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Wed, 12 Mar 2025
This week on Good Follow: Ros & Logan discuss their tournament expectations for USC, UCLA, South Carolina, and Texas, decide if Notre Dame should be worried heading into March Madness, and preview the Unrvialed Playoffs. Then, Ros sits down with WNBA & Unrivaled guard Jordin Canada to talk Unrivaled, learning from Sue Bird and finding her voice. Then, Logan & Ros recap the NWSL Challenge Cup, and Logan sits down with USWNT legend Kelley O’Hara to preview the 2025 NWSL Season. Finally, Ros shares her Unrivaled pick of the week presented by DraftKings. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What are Ros and Logan's expectations for March Madness?
All righty. We had another crazy weekend in college basketball with the conference tournaments going on. And to be honest, I felt like Elmo in that GIF or GIF when he's like engulfed in flames. I kind of love all the chaos. But I want to start with the big 10. First of all, we saw Caitlin Clark absolutely jacked. Caitlin, I need your routine, A. But B, is it serious?
She's on a vitamin regimen.
Yeah, what is going on? I am jealous. I am shocked. Like, that is something I would... long for. We also saw a rematch between USC and UCLA. I mean, I feel like they're meeting all the time, but this was for the Big Ten tournament title, and it was UCLA who quite literally took the crown at this time. It was crazy to see their defense and the adjustments that they made.
Shout out to Lauren Betts as well. But USC only made four baskets in the final 12 minutes, which is so unexpected. I mean, I feel like this was very much a statement game for them. But with March Madness coming up very quickly, what are each team's expectations heading into it?
Yeah, you know, first of all, we're getting heavyweight matchups between UCLA and USC. Some people are hoping that they'll see this matchup a fourth time and maybe they'll both get one seeds in Tampa, perhaps the final four. I would love to see it. Why not? But, you know, I think it was a great response from UCLA getting this win. I think shout out to Lauren Betts. Like, wow.
You know, she really sets the tone for them defensively. She had four blocks, four steals in the game. Three of those four blocks came in the fourth quarter. And there was a really signature defense. defining moment as Juju Watkins is just trying to find a way to score a bucket, goes to the lane, and she's denied by Lauren Betts. And I just think you set the tone in that way.
And it's not just defense. Offensively, Lauren was able to be super efficient, 7 for 10 from the field for 17 points. She absolutely was deserving of that most outstanding player. And, you know, good for UCLA, whose defense was just staggering in the second quarter.
So UCLA, I mean, they were just absolutely suffocating on defense in that second half and thwarted anything that USC was trying to do. And that brings me to USC. They were up by 13 in the third quarter. And Logan, you brought it up. They only hit two field goals in the last 12 minutes of game time. Like in real lifetime, like that's like 30 minutes or even more. That's a long time where...
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Chapter 2: Who won the latest college basketball tournaments?
they can't get something going. And so that's my question for USC. Like, when the offense isn't flowing, when Juju's not going, like, how do you manufacture some kind of production? Because USC didn't get to the free throw line enough, I think. Like, they only got there 13 times. And when you're struggling to score the ball, every possession starts to really count for more.
And they turned it over 19 times. So they don't even have the ball long enough. And you've got to figure out when you're an elite team, how do you stop the bleeding? And one of those is, you know, not turning it over. I think a healthy film session will help USC right now as they head into March. I mean, again, not a panic moment, but just healthy film session to answer these types of questions.
Yeah, and to go with that point, the stat on it was they shot 22.2% from the field in the second half, which is just atrocious. Especially, as you said, getting down to crunch time. This is a game that you want to win. You want to complete the three-peat. You know how much animosity is behind it with some...
things that you've seen online, but very shocking to see that on the UCLA side, good for them because their only losses are to USC. They denied the three-peat, I guess you'd say, but heading into March, that's a very good look to have on your resume.
Oh, my goodness. They changed their season, girl. Had they lost again to USC? I mean, it completely changes the way they headed to March. But that wasn't the only tournament that crowned a champion. We're going to take a look at the SEC tournament. South Carolina wins.
