Jim
Appearances
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: I Quit
I was going to go to college and I had about a week off the summer and it was a Sunday and I met a bunch of friends on the beach and they had had a completely different summer experience than I had traveling. They're like, Oh yeah, the next week we're just going to hang out on the beach. This is what I should be doing. Tomorrow I'm quitting. And so I took the zinc sunblock.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: I Quit
I was like, I'm going to quit in a blaze of glory too. So I wrote on my chest, know this with a huge arrow to my crotch.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: I Quit
I was thinking like the crew's going to love this and all the four men are going to be like, oh man. Yeah. What was amazing is how well it worked. It was bone white on the Modus and then bright red everywhere else. And the arrow was huge. And so I worked all day. I was super excited about this. I am kind of a blabber. I normally will like spill it. I kept it all day.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: I Quit
I'm like, wait until everybody gets a load of this. And so we get back and you have to gather around, talk about what you got done and then where you're going the next day and who's on what crew. And I was like, all right. And so I ripped my shirt off. Nobody even looked at me. And then finally, someone looked over.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: I Quit
And I remember a guy just smoking a cigarette looking at me like, what in the world does this guy have? It was so embarrassing because I had to basically quit with my shirt off and be like, today's my last day.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: I Quit
My expectations in reality were really, really far apart. But to know this was on there for a while, leaving for your first week of school with this, not realizing you had communal showers.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: I Quit
I had a lot of manual labor jobs growing up. I think it instills a good work ethic. Oh, yeah.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: I Quit
It was really, really hot. There was one tornado warning, but people just come out of their house and are like, you can come stay with us. As a stranger, I stayed in someone's basement after biking 100 miles that day, smelling horrible, but they gave me a clean shower. And it was quite an experience to show how nice the people in Iowa are.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: I Quit
Do you want to sing a tune or something? I'm going to have a theme song. Oh. Okay, great.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: I Quit
I'm a fan of travel posters, but I'm also a cyclist. That's from RAGVRAI, which is a ride across Iowa. They do it every year from the Missouri River to the Mississippi River.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: I Quit
It is. I did the 50th anniversary and I think it was like 50,000 people.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: I Quit
I think the people from Iowa are some of the nicest people in the entire United States. They take you into their homes, they cook you meals. And every small town and every church is putting out like a bake sale. It's really neat.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: I Quit
I am talking to you from Richmond, Virginia, but I grew up in Virginia beach, Virginia, the summer of 1995. I just graduated high school. My dad actually worked at the school in the business office in this lawn care company, cut the grass at the school grounds. And he got me a job there. And I was like, oh, that'll be pretty good. They mostly did commercial lawn care.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: I Quit
That's the hope. I was like, we're going to be riding big riding mowers. The three of us are going to have a great time together and we'll spend all summer together just goofing off. And it was not bad at all. You do not get to ride the Dixie mower if you are one of only three people that are there for the summer. Everybody else is there full time doing the work. What we expected and what
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: I Quit
actually happened was a pretty far cry from each other. So the three of us were split up immediately. So they had different crews. You got there at sunrise, loaded up the trucks. One of my friends only made it two days. He was on the residential side and he got fired for jumping on somebody's trampoline and then getting hurt falling off of it. My other friend was like, this is terrible.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: I Quit
He made it like a month, then he quit. But I gutted it out all summer and I was exposed to some pretty cool stuff that I hadn't seen before. Like we one time went cut a shopping center lawn and the guy just walked right into the grocery store and came out with steaks all down his pants that he had just stolen. He's like, I'm going to sell these later.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: I Quit
And then he opened up the water cooler and just threw them all in there. And we're like, all right, I guess we'll just store your bloody steaks in the water cooler. Sure, sure. We just had to pile in the back of the truck. We went all over town all day long and it would rain. You just put a trash bag over you. I mean, it was not safe at all.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: I Quit
But we pulled up next to a car that had a failed inspection sticker and he offered to sell them a counterfeit one. Oh, my. I did not even know like state selling and sticker selling as well. I learned a lot about raunchy humor and drugs.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: I Quit
Yeah. A lot of masturbation jokes. Some of the people were really, really good, but the guys that ran it weren't. just assholes. I mean, they just run you straight ragged from the time you get up the sundown, you kind of come back and unload the truck and you never cut enough. They were like, Hey, we need to cut more. You should be out there. Go faster. Stop taking so many breaks.
