Casey O'Brien
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My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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And I'm Casey O'Brien, podcast producer, filmmaker, and lover of movies.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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They're beautiful. Thank you. They really are gorgeous.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Oh, okay. Wait, can we try and do this?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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He wants your microphone.
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We want to talk about all the movies we're crushing on, from hidden gems to blockbuster favorites.
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The end. The End
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So exciting. Like, this is when everything was just like popping off in a really unexpected, insane way. Yeah. Like, we just didn't know what the hell was happening.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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That's right. So join us as we take you back to August 11th, 2016, because now you can basically all be day one listeners.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah. And you never covered Robert Pickton, which I think is a good thing, right? I do, too.
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Wasn't I sick? And so I was an hour late because I was napping and just didn't put the time correct because I was like... Because I was like literally had a cold on stage.
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That's what touring is. It's just a delay to get to a place to wait. Yeah. To do homework. Right. And not look at anything about the city. And then have 3,000 people cheer for you. Yeah. Did you see this update that Robert Pickton was murdered in prison just this past June? Right. Yeah. Wow.
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No, there's a few of these murders that I feel like we'll never do. And we've talked about it. This is one of them. The speed box. Toy Box Killer, the Speed Freak Killers, and then Charles Ng, I feel like we'll never do. Just because like, you read it. And it's just, there's just, it's just an empty pit of fucking horribleness.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Especially in a quarantine, for example. Right. Right. Which we were in for quite a while, if I remember correctly. We were in for quite a while. Real quick, before we get into your story, we did mention Marissa Hargitay's nonprofit. It's still going on. It's called the Joyful Heart Foundation.
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In the light of everything, everything is problematic. Yeah, that's very true. So let's listen to the intro to episode 29. Welcome to My Favorite Murder. That's Karen Kilgariff. That is Georgia Hardstart. You know, no one can tell our voices apart still. I know, it's pretty weird. Someone said to say, I love when the hometown murders are people sending in like,
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And since 2004, Joyful Heart has been a leading national organization with a mission to transform society's response to sexual assault. domestic violence, and child abuse, support survivors' healing, and end this violence forever.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah. And hey, while we're here, let's donate 10 grand to the Joyful Heart Foundation. Love it. Great idea. Cool. How do you get these ideas? It's just, they just come into my mind. I don't even know how. Speaking of ideas coming from nowhere, let's listen to your epic story. This is like a classic. Karen telling the story of John List.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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So they look like any family. Oh my God. I just picture her at like a party and she's just drunk and like, but she looks amazing. Yes. I love it.
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I know secret information about the case you already covered. Yes. Because I know people from the whatever the fuck. We love that. And someone was like, last week sent us one and was like, Karen, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but it was my case. Yeah. I was like, I'm sorry.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Oh, yeah.
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Oh my God. Karen, that was the best. That was what I was looking for. Because I love food details.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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No, that was beautiful.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah. Or pickles. Or you're just going to double down.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah. But I always, you know me and the starches. Oh, right. Yeah. Well, sure. Everyone can start, but you just don't keep them in your house. I don't eat them all. That's right. I mean, not you. One. One.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Honey.
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is a different story.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Once in the chest and once in the face, I get. Something went worse than wrong or he hated him more. Like something went.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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what horrible I am. It's like you're ruining my plan. You're ruining my good time.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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But yeah, I mean, I, I just think it's precious. It's so weird. I feel like we're such different people. There was a fucking thing on Facebook that was like, are you a Karen or a Georgia? Yeah. Did you see that? And it made me sad. Why? Because I was like, nobody wants to be me. Were they both bad? No, everyone loves you.
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Are the fish okay? Is this, I mean, as much as, cause I need to put a name on things. Is this sociopath? Yeah.
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I knew she talked to him about something. Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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And I'm not, I was just, everyone's like, I'm a Karen, but my best friend is a Georgia. So that's fine. I'm a Karen. How do we, and then people were like, it's funny how people will explain to other people how you can tell the difference between us. And it's that you sing everything. Yes. That's me.
