Julie Kelly
Appearances
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
Hey, Charlie, what an amazing day yesterday. And thank you for your help with this historic decision, courageous decision that the president made. It's really amazing to see the videos on acts of people being released from federal prison after all these years. So thank you and thank you to the president for including me in that process. And I hope we can toast in person one of these days, Charlie.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
So the pardon, as the president said during the signing ceremony last night, is a full pardon. So that applies to close to now 1,600 J6 defendants. There was a carve out there, Charlie, for 14 individuals whose sentences have now been commuted. And those were all members or associates of the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
And I believe that he said that those cases will be reviewed also for pardons. And I believe His final decision will be similar to what we saw yesterday, pardoning those individuals, many of whom were convicted of seditious conspiracy, which is a terrorism statute usually reserved, Charlie, for real terrorists, not political protesters. So I'm sure the president will reach the same decision.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
And then what's happening today, Charlie, there were several J6-related court proceedings in Washington scheduled for today. including one case going to the jury for a verdict. And you have the new DC U.S. attorney, Ed Martin, who I believe that you know, who is a friend of mine, and he's already filing motions to dismiss those indictments. And I know that judges were forced to do that today.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
And boy, I wish I was there to have seen those judges have to drop those cases. That would have been another incredible moment.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
And Charlie, that obviously was something you were very adamant about is emphasizing the lack of due process, the constitutional rights violations at play in this prosecution. So that is, of course, something that we added to the consideration. And I know that the president himself is fully aware of what these prosecutors and judges have been doing for more than four years.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
But I think the most egregious violation is that judges systematically for three years, Charlie, as we discussed, denied every single change of venue motion filed by every J6 defendant arguing that they could still get a fair trial in a city most entirely populated by Democrats and not just Democrats, Trump loathing radical left-wing Democrats who view the events of January 6th as they do compare it to 9-11.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
I have sat in some of those jury selections. You cannot believe what the residents of Washington, D.C. think about January 6th. So the judges would claim, OK, well, we'll go through this Wadir process. We'll really, you know, drill down into their political views about Donald Trump and January 6th. No, they didn't. They didn't do that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
And so it resulted in the DOJ having this perfect conviction rate after now almost three years of trials. So that right there is an indication that these J6ers did not have their constitutional rights of an impartial jury, going before an impartial jury.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
And certainly the judges were a big part of that, but also withholding discovery, Brady materials, exculpatory evidence, concealing the use of not just FBI informants, but other undercover agents from numerous law enforcement agencies. So there were so many things just systematically happening there. That resulted in more than a thousand going to federal prison.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
So I know that that was part of your strong argument, not that we needed to. Again, the president was on board. But I think just developing the argument and the record for this extraordinary measure that he took yesterday.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
Because to your point, the easy one, the low-hanging fruit, and I think what a lot of people thought was going to happen, and CNN and the Washington Post actually erroneously reported this a few hours before he issued that pardon, is, okay, we'll just dismiss the counts, pardon those who were convicted or accused of the four or five common misdemeanors, which is still hundreds of people.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
And then we'll go case by case for the 300 or so with those federal, it's 111 charges, assault, interfering, impeding certain officers. So I think that's what everyone was sort of suggesting. And you know this, Charlie, pressure from Republicans in Congress. We had U.S.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
senators very strongly come out during Pam Bondi's confirmation hearing, Tom Tillis and Lindsey Graham, very unequivocally saying, There should not be pardons for anyone accused of assaulting police. So this was such a courageous decision by President Trump. I really want to emphasize that this was not an easy thing for him to do, but he did it because it's the right thing.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
And he feels personally passionate about restoring justice and making these people whole.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