Dateline NBC
A verdict in Chattanooga. A widow accused of murder. And how to avoid natural disaster scammers.
Probably will get really big. It's a crazy story. It's contrary to what he said in our interview.
Dateline NBC
A verdict in Chattanooga. A widow accused of murder. And how to avoid natural disaster scammers.
Good morning, Jim. You got a weather report?
Dateline NBC
An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
If this conduct does not rise to the level of bad faith, it certainly comes so near to bad faith as to show signs of scorching.
Dateline NBC
An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
Well, as in any case that we evaluate as medical examiner, we consider the scene investigation along with whatever evidence we have, the body. or whatever is left of the body. Maybe photos were taken. The metaphor examiner will consider all of that in its totality. Just like if you go into a doctor's office and you say, just figure out what's wrong with me.
Dateline NBC
An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
And she got about a $6 million payout from the perpetrators.
Dateline NBC
An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
It's the same when you have a dead body one day or a hundred years dead. You need to know the context.
Dateline NBC
An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
You have to learn how to interpret the decaying body as well as the skeletonized body. Because a gunshot wound, a stab wound, they may leave marks on the bone. that you can detect and they'll be present for many, many decades. There have been evaluations of, you know, mummies in terms of how did they die. The bones carry a lot of information.
Dateline NBC
An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
Certainly the remains can carry the poison, but it depends on the poison. There are so many drugs and chemicals and toxins in the world. So I think the first thing with the poisoning is you have to have a suspicion of it so that you're making sure you look for the category of poison that you're suspicious about.
Dateline NBC
An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
Now, that being said, as the body decays, so does the blood, so do chemicals in the body. And so it becomes harder to test for those.
Dateline NBC
An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
Well, certainly, I mean, I've been on multiple sides of that particular dilemma where my ruling may be questioned and maybe the police and I don't agree. But the medical examiner may have a reason for that determination or may not have considered it. the insulin overdose because it's a very subtle thing.
Dateline NBC
An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
I don't think exhumations are that easy to occur, especially legally. There has to be a certain burden of proof of the need to do it to further the case. But I've been involved in those court-ordered exhumations. And sometimes if there is trauma to the skeleton, then it's very worthwhile because you can show that and document that. And you can show the absence of that if that's important as well.
Dateline NBC
An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
But I always say that it isn't so much that You can't kill someone without leaving a trace. You can. What's really hard to get rid of is your motive. And so if you have a motive to kill someone and someone suspects that, then forensics is there to figure it out. Mary Jembelek, thank you so much for coming back. Thank you very much, Andrea.
Dateline NBC
An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
Karen, read that dog bite testimony. It's in.
Dateline NBC
An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
For what? to get whatever, anything that I thought I could use to help find my daughter.
Dateline NBC
An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
Yes.
Dateline NBC
An accused killer's surprising defense. A pharmacist on trial for poisoning. And a medical examiner's strategy for cracking cold cases.
It's the same when you have a dead body one day or 100 years dead. You need to know the context.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
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Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
How can we help you?
