Joe House
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The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Super realistic.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Well, you didn't have me on to help steer you, so there's no one to blame. You put one in your KC for that, Bill?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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I could have jumped on the phone.
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That would be... Milwaukee. Indiana. So...
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Detroit's making a push, by the way. Let's not rule out Detroit.
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Every time you put one out, I ride.
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We've done coaches before.
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Doesn't matter.
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So I quite love it. And I'll just interject quickly. I think it would be fine if we wanted to rename this worst contract. We just call it the Bradley Beal Memorial worst contract and just do it every year. Name this for Bradley Beal, like arguably one of the worst contracts in the history of bad contracts in the NBA.
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That was only $27 million.
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I begged for them to do that with John Wall when they gave John Wall the giant extension.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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The reason that Beal deserves this top billing is because he set two franchises back a grand total of how many years? It'll be at least 14 to 15 years if you add up the number of years that Washington is going to take to recover and be competitive and how long it will be before Phoenix is competitive again. That's truly amazing. You've got to give it up to Tommy Shepard for that one.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Right before the extension. It was before the extension.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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He definitely, Russell Westbrook single-handedly dragged the Wizards into the playoffs. So he played four games as they got their asses swept in that series. And then I don't know how many, has he played three, four games for the Suns?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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How's your next pick? Well, this is so I respect was because he's a traditionalist. He went with the OG here. This is an out of slightly out of left field. But, you know, this this guy changed. He altered the course of two franchises. Speaking of, you know, a five to 10 year recovery window for one franchise and another franchise that's going to enjoy.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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It should be at least another decade of prosperity. It's it's Nico Harrison. I mean, what Nico Harrison? I don't know how much money that man made. And I know that he is going to I hope he's beefing up on on the current offering of Nike sneakers or whatever, because that man is going to return to the sneaker business. He is. There is no franchise in the NBA that he can go to now.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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There are no more jobs for him in terms of of a front office. How do you tell your fan base? Yeah, well, even quietly. Yeah, we brought him in because he's got this relate. No, you know, no, no. This is his last job in a front office. And I keep looking for the definitive economic impacts like nobody's done the soup to nuts of of how much money it will cost the Dallas Mavericks just over the next.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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five years, I think it's going to take much longer than that for them to properly recover because of what happened to Kyrie. But at the very, very lowest conservative estimate, it is a billion dollars. It is a billion dollars in diminished value for that Dallas franchise. When you think about the impact on revenue from attendance, okay, fine. All of that is getting walloped.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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The revenue that they're going to get, they're an over-the-air franchise. you know, in their local broadcast. They don't have a regional sports network that they're on. They switched that. How are they going to get advertisers to pay anything for people to watch those games? Right. Merchandise partners. How do you tell them? What are you going to tell those people?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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So on down the line, you can go through six or seven or eight categories, the ways the team make money, the way that the teams have cash flow. Wallet, just take it right off. I think the ultimate economic impact is going to be between a billion and a half and two billion dollars.
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And think of how remarkable it is in this era where in every sport we look at them, we say the best investment that a rich person can make is in a professional sports franchise because no franchise ever goes down in value. This motherfucker. Look at the alchemy he performed here. He took the golden goose and turned it into a golden pile of shit. Magnificent.
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That is the worst contract in professional basketball.
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No, no, no, no, no. Nobody will ever rival Bradley Beal. We really should change the name of this. Bradley Beal has a no trade clause. Like the impact of the Bradley Beal contract on the face of the league over the last, you know, seven or eight years. Just unbelievable. Mind-blowing, dearly.
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I have a question. I have a serious question because that trade was immediately followed by the Lakers trying to acquire Mark Williams and then for whatever reason having cold feet about that. You mean when they backed out?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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They used the physical. Dallas acquired a hurt player and then got him hurt. And somehow he passed the physical. So I would like at some point to understand. Oh, I like this house.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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You've also set open to the entire league the possibility that Luke is available. Let's see that auction. Let's see how the rest of the league responds to that. Let's have a proper. I thought there was a possibility. I put it in the text threads within the first 12 hours that there was this crazy Machiavellian play. I wish that that's what had come to pass.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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But what Dallas did is prove to all of us. They showed their ass in terms of their inability to run very basic downside cases. Like, here's the hope for outcome.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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kairi's awesome ad's injury is behind him we have all these giant guys we're going to be good and um we're going to really compete this year then we have a window but the downside case that any sensible like rational business person would conduct is what happens if ad's injury is is lingering or you know um can't be overcome quickly How does that impact the rest of the team?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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How does that impact directly Kyrie? What's our assessment of the injury risk to Kyrie going forward? What happened to Dallas is not extraordinary. It's the downside case. But now, now the rational basketball response, the only thing that would make sense and possibly win the fans back, they got to throw Niko into the bushes. They got to trade AD. Niko needs to move.
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Yeah, I'm betting on it. No way.
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No way. Yeah. Absolutely not.
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Well, I mean, gambling on it and it coming to pass are two different things. Of course I'll gamble on it. I'm kidding.
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Under any circumstances. Can you remind me, you did this outstanding podcast with the executive producer of White Lotus, David Bernard. And he described this phenomena. He said one of the best pieces of advice he ever got was from, I can't remember who the famous person was that gave him this advice. It had to do with, you know, you get inside of, was it the monkey cage? What was it?
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It was inside.
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You grow so acclimated to the smell of the shit that you cannot identify that there's a bad thing, that you're in a bad environment situation. So for me, the problem with the Sixers goes all the way back to... to what I will forever argue was an ill-advised and ill-conceived return to the playoffs by Embiid. He wasn't ready. He wasn't healthy. We know this. Waz is right.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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He had a 50-point game in the first game in Philadelphia. I went up there and watched it. It was awesome. But he also had many dramatic moments where he went down on the floor and stayed on the floor for several minutes and then went to the locker room and then came back.
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That whole situation of him coming back to the playoffs and playing under the highest leverage situation in the shape that he was in with his knee and the condition it was in. And then you go from that to the Olympics, which are barely six weeks later and even less than that when you consider the training and the USA team says, look.
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It's on the player to make the decision about the player's health. And what we saw from him looked like a competent Joel Embiid. Now, he had some impactful moments.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Right, right. And so we come off of that, and that's the moment. when the extension is given after the Olympics. And Windhorse had a great story this week about some of the decision-making and some, they went, you know, the Sixers talked to every single knee specialist in the world and got the input.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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They wanted the assurance. The problem with the extension is what the fuck was the rush? Like, right. How about him just play the season? See what happens. Now, Maury said the quote that Windhorse attributed to him was like, we didn't want to arrive in the summer of 25 and have the uncertainty, the potential chaos of him going somewhere else. And my question is, why the fuck not? Why not?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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If we were gambling on this before, like, what do you think is more likely? He retires in the next two years or he makes it to the third year of that contract? Oh, he's going to make it to the third year.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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We are in the situation with this worst contract draft where we have one guy who costs his team like a billion and a half dollars and another guy that costs his team $500 million. And both of those franchises are looking at a decade of pure effing misery coming up. Yeah.
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Wonderful.
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we had this argument in october when we were doing the over under pod me you and rossillo and i'm the only one that that chose the over for philadelphia i i own it but i did understand the thesis i understood all of the moves that philadelphia made in their off season it was a gamble it was an all-in all the chips to the center of the table
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gamble where that Philadelphia team on paper, as we entered the season, looked like it had the potential to compete. I'm not saying beat, but compete with Boston. Boston is the standard. How can we put guys around Joel Embiid? The whole thing revolves around Joel Embiid's health. That is obviously the biggest part of the gamble. But the other side of the gamble is that Paul George will show up.
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The thing that the Sixers had done successfully in the two seasons leading up to this season is in those chunks of time that Embiid was missing, they could tread water. And they were able to tread water through the players that they had. Paul George was supposed to be the tread water character. But that dude showed up. I will never.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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This will always be Paul George for me, and I hope when he gets into the Hall of Fame that they put this picture up as part of the montage for his legacy. Him putting his mouth on his wife's titty on spring break, you know, right before the All-Star.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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The players that aren't involved with the All-Star game are off on their version of having a break, and that man has the gall to put on his Instagram his mouth on his wife's titty. That will forever That will never be the Paul George moment for me. I'll always think of him in that context. That's it. That's it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Cause I'm not, now I'm officially kind of like the draft is dropped. Yeah. I'm having a hard time.
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We can do houses.
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No, I'm not flummoxed. I know who I want to put in here. And, you know, I'm prepared to take all of the slings and arrows. It's Scotty Barnes. I don't like the Scotty Barnes extension. I don't like it one bit. This is the thing, right? And the reason why I'm putting him in at this moment, I know what I'm going to take from Toronto. The bullets I'm about to take from the Raptors.
