five versus this three-on-three format is like sometimes five-on-five you can shine in a system. You might be able to hide certain weaknesses.
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Yeah.
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Talk about it because I feel like for a few years now you've been yelling at people. I'm a bucket too.
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um athletes unlimited crowned a champion we'll be talking about that college hoops conference championships oh my god march madness is here uh oh my gosh the caitlyn clark effect it is continuing she is putting butts in seats all the things and of course the nwsl has revealed some kits we'll take a look at those so we've got an awesome show for everyone logan um remind the people when do we drop every wednesday at 7 p.m eastern time
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Yeah.
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Do you have any tools that are helping you? Like do you journal?
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That's been one of the craziest things for me at Unrivaled here. These are the best in the world or the most up and coming or some of the like, you know, well-known vets of the league and of basketball. And so many players are talking about regaining joy, confidence. Like, I'm like, you?
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Yeah. Yeah. Which is, again, brings us full circle to staying right here.
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And grateful for this moment.
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As we wrap this up, I have a question that I feel all the fans are wondering. Okay. Why is it so tough? Like, why are the lunar owls so tough? What is it about these hootie-hooties? And are y'all tired of them hootie-hooing everywhere?
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What does that even mean?
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All right. I think we did all the business up top. You ready to get into the show?
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Well, you always strap up. You always show up. I appreciate you showing up for us here at Good Follow for me.
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But thank you so much for joining us.
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Welcome back to Good Follows Show presented by DraftKings. I'm Roz. She's Logan. And we just had a really awesome conversation with Slim, Brittany Sykes. She and the Rose are crushing it over at Unrivaled. So good to just really get to know her and like chop it up with her. I really enjoy that conversation personally. And, you know, now we move from there to some college hoops.
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Yeah. USC has incredible momentum heading into March Madness. They've won seven in a row now, including some really important top 25 wins, a nice win over Ohio State, two huge wins over UCLA. That second one at at Pauley Pavilion, at the Bruins, that was one of them loud type of statement wins. It was dominant. And it really, they put their flag on LA.
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And I think that USC had to do that first before they can put their eyes on, like the Big Ten tournament and the NCAA big dance. They now are Big Ten champs. They are accomplishing things. You need some tangible wins, feathers in your cap as you take this walk along the way into March Madness. And they have those that they can hang on to, signature moments.
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And I also think Juju Watkins made a huge statement. That first game, the 38 points and the eight blocks, it was super loud. So we figured when you go to UCLA, they were going to be locked in and kind of quiet her. And instead, Juju seems to be shining at her best, playing at her highest level when the lights are brightest and when the challenge is really big and the odds may even be against her.
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And it's not just the points she put in. What's impressive to me is that she completely can dominate a game on offense and defense and throughout the stat line. And, you know, earlier in the show, Logan, we were talking about like, could there be another player who captivates in the way that Caitlin Clark did? I think we're on track for that.
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Like I think team success and individual success as you march through conference tournament into March madness. And as the magnifying glass gets bigger and casuals are starting to watch and you If Juju can continue on this track, I think we could see Juju mania this season. I think we could, we haven't seen it yet.
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We have seen nice respectful commentary about a very nice college player who's doing well at the end of the season. And she's been up and down throughout the season at times. But if Juju continues to capture whatever she's got and put it in a bottle and take this through March into a deep run in the tournament, I guarantee Juju mania like at the highest level
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begins at a level that I mean, she's already got like billboards on buildings in the streets. So that's pretty impressive for a sophomore. But like, I'm talking like, she could be with what we saw from Caitlin, I think.
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Yeah, it's an important call out. You're not going to go far if you're not going to have team success. It will not just be the juju show to take them far in the Big Ten or in the NCAA tournament.
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It's anticlimactic. It's whack. Throw some tomatoes at it. However, the regular season conference championship is only about record. So if the record is tied, then you are tied for that. Now where there is only one champion is in the conference tournament. So that's where you've got to set your sights. But as far as a coin flip, no, that's not exciting, but that is the way it worked out.
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And so now it's the job of those coaches and for the vets in the locker room to reframe the scenario. Not that they got lucky that South Carolina
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a coin flip decided that they were the one seed no both of those teams sc texas they both had a win in order to be win their last game in order to be in that situation so they did in some ways take control of their destiny and now here they are new mindset opportunity to also be positioning yourself for an overall one seed and i kind of have a prediction that it's going to come down to texas and south carolina in that final which would be
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think before we, the first player we got a shout out is Maddie Segrist, right? She's the, she is the champion. And for those who are confused by that, like what's happening at Athletes Unlimited, they have a very unique way of scoring. So they don't crown a team champion. They crown an individual champion.
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And every single player is being scored throughout the season and every individual moment on the court. every play, every quarter, every rebound, shot, it all has points assigned to it, which means that every moment matters. And the player with the most points is crowned champion. So Maddie Segrist wins the championship, congrats to her. She's gonna be in her third year heading to the WNBA.
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And I think for her, this is a really nice confidence boost, momentum boost. As she heads back to Dallas, she spent a lot of last season injured, had a finger injury. And now with Satu Sabli not coming back in Dallas, there's going to be opportunity for players to step up. So for a young player, Athletes Unlimited was really valuable for Maddie Segrist.
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Odyssey Sims came in second, as you mentioned, Logan. Odyssey last season in the W was splitting time between Dallas and LA, and that is so hard to just pop into a team and be productive, which she still did.
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So now she has an opportunity to come in off of another strong AU season, start from the beginning with LA, and I think she could be a part of a formidable backcourt and a great support to what Kelsey Plum's gonna bring to LA. And then to your point, Crystal Bradford, I love, when I went to Athletes Unlimited, I too was captivated. I was like, who is this fun, loud, amazing athletic player?
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And I mean, we know Crystal, she's been in and out of the W. She's had some nice moments. A lot of her career has really been overseas and she's had a very productive career there. And through AU, she's earned a training camp opportunity with the Las Vegas Aces. And guess what? The Aces need everything that Crystal brings, which is defense and rebounding and energy.
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Don't forget, the Aces lose Sydney Colson. So another thing that Crystal Bradford brings that I enjoyed meeting her at AAU and I got to speak with her She's got great vibes. She's funny. She has humor. She's got positive, big energy. You know, all the stuff that fills a locker room with the juice that you need. So I think she's got a great opportunity coming up in the W season.
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And what you just see from Athletes Unlimited is it really provides much like Unrivaled is doing not only competitive play, but a chance to get better, develop your game and have better opportunities in the W season. And shout out to Athletes Unlimited because they had a record attendance season in Tennessee. They engaged the community. Social media is popping.
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Yes, I do think Caitlin Clark is going to meet the moment. And I think Caitlin Clark mania and fever or Clarkonomics, whatever it is they're calling it, I think it only gets bigger and better. I mean, health-willing, of course. But I think part of it is there'll be less resistance this season.
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Like the awareness, the growth is there for the league. They've done a tremendous job and really just want to congratulate AU for an incredible fourth season.
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Love. to see it but logan logan logan let's also talk some soccer the nwsl and nike have unveiled their new kits for the 2025 season and we all couldn't wait to see what they would come up with in the creativity in the jerseys to highlight a few angel city fc has an all-over toil pattern featuring beloved la landmarks and symbols uh the casey currents
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Teal Town Kit features a map view of Kansas City and the Missouri River. Oh, that's our girl Tamwa! Okay, the Orlando Pride has the Decennial Kit, which celebrates their 10th season and features a gold star representing them as the reigning champion. So as you can see, there's so many deep storylines and Easter eggs throughout the jerseys. Which team nailed the look?