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I'm going to cry because there's an intercom in this house, A, and because there's organ music. So you're jealous of the intercom. Yeah, because that's so cool.
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And organ music is the creepiest thing I've ever heard.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Where it's like, oh God, no. Okay, I was going to go deep. Go on.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I guess so.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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So I fucking slayed them all. Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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People get mad at us. It's a five-off. Sorry. It's a five-off. Okay. We're not saying all narcissists are murderers. Right. But however, this is an extreme case of narcissism.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Oh, my God.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah. It's like a moving box that you just couldn't... Yeah.
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Are you really? Because you never told me and I feel like I thought we knew, I thought I knew you. No, I don't. It's also because it's such a special thing that you do alone. I think it's wonderful that you have that time to yourself. Well, sometimes at my house, like I'm home at the end of the night.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Look, Stephen.
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Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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We'll put it on social media. I'll put this on our Insta.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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No way. She had a fucking, she had a veil of, I can't over her fucking eyes. And I bet a little Vin Rose, a little Rose, a little bottle of Rose.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yes, you go. You absolutely guessed it out of the blue.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Karen, you're living...
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Smoker.
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Do you hand roll them yourself? Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah. Exciting. Pick one of those names.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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It's almost like he's trying to prove to himself that he's actually a good person. It was just circumstantial. It was them.
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I feel like... in the 50s that might have worked better than in the 70s and 80s that excuse or like especially the 80s but like that that came to an end it seems like right because it well that was also like the oldest version of like there's only a father that's the breadwinner it's never the mother and no one gets divorced and this is the the american dream you have to have a house and two kids
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And then when that doesn't work, they don't know how to deal with it. Oh, man. When the 70s come and the daughter's like, I'm going to go crazy.
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Oh, she's like, fuck this guy. Yeah. Get out of here. You're showing me the fucking face and then wouldn't even carry me to the ballroom. But are you ready for this twist ending? Oh, that's not it. Yeah. This is it.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Oh, my God. That's going to be someone's new ringtone, by the way.
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Cooper for a while.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Oh, for sure.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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You know? Okay, maybe he thought... I don't know. Do Lutherans like Jesus? Maybe he thought Jesus would... Help out? Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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The Lord said it was right there all along. You know that whoever burnt that house down was fucking bummed they didn't know that too.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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There was some real estate agent that ran up at the last... What are you doing?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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You ghosts and your arson. okay, we're back.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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When the end days come, there's going to be no record of this. So it doesn't matter.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah. But also, I mean, why would he, you know, have ever listened to this podcast? But also that he was in the courtroom when John List... Oh, my God.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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It's just like, sir. It was a little like, you've maybe never heard of this one. And it's like,
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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It was the glass ceiling. Like a skylight. Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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This is all going to be wiped off.
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Let me throw this in there. Okay. Do you think, a.k.a. I bet... he still would have found something later to kill them all for. He would have sold that skylight or light thing, used the hundred grand. He still would have fucking killed them on something else.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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It's not getting out of debt and everything's fine and everyone's happy. He wanted to and he found a way to do it.
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Yeah. And he specifically, this story is just so cold and calculated. The whole cutting the face out of his face out of the pictures and just I mean, it's just so sick. Are there any updates? I know he's dead, but anything more?
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Delta is the first fucking, is the first... Airplane line that'll go down? No, it just went down like yesterday. Delta what? They had like a blackout. Really? At their main hub and everything was grounded and it's like... Across the country? Yeah, they're like, there was just a glitch. And you're like, bullshit. Bullshit.
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Yeah.
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And that his fucking new wife was sitting next to him and didn't recognize him or just, you know, maybe something in her head did. But it's like a movie. Can you imagine? Jesus. Can you imagine?
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All right. All right. What's yours? So I have one that I learned about recently because it happened recently. And we're going to, Karen, we're going to do a little play. Okay. This whole, this theme, what is this theme? Drama, drama teachers. All right. You mean for this episode? Yeah. Yeah, the drama teacher's episode.