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But somebody proved to me that he is not Zach Levine. Somebody proved to me that he is not Trey Young. The problem with paying a guy that's not ready to be the leader of the team. And look, you can say he's been hurt. Well, yes, he's been hurt. He's only in the fourth year of his NBA career. I don't want guys that are missing chunks of time the way that Scottie Barnes is missing time.
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Well, it's his worst year, shooting percentage-wise, of his entire career.
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Tell me when he will make his first all-NBA team.
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I love it. I put them where I put them because we've seen this, this song and dance before.
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It's his worst shooting percentage.
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There you go.
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I'll confess, I might have a little softer view on Kawhi because at the end of the day, I think that everything the Clippers have done with him has been part of the wildly successful arrival of the Intuit Center. I think what Ballmer did was try and create a credible product. Yes. Not an incredible product, a credible product. And the way that he did that was he used Kawhi as the vehicle.
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It has been a gross overpay from really the... Ever since he arrived from the Raptors, each of the two extensions were gross overpays. But for the purposes of what the Clippers are trying, the identity that they're, you know, they want to be relevant. And the risk of him, you know, not being available was kind of worth it for them.
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I had him on my list. Interesting.
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I want to drop the first F-bomb. I mean, he's a force fucking multiplier. That dude, because of his basketball brain, and you put the two biggest basketball brains on the planet together, yeah, I think they're going to figure it out. But think about where we were in the first third of the season, the criticism levied against the NBA. And it was proper criticism.
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It's time to have the Terry Rozier conversation. Welcome. Two years, $51.5 million left for Terry Rozier. On the face of it, $25 million for a shooting guard is capable of being a prolific scorer, it's okay. The problem is we have a sizzle reel from this season that shows him actively undermining the ability of the Miami Heat to win basketball games.
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I wonder, you know, we can theorize about stuff that doesn't take us into uncomfortable territory. No team in the NBA has more double digit leads that they've coughed up in the fourth quarter than the Miami Heat.
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And I, on the Ringer Gambling Podcast just this past Monday, said one of my favorite betting strategies over the last couple weeks, and will be until the end of the season, is to find situations where Miami has a lead going into the fourth quarter and watching them cough it up. They, down the stretch in the last six minutes of the game, have no apparent game plan. They did last night.
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It's ISO to HERO. But Rozier's contribution to that. And again, who knows? I wonder if they quietly went to him and were like, dude, we're really not trying to make the playoffs. Well, so they're the seventh seed right now, 29 and 32.
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Are we really going to do this goddamn retirement tour thing with LeBron and Steph Curry and Kevin Durant? We have to watch all these shitty games with these shitty teams. And now look where we are. Look where we are.
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I love it because it's a confession about how they feel about Scotty Barnes. So it's wonderful. It feels like it validates. Oh, it's a win for house. Yeah, it feels like an extra win for me.
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Um, this one, I understand the controversy surrounding it. I have to go put a bright light on Jamal Murray because it is an enormous, enormous contract between, for a guy, remember where we are with him in terms of his injury situation and his execution. Our recency bias will tell us this guy is a mad killer when he's healthy, but the dude's only been healthy for about six weeks now.
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And I adore him next to Joker. I want to be very plain about this, very clear. I love the contribution of Jamal Murray to the Denver Nuggets. I'm very excited to see how this playoff shakes out. But his injury history, what he does to that franchise, what he does to that franchise when he can't play. It ruins an all time historical figure in the Joker.
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It takes so much off the table with the Joker. So when you're staring at it says five years, two hundred and forty three million dollars. That's a big gamble. That's all I want to say. That's a big gamble.
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Fair enough.
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He's on the list.
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I think that Minnesota is going to find a way to keep him. I think that there's some off season. Let's do it. Yeah. Dinner. That's great. Yeah. Dinner bet. I mean, he will not be on Minnesota next year. It's not happening.
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Well, look, I mean, you just went through. They moved Cat. Nobody had that on their radar for money-saving purposes. I think they understand the value. We'll see it in the playoffs. I think Nas Reed is going to make such a compelling case over the course of these playoffs. If Minnesota goes anywhere... Honest to God, my favorite matchup of the entire first round is Oklahoma City, Minnesota.
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I pray to God that we get that as our opening round in that thing. And the toll it's going to take on Oklahoma City sets up that matchup against potentially Golden State in the second. God, it's so juicy. But to go back to the point around Nas Reed and Rudy Gobert, if the Gobert extension was for the purposes of, you know, Does it make him more palatable as a trade asset?
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But they have to do something to keep Nas Reed, and I think Nas Reed will stay with Minnesota. What do you think, Wes?
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You say the same thing about Steph? As soon as they acquired Jimmy Curry, he dropped a 56 on us. Like, hey. Yes.
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It's mandatory if we're doing a worst contract draft. We've mentioned his name once, but he has to officially be a selection. It is Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons has to be. The Ben Simmons buyout?
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Yeah, you can't have a draft until. Talk about bad contracts. Russillo sent a hilarious text this week watching him on the Clippers just making an observation around what seemed to be Ben Simmons' instincts for passing the ball. Some of like, it's just hard to really thread the needle in terms of what he was trying to accomplish, where the ball was going.
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It's an honorary pick for Ben Simmons for me at this stage.
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um am i allowed to do a combo deal because these guys uh to me fitness the exact same profile and they are also in this in this gamble phase why would you be able to take two picks in the same pick i don't understand all right then i'll choose zion because you know you can you can imagine who the who the foil would be who the other guy's name is without say but i won't say it he could still be a viable pick
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We need proof that Zion can play basketball for an entire season.
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He really does. Who do you have, House? I'm going back to an old favorite of mine. This guy is near the end of his career, doing a very distinguished job of helping a franchise with a tremendous talent, try and see the best outcome. This is Damian Lillard time. He's playing well lately. Wow. I agree. Three for 161 for Dame Lillard.
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The problem is the amount that's left on this contract at his age and the history in the NBA of guards with his profile being effective. It's just really the end of the year thing. I said up front that I'm glad that he's playing well because I'm glad for Milwaukee to be good. Yeah. I'm pissed at Milwaukee. And our guy Doc.
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Well, I don't think so because he's doing all that he can do. 161 is a gulp.
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I'm trying to put it in the right category. He's going to be good. Milwaukee, I'm pissed at Milwaukee. I honestly think the Portis drug thing was a bummer. But I don't think they should have traded Milton. I know that they needed...
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some cap savings and that Kuzma is a live body, but I will tell you come playoff time, without any reservation or hesitation, a moment will come and Kyle Kuzma will have the effing ball at that moment and it is going to go badly. Chris Middleton, I trust. Kyle Kuzma, I do not. Best of luck to the Bucs.
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I can't believe this guy is still available, to be honest with you. And I'll take, you know, the criticism for some of my earlier picks, but Andrew Wiggins is still on the board. Look at this man's contract. And please tell me the next time that you think that he is going to play 60 games in an NBA season. Please, please tell me the next time you think that that's going to happen.
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He's at 49 games right now. He played 49 games last season. He is living off of a contract that was a reward for helping the Golden State Warriors win a championship. The second best guy in the league. Totally reasonable. No problem with that.
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That's a lot. That's a lot of money left for a guy that looks like he's lost some interest. And his interest in basketball has always been kind of an open question. Except for the championship year.
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When I asked for permission to combine players, I wanted to do Zion and Ja together. Because to me, they fit the same kind of, like, when is Ja going to be able, like, if the idea with him over his entire career will be to preserve him for the playoffs, then what does that do for your team?
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There's no proof that he can.
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House, I'll give you one more pick. Thank you. And I want to say this name so we can have a quick conversation about him. I'm going to draw a distinction between him and Scotty Barnes. I'm taking LaMelo Ball here. And the distinction that I want to make is... See, this is when the draft gets great. John Moran and LaMelo Ball. I love it. But here's the distinction.
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I think LaMelo Ball could definitely make an all-NBA team. And it could be like right around the corner. It's just not going to be in Charlotte. And I don't really quibble with Charlotte paying him this contract. I think it is commensurate with his talent. But his talent, he is a loser. He's a serial loser. You mean a loser of games, not an actual human loser. Correct. Correct.
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There is no proof to the contrary. He's never played basketball in this situation, a serious situation where his team has been a winning.
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Good win. I can't believe we won seven games in a row. It's never been said. With his talent, if he can stay healthy, another guy who can, you know, we keep seeing these nagging ankles here and there. But his talent is such that if he was
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with the right situation with the right coach this would be an incredible contract potentially because i think he is supremely talented and i like his swag it just needs to be redirected so in this circumstance with this team tough i like it i don't think it's bad money but you know what i'll take his career over scotty barnes and everybody from toronto can go ahead and send me poop sandwiches i'm fine with it i'll recap the draft before i make the last pick
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I looked long and hard at it.