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Welcome back to Good Follow. This segment is presented by DraftKings. And this week, I am looking at a spicy matchup in Unrivaled Play happening Friday. It is going to be Team Rose against the Lunar Owls. They're running this thing back. The Owls have been dominant all year. They clinched the number one overall seed in the playoffs. But if there's one team that can shake them up, it's the Rose.
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And I think that's just because naturally as the seasons go on, the body of work begins to build itself up. And what comes with that is respect. And hopefully... This season, I hope that the conversation moves and the focus moves away from everything that isn't ball. You know, there was so much conversation about gratitude for Caitlyn or race and, you know, tension in America, all this and that.
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The Rose are the only team to hand the Owls a loss this season. And of course, we know the Rose let everyone hear it. The trash talk was on a million and so fun. I can't wait to see it happen again. So will history repeat itself? I don't think so. The Owls will be locked in, but the two key players will be the Rose's Chelsea Gray and the Owl's Skylar Diggins-Smith.
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This is a must-see point guard matchup. I'll tell you why. The point guard, Chelsea Gray, is a floor general with unmatched vision and clutch shot-making ability. She's playing out of her mind. She's coming off of a 26 point, seven assists, five rebound, four steal, one block game, and the game winner. And the game before that, 38 points. She's hot, hot, hot.
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Skylar Diggins-Smith is a dynamic scorer and relentless playmaker, and she's super clutch too. Her last game, she had a near triple-double and dropped 25 points, 11 assists, seven rebounds, three steals, and the game winner. And guess what? Sky and Chelsea are both tied with five game-winning shots in unrivaled play. I expect high energy, physical play, a whole lot of chirping and talking.
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Families will be fed, y'all. I will be sat. Logan will be sat. This game is a must watch. Logan. This segment is presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Can you see I'm so excited for this matchup?
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Okay, wait, wait, wait. But we still have more to the show, girl. So we can move from this into like key headlines and notes and all the things we didn't get to. Take me through it.
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Yeah. And like I said, all eyes are going to be on you when you get that kind of money and then the injury happens. That's unfortunate.
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And also if you see her wearing that that tempo sweater, that's play a society as well. So I mean, the merch game is happening. We love to see it. The girls are moguls. The girls are moguls, Logan.
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i want to be excellent like you i've been learning so much from you this whole time and i absolutely love it oh you're like my little sis i'm taking you under my wing and we're doing this together um and this that will that will be a nice way to end today's show uh we want to make sure to thank brittany sykes for pulling up for a one-on-one interview we want to thank all of you for watching subscribing if you haven't yet press that
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Press it. Do it. And also following us on social media at Good Follow Show. We drop every Wednesday, 7 p.m. Eastern. Thank you for rocking with us. She's Logan. I'm Roz. We'll see you next week, right? Absolutely. Bye, guys.
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And it was at some point exhausting for all sorts of fans, no matter what sides or beliefs you had. And I feel like this season, like, We'll have the opportunity to see her physically stronger, mentally rested, better improved. She has a squad and a team of real weapons around her now, real vets who can support her, who can lead her at times. She's got a really great coach coming in.
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I think she's got everything she needs to be successful. And I hope this season that the way we're discussing Caitlin is about the game and the production. So that means that we can be talking about how she's meeting the expectations, how she's exceeding the expectations, and also have critical conversations about the moments where she isn't.
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living up to the expectation, just as we would for a Victor Wambanyama, just as we would for a Jason Tatum. Like, I think that's the evolution of the conversation, not only around Kaitlyn Clark, but just women's basketball on a whole. So I'm excited for season two of Kaitlyn and the WNBA.
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I'm excited for Caitlin Clark year two. I know those 15,000 fans who bought those tickets in 40 minutes are excited. But it makes you think about the future of women's basketball, even after Caitlin and where we are right now. Do you think that there is any other players, specifically college players, who can replicate this kind of fandom in the way that we see for Caitlin Clark, Logan?
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I had no idea Monday night was the first time that they unveiled their player jerseys. So you could buy- It looks good on you. Oh, am I modeling? So no, but it was really cool. Like every single team's jersey was lined up and there were multiple of all of them with every single player's name and number. So you could literally buy your favorite player's jersey. It was really awesome.
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So I do think there's some players that will generate that kind of fandom. I do think to your point, like the logo threes, the no look passes, her style of play, how she shows up in big moments, that is generational and exciting.
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And I do think full stop, the level of eyeballs, butts in seats, money being spent, and attention around Kaitlyn Clark, there is a gap for everybody else in women's basketball. So full on respect for what she is doing. But I think there's other players. I think a healthy Paige Beckers has aura. I think Juju Watkins can be that, just continuing to have team and individual success.
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I think that in the WNBA right now, I did want to point out, I think there's one player who's not at the same level, but also a big time draw. And I would say Angel Reese. I don't even know why. I don't even really truly know what my affiliation is to her, like what my personal draws.
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But when I had to make a choice on where I was going to spend my one jersey purchase on, it ended up being Angel Reese. So I do think that like there's other players who are big draws, who captivate you and make you want to spend money, you know, and want to see them.
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I got the Rose. There's a lot of space and islands in a three on three basketball situation. So you got to have somebody who can like create their own space, create their own shot. They got players like that. Chelsea Gray, Kalia Copper. You also got a nice combination of defenders. Brittany Sykes, Lexi Hull defends. You got size as a Ray Stevens. You got Angel Reese. And I think Angel's tenacity.
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I happen to watch a couple of games. They can't.
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Yeah, well, I called that the Rose, you know, would be a really good team. I picked them as my favorite. They've now, they didn't start that way. So like, you know, look, it's easy to now, you know, point out the moment, oh, I was right. But at first they struggled. They've now won six of the last seven. And they've clinched the second playoff appearance after the Owls.
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And so this is a team that is being led by Chelsea Gray. She's their MVP. She's playing out of her mind. We're also seeing great offensive improvement from Angel Reese. You know, I said nobody can box her out. She's going to rebound. Yeah, she's owning the glass. But bigger than that, she looks a lot more poised on offense. And Lexi Hull is a worker.
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I picked out Rose. My name's Roz. I like Rose. I thought the color schemes would be easy to match. Camo, also I got the Angel Reese joint. So shout out to Angel. But it was such a cute night. I went to Fan Fest. I like won a shooting game. And then like the actual experience in the arena itself was so cracking. I caught a historic night. Girl, I hope you were watching.
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So this team is coming together at the right time. What are you seeing?
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Yeah, I mean, Hull Island, you've heard they said that? So she brings, she's just a worker. She's going to cut and move without the ball. She's going to crash and try to attack the glass. She's going to work hard on defense. And you know where you learn to be a great full-bodied player like that? at Stanford University. Boom! Yeah, Lexi! Go Card!
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But, you know, I also want to point out another team and I want to point out the Laces, who right now are sitting outside of the playoff top four and their record is deceiving. If this team in the Laces can manage to find a way to squeak into the playoffs, they are dangerous. Don't look at that record because they were strong to begin with and they got tripped up. Everybody got hurt.
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The entire team was injured and then all relief pool players. And now everybody's back and all of those healthy players that are back. Alyssa Thomas, Jackie Young, Tiffany Hayes, and of course Kayla McBride. Those are some veteran dogs, buckets, experienced assassins, two-way players, defensive stalwarts, tough. Like they can compete with anyone.
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So if they get in there, they are a dangerous wild card.
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You know, the team you wanted to be was a March team. You wanted to be ramping up and improving at this time of season. Shout out to coach Phil Handy, who has had this team improve collectively. And he's worked really hard with each of those players individually. And you're seeing that. payoff.