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
I'll just put my coffee down, boys. Now, boys, I'm going to go off a script. My wife keeps telling me that I waffle on too much and I go on tangents all the time. So I thought if I stick to a script, I'll best utilize your time.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
Your message is getting out there almost through osmosis and that's powerful. I personally haven't experienced anything like this, like your approach or your type of advice in the 50 years that I've been doing this stuff. So I hope you guys keep it up. I hope you guys don't change your formula or your approach because I want this message going out to my kids and now my grandkids.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
So very much appreciated. Thank you. Okay.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
All right. It's my challenge. Boys, psychopenia is a bitch. You guys are in your mid-40s, so you'd start to feel the effects just a little bit, but you could put it off as, you know, didn't get enough carbs the last 24 hours or something like that. But when you get to your early and mid-60s, trust me, boys, she becomes a vengeful bitch.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
And that's the core of my challenge or my question or my problem. Anyway, let me set up a framework for you. I'm 66, I'll be 67 next month. I picked up my first weights when I was 16 years old. And really, I haven't looked back since. Mind you, back in those days, I came from a very, very poor sort of background. My mum was a single mum. It was only me and my brother.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
And no money for anything other than food and a roof over our heads. So I had to be quite, what's the word? Probably creative. in terms of my first sort of gear that I created in the early 70s. So what I did was I made a bench out of an old bedhead. So it was an old wooden bedhead. I cut it out. I used pillows for the base and I just strapped it all down. Wow.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
For my weight stands, I used, well, I reappropriated. Maybe there's a better word than that. a couple of stop signs from our local council. Hopefully they won't be listening. And I cut off the stop signs and I just cut a slight. And that was my weight. That was my weight set up for five or six years. But anyway, it just shows you if you're committed, you can do it no matter what.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
All right, since then I've lived a life. I'm still married after 44 years to my gorgeous wife. I've raised three beautiful, successful children, and I'm now a nonno. And, Sal, you'll appreciate this. Both myself and my wife are of Italian heritage. I'm Sicilian. My wife comes from the north of Italy, a little place called Belluno, north of Venice.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
So we constantly have debates on what being Italian really is because we're so far apart. Anyway, through all these chapters of life, I've kept passionate to my weight training, all being the varying degrees of motivation and availability. Life gets in the way sometimes. And I've had my own set up in the garage here for about 30 odd years. So I've got no excuses. All right, fundamentals.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
I've been weight training 50 years. I weigh 78 kilos, which is about 172 pounds. I'm 175 centimetres tall, which is about 5 foot 9, but I'm shrinking. Another beautiful aspect of getting older. 27% body fat, according to my scale this morning. I average about 2,500, 2,600 calories a day. Always prioritise my protein. I get about 160 to 180 grams a day.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
For instance, this morning I'm going to have chicken thigh fillets for breakfast, which much to my wife's disgust. Now, I've always trained a four-day split, and that's part of my question that I'm coming to you guys with. I currently bench 200. I do squats and powerlifts. I know I've heard you guys go over and over and over this. I haven't done squats or powerlifts for most of my training career.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
I've only just started. The reason being is... I've always thought it puts too much pressure on my lower back. And some of the big gorillas I used to train with in the 80s and 90s, they've all got back issues now. And I've sort of justified that in my mind. But I'm coming around, and I'd like you to hammer that into me, I guess.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
In my training career, I've torn a pec, I've torn a lat, I've dislocated my shoulder about four or five times. I've torn my right bicep in half. I only have half a bicep in my right arm. All these things to show you that I am committed to what I do. I love it. Absolutely love it. I don't train hard anymore, but I am consistent. All right, what's my question?