So he issued pardons for not just the members, so Benny Thompson and Adam Kinzinger, of course, Liz Cheney, but the staffers. So this would be the investigators. I think they hired a dozen federal former prosecutors, Charlie, to interrogate 1,000-plus witnesses, mostly Trump White House employees.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
They're all pardoned, but the real outrage, Charlie, is pardoning what I call the four J6 celebrity cops, Mike Fanone, Aquilina Ganel, Harry Dunn, and Daniel Hodges, who not only committed perjury under their sworn testimony during that first hearing in July of 2021, they have showed up as victims and witnesses in J6 hearings and trials and sentencing.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
begging judges to throw the book at Jay Sixers based on the lies about their injuries or what they saw or what they endured. All four of them committed perjury multiple times. And that is proven by the fact that Joe Biden has had to issue a pardon to exonerate them. They caused arguably more damage to Jay Sixers than Liz Cheney and that committee.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
Really a despicable move by Joe Biden on top of so many.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
There has not. And the criminal defense attorneys have said this to me. They've said it in court motions. There is nothing comparable. And I think one big indication is having that reversal, Charlie, of the 1512 C-2 count. John Strand can talk to that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
That post-Enron obstruction that was overturned by the Supreme Court in June, saying that the DOJ wrongfully applied that statute in 300 plus cases. Nonetheless, the DOJ, DC U.S. Attorney Matthew Graves at the time, pushing forward with trying to make that charge stick, even after the Supreme Court overturned them. This was a rogue, reckless, destructive political persecution.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
And Charlie, people have to pay for what they have done. This cannot be the last word on the travesty of the J6 defendants. Those in charge, Matthew Graves, Lisa Monaco, even Merrick Garland, have to be held accountable for the lives that they have destroyed or tried to destroy over the past four years under the Capitol siege prosecution.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
Hey, Andrew. Yes, it's been way too long. I thought maybe I was on a blacklist, like you guys were Fox News and you won't have me on.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
So quickly, Joe Biden's Department of Justice, Matthew Graves, the D.C. U.S. attorney, a Biden appointee who was handling the J6 caseload, Andrew not only continues to ask for jury trials, and he's getting them, D.C. judges, believe it or not, continuing to put Trump supporters almost four years later before a jury made of D.C. voters who just voted 93% for Kamala Harris.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
So not only are they continuing jury trials, they're still asking for people to go to jail, even on those petty offenses that you're talking about, low-level misdemeanors. And they're arresting people. I think they arrested four or five people this week.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
And what the DOJ has argued, and most of the federal judges with maybe one or two exceptions, is that President Trump's promise of a pardon has no impact on the judicial branch. These judges are saying we are independent. This is a separation of powers issue. If the president comes out on January 20th, He pardons everyone, so be it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
But until then, we are marching forward with these cases as if they're legitimate and nothing is going to happen. Not only is President Trump going to pardon J6ers, but also he's appointed a new attorney general, and he will probably shut down the entire J6 investigation and prosecution on day one or at least the first week. So even the new indictments will go away. This is how desperate they are.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
Andrew, to maintain the crumbling J6 narrative. But even more despicable is continuing to put Trump supporters in jail and on trial. So yes, that piece at Real Clear Investigations, I quote several judges for what they are saying about this, as well as the Biden DOJ.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
So the biggest name, of course, is Matthew Graves, the D.C. U.S. attorney, the Biden appointee. He is the one primarily responsible for advancing all of these cases and bringing new charges against J6ers. There are plenty of line prosecutors involved. I'd rather not name their names, but I will. I am internally doing that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
And I only do that because I don't want to get accused of something, of bringing any sort of threats against these line prosecutors, even though they are government employees. But Matthew Graves was appointed by the Senate, by Biden. He was approved by the Senate in November of 2021.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
not only is he continuing to bring charges, recall he is the one that brought the contempt of Congress charges against both Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro. In fact, Matthew Graves' first act as DC U.S. Attorney was to indict Steve Bannon and then ask for excessive prison sentences for both Bannon and Navarro. So he is really the villain in the J6 prosecution. Now the judges