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You're seeing from a veteran player like Courtney Vandersloot, who at times is leading the competitive fire for this team. Or you're seeing the individual improvement and the increase of joy and engagement over the entire body of a game from Jewel Lloyd. And that was something she was working on. Not busting out for 20 straight points.
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No, just over the course of the whole game, playing with joy and making contributions. So her improvement. But everything The Mist is doing is anchored by Breanna Stewart. You know, Breanna Stewart is what makes them go. And let's look at some highlights of Stewie, because she's been, in this three-game winning streak for the Miss, she's been a huge part of it.
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Stewie is one of the best players in the world, and she's been doing a great job at Unrivaled getting to the rim, getting to the basket, attacking off the bounce, playing with her back to the cup, running her lane. She's got all these different moves, counter moves for counter moves. But what impresses me most about Stewie
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Did you see Brittany Griner with the first ever dunk in Unrivaled history? I did. And it was all over my feed this morning. Absolutely love it. I don't know what's crazier. The fact that like this was not like a running start dunk. It was in the action of like the flow of offense and a half court set, really nice pass, really great finish.
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You're talking about one of the best players in the world who's so willing to do the dirty work. Like she is on the glass. She's in there making things, gritty things happen. She's top five in total points, total assists, total rebounds. She's number two rebounds per game. And when she crashes the glass, a defensive board, she can get it and go and impact pace.
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An offensive board, she can get a foul. She'll get to the free throw line. Like Stewie makes great things happen on the court. And she just got a lot of heart.
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Hey, what's up, Good Follow? This is Roz Golden-Wooday, and I am coming to you live from Miami at the Unrivaled Campus. And we have in person here from Team Rose, from the Washington Mystics, my girl, Slim, Brittany Sykes.
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You know what? I'm from New York, and I can't tell. Sometimes people can't tell that. Am I giving New York vibes?
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Exactly. We lined up during your stop with the L.A. Sparks, so I really got to know your basketball game before you were there. Before we actually talk about basketball stuff, one of the things we're doing right now is setting intentions.
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Because you're on the talker tick. You're on the grammy gram. You're doing all the things you're with Gen Z doing this and that. Like, come on. What's up, content queen?
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You might have to hire somebody to do the editing. You just like plop all the content and you say, put this thing together. But that's one thing that I really noticed in being able to be close to you for long periods of time as a fellow broadcaster on Unrivaled and being together in Miami. You're such a lovely person.
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You really make time for people and your friendships and dynamics are so genuine. It's not just like kissing babies and shaking hands like Lisa messing with you. She's rocking with you. And that brings me to one of the friendships that, you know, people enjoy watching. It's between you and Dawn Staley as we, you know, sit here in March Madness and the women's tournament is underway.
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What have you seen as a lifelong friend of Dawn Staley? What did you see in her as a player, as a teammate, as a friend that you recognize now in her as a coach?
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Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, you mentioned her as a roommate and you guys were teammates in the Olympics. Now, were you roommates with her? What was Dawn like as a roommate? Oh, my God.
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Hey, what's up, y'all? Welcome to Good Follow, presented by DraftKings. I'm Roz Gold on Wooday, and that right there, that's my girl, Logan Hackett. Logan, how are you doing? I'm great. How are you? Girl, I'm so excited. There's so much happening in basketball. March Madness, it's now. We are in the April part of it. We are heading to the Final Four. I'm heading to Tampa. I'm so excited.
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Yeah. Yeah. You also mentioned you work well together. What are the chances you could see yourself? You know, is there any truth to these rumors that might be circulating right now and buzzing that you could work together on a coaching staff? Because I know this is something you had talked about being interested in on the WNBA side.
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And now there's all this buzz that, oh, Lisa and Dawn may link up.
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Okay. So it was social media running.
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Okay. Okay. We keep it moving then. You know, within the March Madness, we have had some sadness, obviously with the injury to the ACL of Juju Watkins. And I know this also hits home to, you know, USC is your alma mater. What does this injury mean for the trajectory of the career of Juju Watkins?
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Yes, yes, I have no doubts. I mean, this is something that has been overcome before in an ACL, but it certainly was shocking, right, and heard around the women's basketball world. But I'm here to tell you, as we look forward and look positive, that there is so many opportunities other exciting players and storylines and teams to be following in this tournament as well.
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And this tournament has been full of surprises, you know, so we got to come to you and ask who are some of the surprising teams and surprising players of the tournament and how has their performance and surprises, how's that going to shape the rest of March Madness?
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And what's your take on that? I was impressed by it because come March Madness, come the tournament, come, hey, we're one win away from the Final Four. You better believe that the scouting report is in, right? So what you need to advance are X factors.
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Just shifting a little bit from March Madness into other women's basketball, I mean, where you and I had the chance to work together was unrivaled in Miami. The season has come to a close. Just... Lisa, how would you evaluate this first inaugural season of Unrivaled and its trajectory moving forward?
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Players stepping up outside of themselves and putting on an incredible performance that the other team may not have counted for or maybe made a bet on, like, all right, we're going to take away this one. Let's see if they can beat me there. And that's exactly what happened with Tamia Gardner hitting five threes in the game. I mean, that's an X factor stepping up.
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Yeah, I loved it. Wow. Wow. No, I thought it was a great success, you know, and I thought it was every single thing that could be epic for Unrivaled happened, like whether it was the one on one tournament and Nafisa's dominance or the fact that the Owls dominated all the way and then got knocked out by a four seed or. I can't believe it.
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You know, like it was, it was just, and all the trash talking and the rivalries for 10 weeks, people cared.
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And, you know, with the team vinyl overcoming the dominance of the Owls, my immediate reaction was... only coach Spoon. You know, seriously, you hear about those players speak after overcoming such, you know, such a dominant team. And they all said, boy, Teresa Weatherspoon was speaking in my ear, was keeping us into it.
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Do you think this was a really, just a good showing for Teresa Weatherspoon since leaving Chicago, just the coaching job there?
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Or Jaquez with the dagger three, a big shot, rebounds, just steals, working throughout the game to make things happen. And as somebody who's been a point guard in stressful, tough situations, you know, I'm looking at Kiki Rice, who did not have a good shooting game, but still had eight assists. That takes mental toughness to continue to just stay with it, stay with it.
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So, I mean, and with the WNBA season, it's not even a year. We talking about a handful of months.
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Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, staying in on the conversation around like the WNBA on a whole, this is a pivotal time for the league itself. And attention's at an all time high. Ratings are at an all time high. They're adding WNBA teams. And right now the CBA is in renegotiations. And, you know, we'll get you out around this conversation.
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But as they go into renegotiations with the CBA, what do you think is important for the players and the league to keep in mind and be wary of?
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And speaking of mental toughness, we're going to highlight the fact that Lauren Betts had foul trouble in the game. But what stood out to me is that despite having foul trouble through the first half of the game, she still was able to come in and make big impact. I mean, she had six blocks in the game. She still had 17 points. She made her presence known on both ends.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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It's really hard when you're sitting out for that long, especially early, not to get psyched out, not to get cold, or it's hard to find your way back into a rhythm of the game. And instead, she was able to stay with it. The sign of a really high level and high mental toughness type player.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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on whether or not she should have this guest, Angel said herself, it's her podcast. Shannon Sharp is interviewing all sorts of kinds of guests and he's made his podcast one of the biggest in the country, in the world possibly. So why shouldn't Angel Reese have the opportunity for that, for her to be a platform where people get to take control of their own narratives?
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That was the whole point of this in the first place, right, for Angel?