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They deserve to be going crazy. Like that is the only rational response in the face of, you know, the most extraordinary, irrational trade in the history, maybe of professional sports. I mean, I guess that the Sean Watson thing might rival it.
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All of sports. All of sports.
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Like, Jimmy in Miami didn't cover himself in glory in terms of up and down.
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Happy Jimmy.
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He was bitch Jimmy for, you know, 45 to 60 days. Like you really want to say if you're comparing the emotional kind of component of it, I'm not sure that I'm willing to concede. I think KD, if he had been into it, would have arrived with the very best attitude. But I don't know if he was into it. I do. And here's the other thing about KD.
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It makes no sense whatsoever. And I also really sort of wonder about Fox to San Antonio because... It's like, where do you get this season? Where are you next season? It's a decade play.
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And that makes more sense, honestly, because they're still right in the thick of things. Playoff wise. I mean, you know, for sure.
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Where are we? I don't mean to derail it. Where are we this week in Jimmy Butler?
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That is interesting. Because Washington is out there auditioning players. Valanchunas, Brogdon, Kyle Kuzma can't get on the floor.
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No, it's high because he has an incredible contract. He was like, you know what? Just a few years, 20 million bucks. Sounds great, man. It's an incredible contract that he signed. So he's very valuable if you can get a version out of him, get him to be committed to playing.
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I had under for them. And it's because, you know, they had... pieces that they added in the offseason that were supposed to create depth. Melton got hurt, but none of the pieces really moved the needle. Buddy Heald is a shocker. Buddy Heald's only averaging five points. He couldn't stick in Philly. Philly needs a guy that can score from the perimeter.
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I feel like the Golden State situation, you know, it requires what we got with the Christmas game, which was Steph Curry scoring eight points in 26 seconds. And then they lose on a layup. And it wasn't just like a hard for Reeves. It was Ole. It was Ole defense.
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So they are where they are.
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Just in terms of like bringing that energy, they, there was, you know, all their core guys went to the Olympics except for Jalen Brown, who wasn't invited, but you know, like going from the finals to the Olympics to an NBA regular season and 58 wins in this era is still like excellent. So if they win 58 games and they certainly can, um,
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I still win my bet at 58 and a half to 59 and a half, whatever the total was. But it's just hard. It's a slog. And I don't begrudge them, you know, sort of going through peaks and valleys over the course of a regular season. Knock on wood, they'll be plenty healthy come April.
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And really the only thing that was interesting to me in terms of a regular season outcome is like, is Tatum going to put himself into that MVP conversation? Is this the right moment for that even?
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Yeah, and they may yet figure it out. They won yesterday because Luka went out. When he went out, he's going to be out for an extended stretch, which is concerning.
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But the West, the thing that makes it super hard for the teams we're talking about, your Lakers, your Denver, your Golden State Warriors, your Minnesota Timberwolves, is the early good performance by Memphis, the early good performance by the Clippers, and the somewhat... Exactly. Anticipated. We all liked Houston. I'm surprised. Did anybody take the Houston over as a lock?
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It is weird because Christmas Eve is like such an underrated night. I went out to dinner and the place we went to was effing popping. It was butts to nuts packed from when you walked in, the bar is packed. Like people want to be out and an NBA game is super fun to go with your family, you know, go with your family to an NBA game and then dinner, whatever. Yeah.
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boston oklahoma city yeah i haven't wavered on that either to move off of it yeah any did philly do anything yesterday that that intrigued you big picture or do you just you're just not going to take it seriously no i i do take it seriously and it does intrigue me they're like fighting hard to get an identity and that level of of like competitiveness that they showed against the celtics it was
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good yeah seven and three over their last 10 there's still the net differential still isn't great um but they're you know still yeah minus four net differential they're like they're pushing in the right direction if they could just get you know two of those three guys healthy for a stretch of time all all every time all three of them play it's it's an absolute bonus but i they're headed towards i could see them rip something off in january be right around 500 and
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And then it's like February turns into March. There are a couple of games above and then they're like a real formidable playoff though.
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Somebody desperate enough.
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Yeah, I mean, you know.
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You're Denver and Golden States, right? Those kinds of situations where it's like one last gasp. Let's see if we can do it. Or maybe the Lakers. If the Lakers keep scuffling around 500, they still have that one trade piece.
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I'm I'm inclined to look at that Green Bay side mainly because of just how effective they've looked on both sides of the ball. Their defense has just been so impressive. They're able to put pressure on opposing quarterbacks. They're still generating turnovers. There was skepticism earlier in the year. I'll put my hand up.
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um about you know their their defense was producing what felt like an outsized number of turnovers and that was the way that they were um able to to look so good defensively um but they they've continued to do so and now it looks like their offense is healthy and now jacobs is really they're really leaning into that run game.
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And it looks like last year where Green Bay went on this run at the end of the season when Aaron Jones was finally healthy. And he led the NFL over the last five weeks and into the playoffs. Aaron Jones for Green Bay in rushing. And I kind of feel like they're gearing up in the same direction with Jacobs. It's not intended to be disrespectful in any way, shape, or form towards Minnesota.
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I mean, the line, I think, is super fair. And I think, you know... the money line is minus one to wait for both teams. Like that's, uh, in the book. And I think that's, that's totally appropriate. Um, green Bay out gained Minnesota the first time they played by, by, I watched that game though.
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Um, these teams tend to split against each other just historically. It's an important division game. Um, so my, my lean would be green Bay, but if the Vikings go win, like who, who's going to be shocked.
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I don't know. I don't know. What's Green Bay doing if it really is a playoff game, right?
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Yeah, Atlanta. If Atlanta loses this week... Carolina-Atlanta, Sunday night. Yeah, but that would be good, because then you'd have Bryce Young against Michael Penix.
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That's not good at all. Carolina has four wins. It would be hilarious, is what it would be.
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Well, they will be at home. They'll get home calls, you expect, for sure. I don't, you know, this one is just a stay away because it's dead even. I don't get any value on either side.
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Well, I think they're in very similar positions because this is a gigantic step up in class for Minnesota. Minnesota's defense hasn't seen anything like this Green Bay offense. Look at these offenses that Minnesota has seen since they lost to the Rams in week six or seven, whatever it was. They played the Colts with Anthony Richardson. They played the Jaguars. They played the Titans.
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They played the Bears. They played Kyler and the Cardinals, which was a huge comeback game, right? The Cardinals were up. That should have been a Cardinals win. Not a great Vikings game. They got Kirk Cousins and the Falcons. in his triumphant return to Minnesota, which ended his career in Atlanta and maybe his career in NFL football.
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And the Bears and the Seahawks, the best game, the best win was going into Seattle and coming down to the wire.
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Well, they're kind of like, they're good enough to be fighting for a playoff spot, but yes, yes. If we're going to do that, we have to do it for both, both teams. And the interesting thing to me, you made the case for Minnesota's offense, uh, Looking good. You want them with the ball at the end of the game. I would say the exact same thing about Green Bay.
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To me, it's not that dissimilar from the handicapping of that Thursday night Detroit-Green Bay game where it came down to which team had the ball at the end. It's a great game.
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True. But like the public hasn't jumped in yet with a big perspective. So you're thinking it's a stay away. I mean, if you want to put something small in it so that you can say we did it and it's fun and then Minnesota wins, it's like, excellent. Now we have Minnesota and Detroit in week 18 for the one seed. That would be awesome.
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True.
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Does that make you nervous or what? I honestly think that we're going to see one or two more of these over the course of the next two days. I bet, you know, the rivals.
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No, I think somebody will come back in on any other direction. And, you know, it's going to flip again.
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Yeah, that is. You would want to do it right away. Right away.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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The only thing that would concern me about the Miami situation is... Well, there's a lot of things that concern me. I don't know. You're going to go with only? Um, the, the single most prominent is if DTR, anything happens to him at quarterback.
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Well, I thought they already said that DTR is going to start. My concern was that DTR would start. Something would happen to him and Jameis would come in and DTR is playing not 100 percent healthy, though. Well, I mean, I just need to make, I want certainty that Jameis will not come in. Because if Jameis comes in, then I feel like that's a dead loser bet.
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We don't have to put them in a teaser. I mean, there's other good legs. Dallas is a pretty good teaser leg.
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Yeah.
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needs a game this is weirdly a playoff game in some ways right right no i i think both teams will treat it like a playoff game and this is exactly why my handicap is in favor of the cincinnati bangles that's why i prefer the bangles i like the team with the players that have actually like played in the playoffs yeah the team that doesn't have the rookie quarterback and you know uh
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Bo Nix, these nuts, they have been throwing the football all over the place, and we're seeing the version of him that kind of makes sense, right? He's throwing picks, multiple picks every week, Bo Nix, these nuts. And the Denver Broncos, the only thing would be with their defense... They're getting Riley Moss back. So they had two of their last three games. They gave up 32 points to Jameis.