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
I suppose I am starting to waffle on even now. Bloody hell.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
I think I should have got my wife to write this. All right. My question, look, guys, I've been listening to you for about two years now. Ever since my daughter came to me and said, hey, Dad, I'm getting married in six months. So I thought, oh, shit, I've got to get back to some sort of, some sort of a stick or some sort of rope, I guess. So.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
It took me six months to go through my traditional four-day split routine with some real weight, what I thought was some real weight. Constant injury and rehabilitation. Adam, I'm really associated with you and what you went through lately. Pure, utter frustration and not being able to do anywhere near what I thought I was capable of. And that realisation created havoc in my psyche, boys.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
I'm not the man I used to be. Anyway, I'm a stubborn Italian. I don't believe there's much new in the game since I purchased my Joe Weider bodybuilding system some 40-odd years ago. A squat is a squat is a squat. A bench press is a bench press. A curl is a curl. There's not much new in this space in my mind. Although... I did change when Arnie came out with his supinating bicep curls.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
I thought, shit, that's a good idea. Anyway, I wrote to you guys a couple of months back saying, hell, I'm stuck in this four-day split routine. I can't do anywhere near what I used to do. I wanted some ideas. I wanted someone to just hit me across the back of the head and say, Jim, do this or don't be stupid or whatever. But in writing that email to you guys, there was a realisation.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
I went out and bought Maps Anabolic. Now, it's the first time I've bought anyone else's program in 40-odd years. And I put my faith in you guys. But I've got a problem. I don't think there's enough volume in it for me. At the end of Phase 2, I'll start Phase 3 tomorrow. And I used to do five different exercises or four sets each just for my chest twice a week.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
I'm going down to just, you know, two exercises a week or three exercises a week for my chest. It's doing my head in, boys. I'm looking for guidance. I'm looking for inspiration. I'm looking for advice. Now, after that diatribe, What can I do, boys? What's your advice?
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
Of course, yeah.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
I haven't watched the whole series now.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
Boys, that sounds like a great, great approach. And for my psyche, that's what I need, I think. I think I need to have that as a comparison.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
And push myself back to how I like to push myself. You guys know it. Yeah, for sure. When you're pushing these things, it's such an ego boost just to – Just to feel your body. It doesn't have to be a big way, just to feel your body. So I appreciate that, Adam. I think that's a great idea, boys. I'd like to try that. I love that.
Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth
2539: Four Critical Things to Consider Before Getting Surgery & More (Listener Live Coaching)
Boys, you didn't disappoint. Thank you so much. It's exactly what I wanted to hear. Thank you, boys. Awesome. Appreciate it. You got it, my friend. Thank you, Jim.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Ask Charlie Anything 216: No Taxes Under $150k? Elon Musk Army?
Oh, yeah. Thanks for all you do. But I have kind of a question. I don't know if you have any evidence or anything, but I was wondering about the EPS Epstein files. We haven't heard anything about that. So here – yeah, go ahead, please.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Ask Charlie Anything 216: No Taxes Under $150k? Elon Musk Army?
I'm wondering if there's some kind of leverage that Trump is using with those – in other words, he had quite a few Democrats vote with him on the last – the deficit – raising the – Yeah, the debt ceiling. The debt ceiling. I want to say deficit. Yeah.
The Dan Bongino Show
Spending Bill Passes House And Everyone Loses Their Mind (Ep. 2440)
If we could just step back for a second. When President Trump last addressed the BRT when he was on the campaign trail, his big push was on tax cuts. He's going there today as he's proposing tax hikes in the form of tariffs. Not true. He's not doing that. And I'm curious for why he's prioritizing that over the tax cuts.
The Dan Bongino Show
Spending Bill Passes House And Everyone Loses Their Mind (Ep. 2440)
Because I have. They don't get charged on foreign companies. They get charged on the importers.
The Ramsey Show
Your Financial Journey Is a Marathon, Not a Sprint
Hello. I'm honored you're taking the time to help me and millions of others with our money questions. Well, thank you.
The Ramsey Show
Your Financial Journey Is a Marathon, Not a Sprint
I am a 40-year-old widower and ready to date again. However, my truck is 25 years old, and I perceive the ladies I want to date will judge me based on the vehicle I drive. It shouldn't matter, but as a guy of average height and average appearance, I don't have the charisma to overcome a poor first impression.
The Ramsey Show
Your Financial Journey Is a Marathon, Not a Sprint
The question is, should I spend $5,000 to $10,000 to buy a car for the sole purpose of dating to find my future wife?