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
Nothing happens in these cases, Andrew, without the imprimatur of the D.C. judges. And those names I will name. Former Chief Judge Beryl Howell, an Obama appointee, an unabashed Trump hater. The comments that she makes in court and in public speaking engagements should automatically disqualify her from handling any matters related to Donald Trump. Beryl Howell, B-E-R-Y-L Howell.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
She was the chief judge for seven years. She oversaw Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation, was a rubber stamp there. She also handled the initial investigation, DOJ into Donald Trump for classified documents and January 6th, again, another rubber stamp. And she really helped set the tone for how that D.C. courthouse was going to handle Jay Sixers. So I would name her Royce Lamberth.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
A Reagan appointee, if you can believe it, Andrew, 81 years old. I've seen him in court. He can't get out of his chair without help. He uses a walker. He routinely falls asleep during court proceedings, but he is one of the most vicious and vengeful judges. In fact, a few weeks ago, he took the unusual move. A man who was convicted of four misdemeanors, no violence.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
He was inside the building for like 15 or 20 minutes. sentenced him to a year in prison. Now, Andrew, usually what happens after sentencing, defendants have two to three months before they have to report, unless it's a really violent crime. Lamberth took the unusual move of remanding this man into custody immediately. Four weeks before Christmas, a non-violent J6-er
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
because he wanted that man to spend time in jail. And he knew that if there were pardons on day one, this individual probably would fall into that category. Tim Kelly, a Trump appointed judge, former federal prosecutor oversaw the Proud Boys trial allowed seditious conspiracy charges to go forward against those individuals. Of course, they were convicted.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
Ahmet Mehta, another Obama appointee, not only did he handle all the Oath Keepers trials and again allow seditious conspiracy charges to go against those men, he also is handling a civil lawsuit filed by members of Congress and Capitol Police officers against Donald Trump.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
Pretty much every single judge there, but those are the ones that pop into my head that have been the most relentless against Jay Sixers and Donald Trump. But furthermore, Andrew, violating their oath of office by denying due process rights of defendants and failing to protect defendants from the overreach of the government, which is their top job.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
Andrew, I am pushing publicly and behind the scenes to make sure that these defendants convicted of seditious conspiracy, which Americans have never been convicted of, Andrew, this usually is a charge reserved for foreign terrorists like the Blind Sheikh and his accomplices in the first bombing of the World Trade Center.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
The government brought seditious conspiracy charges, not about a bunch of guys. who entered a government building nonviolently. The Oath Keepers were there as former law enforcement and military to help police. We have video of Oath Keepers helping police inside of saying prayers in the rotunda. They weren't committing violence. But yet these judges, Judge Kelly, Judge Ahmed Mehta,
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
allowing this rare charge to go against these defendants, knowing they would get easy convictions before DC juries. I think only one or two of them were acquitted of the seditious conspiracy charge. I think there were a couple in the Oath Keepers. They were convicted of other charges, though.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
Enrique Tarrio, 22 years in prison. Stuart Rhodes, head of the Oath Keepers, 16 years in prison. Enrique Tarrio, the head of the Proud Boys. He was in Baltimore on January 6th. He wasn't even there. Convicted of seditious conspiracy, 22 years in prison. Ethan Nordean, who is seen on video walking through doors on the Senate wing side with Capitol Police officers right there.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
Ethan Nordean commits no violence, 14 years in prison. as a member of the Proud Boys. These were nothing but show trials. So the DOJ, the Biden regime, and the media could say this was an attempted insurrection.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
So first of all, I don't believe that there were only 26 FBI informants in Washington on January 6th. No one I know, defense attorneys... Defendants, researchers who've been intimately involved in the court proceedings and the cases, they don't believe that figure either. So Michael Horowitz in his report said he reviewed what the government gave him, what DOJ gave him.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
Well, does anyone believe that the DOJ turned over all of their files about FBI informants, especially in the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, that are under very strict protective orders in these cases? Does anyone think Chris Wray turned those files over to Michael Horowitz? Of course he didn't.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
