Julie Kelly
Appearances
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
Hey, Andrew. Yes, it's been way too long. I thought maybe I was on a blacklist, like you guys were Fox News and you won't have me on.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
So quickly, Joe Biden's Department of Justice, Matthew Graves, the D.C. U.S. attorney, a Biden appointee who was handling the J6 caseload, Andrew not only continues to ask for jury trials, and he's getting them, D.C. judges, believe it or not, continuing to put Trump supporters almost four years later before a jury made of D.C. voters who just voted 93% for Kamala Harris.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
So not only are they continuing jury trials, they're still asking for people to go to jail, even on those petty offenses that you're talking about, low-level misdemeanors. And they're arresting people. I think they arrested four or five people this week.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
And what the DOJ has argued, and most of the federal judges with maybe one or two exceptions, is that President Trump's promise of a pardon has no impact on the judicial branch. These judges are saying we are independent. This is a separation of powers issue. If the president comes out on January 20th, He pardons everyone, so be it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
But until then, we are marching forward with these cases as if they're legitimate and nothing is going to happen. Not only is President Trump going to pardon J6ers, but also he's appointed a new attorney general, and he will probably shut down the entire J6 investigation and prosecution on day one or at least the first week. So even the new indictments will go away. This is how desperate they are.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
Andrew, to maintain the crumbling J6 narrative. But even more despicable is continuing to put Trump supporters in jail and on trial. So yes, that piece at Real Clear Investigations, I quote several judges for what they are saying about this, as well as the Biden DOJ.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
So the biggest name, of course, is Matthew Graves, the D.C. U.S. attorney, the Biden appointee. He is the one primarily responsible for advancing all of these cases and bringing new charges against J6ers. There are plenty of line prosecutors involved. I'd rather not name their names, but I will. I am internally doing that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
And I only do that because I don't want to get accused of something, of bringing any sort of threats against these line prosecutors, even though they are government employees. But Matthew Graves was appointed by the Senate, by Biden. He was approved by the Senate in November of 2021.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
not only is he continuing to bring charges, recall he is the one that brought the contempt of Congress charges against both Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro. In fact, Matthew Graves' first act as DC U.S. Attorney was to indict Steve Bannon and then ask for excessive prison sentences for both Bannon and Navarro. So he is really the villain in the J6 prosecution. Now the judges
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
Nothing happens in these cases, Andrew, without the imprimatur of the D.C. judges. And those names I will name. Former Chief Judge Beryl Howell, an Obama appointee, an unabashed Trump hater. The comments that she makes in court and in public speaking engagements should automatically disqualify her from handling any matters related to Donald Trump. Beryl Howell, B-E-R-Y-L Howell.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
She was the chief judge for seven years. She oversaw Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation, was a rubber stamp there. She also handled the initial investigation, DOJ into Donald Trump for classified documents and January 6th, again, another rubber stamp. And she really helped set the tone for how that D.C. courthouse was going to handle Jay Sixers. So I would name her Royce Lamberth.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
A Reagan appointee, if you can believe it, Andrew, 81 years old. I've seen him in court. He can't get out of his chair without help. He uses a walker. He routinely falls asleep during court proceedings, but he is one of the most vicious and vengeful judges. In fact, a few weeks ago, he took the unusual move. A man who was convicted of four misdemeanors, no violence.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
He was inside the building for like 15 or 20 minutes. sentenced him to a year in prison. Now, Andrew, usually what happens after sentencing, defendants have two to three months before they have to report, unless it's a really violent crime. Lamberth took the unusual move of remanding this man into custody immediately. Four weeks before Christmas, a non-violent J6-er
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
because he wanted that man to spend time in jail. And he knew that if there were pardons on day one, this individual probably would fall into that category. Tim Kelly, a Trump appointed judge, former federal prosecutor oversaw the Proud Boys trial allowed seditious conspiracy charges to go forward against those individuals. Of course, they were convicted.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
Ahmet Mehta, another Obama appointee, not only did he handle all the Oath Keepers trials and again allow seditious conspiracy charges to go against those men, he also is handling a civil lawsuit filed by members of Congress and Capitol Police officers against Donald Trump.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