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They gave up 34 points to Justin Herbert. Their secondary was getting eaten up. If Riley Moss comes back and he's able to go up against Jamar Chase, that's an incredible matchup. But I love all the other weapons that Cincinnati possesses. Moss is back, by the way.
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Yeah.
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I'll stop now. I mean, Cincinnati hasn't been good at home, so I prefer to not lay any points at all. Just let them win the game. Cincinnati Moneyline was my preferred play.
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Nope, nope. I mean, you know, a strip sack fumble last week against the Browns that helped me lose a nice teaser bet on the Cincinnati team total.
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Yeah.
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I don't mind the points. I really don't mind grabbing the points. And there was a minute when it was three and a half and that got stashed up. So it's down to three. And I really do kind of understand the case. It's a rookie quarterback on the road in a playoff game, right?
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But if you want to argue the other side, they've been good on the road. Denver's been good on the road this year. They beat Tampa in Tampa. They beat the Jets in New York. 10 days rest. Yeah. Extra rest for Sean Payton.
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It's extra rest for them and short rest for Cincy because Cincy's on Saturday game. Sean Payton versus Zach Taylor. Yep. Well, Zach Taylor did coach in the Super Bowl.
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Well, let me ask you this. Let's go ahead and do that, and let's do it in a meaningful increment, because we both are believers, and that's some fantastic... I mean, you know, the other sort of side to this, remember how good favorites have been. Moneyline favorites have been absolutely crushing this season. Favorites 75% since week five in terms of outright wins.
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And favorites have been covering at nearly like 56 or 57% since week five. Like both of those are, you look back 25, 30 years. Yeah. those rates are all the way up there. So we're just doing the thing that's staring us in the face that helped us make money last week, helped us make money on Christmas. We're going to make some more money on Saturday. But I want to just add another wrinkle.
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Let's go ahead and do whatever you want on that Rams-Chargers. We have to put the Colts in. Colts have to be a leg in every Moneyline parlay that we do. Really, any kind of combination, the Colts have to be in every one of them. Just on the Moneyline, Colts beating the Giants outright has to be an element of it. Well, and that goes back.
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That was it. That was it. That was the end of it. So are you saying... We anchor strategy a little bit with Chargers Rams.
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To me, the anchor is the Colts because I'll put the Colts with anybody. Here's what makes me nervous about that.
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Think about that. Like him, not Michael Penix last week, but Anthony Richardson this week.
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Layer on top of that all of the McVay stuff. 15-2 against the spread in his last 17 December games. 25-10-1 all time in December, McVay. The Rams against the Cardinals. The Rams kicked the Cardinals' ass. 12-4-1 against the spread over the last eight years against Arizona. 10-2-1 when they're a favorite against the spread, the LA Rams. I'm laying the points with them.
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They're in the Moneyline Parlay. They are part of our anchor strategy. We love the Rams. Their defense also kicking ass. The last two weeks held both the Jets and the 49ers under 10 points. Now you say, oh, look at those offenses too, the most disappointing teams in the NFL, but still holding NFL teams on the road to under 10 points. That's impressive.
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Oh, okay. There we go. Um, and I had uncertainty.
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The total is at 39 and a half in that game, as it is. I don't... I'm worried. What are you worried about? Just messing with that game at all. At all? Yeah.
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Yes. Yes. That's exactly what I think. I would have loved Dallas. I loved Dallas at 8.5. I loved them at 9.5. The 10 was an incredible number. Now down to 6.5, I kind of don't want to mess with it. Because Philly got enough... with Pickett of like, he's like, Pickett can play now, right? He got three quarters of real live NFL football, high stakes, high leverage, and they'll run an offense.
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What are you doing right now? Did you just make a Kenny Pickett case? No, it's just like Philly being ready for the game case. That's what I mean. That's all I'm saying. He's not a guy that's like playing with the first team starters for the first time in practice this week. That's all. That's all the observation.
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that i'm making i i have had enormous success riding with the cowboys and i'm so upset that they lost to cincinnati uh on that money night stupid punt thing their defense since parsons has come back has been legit good and their secondary is legit good legit good so i couldn't interest you in dallas plus 10 and a half with the over of 30 and a half at minus 115
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That yes.
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I totally agree with you.
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We love it.
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50K?
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Just a little divisional rivalry. It'll be fun. Philly hates Dallas. It'll be great. I mean, Dallas has been playing so good over the last six weeks. The Parsons effect. Yep.
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Jerry might have to buy that podcast for $250 million so they could afford to pay him and keep him under the salary cap.
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It's a collective bargaining agreement violation, I'm sure, but still.
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Okay, okay, fine. I don't mind rooting for a close game between Minnesota and Green Bay. That's fun.
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We got him with my guy Jaden Daniels and Michael Penix this coming Sunday night. Atlanta in Washington, 8.30 on NBC. Primetime Jaden against the Penix. Notice we steered clear of that game.
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I did. If we hit this LA Parlay when I'm out there two weeks for the Ringer pregame show, we'll celebrate with an LA Parlay. With the LA Parlay of food? Yeah, we'll go to Momofuku for lunch and then where are we going to go for dinner? I have like a smash burger. Major Delmo I met. Major Delmo.
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All right.
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I got a lot of good stuff planned for you.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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We're really doing this again. Oh, my God. You like long legs, Zoe? I like long legs.
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Well, the nice thing is my family tradition, we get together with my parents in the house we grew up with.
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And with my brothers and my sisters. I've stayed in the attic of that house many times. You have. And so we just do that the first part of the day. So we were done by kickoff, one o'clock. And when we got home, my wife and my kid wanted to play with his stuff. My wife went right back to bed. And so I was left alone to watch whatever I wanted to watch. I had full control of the dial with Netflix.
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The dad.
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Great job, Netflix.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's like a jerky.
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Well, this is the sort of predicament for the rest of the season. I mean, this is what happens when you're in a transition moment and the most resonant stars. And the Olympics really validates the idea of putting those guys on the main stage because the Olympics were effing incredible. Right. Those last two games, the semifinals and the finals, were incredible, and it was because of those guys.
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Right.
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So if you want to let them have their – retirement journey, which is really what we're on, I think, with LeBron. And, you know, this is probably... He looks better since the eight-day sabbatical.
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Yeah.
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Well, only because we don't have an American superstar that's jumping up and grabbing the ring. The guy that jumped up and grabbed the ring is effing Wemby. He served notice. 12 noon, Madison Square Garden, Christmas Day. Welcome to, you know, the world. Like, everybody's been talking about Wemby last season, this season.
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He keeps having these, you know, inspiring milestone performances right out of the gate. And yet, you know, the mother effer was flopping on Monday. I know.
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got kicked out and got kicked out and drumming got pulled back in the game. I mean, if we're going to, you know, we need a guy who's going to come out and kick ass and not fall over when the wind blows. Well, he is French. That's part of the problem. It's literally part of the problem.
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Well, you know, Shaq understood this, which is why he went to LA and it was Shaq and Kobe. And that was an unbelievable era. Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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Yao. Yeah. Well, Yao was incredible. And beloved, you know, by... Global.
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Globally, he became great. Yeah.
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I went under. Yeah, I went under. I look at that roster even today and still say under. There aren't guys on that roster that make me say, oh yeah, this is a 500 team that's going to be threatening for the... They're going to be in the play-in mix and they're going to be potentially fighting for an eight seed. I look at that roster and I don't get there.
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They play defense.
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See, I don't know that I subscribe to the idea that they're operating from fear because they did stick this cup into the portion of the NFL. NFL season that is like really, you know, we're deciding playoff outcomes now and they are on nights of the week when there isn't necessarily NFL.
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Now, I don't like the fact that inside the NBA is on Tuesday and, you know, the Amazon games are fine, but none of that Thursday night football is must see TV for me. Hold your spot. But here's the real problem. And they're never going to do this. The stupid season shouldn't start until Christmas.
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And the NBA Cup in February would be effing magnificent because football is diminishing starting on Christmas Day, basically. We're getting less and less games. The playoffs start. And during the week, you have full run to go do whatever you want. So taking the whole thing and starting in Christmas time, New Year's, and let's take over the season as football goes away.
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Yeah. I mean, it's LeBron. It's supposed to be LeBron, except for where LeBron at 40. Come on. It's not LeBron at 40. And it's not really Curry either. That's right. But those are the guys on television. Look at the schedule. Look at the, the, the ABC schedule. Um, I think, you know, the hard thing is nobody sits down and watches basketball games.
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You don't sit down like, oh, the game's about, let me go get my chair, right? It's not football. And, you know, using linear TV ratings as a measuring stick for overall success is clearly outmoded, outdated, makes no sense whatsoever. The fact...
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The fact that the league signed an 11-year, $76 billion deal means that those folks who were paying that money have ideas about how to capture eyeballs in the interest of those consumers to push their stuff that makes sense to them.