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It's baby season. I feel like everybody's having a baby right now. I literally have started a budget for baby showers. It's getting out of control. Like I have to keep a calendar for all of everybody's like love babies, marriage engagements now. I mean, that's where I am in my life, Logan, maybe not for you yet.
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So we're just like, we're going to the final four. Yeah.
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Yeah, right. Logan, we're rocking out on our show. Good follow show. And it's now coming to an end, my love. So we want to thank all of you for rocking with us, for watching the show. I have seen y'all subscribing, commenting, liking. We thank you. You know, follow us on socials. We're going to keep trying to bring it for y'all. Every Wednesday at 7, we drop.
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We want to make sure to thank one of the GOATs, one of the legends of the game, probably one of our biggest guests ever to come to the show or most decorated in Lisa Leslie. Awesome interview with her. And Logan, any final words before we head out of here? Nothing but love ya. We're presented by DraftKings. We'll see you next week. Bye, guys.
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yeah i i too felt mind-boggled by the play of sarah strong i mean you know first of all 22.17 rebounds that's incredible but also the fact that she got to it right away and early you got a freshman setting the tone for your team and gino oriema challenged her he knew remember we talked about this in the beginning hey the scout is in we're taking away the stars so he challenged his freshman to step up and she did this is part of like the march madness um she's unafraid
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You know I like warm weather.
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She can play at different ranges. She's a mobile post that can shoot from three. She's undersized, but she makes it happen. And I'm really impressed by her poise. You know, she's heading to her first Final Four as a freshman. I remember my first Final Four. I wasn't a freshman, but I remember the first. And I was with Stanford.
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And literally, like, my first shot of the game, I believe I was starting. Yeah, I was a starter. My first shot of the game, I shot right over the rim. Like, whoop. Just right over it. And I think Tara just yanked me right away. I don't know. But more to say, like, yo, these moments are big. These stages are big.
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i love the shout out i think you know all of these guards are opportunistic and she came in was really great she ran her lane paige found her she got some really important layups and you're gonna need a full team effort for uconn but it also brings me um to to paige you who had a 40-point game, now a 31-point game, and she is aggressively hunting her shot. And she's reading the defense.
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If the defense is going to sit back in a drop coverage or if they're going to go under a screen, she's pulling from deep and fast. So she's going to burn you with the three. If the defense is on her hip, she's going to take you off the bounce. And what I love is how strong her final two steps are into her pull-up jumper. She's really set and balanced into that midi, that mid-range jump shot.
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She does not get in too deep. She does a great job of locating the gap and the hole and hits that. And she's really been great for mid-range and deadly. And maybe even more importantly...
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Not you being haunted by the voice of Ryan Rucco. You're in your kitchen. You bet. Oh my God, where are you? Where are you, Ryan Rucco? I'm gonna tell him that. No, but what's up to all of you? I know everyone watching at home. We've got a great show for you. Let me take you through the rundown today. And then there were four. We are definitely breaking down the woman's final four.
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Paige's understanding of the moment, when there's a moment where the momentum could swing or when they need to close a quarter or where they need to pour it on or they need a response, I have found that Paige has been stepping up to provide that in this tournament for UConn.
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Well, well, I'll just add in though, though. I think, I think it's an interesting point too, about like what those shots look like. I actually have been really impressed. I feel like a lot of her shots have been on balance. Yeah. You know, like that she's finding the gap and elevating, you know, elevating for it. I think she's very skilled and under control. Absolutely.
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Yeah, I was thinking about where the advantages are for these two teams. And I think one aspect of this, there's a mental kind of framing aspect of this. For UConn, they've been to the Final Four now. This is their second time in a row. They've been there 24 times. And it's very clear that the goal for them is the championship. They want to get Paige over the hump here.
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This has been an overarching storyline. Now, that's not to say UCLA's goal is not to win the championship, but you gotta be careful here because they are in a different place in the fact that this is the first Final Four in program history. So I think some very intentional reframing is important to make sure that you're not just happy with, you know, to be there.
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You want to make sure you're not just happy to be there. You're not happy with that headline that you want to get greedy right now and get two more wins. And so that's all I'm saying is that there is a mental advantage here that I think favors UConn. And it's just a matter of reframing that could help UCLA approach this game right. Size battle is another thing I'm looking at.
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I think the size battle is with UCLA and Lauren Betts. And I'm looking at the matchup. If we see Lauren Betts and Sarah Strong against each other at any point, I mean, maybe you could see UConn utilize their mobility to create foul trouble or their shooting ability, like Sarah Strong's ability to possibly pull a defender out, perhaps. Perhaps Lauren Betts opens up the paint for everyone else.
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But I still think that advantage goes UCLA. And then UConn, the advantages with their guard play between just experience, productivity, consistency, and pagebackers.
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It's a great point. And I actually think that that is an advantage for UConn though, because we haven't even seen AZ Fudd have some big game in this tournament. Like that's almost like something that could be another X factor for them in the final four. Should she come more alive? Maybe she's just saving it for Tampa.
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And you know, we've been talking about March Madness, but the madness is happening in the transfer portal, y'all. It is absolutely insane. So we are talking about that transfer portal and what's going on there. We also have an exclusive interview with Hall of Famer Lisa Leslie joins the show. And the interview is awesome.
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Girl, experience matters at this point of the season, and I agree. It looked like Duke did not know how to execute down the stretch and just close that game out and win or grab it or steal it or take it. And look, it's South Carolina who continues to find a way. But for me, again, at this point of the year, A win is a win is a win, and they don't have to be pretty. Win in advance.
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You only need two more at this point to the championship, and neither one of them got to be pretty. You just need a W. And so for South Carolina, I think what's key for them, they have an identity around defense. They've got to make sure that they at minimum execute that. And keep the game low scoring and, you know, make it hard on the other team.
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Offensively, South Carolina doesn't necessarily have some go-to, like, huge superstar player. It's by committee. And everyone's seemingly been, like, scrapping it together to make something happen. And for me, what that brings to light is just how great Dawn Staley has been. at understanding what buttons to push for her players, when to push them and how to.
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Like for instance, in the Sweet 16, it was Mylasia Fulwiley who came through and had a huge second half after Dawn Staley got on her. And she recognized in Fulwiley that in the past that she might've closed down, shut down, but that she was ready for that now. And she responded to have a huge second half and push them into the Elite Eight. In the Elite Eight game, Chloe Kitts had a strong finish.
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And she's been playing really strong as of late. But I think that Dawn Staley empowered her at the end. And there's some post-game, you hear them talking about how Dawn was like, yo, we're going to you. And Chloe wasn't fully even sure herself. She admitted that. And she said, I had to tell myself at the free throw line, I'm a good basketball player and I'm going to make that.
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And I found it really relatable because just because you're in these situations and shining in them does not mean that you always know right away that it's going to be you. There are some players who know, but there are some who are figuring it out as they go along. And Dawn. put her players in positions to step up and shine, and they did. And guess what?
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She did that in different ways for each of them. Different messaging for Fulwiley, different messaging for Kitts,
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And I got to tell you that there's a number of coaches, high-level coaches, that don't know how to talk to their players or only have one way to talk to their players and sometimes crush their confidence instead of empowering them or don't know that different players need different things. And as South Carolina scraps one win after another, and these are scrappy, squeak-it-out wins, it's dawn.
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who's understanding what buttons to push, who to empower, and how are we going to get out of this? And so I just want to shout out Dawn Staley on the coaching job.
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Well, when you have two strong defensive teams, possessions matter even more. So that's one. Also, can Texas take advantage of their size? And then finally, Madison Booker. She is shooting only 21% in losses to the Gamecocks this season.