The Ramsey Show
Your Financial Journey Is a Marathon, Not a Sprint
the truck i have been on a second date that was going i thought very well the conversation was good and when we walked out to the parking lot she said oh you're driving that and i never heard from her again but she doesn't know i try and i hide the truck on the other side of the parking lot i'll walk her to her car leave but hey listen that that's a good thing that you ran that one off
The Ramsey Show
Your Financial Journey Is a Marathon, Not a Sprint
Right, with the status symbol of choice, a BMW.
The Ramsey Show
Money Isn't the Problem—Your Behavior Is
Hey, thank you for taking my call. So my situation may be a little bit unique. I am 100% self-employed. And I recently just sold one of my businesses, the shares in that business. And me and my wife have been following the baby steps. We're on step two, paying off all our debt, and we're hitting it pretty hard. With my situation, though, I want to know if it's smart to...
The Ramsey Show
Money Isn't the Problem—Your Behavior Is
maybe put a hold on step two and go to three. And the reason is, is my income and my, my job is very seasonal. So when winter time comes, the income definitely slows down. Um, like right now I'm bringing in pretty good money and I'm applying it to a lot of the debts, but I'm afraid I'm going to pay down my debt so fast that I'm not going to have any money come winter just to survive. Yeah.
The Ramsey Show
Money Isn't the Problem—Your Behavior Is
With my line of work, that's impossible. The reason is because we do the jobs when the weather's good during the dry season summertime. But during the wintertime, I handle the permitting process. So the permitting process cannot stop. So it's lining up the jobs.
The Ramsey Show
Money Isn't the Problem—Your Behavior Is
I'm making right around $300,000, a little over $300,000. And I'm getting paid over five years. So I'm getting roughly $4,000, $4,500 a month out of that. And then in the month of August coming up, I will be getting a full $40,000 on top of that.
The Ramsey Show
Money Isn't the Problem—Your Behavior Is
I have $90,000 in vehicles, $20,000 in a recreational vehicle, and... I owe on my house. That's it. I owe $250 on the house, and we're definitely way ahead on the house.
The Viall Files
E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
Yeah, I guess he was connected to me originally. So I guess I could take the context from the top. We knew him in college. He was kind of a fringe part of our college friend group. For example, I lived in a house with eight guys. However, he wasn't in the house group chat, for example. However, he was in a different group chat with about 20 people. So a little bit on the fringe.
The Viall Files
E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
Sometimes we asked him to hang out out of pity. Sometimes he'd ask us to hang out a lot. However, a lot of people in the group didn't like hanging out with him because he would talk about himself a lot. He would talk about going to law school all the time. For example, he posted all of his acceptance letters in the 20 person group chat that I mentioned before.
The Viall Files
E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
He talked about scholarship money, his prestigious internship, et cetera, et cetera. So he got on our nerves a lot, but we often hung out with him because we felt bad that he didn't have many other friends to hang out with. Kind of making a long story short there. Well, fast forward a little bit to after graduation.
The Viall Files
E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
We both, my fiance and I moved to a big city after school and he happened to be there and we connected up with him and things were a bit different this time. He had a girlfriend who had the same credentials that he had. She went to the same law school as he did and she ended up working at the same firm. So we ended up liking hanging out with them because we thought she toned him down a lot.
The Viall Files
E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
She would call him out if he started talking about law too much. And she'd say like, hey, guys, hey, Max, which is his fake name. No one cares. So, however, over the last summer, things with that relationship started to become a little rocky, and he started to ask to hang out with us a lot more, reminding us of what happened in college.
The Viall Files
E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
Really, he started to ask us to hang out every week, and we really don't have that kind of time or energy to be able to... be that type of person for him last fall. So we follow our school's football team very closely as does he, and we would go to the bar to watch the game and he knew that. So we would almost every week go to the bar and watch the game with him.
The Viall Files
E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
And he has seemed to think that after the football season, that this weekly hangout can continue. And we definitely, Don't really know how to tell him that we hung out with him every week because we made time for the football game rather than for himself. And I guess I would wrap up with just a couple examples of what we're dealing with.