Furthermore, I had defense attorneys texting me yesterday saying when they were trying to get information about FBI informants, especially in these bigger groups, the government would tell them, well, we don't have a database of confidential human sources. Really, each field office compiles that information. There's 56 FBI field offices, but there's no central database.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
So how did Michael Horowitz come up with this 26 figure? And how does he know for a fact? He said 23 went on their own accord. We're really supposed to believe that? No, of course not. 88 pages, very thin, a lot of filler in there from Michael Horowitz. Another disappointing effort from Michael Horowitz. I really believe Donald Trump should fire him. He's an Obama appointee.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
The American public deserves detailed answers about the DOJ and FBI's role in January 6th. Chris Wray has lied under oath. Merrick Garland has lied under oath. They have prevaricated on these answers. And now we know this is a little tidbit from Horowitz's I'm sure Kash Patel will follow up more specifically and expose a lot more. But in the process, Michael Horowitz needs to go.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
This is so short on facts and details. And this is one of the biggest questions Americans have about January 6th.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
They absolutely did, Andrew. This came out during the trials of the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers. I mean, the government stipulated, DOJ admitted in the Proud Boys, the first seditious conspiracy trial, that they had at least nine FBI informants embedded in that group before and on January 6th.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
A testimony from a government witness, I believe it was an FBI agent, said in those very group chats you're talking about, there were probably close to two dozen FBI informants in those group chats ginning up,
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
their target the proud boys right not saying hey guys let's not do this we're just sitting there silently they were actively involved in those chats so this again uh only scratches the surface we've seen what has come out in these trials uh and there's a lot more no one should believe that 26 figure that Horowitz came up with fascinating Julie Kelly
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
Wow, Dan. And speechless at your introduction there. Thank you. No, it's true. But our reporting goes nowhere without big platforms like yours. And you are as courageous as any of us in helping deconstruct this and bring this to all of your millions of followers and listeners. So I really thank you. So if I get any award, which I won't, I will share it with you and Jim.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
There's no doubt. And actually what had happened earlier in the day, Dan, is that I broke the story of a new house report. It's 80 some odd pages, representative louder milk and Massey who talk about how there was initially a very aggressive investigation into the pipe bomber. They put 50 agents on the investigation. They interviewed a thousand witnesses.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
They looked at 40,000 hours of clips that were turned in. They had 500 tips, uh, They were going to retailers asking for information about the sale of those Nike shoes. They were asking retailers for information about some of the components that were used in these alleged devices.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
Then all of a sudden, Dan, February of 2021, less than two months after this pipe bomber almost blew up Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelosi and police officers and passersby, The investigation went cold. They basically stopped looking for the pipe bomber. So to your point and what you were talking about earlier and what we've talked about, that is a highly suspicious angle. Why did they stop looking?
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
They probably identified who it was, who that suspect was working for. And then all of a sudden they decided not to pursue anything.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
So there were two cameras that the FBI relied on, um, for the suspect outside of the DNC. And that was the DNC security footage.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
I know you'll all, you already know this, but your listeners will be shocked to hear that the exact location, the two benches, the shrub outside of the DNC headquarters, oddly in the most surveilled city in the world, somehow the camera pointing at where the bomb was planted, wasn't working or there wasn't one or some, you know, something weird.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
So the FBI relied on, we're told these, the security system on the DNC. Well, you have two different angles, two different cameras. One, which is the one that Darren Beatty has exposed as moving at one frame per second, which is like 1950 era technology. But then Dan, the other camera that they have footage from allegedly footage from is moves at a much faster pace.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
So why is the one angle, and this is related to the quote-unquote new footage that they released last week, why is that camera at one frame per second when the other camera is not?