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And they don't think that people are going to come sit down in their chairs and watch a goddamn basketball game in February from the beginning of the game to the end of the game. It's all the ways that we watch it. It's what you and Derek Thompson talked about. People consume the hell out of basketball, but they don't consume it by sitting in a chair and watching it.
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So it's a little bit of a false description, a false assessment to say, well, yeah, the ratings are down.
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100%.
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And I don't have a good solution for it. Um, it's easy for us to talk about less games. There's the 41 home games for, um, places where people actually go to the games, not here in Washington, but in bed places, cities where the team is relevant. That's real money. That's revenue in that's walking into the door, buying food, buying merch, you know, uh,
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populating the surrounding restaurants and bars and stuff. It's an ecosystem that matters. And how do you walk away from that? Where's the replacement for that?
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Well, the reason that's great is because the buildup to it is occurring in the month of diminishing football. We're not having 16 games on Sunday.
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Yeah. And in terms of fans, like how much would it cost to just here's 5,000 tickets? If your team makes it, we're going to give them, you know, we have a five, 5,000 free tickets. Please take the ticket and go. I mean, you're not going to pay for people to go, but where you're at least have access to the arena.
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I mean, here's the thing. The trade deadline sucks now. They ruined it. The collective agreement. They did ruin it. They aproned it.
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By the way...
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What do you think of that?
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It's incredible. I think that's the best way to give. No, I mean, as a guy who was an early embracer of that Dallas Mavericks, they really changed the entire trajectory of their franchise at the trade deadline last year. Speaking of trades not mattering anymore, Daniel Cafford and P.J.
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Washington, and then they did an incredible job in the offseason building up around those guys and getting rid of some pieces that didn't fit. 12-2 in the last 14, Bill.
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He had another one.
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It's exciting. I love that. I mean, who knows what the outcome would be this season's playoffs, but it would be much more interesting.
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So here's my overreaction to the entire week. And it really does, you know, it's expressed most perfectly by that game. I will confess just for myself, I got lulled into a sample size that wasn't really reflective with that Seattle defense and throughout the card in week 15. I chose the defense over the offense.
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And in each instance, the team with the superior offense beat the crap out of the team. Like Philly, Pittsburgh. Yeah.
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Yes. Tampa went into the Chargers.
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Right.
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They were good numbers. They were like, you know, look at all the ways that they've improved and they had health. And, you know, they were very it was a compelling case. It just didn't hold any water.
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So this game to me was the most confounding and the hardest for me to try and choose a path. And I'm halfway inclined to bet on Houston and grab the Houston money line because on the possibility that all of the Mahomes stuff is smoke and mirrors. Because Kansas City is smart enough to try and give itself an advantage on everything.
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So part of the advantage would be having Houston's defense prepare for Mahomes and then come out with a Wentz game plan. I wouldn't put it past Kansas City in any way, shape, or form. The challenge is... the chief defense stinks. Their secondary is bad and they haven't been able to do anything since week eight. I mean, it's, you know, look at the numbers. They're a bottom 10 past defense.
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So it's a, this is a stay away from you. It is. I mean, even though I think in the second half, especially Joe mixing these nuts, uh, Joe mixing these nuts. Like, that's the pathway. Houston can't score in the second half.
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So if they get up, you know, 17 to something, and then they do what they do, which is score a touchdown or a field goal in the second half, and they try and run mixing these nuts, you know, 15 times, that's their path. And you're up against Carson Wentz. But I just don't trust that we're going to see a healthy Mahomes. And I don't like that Kansas City defense one bit.
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They're planning, right? They're planning for Saturday and Wednesday. The Chiefs are doing that right now. How can it make sense to have Mahomes in any kind of diminished capacity in the Saturday game?
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The problem for them is that they go to Wednesday against the Chiefs 10-5. That's hard.
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Yeah, because every trend that's out there says that against the spread, this is a great opportunity to get in on Pittsburgh. I don't want to have anything to do with Pittsburgh with no T.J. Watt. Let's see what... Right, T.J. Watt. That's... Their record without TJ Watt is abysmal. And every number goes out the window if he doesn't play. Now, it seems like he's going to play.
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The practice reports kind of have him in the mix. But if he's diminished at all, then I don't love it against this Ravens offense. It's going to be cold. This feels like a Derrick Henry game. The front seven for Pittsburgh didn't really get home against the Eagles' offensive line. Well, that's the other thing.
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They got their asses kicked. I think the Ravens' offense is as good as the Eagles' offense.
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Well, he's got the busted finger on the non-throwing hand.
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Your instinct is lined up with my instinct because I've seen enough of these Philly-Washington games, even in seasons where there's been dramatic difference, much more pronounced difference in the quality of the team. Remember that Monday night game that... Yeah, Washington ended the Eagles winning streak that season. It was just, you know, 2021, I think, whatever, a handful of seasons ago.
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But, you know, the right way to play is to take the team that has the better players. I just want to be as reductive as possible. And that's something to play for.
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100%.
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I mean, again, Washington, I'm so happy. I love this team. And they did get right. They looked awesome against Tennessee. They kicked their ass. They looked awesome in the first half against the Saints. But they still like that defense. It's the thing why when you called me last summer, you were like, can Washington make a run here? And I was like, the only problem is the defense.
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Now they've made a run. It's really incredible. But Philly on the money line is the right way to play this. And you're basically in the playoffs.
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I agree. I'm thrilled.
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I'm trying to think. I might want to workshop. Can I? Is Penix these?
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They weren't in that game. I was like, what's wrong? I was like, the Seahawks hurt my feelings. That game was over. I was like, oh, I just lost this. I just, I watched the first seven minutes. You knew.
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Yeah, you knew.
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Well, it would be hard enough if Gito wasn't hurt. You cannot under any circumstances countenance, even a 5% chance that Sam Howell will be playing quarterback for Seattle. Right.
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This is another test of the thesis. We just did this with Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Take the team with the better offense. Minnesota, Seattle. I'll take the team with the better offense. I know who it is. Minnesota secondary gettable. We've been watching some teams, you know, quietly pass the ball on them, especially in second halves. Seattle can't do it.
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We haven't seen Seattle's offense really do anything for feels like six weeks now. You know what happened?
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So what's weird is, to me, why are you going in that direction? I'd rather lay points with the Niners because I think that they're the best. I'd like to do it like Niners minus two and a half. Oh, interesting. Go in that direction where they underdog. Because right now, they're the underdog in that game. The money line is minus 106.
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It's like, you know, I'm not going to disparage my great friend, the host of the... Sunday, uh, pregame show ringer Sunday pregame. I'm not going to say that's a JJ, uh, underdog money line play. Um, even though JJ does, you know, sometimes get close to the line in terms of his dog. Um, but minus one Oh six isn't even a dog. So let's go. If he's going to get on San Francisco, let's get on him.
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Let's lay a little points. Let's let's take it in the direction that we think it's going to go.
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Oh, okay.
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Because Usyk is like a minus 150 favorite.
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I will tell you. I'll confess right away. You have the Bengals in a tease already? No, I have them in money line positions.
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We haven't done this all year. Oh, I mean, I feel like we haven't done it in five years. This is like, it's an old school, old, like get the anchor and then you build around the anchor. It's an old school anchor strategy. The old money line parlay. Welcome back to my life.
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They did a great rope-a-dope. By having Washington prepare for a boudoir photo hater, the guy whose real attribute as an NFL quarterback are the pictures of himself. Right. Getting him out and putting Rattler in, it messed up the Washington defense. And you still should have won by 10. You had first down in the nine-yard line. You could have kneeled three times.
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Also, the game was 60 minutes and four seconds. So if we're going to mess with the clock, we're going to give teams extra time to get touchdowns, then you're in trouble.
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We took an unwatchable slate of games on Sunday because it really is one of the worst slates of the season. And look at all the fun ways we have this split up. This is great. So you don't want to put the Chiefs in with the Bills and Packers? I don't. I mean, I'll take the L for thinking that the Browns were going to not turn the ball over six times against the Chiefs at home.
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I'll take the L for that. But the Chiefs weren't very impressive. Their offense really didn't look great. And that was with the homes, you know, most of the game healthy. And you don't, and we're going to stay away from the Bengals money line.
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Talk me into it. Make the case right now.
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The heart wants what the heart wants. And what the heart wants is the Bengals to be in the playoffs. I want the Bay, the Bengals to win out. I want Denver to lose out. I want, uh, both the Colts and who's the other team that has to lose a game. I want the Miami as the seven seed. I want the Cincinnati Bengals as a seven seed.
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I want us to, to, to wake up with them on, on a wild card, you know, weekend up against, you know, the, the, the, the two seed in the form of who's going to be the, the, the two seed. Is it going to be, uh, it's either Buffalo or the chiefs. Right. And it's that. Yeah. It's, but it could be, yeah, it's Buffalo, the Buffalo or the chiefs.