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She talks about her relationship with Dawn Staley, the WNBA's negotiations of the CBA. We reflect on Unrivaled, all the things. I mean, we're even talking about taste testing oxtails, all the things. So really cool to catch up with one of the GOATs.
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What's up, Good Follow? We have a legendary guest joining us today. We have a Hall of Famer, a two-time WNBA champion, a three-time WNBA MVP, a four-time Olympic gold medalist. These are just to name a few of the accolades of the great and awesome Lisa Leslie. What's going on, Lisa?
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Yes. People don't know. Yes. We were together covering Unrivaled and we were down in Miami in Medley and Lisa and I needed a lunch break. And we said, girl, where are we going to find some oxtails?
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We did it. It was delicious. And we had the mac and cheese side, right? Yes. I read all a bunch of your accolades, but an accolade that, you know, may not even be on your Wikipedia page and is flying under the radar, content queen. OK, content queen, because like, how do you love and crush social media so much? And how are you staying up with all of these trends?
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I don't want to be the girl that says, oh, toot my own horn. I don't want to do that, okay? But I called it.
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Bring the receipts.
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especially over there in the Warriors yeah that's what they got versus like the Houston Rockets and all the other teams what you think about that series as soon as the Warriors lined up against the Rockets I was like I know the Rockets gotta be tired of the Warriors I know they gotta be
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tired of the Warriors in the postseason because they just keep knocking them just one team out and it's different generations of Rockets being tired of the Warriors and now you got this new era of Rockets these young guys trying to bust out and the old guys won't let them in Draymond, Steph and so you know I just think at this time of year What's showing is experience still matters.
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Knowing how to win still matters. And also being Steph matters. Like, you know, period, right? Being Steph Curry helps. No, but like... Going up against the defense of the Rockets against him was physical. It was athletic. It was youthful. It was eager. And, like, what impressed me was Steph's cuts to the basket off the ball or with the ball.
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You know, we're going to watch all the highlights of Steph shooting threes when it's all said and done and making tough shots and actually coming out of that game making some tough threes. But for me, it was the reads against very physical, tough defense to the cup. Steph's always been really nice off the bounce to the basket and finishing.
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for that swish so get your conditioning training in together you feel me that's what being a big boy is you know whether it's Jimmy Butler or Stephen Curry or even you know Draymond Green or somebody coming up with the play you know or a stop or just a read that makes sense and so like
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at least for game one, you know, the Warriors had the Rockets card, but I do think that the Rockets' youth, growing experience, hunger, their athleticism over the course of a series may wear on the Warriors. I think that was a really tough, I think it was hard work what Steph pulled off. That game was physical against him, and he's going to have to do that throughout a series.
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Oh, I definitely feel you. And that means a lot to me. And I'm really thrilled to see that, you know, you're building out this lane and this show, you know, for yourself. When I heard that, oh, Juju's doing, you know, something new and cool and his own with Ball, which also you do, I know you do the men's and the women's. I was like, oh, I want to pull up. Like, so excited for you. Congrats. And
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Yeah.
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Queens get the money. I'm from Queens. So you know who I'm rolling with. And there's nothing like the Mecca and the garden and just feeling that energy. And it's always exciting when New York basketball is good. So, and I'm getting texts from my, like, it's also a family moment for me. You know,
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As much as I cover basketball, I try to make sure that I'm still enjoying it with passion, enthusiasm, and like a fan. I guess it's okay to say that. People have fandom as professionals. But, like, I don't want to lose that joy. And so, like, it's a family moment.
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Like when, you know, I'm getting a text from my sister or my group chat's going crazy or, you know, my group chat thinks there's a conspiracy from the refs because there's no fouls. Or, you know, and I think, like, that's, you know, what makes it special. Yeah.
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You were there for some of the dysfunction. You stuck around as a fan.
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Yeah, and we hope that Kennedy Carter finds a team, like, you know, because she had a career season in Chicago. But I know that Atlanta, it's personal for you. You know the players, and they rock with you, you know?
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I love Leisha. Leisha curved the ring.
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Congratulations. So speaking of rings, so I cover the New York Liberty in the summer.
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No, no, no. They won their ring. They won a championship. Yeah, I see you got your Sav jersey. All I'm trying to say here, this wasn't just a plug that the Liberty won and that Atlanta didn't. We love all teams. I happen to be the color commentator for the New York Liberty, but I also grew up on a Liberty. Like my mother took me to the games when the WNBA started and I had a Rebecca Lobo jersey.
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And like when the Liberty won, um, the championship, like it was, I mean, so I, like I did the formal professional stuff at Barclays five games. I leave, I get my people and we hit the streets. Like, we are out in Brooklyn in the streets. Like, the cops are out with us banging on garbage cans. Like, people are dancing in the street. The music is up. People are honking their horns.
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And it, like, it took 28 years. It took the entire history of the WNBA to get the Liberty Championship. It was me, my sister, like, old friends from back in the day, college friends. We was just outside. And, like, I was dancing. I was doing all sorts of stuff. I was saucing. And it just felt so good.
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Ellie, honestly, might have had the biggest year ever. I'm trying to see who had a bigger year than Ellie. Ellie had a bigger year than some of the WNBA players. I seen her on the State Farm commercial with Jake. Ellie's unapologetic. Ellie speaks to the people. I hosted the championship parade for the Liberty. And we didn't even know if Ellie was going to be part of it. It was game time.
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Like, so... We didn't know. I have a script. We're working with the city. There's thousands of people outside at City Hall. We've got the mayor. We've got the players. We've got ownership all on the stage. I'm kind of like I heard Ellie might be part of it. I wasn't sure. All of a sudden, they're like, Ellie's here. Just just announce her. I was like, and guess who's here?
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Like, I forgot what I said, but I was just like, Ellie, the elephant. When I say it was like Beyonce herself came out. There was like a dance routine dancers. Ellie gonna come down with the door like this. And the crowd goes wild. And I was like, OK, you better go ahead. You are so silly, but I'm here for it.
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Keep doing your thing. Keep being you. Like, I think that's the difference, right?
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Biggest leap? The Indiana Fever. Mm-hmm. caitlyn clark and and and now a squad full of like they smashed the off season over there they really crushed free agency and supported her with champions with experience with vets with talent with real like you know very high level weapons indy really ramped up and i'm excited for caitlyn clark in year two i think she is the real deal i think she she
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Absolutely lived up to the height. And I think she'll continue to meet or even exceed expectations. She's very talented.
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I do love, you know, an old school record or old school Sunday. But I will say, like, right now I'm listening to R&B in my mornings, in my car. I'll be listening to it, working out. And so I hope I don't say his name wrong, but I love everything he's doing. Elmeen?
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I live in California, so I was up watching, you know, the West Coast series. I was watching the Clippers and the Nuggets last night. And I know, I know. You know, I've always got my eyes on the Warriors. You know, one of these things that stands out to me in the playoffs is that in the calendar year of 2025, like... The vets still vetting. They still got it.
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Elmeen. Elamin or something? Yeah. I'm not sure.
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All his music, I love. He's beautiful music. Kehlani, I enjoy. I can get down sometimes. What I'm tapping in sometimes to my inner toxic queen. No, but she's so talented. I love Thames. That Mutt song, Quiet as Kept, I like the original version more than the remix. Chris Brown?
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I like the original better, although when you have a chance to put Chris Brown on a track, I guess you got to do it. You got to do it.
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But I did like the original and the way it made me feel. There's a couple of songs of a season that stand out, and that one does.
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I like swag surf for the community. I'd be happy for the children and stuff.
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Which is still a classic. I'm happy to see my boy make his money. Who's that, Khaled?