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
Well, what the FBI did and stupidly thought no one would catch it, which we did, is they slowed down the frame rate on the faster camera to make it look like it was in sync from the two different angles of the pipe bomber allegedly setting the device down. So of course we found that and expose that as well.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
But what Darren has suggested in, you know, this too, is that because it's at one frame per second, that lends itself to easily doctoring the video even more. So Dan, this footage, the D the FBI has had since early 2021, because at that time in March of 2021, they posted a clip from that camera angle. at 7.43 when the pipe bomber sat down and used his phone.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
So all of a sudden, magically, they have a new clip from the same camera angle just nine minutes later, but they release it the day after House Republicans blow open their phony investigation and their stonewalling by the FBI and misrepresentations by the guy who headed the investigation, Stephen D'Antuano. So, I mean, this is, again, they think that they're
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
convincing somebody, I don't know who, but all they do every time they post something or talk about it is give us more fodder for the belief that this was an inside job.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
Exactly right. And, you know, and it's not just that this suspect put the device outside the DNC. We're told that the same suspect planted the device the night before in an alleyway between the RNC headquarters and Capitol Hill Club. So we're also supposed to believe that both of those devices were laying there, especially the DNC one, in plain sight for 18 hours.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
before they just happened to be discovered around the same time the joint session of Congress convened at 1 o'clock, around the same time as the Ray Epps breach, the exterior line on the west side of the Capitol. All of this is just a huge coincidence. You know, yes, it's OK. Bomb sniffing canines twice missed the device sitting outside the DNC. Sure. OK. We're supposed to believe that, too.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
Numerous police officers from at least three departments, Capitol Police, D.C. Metro and Secret Service also missed. You know, the DNC pipe bomb was in plain sight, Dan. We've seen the pictures of it. I mean, even the funny video that the FBI released last week, I had to laugh at because you know that they highlighted, they turned it white, the device that was sitting there.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
Again, you are owning yourself because it's clearly visible from many angles. So we're supposed to believe it was set there at 7.53, January 5th, and it wasn't discovered until 1.05 p.m. the next day.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
So, yes, what you are putting together, this full account of all the discrepancies and all the lies and covers up, that is why that's why we need FBI Director Kash Patel, because I don't think that he's going to be buying any of these stories that the current FBI is throwing out there to the public.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
I mean, that could be it, but I definitely think it is to try to get ahead, to make it look like their investigation was serious. When we know by all evidence that it would, it was wrapped up in February of 2021, uh, wrapped up with, with no suspect identified, uh, all the lies that have been told. But I do think the release of that was to downplay the report that was issued.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
And I think just growing speculation, and suspicion, rightfully so, that that individual, whether it was planted the night before, whether it was planted that morning, whether it was planted moments before, as the DNC video appears to demonstrate, that that was, you know, that no, that's not the case. This was a real pipe bomber, and here's a new clip to show you why.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
God knows what he comes up with.
The Dan Bongino Show
Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
You're the best, Dan. Thanks so much.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
Well, I hate to disagree with you, but I'm going to go with the latter because, of course, I have covered, especially in Washington, D.C., and I've talked about with you guys what's happened with the J6 proceedings in Washington and the case against the president. These judges feel impervious. And they have not been held accountable when chief justice that really inappropriate. I think.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
About impeachment, not his place. Number one, the problem is not that impeachment is thrown around or overused. The problem is that impeachment has not been used. I think 14 federal judges have been impeached. Only eight have been convicted. Congress has completely advocated its oversight role of the federal judiciary. So this is how you get Jim Bosberg.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
And this is how you get time to check him and barrel Howell and these other judges, because they know they're not accountable. So until these judges are held accountable and not by being reversed by the Supreme court, I saw that in the immunity case. I saw that in the Fisher, the overturning of the 15, 12 B two, um, against J sixers. These lower court judges don't care.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
And if they're Democrats, they don't think that the Supreme court is legitimate anyway. So this is a serious crisis. This is by the public's trust in the federal judiciary is at an all time low and Republicans who are threatening to file articles in speech.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
And I think some have been filed or to strip jurisdiction from some of the most egregious political actors on the bench, or simply to shut down the DC. federal court system, which I've advocated for years. Strong measures need to be taken. Otherwise, this is going to actually help
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
They are. And they're completely undermining. And these are all related to presidential executive orders. So what you're talking about is Anna Reyes, who is the first LGBTQ Biden-appointed district court judge in Washington, basically reversing, vacating the president's executive order on transgenders in the military.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