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Imagine how good that would be. I honestly think it's going to be the Chiefs because I think that Mahomes, you know, they're going to make a decision about it. But in any event.
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If these lose, this is on you and Chris Mannix. It's not on me.
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Old school, Bill Simms, Cousin Sal. You find a team that you like on the money line and then you start building around them. We have two teams that we like on the money line this week, both Buffalo and Green Bay. Huge money lines, minus $1,100 each. Massive.
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And then you start grabbing, you know, teams at lesser odds that you like, again, just on the money line and try and build up around even money or to a plus side and try and build up a little bit of bankroll for those last minute Christmas gifts, BS. Because I still got some shopping to do.
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I mean, he's been looking outstanding.
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Let's not really bet on Cincinnati.
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And it starts the momentum for Cincinnati to get to the playoffs. I mean, we'll know from the Denver outcome whether or not that's reasonable. Denver and the Chargers.
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A little 100K flyer? That I will, yes. So that, what's the number? Let's hear the number.
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That's a hundred K. Well, the only thing that, that, you know, gives us any challenge at all with that is, is Carson Wentz. If Carson Wentz ends up being, but the four and a half, that's, that's Wentz protection. We'll call that Wentz protection. You know, what's great about that house.
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Yeah, the rollies. We had a handful of categories. We wanted to sum up the year. Our good buddy, Brendan Porath from the Shotgun Start podcast came on. And we just ran through all of the big events. I mean, Bryson as the breakthrough performer, we call him the comeback because, you know, he's been on the outs. And look at Bryson, king of the golf world.
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Our Dirk Diggler stud of the year went to, I'm pretty sure it went to Xander Schauffele for winning two majors, right? I sure would hope so. He had that in him. And then we had the Hawk Tua creator of the year, and we gave that to the Louisville Police Department because that was the viral moment in the golf world. Nobody knows who Scotty Scheffler is, including the Louisville Police Department.
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Well, there's there's two things at work. In the first place, the games were rock fights. I mean, the shooting across the board in the semis and the finals was bad. And, you know, Oklahoma City going five for 32 from three, that's not pleasing to the eye. They were all unders. If you were gambling on this and playing on the unders, you're quite happy with outcomes.
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The dude's at the front door of the golf course trying to drive in. They don't know who he is. That was the biggest moment in the entire world of golf. So, yeah, we had a good time with the Rollies. We got to get a trophy for it.
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Well, there are some candidates for that for sure in golf. But, you know, we that that can make the list for next year.
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So so many great times with Shadow and every interaction I've had with Scott O'Neill. What a great dude.
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But Waz really hit the key point, which is how can you get the partisans there? How can you get the fans that will show up with the passion? And this is... the difference between this year's iteration and last year with the Lakers, the Lakers had an easy, easy, easy way to import, you know, a bunch of enthusiasm. And it was very cool because it was the first one.
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How can you get, this is why I was shaking my head enthusiastically around the idea of this being kind of like an NCAA deal. The difference is there's big chunks of fan bases that have traveled to that place to root for their, their team. So it's live. It's live from, from the tip. Um, how can you, how can we get that? That's the part BS that I wanted.
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30?
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Maybe because we were very, very close to having this be the Hawks against the Rockets like Saturday. That was a viable possibility. New York fans would have showed up for that. Um, I, I, I'm not sure. Like, I don't think that that Vegas is a bad choice as a venue because it, it, it delivers, um, the, the promise of other entertainment.
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It, it, it, you know, New York is hard, especially what we're calling it now.
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You mean like adult entertainment? We're old enough now to talk about these things in ways that keep it light. But I don't know. New York in December, like that's a whole thing, right? Like everybody's up in New York right now. That's fair. Yeah, you're right. Because Christmas time is marvelous.
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Well, that's the angle to play up. I mean, part of the thing that you guys are talking about is the league's affirmative choice about how it's going to market this season, which is, you know, a transition season. And you captured it, BS, on your pod earlier this week. They have chosen...
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as a from a marketing standpoint to to give glory to this exiting exiting quickly class of superstars that have defined the league over the past 10 to 15 years at the expense of a player like SGA like you know or Tatum or Tyrese Halliburton or all these dudes in their 20s that they should be trying to elevate
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Exactly. You know, what's SGA's defining moment? And we're NBA heads, but ask anybody in an NBA kind of community. Tell me SGA's, you know, the clutch thing that's happened. Giannis, I love. There's a moment here to really go ahead and lean into where he's at, which is averaging 21.5 points per game in the paint, which hasn't been seen since Shaq in 99-2000. Yeah.
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We talked about Giannis and his potential of replacing Shaq at that point. Let's do that. Let's make that be Giannis. Giannis, we know. Giannis has a ring.
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Do you agree with that, House? I kind of do. It does fit the, you know, the personnel that the Eagles have. We did think that that Kellen Winslow was going to come in as a whiz bang guy and really show, you know, some open up that offense in a way that who was the poor guy that got run out of town last year? Brian Johnson.
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Yeah. Yeah. There was a lot of just bad taste left in the mouth from the Ron Johnson experiment. And Brian Johnson.
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All of them. All the Johnsons. Anyone named Johnson. Bad Johnson in the mouth. That's all I can say.
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Yeah, I mean, I think the Eagles are going to win. I don't mind laying the six and a half, but if you want to tease them from six and a half down to a half and just have them win outright, I'm not going to argue with you.
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Well, part of what is going to facilitate that is the health, the restored health for Kansas City, really on both sides of the ball, but definitely on offense. All of their weapons will be available. One of my very favorite bets on the FanDuel Sportsbook is Patrick Mahomes over one and a half passing touchdowns. It was like minus 144.
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I have no issue whatsoever with laying it, and I'll probably parlay that with Kansas City to win Kansas.
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outright that's fine um i love the the the narrative aspect of this that you're describing bs which is we're going into a weekend where everybody is absolutely appropriately fantasizing about what's going to come between josh allen and and and lamar jackson and patrick mahomes and the first game of the weekend is like y'all i'm still here i'm right here yeah i'm going for a three-peat guys hey i'm ready i'm right here
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Yeah.
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House? The Mixon thing especially is a stretch. Like, he only runs well against teams that are, you know, that permit it and the game script. Like, he had 60 of his 100 yards on the last drive of the game where Houston really closed out that game. Yeah. Otherwise, he had a very average day, and that's really been the story of Joe Mixon this entire season.
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They came out with an offense that looks super formidable when everybody was healthy. I thought, oh, this is the version of Houston that's going to win this division and maybe win 12 games or something and really be a threat. And then they had the injuries and their offensive line never was up to the task. And that's the problem with mixing.
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They're just not, you can't establish the run with, with, with the offensive line that they have. And they ain't establishing the run against the chiefs. I'll tell you that much right now.
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Are you asking me that question? I am. Hell no. And it's not it doesn't have anything to do with Jaden Daniels. He doesn't get to play defense. I mean, the problem is that the offense, they will have a great game plan and they will do their best to shrink the game. They will try and have long drives. They'll try and have they'll try and replicate what they did against Tampa.
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in that game, both teams had exactly seven possessions. That's the best way for Washington to have a chance. They go, they, they, they, every possession is a four down possession. There's no such thing as three downs and punt with Washington. Unless, you know, there are, that's like fourth and nine or something. And very much on the wrong side of the field. That's exactly right.
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But Jaden Daniels can't control the defense. And the defense, God bless them. It's been bend, don't break all season long. They've put that offense in position to go win six consecutive last possession games. The last possession of the game for Washington, they've won. That is an absolute miracle. And Jaden Daniels has been a tremendous, like the hyperbole for his performance.
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You know, I can't overstate how much he's done to transform this franchise, but he doesn't play defense. So it's not up to him.
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I just thought, I think the line's too high. So that that's the case, right? Nine and a half is a big number when you have a quarterback on the other side, like Jaden Daniels and Washington will play this entire game all the way out. Right. There's no, they're not going to do an El Foldo game.
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And so even if the Detroit's up 17 points with six minutes left and Washington gets the ball and goes down, they'll they could score a touchdown and get a two point conversion. And you lose your bet because they take it from 17 down to nine and you've lost the nine and a half point cover. It's a great tease candidate. I mean, the thing with.
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Detroit that I really believe is going to be the big swing here is they're going to establish the run. If David Montgomery is back and is, you know, in full force, they're going to establish the run and just run the football down Washington's throat. And they might get explosive with it. Like they might, because if Jameer gets outside, he gets gone. It just could be a couple quick scores.
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I think there's belief. I mean, certainly here in Washington. And I think, you know, Jane Daniels, this is part of the joy of being a Washington fan. He's captured the national imagination because of his stones. He has the biggest balls of any athlete in Washington that I can think of. I mean, Ovi came in with big balls, but then Sidney Crosby kicked his ass for a while.