Shout out to Dawn Staley, who was a pillar of just excellence and consistency over the course of years and different rosters and classes. But they took down Texas. They won by 20 to win the SEC tournament. So, Logan,
is south carolina like finding their their top gear at the right time or did texas peak too soon too early in the season i honestly think it's a mixture of both it's kind of a crazy year for south carolina because in the past they've never really had to flip that switch and be like okay it's go time they've been go from the very start whereas this year you saw them take losses early you there's people who are questioning okay is this going to be a championship winning team
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Chapter 3: How did South Carolina perform in the SEC tournament?
and there's more people who doubted them than before which they thrive off of so them flipping this switch in the sec tournament showing how truly dominant they are i mean it's a master class i i was watching it and i was like they they have a very good shot at winning the natty now which that was the first time i've thought about that on the other hand all of texas's stats were trash absolutely trash they weren't getting anywhere in this game i mean 29.6 from field goal range and 12.5 from three point
What are you doing with that, especially against a team like South Carolina?
It was South Carolina who makes that happen. They're known for defense.
That is a very good point. But actually, to that point, their offense was cooking. And I don't think we've seen as much of a dominant performance as they showed in the SEC. And bringing that into March with that on your back, I think it's scary hours for them. Scary hours. Yeah.
Well, now flipping it over to the ACC, head coach Carol Lawson led Duke to their first ACC tournament championship since 2013. I absolutely love this. If y'all don't know who Carol Lawson is, please go look her up. Please go look up her pregame talks on YouTube. She is absolutely amazing. But on their way to the final, they upset NC State and Notre Dame, which...
I, some people would say they didn't expect to be honest. I was in Orlando. I called up somebody who could bet here because of the Ontario betting laws and not break any rules. And I said, Duke is going to be Notre Dame. It just looks like that. They seem very inconsistent to me. It's just, I don't know. I have thoughts on this, but I want to start.
Okay. Logan, you called that. I did.
Afterwards. I was like, wait, yes. Like Duke money line, Duke spread. I love it. But I want to start with Duke. How big is this win for them? And Carol Lawson. Huge, huge.
You know, Kara Lawson, I've had the pleasure of getting to know her. She's excellent. She was excellent as a player, excellent as a broadcaster. And now moving into greatness as a coach, this is a huge pillar for her program. And Duke came in, they were at the bottom, coached them through a pandemic. And in five years, now has them back at the top of the ACC at winning the tournament.
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Chapter 4: Should Notre Dame be concerned heading into March Madness?
It's the fact that Coach Ivy, there's reports from media that they've had to wait for the team to leave the locker room post-game, these losses, over an hour. That's a lot of talking, you know? And on one hand, I understand that Neal Ivy is trying to just impress urgency on her team so that they don't miss the moment that's right here for them.
But on the other hand, I feel like it's March, you know? And this isn't a team that needs to be talked into some kind of miracle. Like, they have every single thing they need to be a championship team. And ultimately, I think that the talk and the rally has to come from the Notre Dame players and the team themselves.
You can't just be a team that's beating your chest and talking big and all this and that when things are going well. You don't want to be a frontrunner. Like, you are being challenged right now. This is real adversity, and you're heading into a one-and-done scenario. So y'all got to double down on who you are. And I think that's what they got away from, their identity as a team that's defensive,
High energy, confident, has defense that creates offense and they can create high tempo, up tempo, pace, energetic situations where they can really just showcase their toughness. So they've got to dig right now.
All I have to say to that is thoughts and prayers, quite literally. But the Unrivaled is also in their crunch time. All the basketball is heating up. We absolutely love to see it. But shout out to Steph Curry, who was just named as the latest investor. Steph Curry, you are Unrivaled.
Stephen Curry is unrivaled. Every time I see these announcements, I feel like it's like, so-and-so is unrivaled. But this is a big one. This is like a nod at the end of the season where it's like people got to view the unrivaled season, see what it was, and then was like, Yeah.
Oh, I need to tap in.
I need to tap. Exactly. And, you know, a shout out to Stephen Curry because he's been investing in the woman's game. And this is just continues the path that he's on.
Yeah. And with that, the seedings are locked in for playoffs with the Lunar Owls clinching the number one seed. Then we have Rose at number two, Laces in three, and then Vinyl secured the fourth seed on Monday night. So. The Lunar Owls are heavy fan favorites. They have been fan favorites for pretty much the whole season.