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That might be a serial killer. Ain't nobody normal just driving around listening to All I Do is Win. Where are the places you got to be to listen to All I Do is Win? An arena?
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A marathon racetrack? I can't even think. Where else?
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A college graduation.
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That might be a serial killer. Ain't nobody normal. Just driving around, listening to all I do is win.
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These old superstars, they still them guys. They just know how to win, you know? Like, look at Kawhi right now. You miss a whole year, come back, and look like you never missed a beat.
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Hour 2: Have a Gold Day (feat. Ros Gold-Onwude)
crushed unrivaled in Miami, won the championship, won the MVP, the finals MVP. I think they're coming back rejuvenated. I think that's a good answer. It's not gold because I still think the favorites are the New York Liberty. Fever, same thing.
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They have ramped up the talent and the amount of support around Kaitlyn Clark and, you know, Aaliyah Boston and Kelsey Mitchell as their core big three, but they got all these vets. They're going to have to mesh. They got to get it together, but I think they could contend. But they are not gold.
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What do you mean?
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I'm one of those girlies that believe, you know, you support your man. So PJ, okay. If he has to make a move, you know, then that's what she'll be. But Miami is, you know, a sweet life.
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she's more decorated i think is she more yes she's more decorated you know what's funny they actually have very similar games are y'all familiar enough with asia's game to be able to i know for a fact she's like one of the top players in the league if not the top player in the league and that is certainly not bam multiple multiple time MVP fair but stylistically interestingly enough
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They both are two-way players who continue to add offensive to their game. Asia might be, you could depend on Asia more for offensive production, but they both locked down. They're both got good athleticism.
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Also, shout out to Mitch Johnson, Stanford University. We both played on the basketball programs, men's and women's at the same time. Shout out to Mitch Johnson, new head coach of the Spurs.
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Gold follow. Thanks, guys. It was a pleasure.
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I don't stop. No, guys. Have a gold day. Thank you.
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I think the players and the coaching staff get to be the champions, but if the organization is classy, has that extra bag, that extra money, they might give you a ring. But I do try to draw the line. I cover a championship team. I work with a championship team. I got rings for all the Warriors championships I was with, and we'll see if I get one for the Liberty.
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Listen, I like that line in the sand. You work for the organization, which I've done too. So I guess you're part of a championship organization and everyone within it gets to be a champ. No, you're being too nice.
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That should have a question mark.
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Do you wear them?
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So you got to go back and help help the helpless ring. It also is a nice conversation starter. Like maybe I should start.
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Not at all. And there's also Tears of Rings. I'm very proud of the time I spent covering the Warriors during, especially during like that time. It was, you know, the peak of like Dynasty era. I was there for the very first, I worked my way up from the Santa Cruz Warriors, their G League team. Came in for the first year of Steph and Steve Kerr. Everything popped off right there.
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And then I saw them go from this innocent group of guys who were excited to get past the second round to literal superstars. And my last year with them was the Kevin Durant.
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championship ring gear and there's tears so it's the big mama-jama rings like that cover hand for the players and staff yes and I remember I think there were two tears after that there was one that was smaller but still diamond covered for other supportive staff members and then another tier where I don't think it was like as diamond covered but it was still
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metal that went to, like, another tier of staff. And I got that middle tier.
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Did you get a certificate of authenticity and an evaluation of price? Because mine came with that.
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I have that. I have the box with the spinner and the lights that show it.
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Yeah, respectfully. Sorry, I didn't mean to insult with that question. But do you have the box? Well, that was. Yep. Who did yours? We had Jacob the jeweler, I believe, at the time.
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Acme? Acme is crazy.
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Hour 2: Have a Gold Day (feat. Ros Gold-Onwude)
They make dynamite, you got your ring. Don't let these people, ask them where their championship rings are. Don't let them see you.
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Hour 2: Have a Gold Day (feat. Ros Gold-Onwude)
nowhere they're nowhere we'll be looking forever if i ask them where theirs are if you want a more a less gaudy place to rock your ring because i feel like the hand is a little it's big and it's gaudy you can make a chain and wear it as a necklace and like i maybe that only works for girls but i think like that's a cute way to like make use of the ring otherwise i've never i've never ever once wore the rings they're just both in the box safely in a safe box
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I don't know everybody.
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I think all things New York, I'm gonna lead with the New York Liberty. These are the reigning champions. I had the pleasure of covering them last season for about half the season. It's about half the games last year. We doubled down this season. I am their full-time color analyst. I'm from New York. I remember when the WNBA started. I'm from Queens.
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My mother took me to go see New York Liberty Games. 28 years the league existed. They never won a championship. And they finally won one last season. It meant so much to me on like a personal level. And my mother's sick and, you know, completely out of it with Alzheimer's and stuff. I wish she could really know what's going on and that her daughter was there.
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Hey, what's up? I'm Roz.
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I got to host the championship parade at City Hall. I just kept thinking about my mom, who changed my whole life through basketball. And so I love this team. I'm very thankful to be around them. We'll see if I get a ring for my 15 or so games of coverage last season. I don't I don't know, but I'm really just excited either way. I'm excited for my Brooklyn summer.
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I'm gonna have a full-time Brooklyn summer and in connection to the Knicks, interestingly enough, I know the Liberty are owned by the owners of the Nets, the Brooklyn Nets. I am a New York Knicks.
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fan born and bred it's in my blood but respectfully um coming to new york to cover the new york liberty i leave at the end of the month should hopefully coincide with the knicks being in the eastern conference finals on their way to the finals and i'm gonna be all in the mix of it i cannot wait i cannot wait new york might explode if the knicks like it's just
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I'm ready to be in the streets with the people just out there going.
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I got some answers. So New York basketball is culture, right? So like the way I came up in New York basketball, honestly, early on, my concept wasn't like I'm going to the garden to watch a Knicks game. That was something that was so outside of my stratosphere growing up, you know, lower class, poor in Queens.
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Ball was, we went to park tournaments at Kenny Anderson in Lefrak City, or we were at Kingdome or Dykeman or, you know, just street tournaments, Rucker Park. And it was holding your own. And at any level, there was so much respect for anyone who could hold their own. Like even at the park across the street from my house at PS206, like Hoops was... Such a big part of the culture.
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And we had such huge stars coming out, huge names. New York was the basketball factory. It has fallen off since. But people you followed and you took pride in, in my generation, it was like Sebastian Telfair and things like that. And the women's basketball had some big names too, Epiphany Prince. So... Like that's how much the game is loved at all levels.
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Imagine now you're talking about at the pros and New York Knicks is, you know, the bloodline of it. The Nets got there later to Brooklyn and that's exciting as an alternative. But when the Liberty won the championship this summer, After they won, Brooklyn was alive. People were in the streets. Police cars drove by, honked their horns at us.
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People were playing music in the streets, like dancing with each other, all sorts of music, everything from Soca to Bad Bunny to hip hop to this and that. And it was so exciting. Like if the Knicks do it, I'm actually afraid for safety. Like, it might be a riot.
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I was happy for the Celtics to have a nice emotional win there. Like, you know, that was a pride win. And as a Knicks fan, I was happy for them. You know, I'm not all crazy. I'm not cruel.
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No, no, no, no, no. I thought that was very nice for all of those nice role players to play outside themselves. Cornette, you know, White's out there shooting a bunch of threes. They're at home. It's exciting. Let's go back. A role player? No, he's a star. He's a star. He's a star. I really, really, really like Derek White. I really like Derek White, and I can go on a –
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tangent on why I think he's such an important player to winning. But when they play the Knicks, I got a little, you know, a little cute there. But I thought I was happy for them to have that moment in honor of Jason Tatum in Boston. And now let's go to New York and finish things up and move along. So, yeah.