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All right, so Warina Wright, W-A-R-I-E-N-A, Warina Wright was 26 from New Zealand and she went to Queensland, Australia on July 29th, 2014 to celebrate a friend's wedding. Checks into a motel on August 6th and then on the following day is like, let's see who's on Tinder.
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do you know this one no okay so she fucking tinder's beautiful girl she looks like a little bit a little gothy but not you know she's hot so she finds gable toasty's tinder they he's this like hot ladies man they meet up outside of a bar on uh the 6th I just want to say, by the next morning, Warina will be dead after falling from Gable's 14th floor balcony. That's how this goes. That's not good.
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Back to that night. By 9 p.m., they're in his apartment on the 14th floor. Okay. This beautiful building. So, somehow... Gable, which is a great name, isn't it? It's his first name. First name? I don't know. I like it. For some reason, he starts recording what's going on inside with a voice recorder. police somehow extracted it from, um, like mobile phones that were found. I think it was tried.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Whenever I hear those things and I was like, someone, there was just a glitch.
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They tried to delete. He tried to delete it. It didn't happen. They were able to get it. So, so there's, um, there's a whole, uh, there's a whole conversation that's recorded. So, yeah. So I'm going to read, but I, yeah. Okay. I'm going to read. I highlighted your parts. Okay. Oh, you're, you're Warina. I'm Gable. Um, But let me read it to you also. Okay. So at 1 a.m., the sound recorder started.
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And it's later ceased. But the recording starts. Music's heard. And 20 seconds into the recording, the man states, fuck me. At 1.02 a.m., the man asks the female to chill and have a drink. And she says she is, I'm a psycho drunk and do not test me. Then at 1.05, between 1.05 and 1.08, the pair talk about death. The male says, throw me off the balcony and that's it. This is it. Boom.
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Then at 1.16 a.m., there's laughing sounds are heard and sounds of hitting are heard as well. But the music continues to play in the background. And that was scary. It was a phone queue. And there are soft sounds of groaning. Okay. At 1.29 a.m., the male says, I don't like getting beaten up. At 1.36 a.m., the argument begins when the female says she's leaving and can't find her iPhone.
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She says, are you going to fucking untie me because I will fucking destroy your jaw. and then vince unlocked the door and scared the ever-loving oh man elvis vince abril um Okay, you're going to untie me, blah, blah, blah. So at 1.38, the man says, I should have never given you so much to drink. I thought we were going to have fun. And then he asks her to calm down.
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They're down there and they're fucking with the mainframe. Man. Don't even. How much did you love, as soon as I heard this... on Stranger Things that they had a fucking MKUltra line. Wait, really? Did you watch it all? No, I think I have like two left or three left. Have you been to the possible Eleven's mom's house yet? No. Yes. They mentioned MKUltra. Oh, that's why she's like that?
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At 1.41 a.m., the man asks the female to stay but says, you're just a bit violent. He offers to cook some food and the conversation calms down. Oh, no. At 1.53 a.m., more drinks are poured. Stop drinking, you guys. Yeah, you already decided the drinking's bad. Yeah. At 2 a.m., the occupant of the apartment below is woken up by the noise. At 2.10 a.m.,
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In the audio recording, the male tells the female to relax and threatens to kick her arse. At 2.11 a.m., there's sounds of struggle. A minute later, the sounds of rocks possibly being thrown in the apartment is heard. At 2.14, the man says, that's enough. You've worn out your welcome. You have to leave. The female, out of breath, says, okay.
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At 2.15 a.m., the man says, I thought you were kidding and I have taken enough. This is fucking bullshit. You're lucky I haven't chucked you off my balcony, you goddamn psycho little bitch. At 2.16 a.m., the female, who is breathing heavily, accuses him of being a sexist and then says, lay off, to which the male replies, seriously, what? At 2.17 a.m., the man says, you're a goddamn psycho.