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Chapter 5: Who are the favorites in the Unrivaled Playoffs?
her jump shot she's got a great shooting touch um rarely off balance you know she's just confident and and just one of the many scoring options on this team because there's Kayla McBride McBuckets there's Tiffany Hayes you know Dolson uh could come in there and make impact and obviously Alyssa Thomas does a bit of everything so look out for the laces um
I mean, look out for the whole playoffs, man. The thing about the playoffs, it's one game. It's one game. This ain't a three game or five game series. You got to win two games to get to the chip. So these are some of the top players in the world. Any one of these teams can win two games and win a chip.
Not gonna lie, while you're talking about Jackie, I had to do a little Google search on how old she is, because she's playing like a vet, but then she has the young look to her, and honestly, it's the perfect age. She's 27. Wow.
Maybe she's on a vitamin regimen, too.
Maybe. I might actually have to DM her and be like, hey, you have the D3K2? Anyways. All right. Coming up, Roz sits down with WNBA and unrivaled guard Jordan Canada. I'm very excited for that one, so we'll be right back.
Hey, what's up, Goodfollow? We are coming to you from Miami at the Unrivaled campus. As you know, I'm your girl, Roz Goldonbude. And today we have a delightful guest. I'm going to do some accolades because she's a two-time WNBA champion. She will be seen with the Atlanta Dream. And here at Unrivaled, she's part of Team Vinyl. Don't play with her. She will lock you up.
This is a two-time all-first team defensive selection, two-time steals leader in the WNBA. When she was at UCLA, she was the Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year. You don't play about defense. I don't play about deed. I get down. Jordan Canada joins the show. What's up, Jordan? What's up? Thank you for having me. I'm so happy to have you. Thank you. You've been having aura, girl.
You've been hooping. Thank you. I'm trying. You've really been finishing Unrivaled strong here. And, you know, we've met before and spoken. Coach Teresa Weatherspoon said she told you as you go, Team Vinyl will go. Like, how much do you feel like your game has expanded and grown here at Unrivaled?
I think it's just given me the opportunity to just keep my confidence, to be honest. Playing with such talented women and the level of competitiveness every game, it just makes you want to be better. It makes you want to go hard.
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Chapter 6: What insights does Jordin Canada share about her career?
How to be a pro, to be honest. Like, Coming into the gym, she's there early getting her shots up. Even after practice, she's getting her shots up. She's taking care of her body. She's doing the things that she needed to do to make sure that she's ready for a game.
And I always remember my first couple of practices, my rookie year, she came up to me and she was basically like, don't try to be like me. Be you. Be yourself. There's a reason why you're here. And that's something that always stuck to me. Like, don't try to go outside myself. Just try to be who I am. And that, like I said, that has stuck with me.
And just watching her day in and day out, how she communicates with the team, how she communicates. She talks, but what she says, like you really listen to what she's saying. And her brain is just like, her IQ is just out the window. Just seeing some of the things that she says, like in timeouts, like she knows what's going to happen before it happens.
And so just learning those little nuances of how I can add that to my game, but be different in a different way. So I've learned so many things from Sue, so I'm very grateful for that.
Yeah, I mean, you have an opportunity to see that you don't got to be the loudest, but what you say has to be powerful and meaningful. You have the opportunity here at Unrivaled to learn from another great in Teresa Weatherspoon as your coach. How is Spoon helping you?
Spoon has helped me tremendously. I have never had a coach just speak so much life into you day in and day out, no matter the situation, no matter if we're winning, losing, just the energy that she brings. It makes me like want to go like we don't even in a practice. She could be talking in a huddle and it just makes you want to play. It just makes you want to go hard.
And those are the type of coaches that you love. want to run through a wall for. And she does it with every single one of us. And to be honest, I know she if she does it with us, I know she's done it with all her players. And like I said, just the life that she breathes into you, the confidence and the encouragement that she's constantly giving you.
it's something that I'm truly grateful for and that I love that I have in this moment and in Unrivaled because it has helped me.
In the beginning, I was still trying to get a feel for the three-on-three, and then having her as my coach this whole time is just, like I said, has breathed life into me, has breathed life into my game, has made me confident, and hopefully we can continue to keep building that relationship going into the W season. So you feel that you have your confidence. You have your joy. I do have my joy.
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