The Viall Files
E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
One, he makes reservations for us without us telling him that we could actually hang out on that day or go. A different example was we thought he genuinely once tried to trick us into hanging out with both Friday and Saturday that, no, I'm not going to be in town Saturday. And then I said at the beginning, you know, I really think he is going to be in town Saturday.
The Viall Files
E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
I don't want to hang out Friday. And then magically he was, in fact, in town Saturday and we saw him on Saturday. So, yeah, that's the that's the context. And we we don't necessarily want to break up with him as a friend. However, we just are tired of saying no all the time. We're tired of making up excuses. And then we also don't want to just hang out with them basically out of charity either.
The Viall Files
E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
There's a lot going on. However, we don't think he has many other friends to hang out with. He doesn't have many other friends from college to hang out with, from grad school, from high school to hang out with. That's why I think he keeps coming back to us, and it's a really big role for us to play.
The Viall Files
E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
Of all these cases that he's worked on. or look how many hours I worked this past week. And we heard from a different friend who's also a lawyer. And we told them the firm, we have no idea about the prestige of law firms. And we thought he worked at this top-notch firm, but apparently it's pretty solidly mid-tier. So I guess that's another example.
The Viall Files
E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
Not directly, no. Some indirect messaging doesn't seem to work. So I guess there's another lawyer that we're friends with. And we say, hi, hey. filling girl's name that I can't think of. Why don't we hear about your job? And I guess a subtle joke doesn't really land.
The Viall Files
E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
So we, I think internally are probably in the place where, yeah, a more direct conversation is probably in store because more subtle ways of doing so or trying to get him to take a hint is probably not going to work at this point.
The Viall Files
E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
That's the problem. It's been going on for a very long time. You think that they'll grow out of it, but it's probably part of the time in his life right now going through a breakup. But the problem is that we've seen this pattern before and that this isn't just a one-time thing. He'll get through it. He'll get through with this. It's, oh, we think this is who he actually is.
The Viall Files
E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
Or maybe he takes it as a joke, but we actually 90% mean it seriously.
The Viall Files
E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
Yeah, it always seems like he's trying to prove something. And I feel like he's trying to prove himself through his career, I guess. Yeah. Is he good looking?
The Viall Files
E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
Yeah, I would also say some happenstance that we happen to be living near in the same city, which is where we went to school. So, yeah, but you're right. We could have broken up with him by now, but it's hard because we feel bad for him.
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E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
yeah that'll be tough yeah it will be coming at some point but yeah there's no way he can come i don't think so i mean i i i'm not surprised but just out of curiosity when you say there's no way why because he like he would be that much crazy i don't want him i don't want to be driven crazy on my bachelor party this is one of my times i can be selfish
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E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
A point that you brought up earlier that's sticking with me is that in the end we have nothing to lose.
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E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
We lose him as a friend, I guess, which is not something I don't think that we're going to really miss that companionship. However, I think it will stick with us in terms of feeling bad for him. But, oh, another question I have is, I think it seems like he needs to get help for himself. And we're talking like professional help or a therapist. Sure.
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E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
Is that a conversation that we can start or is that an out of balance conversation?
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E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
I think we would have to probably brainstorm that ourselves. Also a problem, a little bit of a problem with that. Kind of is we mostly hang out with him at bars and restaurants. And that's kind of an awkward place to do that. We don't usually go to each other's apartments. So I feel like... Are you expecting shouting? Shouting?
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E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
No, I guess what I'm associating going to a bar with sports and beer and TVs is something a little more laid back, relaxed. We're just trying to enjoy ourselves. So...
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E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
Yeah. I have a question. Have you, with your hot lawyer friend, did you ever have a conversation like this with him or did things kind of just fizzle out?
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E897 Ask Nick - Am I A Nag?
Having the mindset that we're trying to help him the whole time is probably the way to go. And if we're trying to go backwards from we're trying to help him, then we can find a way to word this, to bring it out to him in a way that he can receive it. And the way he receives it, though, is just out of our control.