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I'm going to let you go. I'm going to walk you out of this apartment just the way you are. You are not going to collect any of your belongings. You are just going to walk out and I'm going to slam the door on you. Do you understand? If you try and pull anything, I'll knock you out. Do you understand? The female says, I'm so sorry. I don't care. Okay, so the fall.
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At 2.17 a.m., sounds of struggling and heavy breathing are heard. The man says, let go of it, let go, let go, let go. At 2.18, the first choking sounds are heard. Breathing slows. Male, let it go. Sounds of a metallic object dropping is heard. At 2.20 a.m., a door unlocks and the female states, no. The sound of a glass door possibly being hit.
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2.20, the man says, who the fuck do you think you are, hey?
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The male says, you tried to kill me, huh? Well, why did you try and hit me with that? Shut your filthy mouth. The female, I'm not gonna scream, screams now. But she's screaming, no, no, no, no, no, no. The man says, it's all on recording, you know, it's all being recorded. The female, a lot more no's, just let me go home. The male says, I would, but you've been a bad girl.
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And then the sounds are heard of a door slamming shut. Police at this point allege that he left her out on the balcony, missed right on the balcony. The female says... Just let me go home.
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At 2.21 a.m., a female's final words are heard.
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Faint screaming is heard. You're looking at me like I'm going to... It's horrible. Okay, so put that down. All right. So... The occupant in the apartment below his hears a female repeatedly shouting no and then sees two legs dangling down. So what's going on right now is either she's crazy and drunk and jumping or she's terrified of this person and trying to get to the balcony below. Yeah.
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So the witness says, in a matter of seconds, I saw the person fall from the balcony above mine. At 2.21, a call is placed from Gable's phone to his lawyer. The call doesn't connect. At 2.23, a triple O, which I'm guessing is 911, call is placed by the woman in the apartment below. Police arrive at the scene. And at the same time, the fob key to his apartment is activated. Okay.
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Close caption cameras capture a male believed to be Gable approaching the front entrance of the apartment and he walks back to the elevator and rides it to the basement. At 2.29, sounds of walking are heard in the audio recording, which is still going from earlier in the night. So he has the phone or whatever he's using to record recording.
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what's going on with him or in the apartment with him with him he's like in the in the so sorry he's recording this entire evening he's recording the whole thing and people said he might have done it because he was like a creepy pervert and like to record these things or he took home a lot of women and this is a way to like assure that nothing oh you know just to have it if they go crazy or if yeah either way it's sketchy yeah 3 10 a.m he orders a pizza
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Yeah. He says, a pizza supreme, please. He orders a fucking slice of pizza. At 3.23 a.m., a call is placed to his father. He says, hello, dad. I might have gotten a bit of a situation. I met a girl for a date. She started getting aggressive. We kept drinking. And I think she thought it was like a joke. And she kept like beating me up because she was really drunk.
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And I forced her out on the balcony. And I think she might have jumped off. And the dad says, oh, no. Um, are you okay? Yeah. So there's a million cops booking, walking around. I'm fucked up. I don't have to do the, um, he says, I don't know. I like, I tackled her on my floor inside the building and I never forced her over the edge. So the dad picks him up and, uh, eventually he's arrested.
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Yeah, because she was one of the people they were experimenting on. Has anyone listened to this? I don't want to spoil anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Spoilers.
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And, uh, So, yeah. So he's claiming he's innocent. She jumped. He has nothing to do with it. He didn't push her over the edge. It's not murder. He's set for trial on October 13th, 2016. But he's free right now. He's out on bond. And he can't stop talking. He's posting shit on bodybuilders.com. Oh, no. He doesn't understand why people are... He has to be somewhat narcissistic. Yeah.
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Oh, you mean like he needs to say what his side of it is? Yeah, but he's also saying things about how many women he's been with and he's never hurt them. So he's like bragging about that, how nice his apartment was, how well he does.
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saying it's a witch hunt, but prosecutors think he could be convicted for murder because she was reportedly in fear of her life and was trying to flee him to the apartment below. Who says that? Those neighbors? The prosecutors say that. Oh, okay. And I'm really interested... I really like... But I'm really interested in murder by suicide. I think it's really interesting.