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Ovi finally sort of got the Stanley Cup. He's threatening the great one's record. And Bradley Beal.
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I love it. No, I love it. And the case that that's the best case, right, is that Jaden Daniels and Washington controlling the ball and offense. They play defense by playing great, efficient offense. And that's the best opportunity.
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I mean, tears were beyond tears. Like this is what it's done for my libido, for my love life. It's just been unbelievable. It's like a Viagra. It's better than that. I'll tell you what, it's better than that.
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It was worse than that. And Danny Heifetz of The Ringer, a great story on TheRinger.com about the return of Washington as a place where good football can happen. We have this legacy, this unbelievable 20 years of success that a bad owner came in and ruined. He ruined it for three generations almost. There are people in my life who are like, this is our first playoff win.
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You know, there are there are young folks here who never saw any of the old glory days with Joe Gibbs and, you know, the high flying Washington attack. And it's just, you know, this is a football city. It's back. It's back. Yes.
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Well, it coincided with the Patriots getting good and Tom Brady.
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Philly hates Josh Harris. The Sixers, they are so out on him as the Sixers owner. I hear it all the time from my Philly people.
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Yes.
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You can do it. I'm not participating in it. You do it. You do it. You do it.
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Totally agree with that.
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That's definitely my point of view. I mean, the aspect of it that is so curious and what we'll see in this upcoming offseason, I wonder aloud, is it looks like a Baltimore has a defense that is well-constructed to compete against Kansas City.
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I don't think that they could have anticipated what impact Derrick Henry would have on Baltimore, and they don't have a defense that is – they're just not big enough. You're talking about Buffalo's defense. Buffalo's front seven is just too light. They just can't – they can put everybody in the box, and that is a terrible –
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predicament to put yourself into because Lamar really does have a next level of confidence. The way that they ran their offense against Pittsburgh last week, they just ran this option play. It was like a pick and roll. And Pittsburgh had one kind of solution for it. But just the confidence that Lamar demonstrated in his ability to make the right choice and just do it. And he didn't break a sweat.
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He just was like...
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this is the way and i just think the way that that baltimore will get off with derrick henry we're gonna he's gonna they're gonna establish now i don't think he's gonna run have a 90 yard touchdown in the first touch like like he did when these teams played in the regular season but i do think they're gonna establish him and i do think he's gonna get his yards and it's gonna come early and then that baltimore offense opens up and it's just a tough i mean i i'm rooting for a tremendous game so i want to see the very best out of uh out of josh but i just you're
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lover of football. The field is tilted in my humble estimation.
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I mean, respectfully, everybody loves winners. We love having shield on shield comes on. All he does is give out winners, but respectfully, if you're picking one thing a week, like some of these winners were Deshaun Watson unders like, uh, okay. AJ Brown on, you know, catches the week after he complained. He bitched like, oh, is AJ Brown going to get kicked? Yes. Again, we love winners.
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I don't feel like I criticized him enough. He sucked, and Jordan Love sucked, and Sam Darnold sucked. They all sucked. And look at the quarterbacks. CJ Stroud was excellent. Jay Danos was excellent.
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Yeah, well, enough to win the football game. Matthew Stafford was excellent. We're allowed to say that.
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So here's my concern. And I'm going to make a recommendation. You can't parlay this, but I prefer attempts to yards when it comes to Mahomes because kneel downs count as attempts and kneel downs behind the line of scrimmage detract from your rushing total. So if he's in the low 30s,
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and they are running out the football at the end of the game, and he kneels down twice, you're all of a sudden in the real danger zone of getting down to like 24 yards, and you lose your bet. The total for rush attempts is four and a half. Three rushes over the course of the game, and then two kneel downs. You collect on your bet. Yeah, that's one that I like.
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I'm in. I love that one. I think it's... I like the 2-1 odds. Stroud is like crazy. It's like minus 160 for him to throw a pick at some crazy number. So this is really a Stafford bet. And what's the status of Higby? I mean, is he...
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She'll seem lukewarm on the double pick bet. Plus 195.
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Just put them together. I agree with the idea that both of them are going to get them. Both of those teams are committed in a way that the future of the franchise is based on those two dudes going out and getting Russians. They're going to get all the touches. They're going to have all the opportunity. And if we believe in those offensive lines, then they're going to get there. Oh, it's a plus 236.
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And now we need Henry for 21 yards. Barkley for 19.
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Put it on the card. Put it on the card. The shield special. Put it on the card.
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Well, I kind of like it. I don't know how deep they're going to try and go. It would have to be like a pitch and catch kind of thing. But that's the thing, right? Look at the scripts for the other teams. To me, it might be Xavier Worthy. I honestly think Worthy is going to get a ton of punches.
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I'm on that. I'm on that. Yes. Hail baby.
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I'm out. So you have to get your answer from Sheil.
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I'm beyond Eagles-ish. I'm full-on Eagle hump. I mean, it's Go Birds Go. I think that this is a terrible spot for the Rams. I think that the Eagles have advantages on both sides of the line, both defensive line and offensive line. It's like we're playing in the freezing effing cold, and I know the team that has the better lines. Let's go. Let's go get a W.
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The divisional round of the effing playoffs has been 25 years. Like, what are you talking about? It's not surprising at all. I haven't been in this position in forever. Okay.
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It's not like week three. I'm just going to play my McLaurin overs. I'm going to be satisfied. You made a great case. We'll play McLaurin overs. It's fine.
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All right. I think, I mean, you know, decent chance he'll do it.
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10K is a good number. That's how people play them.
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Hell yes. Hell yes.
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Is it true he's living in your attic right now? I mean, he's welcome. And by the way, he's still going to get a great contract. It's not going to be the massive contract, but still, I mean... A couple of years, 25 million bucks. You could do worse. I mean, congratulations to him. What was his best hope for outcome when he took the ball on first down, the first play of this season?
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I mean, I think if you told him, how about another couple of years and 25 million bucks? Are you good with that? I think he might've said yes.
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arnold well sure he a little bit i mean the thing that we couldn't um divine on our own it just revealed itself is that that offensive line for the vikings suffered um injuries on the left side that created um some some mismatches for both detroit and for the rams and that's what yeah there was no he held the ball too long he froze he went back to his old dna but why did that happen against
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Oh shit, we shouldn't have done that. Why is there Wizards violence on this football podcast?
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That's been the script all season. They're among the bottom teams in the NFL in terms of scoring in the first quarter. So they're not coming out and instilling confidence. They're not coming out and kicking ass. Now they did score a touchdown within the first three minutes of the first quarter of
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this most recent game but that's because of you know the bogus fumble that happened and that was the only touchdown of the first half and so like if you want to be frustrated with the Eagles getting going I think I hope I don't know the good people of Philadelphia having seen Hurts get the rust off a little bit with that Green Bay game. They'll be patient and understand.
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The best way for the Eagles to win this football game is to just run the football down the Rams' throat and do it, do it, and do it. And it may take a little while to get the battering in place that is their pathway. But Philly doesn't really strike me as a place that has a lot of patience.
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Philadelphia. Here's the thing. You're from Washington. Why would you like Philadelphia? Over the years, I've softened because of two things. There is incredible golf. Super underrated golf in the Philadelphia area. I got to play Marion last year. Marvelous. But yes, the food in Philadelphia, again, crazy.
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crazy underrated the food in philadelphia this we should go do i did a philadelphia food tour with chris ryan i know five or six years ago on the house of carbs because and the scene just keeps getting better and better so i have my soft spots for philadelphia yeah so it's basically just all selfish food and golf the two things you care about that's how to win over joe house
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Guilty. Guilty as charged.
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I mean, you know, they're the fuck-off Mavericks, and that's the way they're going to be for the next five years.
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I heard a wrinkle here in the last 10 days or so that I hadn't heard before.
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Which was the idea.
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Concussion barely covers it. It's brain damage. That Palenka was less than forthcoming, less than truthful, less than 100% upfront about the nature of Anthony Davis's injury. Have you heard anything about this? I have not. That Palenka took advantage of his relationship with his protege, the sneaker boy.
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And an element of that was an injury that he characterized in their conversations was something that Anthony Davis could overcome, was not going to be as impactful.
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Well, I don't disagree.
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It remains, again, the dumbest effing trade.
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I wrote to you.
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In the first 12 hours after the trade, I wrote in our text thread when all of us were trying to make some sense out of it. What if this was the most Machiavellian, big ball, big baller move by Nico, which is to create a market that he couldn't otherwise create by failing Anthony Davis on the physical and having every team in the league now see
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that he's available because it just takes too much time and energy to shot Luca and see what might come out of the woodwork to each of the remaining 32 teams. I mean, we were here in Augusta, Georgia in the company of a really, God, I love that conversation so much. An NBA upper, upper highest echelon person.