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Well, I think, you know, look, there's a number of players that I played with and against that are still in the league now. So it's not that far off, like, you know, your Nneka Agwumike's, you know, but those are the veteran vets, the Skylar Diggins now, like those are the vets of the league, but they're still the dominant in this league.
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I wouldn't say so much from when I played to what's happening now that there's such a difference in the quality of play. I would just say there's such a difference in the investment and eyeballs and attendance and engagement with the league. And I also think that the league on a whole is much more authentic, right? Like everybody's... Instead of trying to present... the nice girls of the WNBA.
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Everybody's leaning into who they are. We got villains. We got all types of gender, sexuality. We got all types of like femininity styles. We got different ways to show power and beauty. We got storylines, things that carried over from college to the WNBA. You know, very captivating stars like Of course, Caitlin Clarke is leading the way as far as eyeballs and attention.
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Angel Reese also has a captivated audience. And those are young stars that also lived up to the hype, like the basketball product lived up to the hype. And then players who like I'm excited to see more of Asia Wilson. I think Nafisa Collier coming off of Unrivaled in Miami with y'all. might have established herself as the next favorite for best player in the world.
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And with the Liberty, you've got to check out Sabrina Inescu and Brianna Stewart, Jonquil Jones. The Liberty could run this thing back. They really could. They are so deep in talent. But there's a lot of competition. It's a lot of parity in the league. So the difference is the attention and investment.
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Mind you, these seasons are different lengths.
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Everyone's a winner in this game. So I just want to come back to the Aces. I expect them to be a lot better than last season. Asia Wilson is rusted. Since you guys are Miami fans, you might have noticed that she hard launched her love and relationship with Bam Adebayo. She's happy, she launched her sneakers, she took time away from ball. I think that's key. And then also Chelsea Gray.
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Ich fühle mich wirklich glücklich für New York, die hungerig ist für, du weißt, das ist das erste ever Championship. WNBA-Championship ever for the city. It took the Liberty 28 years to do it. I'm happy for the franchise. I'm happy for the league. This is, you know, one of the original eight franchises in the history. And there's only three remaining of those.
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Ja, ich mag die Vergleiche zu Nikola Jokic. Auf der offensiven Seite meistens. Nafisa Collier ist 1 und 2 für die besten Defensivspieler in der Liga. Und sie war dieses Jahr der Defensivspieler des Jahres. Ich würde sagen, das ist, wo es ein bisschen eine Unterschiede gibt.
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Aber offensiv ist sie, und das ist nicht um Jokic zu schälen, sondern um zu sagen, dass wir literally über den sehr besten Defender in der Liga für die WNBA sprechen. Ich würde sagen, offensiv sehe ich eine Menge Vergleiche, weil das Lernlevel von Jokic das Generationale seiner Größe ist.
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Seine, weißt du, Touch, seine Art von Timing, seine Fähigkeit, Spieler zu finden, seine Bewegung ohne den Ball. Das ist das, was Nafisa Collier ist. Sie setzt Kliniken auf, jedes Mal, wenn sie auf dem Platz ist. Und es ist besonders beeindruckend, was sie nach dem Setten eines Bildschirms macht. Seine Bewegung ohne den Ball, ihr Fußwerk, ihr Mobilität. Sie ist einfach so freundlich und smooth.
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Und ihr Fußwerk und all das erinnert mich an den hohen Niveau der Fähigkeit, die Jokic hat. Und du kannst natürlich dein Offense durch sie fahren, wie du Jokic machen könntest.
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Hey, das ist gut für Fee, oder?
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Roz, you go first on this one. You know, I think this is a surprising comparison for me. That's not where I would have gone. Okay. What I'll first say, I'll address this comparison. I think it's... Not me addressing it.
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So it's the Liberty, the Sparks, and the Phoenix Mercury. And only the Liberty didn't have a championship that was remaining. So it was... You know, history, honestly. And then on top of that, New York hadn't had a championship in pro basketball in 51 years. So there was a lot of hunger for this championship. And then, you know, I think the most important thing, I was happy for this team.
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No, no, no. First of all, Kevin Durant might be... Kevin Durant and Asia Wilson might represent two of my favorite players in their leagues. And I like Kevin here because I actually don't think he gets enough credit as a defender over the course of his career. And I'll die on that hill. But no, for me, it's not Kevin for Asia. Who is it?
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The comparison I like for Asia, and it's funny, I was actually out of practice speaking with Becky Hammond and she comes, you know, the whole broadcast group is there and she comes walking up and like Asia's balling. It was not this season, but last season. She comes walking up. Who could you give as a comparison? You know how Becky is.
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Who could you give as a comparison for Asia Wilson in the NBA? I was trying to think about it and I couldn't think of anyone. That's tough. Who is the comparison for Asia Wilson? And I literally was like, I think it's Bam out of Bayo. Which has so many interesting ties. But I do think her comparison for me is Bam Adebayo. They both have great impact on both sides of the court. Incredible motor.
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What stands out to me about both of them, their motor. They both have extended their range, have offensive game. I think Asia's offensive game and Accountability on the offensive end might be greater than Bam's, but Bam every single season improves.
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And defensively, they remind me a lot of each other and just their motor, their athleticism, their athleticism and their defense and domination on that side of the court. So it's kind of funny because, I don't know, are they still hiding it? I mean, they were just seen together at Dwayne Wade's trophy thing. I thought that was their big coming out party. I don't know, but it's not my business.
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But I'll just say... The couple that dominates together, you know, I don't know. Stays together. Wins together.
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And I feel like a parade is a really special way for everyone to like have their moment. And whether it was like Niara Sabli on the stage, she got Sabli, Sabli chance. Or if it's Clara Wu Sai and Joe Sai, who deserve incredible credit and flowers, as well as Jonathan Cole, the GM. So leadership, ownership, the GM. Hia Clark, shout out to my girl who'd been with the Liberty. She's the CEO.
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Ich liebe die Vergleiche, es macht viel Sinn, besonders wenn du über Caitlin's Schussfähigkeit von tief aus sprichst, die Unmöglichkeit, wie beide dieser Spieler dich mit der 3 fühlen, die Aufschlussfähigkeit.
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auf points and how they also have great impact over the entire offenses of their team um you know both of them stir the pot and make it go and it's more than just the three-point shot where i say caitlin um has some growth to catch up to steph and duh she's literally a rookie But one thing Steph has done, he's really added on, he likes to call himself wiry strong.
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So he's, you know, he's strong, he's got good muscle on him. And things that, one thing that differentiated Steph too, it's not just the three-point shot, it's how he gets to the rim and finishes there. And I'm actually really looking forward to that in Caitlin Clark in year two, when she adds some strength, when she adds some different, you know, toolkit techniques,
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different moves and combos to the lane and stuff adds a floater. I'm excited to see some filet on all her finishes and English. And that's when I'll really be like, oh, nah, she's got that Steph game. Right now, she's got Steph's three.
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Raus, was sind deine Gedanken? Ich werde nur diskutieren. Außer mit Jalen. Nein, für mich ist es nicht Jalen, aber ich werde die Luca-Sache diskutieren. Luca kam mir auf ein paar Dinge in den Sinn. Und es ist nicht Luca für Sabrina. Have you all seen Luca in person? Of course. Luca's six, what is he, six nine, six eight? He's a huge man.
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He's like, and he's like, I don't know what his weight is, but this is a bulky, huge man who is moving like a guard. That is what kind of makes him really unique, right? His size and his strength and then his ability with this slow game to like, you know, step back and shoot over you from anywhere. But it's not fast, you know, by any means. So for me, it wasn't Luca. Right.