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Like there's that one case of there was the road rage incidents on a bridge in Detroit and this man was coming at the woman who had rear-ended him.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Or maybe she just already was being a little crazy.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
Yeah. I'm not victim blaming. They were clearly very drunk. Maybe he liked to record his... Sex. Sex.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah, it's not from what he's saying. But here's the thing. He's the only one who knows it's being recorded. So what he's saying about her attacking him is very specific. And someone on like a Reddit said, or maybe on the Facebook page said, when my boyfriend was beating me up, he'd say, he'd yell, stop it. What are you doing to me? Why are you doing this?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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To like get the neighbors to think that she was doing something to him or just to fuck with her in her mind. Yeah. So it could be that. It could just be in what it sounds like happened from when I read the transcript, which I fucking stayed up all night reading it. It was like, it's so crazy is, um, You know, they were having rough sex. Maybe she wasn't completely coherent.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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She comes to and is freaked out by it and is trying to get out but doesn't know how and he's telling her to calm down because he tells her to calm down a couple times. Right. I think at one point she realized what was happening and picked something up to throw at him and he gets so angry at that because you can hear him say like, you've been a bad girl. She's trying to defend herself.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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He's like, I'm going to have to lock you out on the balcony to protect myself. But the whole time she's been the victim and she's freaking the fuck out. And she's drunk and fucked up. And so she thinks the best option is to go over the side of the edge and get to the balcony below, which.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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It's like, yeah, it only works when stunt men do it. Yeah. Anyone in their right mind would never try that. And so she clearly wasn't in her right mind.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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No, I don't know. It's not like that. I don't know what her blood alcohol level was. I don't know if they tested her for drugs. Maybe they're keeping all of that for the trial. Yeah. It sounds like that's the story he's trying to push with this recording.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Is like, you've gone crazy. But he's feeding her alcohol, too.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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So even if it's like, well, look how drunk she was. I mean, his own recording is going to be the thing that convicts him, I feel like.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
I mean, I wonder if he was so fucked up and didn't know what was going on, it would almost be like he would go lay down or something or go hide or, you know, like I don't think... But also if you...
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Right.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I have the kind of insomnia that you can't fall asleep in front of television. I've never fallen asleep in front of maybe wrestling. That's Vince's fault. Wow, we couldn't be more different.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
Yeah. And what people present you.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
Yeah. I feel like the harder you try to defend yourself on social media, the worse you seem and the more people can pick it apart. Yes, for sure. Because I mean, you know, web sleuths have got, have gotten ahold of this, the website web sleuths have gotten ahold of this and are like,
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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picking it apart and they think there's been some comments by, by fake accounts he's made that just know too much about the details.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah. It's like he, he's his own worst fucking enemy.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah. Oh, okay. But he's being, you know, it's Australia, so I don't know. I feel like he's being indicted or there's going to be a trial to indict him in October. Oh, okay. Wow. From what I can tell from Australian legal ease. Isn't that fucked up? Yeah. The poor girl, but this whole situation. Guys, don't meet strangers on Tinder. Not, oh man, I'm going to get in trouble for slut shaming.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
That's not slut-shaming. But it's so crazy that people just like... That's just dating, though.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
Well, now I wonder how bad it is. I can't fall asleep now without listening to the Sleep With Me podcast. Like I can't. You're his slave. I'm his slave. So I wonder if someday they're going to be like, it's worse than falling asleep to TV because he's infiltrating my dreams. That's right. Well, if he is from NK Ultra, you're screwed. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm kind of okay with it.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
It's just your playlet. It's also weird at the very end when he's like, I've been recording it. Like he uses it to throw it in her face somehow, almost like. You can't prove anything? Yeah, you can't prove anything or. Like, why would he use that against her if he, you know, if nothing had happened that he could call the cops for or press charges for?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
Well, and also, he never called the cops, right? No, and he didn't let her go either. Like, at one point, she was like, I'm getting my shit and I'm leaving. Where's my phone? And he, like, stopped her from leaving. Yeah. So she was freaked out and wanted to leave, too. Both of them were. You know, if you had a person this just throw this out there.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