Royce Lambert, a Reagan appointee, who I watched just absolutely throw the book at Jay Sixers, throwing grandmothers in prison for 57 months. on the obstruction count that was later overturned. And he himself rejecting the president's executive order and ordering the government, us, to pay for hormone therapy and transitional surgery for these transgender judges who are in prison.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
These are criminals, right? We're not just paying, you know, for whoever wants it. They are in federal custody. And then, of course, Jim Bosberg ordering verbally for the Department of Justice and DHS to return flights that were already in the air out of U.S.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
airspace, very likely traveling over either Mexico or Central America, ordering the return of those flights carrying known illegal immigrants for suspected Venezuelan terrorists tied to that PDA day. Who do these judges think that they are? And so now what Gosberg is doing is, I think, setting up a contempt trap because he was saying, well, I made this verbal order.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
You should have turned the planes around. No plane should have taken off that day at all because I was holding this hearing, and this is a temporary restraining order that he issued, actually two of them, on Saturday that will last 14 days. And, again, preventing the president and his team from executing his proclamation over the weekend of the – Alien enemies asked.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
So, excuse me, this is very reckless, very destructive and dangerous. No one should be defending what these judges are doing. Now, of course, all of these are going on appeal. There's oral arguments in the Venezuelan terrorist case on Monday afternoon. I'll be covering that live. But I'll tell you, as bad as I knew these judges were,
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
and how they just repeatedly denied SharePoint due process for J6ers, refusing in every single case to move those trials out of Washington, D.C., to now see them leap to the rescue and allegedly protect the quote-unquote due process rights of illegal and suspected gang members from Venezuela that pose a legitimate threat to this country, not that J6ers did, it's pretty head-spinning hypocrisy.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
Yes, I will say that I am, as you guys know, I talked to the president a few days before inauguration day, talked to him for at length about what had happened to the G sixers. Um, you know, the various part in proposals he expressed, he was very committed to blanket pardon with a few exceptions. And that's of course exactly what. He did.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
And there was some noise about it for what a week or 10 days. And then, uh, has completely disappeared. And the Democrats even want to forget about January 6th. I think it was Jamie Raskin said a few weeks ago, oh, can we stop talking about January 6th already?
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
Right. Yeah. But yes, I am very surprised, but happily so. And, you know, it's great to see these people starting to pick up the pieces of their lives. But, you know, I was reading one of the filings today in the Venezuelan terrorism case, and These illegals have stables of lawyers defending them and fighting the government on behalf of the alleged rights that these illegals have.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
And it's really disturbing that we saw none of that for American citizens wrongly prosecuted for participating in the events of January 6th. I mean, this whole legal judicial system is so upside down.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
Absolutely not. Most of them defend it relied on public defenders. Some of those public defenders were very good. Others were terrible. And I saw, I saw both sides to that. Um, but going back to Jeff Bosberg, I was in a courtroom in December, the week before Christmas, he put a woman who went inside the Capitol for nine minutes, committed no violence charge with four misdemeanors.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
He put her on trial the week before Christmas before DC jury, jurors from a city that had just voted 92% for Kamala Harris. He completely ignored her pleas to postpone the trial until after the president was inaugurated, uh, knowing that she would be getting a pardon because of course she only had misdemeanors and he denied postponing that trial, put her on trial for three days.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
She was immediately convicted by the CC jury. Um, so that, That's the mindset of these judges. No due process, no protection of constitutional rights for American citizens because they're Trump supporters.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
But he swooped in Saturday as soon as he possibly could, ordering planes to be turned around, carrying Venezuelan terrorists, and now fighting the government for disclosure details of those deportations. I mean, how can you... How can the government deal with someone like that? You can't.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
There were no elite white shoe law firms that stepped up to defend a single J6er, not one. Again, there were some very good lawyers, some that were retained privately, most that were court-appointed or public defenders. but not a single. You see all of these law firms lined up, not just defending these terrorists, but fighting the Trump administration on anything. These are all big name law firms.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
None of them stepped up for American citizens because they considered them terrorists. You know, the Venezuelan gang members with tattoos all over the place who have suspected ties to TDA, they're not terrorists. They're victims. But You walk inside the Capitol for nine minutes, commit no violence, and you have the chief judge of the D.C.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
District Court putting you on trial in the most democratic city in the country for a quick conviction. So, no, none of them did. So shame on these law firms.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
And this is why I'm so glad to see the president doing what he can to vilify these law firms, strip them of security clearances, access to documents and buildings, and doing, yes, damage to their business because that's exactly what they deserve.
Verdict with Ted Cruz
Bonus: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Mar 20 2025
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