Pretty much every single judge there, but those are the ones that pop into my head that have been the most relentless against Jay Sixers and Donald Trump. But furthermore, Andrew, violating their oath of office by denying due process rights of defendants and failing to protect defendants from the overreach of the government, which is their top job.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
Andrew, I am pushing publicly and behind the scenes to make sure that these defendants convicted of seditious conspiracy, which Americans have never been convicted of, Andrew, this usually is a charge reserved for foreign terrorists like the Blind Sheikh and his accomplices in the first bombing of the World Trade Center.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
The government brought seditious conspiracy charges, not about a bunch of guys. who entered a government building nonviolently. The Oath Keepers were there as former law enforcement and military to help police. We have video of Oath Keepers helping police inside of saying prayers in the rotunda. They weren't committing violence. But yet these judges, Judge Kelly, Judge Ahmed Mehta,
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
allowing this rare charge to go against these defendants, knowing they would get easy convictions before DC juries. I think only one or two of them were acquitted of the seditious conspiracy charge. I think there were a couple in the Oath Keepers. They were convicted of other charges, though.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
Enrique Tarrio, 22 years in prison. Stuart Rhodes, head of the Oath Keepers, 16 years in prison. Enrique Tarrio, the head of the Proud Boys. He was in Baltimore on January 6th. He wasn't even there. Convicted of seditious conspiracy, 22 years in prison. Ethan Nordean, who is seen on video walking through doors on the Senate wing side with Capitol Police officers right there.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
Ethan Nordean commits no violence, 14 years in prison. as a member of the Proud Boys. These were nothing but show trials. So the DOJ, the Biden regime, and the media could say this was an attempted insurrection.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
So first of all, I don't believe that there were only 26 FBI informants in Washington on January 6th. No one I know, defense attorneys... Defendants, researchers who've been intimately involved in the court proceedings and the cases, they don't believe that figure either. So Michael Horowitz in his report said he reviewed what the government gave him, what DOJ gave him.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
Well, does anyone believe that the DOJ turned over all of their files about FBI informants, especially in the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, that are under very strict protective orders in these cases? Does anyone think Chris Wray turned those files over to Michael Horowitz? Of course he didn't.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
Furthermore, I had defense attorneys texting me yesterday saying when they were trying to get information about FBI informants, especially in these bigger groups, the government would tell them, well, we don't have a database of confidential human sources. Really, each field office compiles that information. There's 56 FBI field offices, but there's no central database.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
So how did Michael Horowitz come up with this 26 figure? And how does he know for a fact? He said 23 went on their own accord. We're really supposed to believe that? No, of course not. 88 pages, very thin, a lot of filler in there from Michael Horowitz. Another disappointing effort from Michael Horowitz. I really believe Donald Trump should fire him. He's an Obama appointee.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
The American public deserves detailed answers about the DOJ and FBI's role in January 6th. Chris Wray has lied under oath. Merrick Garland has lied under oath. They have prevaricated on these answers. And now we know this is a little tidbit from Horowitz's I'm sure Kash Patel will follow up more specifically and expose a lot more. But in the process, Michael Horowitz needs to go.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
This is so short on facts and details. And this is one of the biggest questions Americans have about January 6th.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
They absolutely did, Andrew. This came out during the trials of the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers. I mean, the government stipulated, DOJ admitted in the Proud Boys, the first seditious conspiracy trial, that they had at least nine FBI informants embedded in that group before and on January 6th.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
A testimony from a government witness, I believe it was an FBI agent, said in those very group chats you're talking about, there were probably close to two dozen FBI informants in those group chats ginning up,
The Charlie Kirk Show
What the Heck is Flying in the Skies over New Jersey?
their target the proud boys right not saying hey guys let's not do this we're just sitting there silently they were actively involved in those chats so this again uh only scratches the surface we've seen what has come out in these trials uh and there's a lot more no one should believe that 26 figure that Horowitz came up with fascinating Julie Kelly