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And we kind of gave Steph to Caitlin. I could see some Steph comparisons perhaps for Sabrina. Certainly Luca and Sabrina both have that killer instinct and that like, you know, ability to hit a big shot. But for Sabrina, she's slight, like she's not slight. She's a tall guard. Let me not say that, but she's not dominating with her girth, if you will. Luka ist einfach so groß.
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Ich bin immer überrascht, wenn ich sehe, wie er sich bewegt.
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Nicht, dass Sabrina einen Stahlwert auf Defense hat, aber sie ist okay. Sie zeigt sich auf. Sie zeigt sich auf. Sie kommt auch viel mehr zum Rennen. Sie hat sich da verbessert. Aber was ich in Sabrina sehe, ist ein großes offensives Visionen. Sie bringt ihre Teamleute mit, drückt den Puls. Ich würde gerne eine Vergleiche für Tyrese Halliburton machen.
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She'd been there for 14 years. Getting the franchise over the hump. And then obviously how the city loved on stars like Sabrina. They yearned for her. Obviously, Breanna Stewart is a hometown girl. Jonquil Jones has so much love. She got her chant, you know, we're all we need chant going. It was beautiful. And one thing I'm proud of, New York showed out for the champs.
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Tyrese Halliburton, tiefe Drei, Transition, Up-Tempo-Play, findet seine Teamleute, assist-weise. Ich könnte eine Vergleiche machen.
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Yo, Sports Gossip, congratulations. That is so cool. You know I'm a big fan, so I've been watching all the content coming out.
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Are y'all friends in real life?
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It was a loud, enthusiastic, participating crowd that was just rowdy and fun and excited and pulled up deep. So, you know, parades are really a beautiful, beautiful moment. I think the parades are what really makes it real for an organization. And I'm really, really happy for every single piece from top down, even Ellie, Liberty Franchise. Congratulations to them.
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And for me, it's just an honor to be able to cover them.
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For sure. So I think the expectations for the Fever now that they've moved forward, if you'll notice, there's actually been a whole shift in their leadership from, you know, the GM to the president role. They've got people returning who were there for Glory Days. You know, Amber Cox, people are very excited about. And I'm not going to say any names until things are announced.
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But, you know, there's rumors swirling about Ich glaube, dass sie nicht in diese Sache wachsen wollen. Ich glaube, sie denken, dass sie nicht in diese Sache wachsen wollen. We've got a superstar who dominated the league in her entire season, but that second half of the season arguably was an MVP candidate. Imagine what year two looks like. This isn't about gradually getting there.
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I think this is, we're acting now. We're not just happy to be here. We're hungry and we're going for all the marbles next season. I think this is a team that wants to go for it. And they probably want a more experienced coach to take them over the hump and be their leader. And also just kind of unify that locker room and get them over the hump.
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And I think everybody, including the Indiana Fever and the WNBA, will be much more prepared as well for... all of the attention that came with last season on that team. It's not going to go anywhere, but they'll be better prepared for it. Logan, you're pretty close to the league.
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Another thing I'll add about Stephanie White, I love your point about the defense, the defensive ability she would bring potentially from her tenure with Connecticut. That's her tenure with the WNBA. I mean, she spent now time calling games as an analyst on the NBA side.
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She's been around a lot of high-flying offenses, coaches that she can call on, three-point-heavy, pick-and-roll-heavy type offenses. And I think that experience on the NBA side as well could bear fruit. Und zu all den verschiedenen Techniken und Strategien, die sie auf beiden Seiten des Balles bringen kann, zu einem sehr talentierten Indiana Fever Team.
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Also, ich meine, wir sprechen an einem Termin. Wir wissen nicht, ob das necessarily passieren wird, aber das ist, wo die Gerüchte sind. Und die Möglichkeit, das Potenzial davon ist sehr spannend zu denken.
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Mhm, that's a good question. I think in the past there has been such a reshuffling of the same names, the same folks getting circulated throughout these jobs in the WNBA. In fact, the WNBA job was very separate from a college job too. It was considered very different. And I expect that that market to open up and I expect to see New faces, fresh blood.
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I think this is a time for all of that and for a few reasons. I tweeted about this, but the type of player entering the WNBA right now is very different. They are already, first of all, the top stars, they're already going to be millionaires through NIL. They're already established brands. There are... This is a group that will demand more and also is expecting more.
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I think the rewards for being successful as a team owner or part of the governorship of a team are so much more explosive now. You're looking at Clara Wu Tsai and Joe Tsai, who in 2019 bought the New York Liberty. It's reported somewhere around 10 to 15 million dollars. And there's reports now that the team is worth 200 million dollars. 15 Millionen bis zu 200 Millionen Dollar.
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Ein fünfjähriger Umgang. Und dieser Gewerkschaftsgruppe hat sich wirklich auf die Linie gesetzt, indem sie Befragungen gemacht haben, um das Team auf Charterfliege zu stellen. Sie haben einen Lebensstil gemacht, wo Spieler kommen wollten, um dort zu spielen.
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Ob es der Crown Club ist, haben sie eine Situation gemacht, wo sie trainieren können, an den höchsten Niveauen und Facilitäten, die top-notch waren. And you're starting to see other ownership groups seeing that and starting to fight for that. And recognizing that they can fill arenas. And recognizing that they can sell merch. And recognizing that they can raise ticket prices.
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And that when they win a championship, you know, these new... TV-Rights are coming, the money is up, everything, the attention is up. There's too much at stake right now to just do the same old, same old. This is an unprecedented amount of attention and eyeballs on the league. And so, like, there's a level of urgency that everyone's moving with.
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Ich komme aus der anderen Perspektive. Ich glaube, es komponiert mit der WNBA. Es ist während der Off-Saison. Es gibt bereits Unlimited-Athleten. Es gibt bereits Spieler, die nach außen gehen. Hier ist eine Option, die lukrativ ist, wo man in dem Land bleiben kann.
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Und ich denke auch für diese Top 30 Spieler jetzt, und auch wenn es ein Erfolg ist, schätze ich, in zukünftigen Jahren wird es über 30 Spieler weitermachen. Aber es ist eine Möglichkeit für diese Spieler, nicht nur zu verschwinden zu müssen. Wie die Brandbildung und die Geschichte weitergeht. Und ja, sie werden in Miami spielen in Unrivaled.
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Oh Gott, ich fliege immer noch, ich fliege immer noch. Es war eine große Ehre, die Gelegenheit zu haben, der Meister der Zeremonien für die Paradezeremonie zu sein. Ich habe es absolut genossen als Profi, aber auch als lokaler New Yorker, als Fan. Ich fühlte die Enormität davon für die Stadt.
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Sie werden in Art Basel sein, wenn sie ein bisschen früh reinkommen. Sie werden bei NBA All-Star sein. Sie werden an Gala- und Frauen-Eventen sein. Sie werden Brand-Tipps machen. Sie werden Cover-Story machen. Einige der schwierigen Teile des Auslandes sind, dass du Geld verdienst. Es ist nicht nur so, dass du von deinen Familien weggehen musst, was schwierig ist.
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Wenn du wirklich ein Star bist, hast du die Chance verloren, aufzulösen. Du verlierst die Aufmerksamkeit von allen in den USA.
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I have. I was actually haunted at a haunted hotel. It was actually the Milwaukee Bucks Hotel. They too have a haunted hotel. And for another time, I'm happy to come on the show and share my experience. I was absolutely haunted back when I was sideline reporter for the Warriors on a road trip. It happened to me.