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who shared with us that the price available, all I'm going to say, they would have paid any price. There was no price that was not on the table.
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You know who didn't get a chance to participate?
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I don't think that's up for debate. I think that there is a large body of evidence that confirms this.
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Can the league really live with that outcome? That would be a bad outcome for the league.
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I think at least a billion dollars. I think it's easy. You could easily run a math exercise and get to two billion, I think.
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Well, they have some things that they have to figure out, but they have assets. They have moves.
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Oh, Minnesota's awesome.
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They're in a crossroads spot.
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Detroit's incredible.
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Now we're getting close. Now it's getting a little bit more of a... Yeah.
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I'd rather have Dallas too. I feel like I can get out of my Dallas situation. They're in a very similar situation. Portland? Portland's great.
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No. I would much rather have it be Dallas than New Orleans.
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Hard Dallas. Hard Dallas.
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Anyone, normal person. Well, I mean, that makes it different. The problem with Washington is there has been no validation of the proof of concept. It's been moribund for two decades now.
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I understand.
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They had an awesome team. It's like, you know...
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The most incredible thing, and this is why we should never put ourselves in the position of underestimating what the NBA is capable of, is that the first, what was it, quarter of the season, The narratives were, stop putting the effing Lakers and the effing Golden State Warriors on television. Sick of watching them. They stink. There's nothing those teams can do to improve themselves.
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Exactly. Can you please promote some of these younger players?
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We want to see that. And, you know, ratings down. And they're going to stay down. Like, what can flip this? And here we are now with both of those two franchises. We can't wait to see these Western playoffs.
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That's exactly right. And every one of their TV partners like, yeah, we did it.
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Yeah, it's got to be OKC.
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Wait a minute. Yeah, unless.
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That's right.
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You can afford more than that, buddy.
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I think two things. In the first place, he became the de facto voice of the PGA Tour for all of the processing in professional golf of the rift between the players that left for live and the PGA Tour, and he really was the voice of the tour, making arguments on behalf of the tour. He was the front man, not the commissioner of the tour, Rory effing McElroy. So that is sort of one element of it.
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He was a prominent face and a prominent voice, and he's articulate. He always gives a sincere interview, so there's a likability factor there.
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Yeah. And the other element is this sort of, I don't want to overstate it. It's not tragedy that he can't win another major.
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Yes. Slightly.
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Because he's been super competitive in a handful of majors. There's been this question since the last major he won in 2014, when will he win his next? And he has been super close a handful of times and not able to get across the goal line. So there is that element as well.
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Yeah. Well, he's more of a kind of villain. He's also 54 years old.
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Oh, yeah. Sure, sure. For sure, Phil.
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Yeah. And it's a combination of him having whatever the instinct was to sort of create a personality on YouTube. Like he's a real he's a creator and it's interesting content. And he does the series is breaking 50. He started it in the fall of 23. Uh, and it was a weird kind of moment, um, for him because he had gone over to live.
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I wholeheartedly agree. The interesting thing to me is this whole game flipped in the third quarter.
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People were, you know, in, in two camps still in that 2022, 2023 timeframe. But he's like, you know what? I have this thing I'm going to do. It was, it was the breaking 50 thing and it became very popular. Now it has 1.8 million subscribers, but then he went and played excellent golf.
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on the heels of this youtube thing he played great at the pga championship um last year at valhalla and nathan was there on the grounds experiencing the pop the crowd pop right yeah he chipped in to end his third round on saturday and the place went apeshit he looked into the camera and did the let's go like yeah like he was a youtube creator
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Different kind of game.
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They were up five at halftime. It was 72-67 at halftime.
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Thank you.
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It worked out absolutely sublime, as usual. But the third quarter was 52-25. 52 points in the third quarter for the Minnesota Timberwolves.
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Yeah, T-O-B-O.
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Yeah.
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The interim Memphis coach.
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Thank you.
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The Memphis coach for the moment.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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You think where that team was two months ago, two and a half months ago.
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Thank you.
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It's a team that needs some shaking up. The coach firing... Would you trade for Ja Morant?
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. . . . . .. a, P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P,實 , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , . a el... For the Champions Dinner this week, Chang talked about it. It was the least expensive menu of any menu that any champion coming in had offered up over the last decade because it was like sliders.
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God, no. John Morant makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
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Redfish and chili. Yeah. Right down the middle.
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I agree with this. Because Bryson now, like 2 million subscribers to his YouTube thing, and he gets a plus list people to come do Breaking 50 with him.
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Beefy Bryson.
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No. Well, Jordan, no, no, no, no, no. I understand the marketing stuff. He's beloved in Memphis. Berno reminds us of the trajectory he was on with a Nike relationship and with the league's interest in promoting him.
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1.30 in the morning. An amazing beef short rib and kimchi fried rice by Chef Chang at 1.30 in the morning.
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The number one. He owns Augusta.
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Well, here's the thing. It's the first without Tiger, which is why we began this whole segment. I mean, the thing that is a galvanizing, where is he on the golf course when the tournament starts? And let's go see how many, what we can catch. I mean, the most noteworthy thing from two years ago was the birdie that we saw with our own two eyes on Thursday on the 16th hole.
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And that beautiful amphitheater that surrounds 16. And the roar. He finished the first round at one under, top 10 on the leaderboard, was able to continue his make the cut streak, made cut streak. And we were there to witness. In my memory banks, my sporting experiences, I have a lot of great ones. It will always be there.
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Tiger on 16, you know, at the sort of end of his career, still rocking at the Masters.
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That's you. You'll forever hold that against Russell Henley.
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Poppy McElroy made a putt that was really inconceivable.
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This is your thing. I don't care. It doesn't matter. Part three is a fun thing.
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To be fair, we didn't.
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Scott Van Pelt. Give that man a kiss on the top of his head.
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Sunday night recap, we will be plausibly live for a reaction.
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It wasn't that long ago.
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That's an awesome series.
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There'll be a fracas. A fracas and a fracas. There'll be a Donnybrook. There's going to be an imbroglio. An imbroglio, yes. All of them. They'll all be lined up.
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It is undeniable.
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Yes.
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That's interesting. I do have immense respect for Imei. I do think they will game plan well. to try and do their best to limit Ant. I do think they'll game plan to make sure that Julius Randle has the ball as much as possible.
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95?
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My issue, and I've said it a couple times, I think I said it earlier this week, with Houston is I don't trust them scoring, getting the tough buckets that you need in a playoff series.
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They need the tough buckets in a playoff series where the team has engineered a game plan to take away what you do, what you want to do on offense. in the last six or seven minutes.
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Dallas OKC?
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The league doesn't want that. The league does not want the Lakers and Golden State in the first round.
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Well, let's just pay attention to the referee assignments. That would be one way. You're going to referee assignments? Let's just make sure we're monitoring all the data points that are out there that might impact how you want to handicap these last couple games of the season. Just be mindful. That's all I'm saying.
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That's not what the league wants. The league does not want Denver Clippers and using up all of the juice of this, you know, moment in LeBron's career, this moment in Steph Curry's career. I don't want it. I don't want to see this in the first round. I don't want to see Golden State and the Lakers in the first round.
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I'm dying for Lakers Clippers in the first round.
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Dying for it.
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I can't think of it.
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You would know. You're the one that writes books. I can't think of a time like that.
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I just love that. Did it happen in the bubble? The L.A. conch aspect of it.
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conch. Because Ballmer with his brand new stadium.
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Right? And we finally have healthy Kawhi. The Clippers absolutely positively will not go down. They are not going to let the Lakers bully them. Yeah. And then I quite like the idea of Denver and Golden State. as a series in the first round.
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They were resting guys. What do you want them to do? I don't know. They keep choosing. This is the game where Porter Jr. will sit out. This is the game that Jamal's going to sit up. Jamal's got an injury that needs some nursing.
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I'm flabbergasted by it. I don't understand it. And it doesn't look like, I mean. Why didn't they just fire the GM? That would have been fine.
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I told you. I think that Josh Kroenke should have stood up and said, this is on me. There was a moment a long time ago when somebody in that management structure should have intervened and said, we're not going to let this happen. We're not going to have a poisonous relationship and have tension inside this building.
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This is how they do it. They weren't patient.
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It doesn't make any sense.
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How are they going to salvage it?
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What's this?
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It's the end of the season. What are we doing?
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It reminds us, once again, it's just another chapter in this book that's called This is the Dumbest Fucking Thing in the History of Sports. Chapter 23. The first time that the player that we traded and then immediately started dragging down in every public forum we could.
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And then did a five-minute celebration video of all the incredible things that he did for that franchise to make them relevant They were on an ascending trajectory. I was excited to see them in these playoffs this year with Luka. I bet them to exceed their win total. I was bullish on this Dallas team. It's fine for him to have the injury that he had.