Like if you just go, yeah, get out. What are you trying to get out of the situation if you want to keep the person who's crazy and abusive toward you? Yeah, around. You're getting something out of it or it's not as it seems. Right. Well, there's a third option that I mean, abusive people, you know, it's the gaslighting technique where abusive people are like, why are you being so crazy?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
Like, this isn't that big of a deal. Right. And the people who that works on, it works very well.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
I don't know what the rocks are. I wonder if she was just almost incapacitated, almost incoherent. You know what I mean? Where it's like you're not yet... You're just like you're aware that you're in a situation that's not good because she's not forming complete sentences most of the time. Yeah. She's just saying she's reacting. Right. That's right. Hmm. That's crazy. I know.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
And then you have to assume she was naked on the balcony, too. Oh, really? I think so. She's definitely barefoot, but I don't. I'm not sure if she's naked. Oh, okay. So check that out. I didn't think of that. Facts and things. Well, yeah. That's fucked up, right? Yeah. I've been thinking about that one for a long time.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
Oh, shit.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
Oh, my God. Wait, what are these microphones doing on our faces?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
Yeah, I have a couple of case updates. After a week-long trial in October of 2016, a Supreme Court jury in Brisbane acquitted Gable Totsie of both murder and manslaughter charges in the death of Lorena Wright. So I had done this story before it had even gone to trial, and he was acquitted.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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And since then, Totsie has been going by a different name, and his name has popped up in the news a few times since, usually tied to stories about his dating life or drinking habits, and just, like, fuel his notoriety. And there's just some, you know, he gets into trouble. It seems like it's just... I want to know what really happened. I don't know if we ever will that night, you know?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
Do you think he's so great? You're fine with it? I'm fine with it. Whatever his agenda might be. Like same with Elvis when everyone and no one is like, oh, they, you know, you get a virus from cats and it takes over your brain and makes you a zombie. I'm like, I don't care. He's so cute. He's so nice. He's so sweet.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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And so it's hard to be like, he got acquitted. So you want to be like, you don't want to talk shit on this person because what if he's not, if he's innocent, this whole thing was this terrible right.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah. And it's just like such a sad, tragic, unnecessary death of this young woman. And that's really what it comes down to. Yeah, that's right.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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But I bet I made that up. I don't remember. But I don't think that would be something you suggested. I really don't think I would have.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
Literally.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
I wonder how much longer it is until we stop fucking naming things after numbers. It's got to be pretty close. 29 is the fucking is all we got. That we just were like, we need a different gimmick here. Please. All right.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
So if we were naming the episode today based on things we said in the episode, we could call it happy clap, which I love because that's what Stephen does when Karen talks about Nico Case, which is the cutest. I see Stephen sitting cross-legged on the floor doing his happy clap. His quiet sound guy happy clap. Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
Yeah, that's when we had to make Vince and the cats go in a different room, go in the one bedroom of my one bedroom apartment. We were recording and he like couldn't make a noise or come out or do anything.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
We really were. And once in a while I'd scream, Vince, what was the name of that movie? Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Still doing it.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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He really is. Thank you guys for listening to this episode of Rewind and for sticking with us and still being here.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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And don't get murdered.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
If he thinks I need to be a zombie, then I'll, you know, he knows what's best for me. Sure. Absolutely. Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yay. We love her. Love Nico Case.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
It's too... It's too something for me, but I don't know what yet. Too many pigs? Too many pigs, man. No, it's just, yeah, I don't know. Well, so there's... It's too making a murderer. Oh, OK. In a lot of different ways. Go ahead.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 29: Twenty-Nein
You know what? I want to do mass murders because I feel like I won't give enough time to each of the women. I'd rather do this is what the victim was, who the victim was, their story. Right. Then here's who the murderer was. And it's like, and there's 19 women. Right.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I know every time you get upset, but let's pause it.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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That's, I'm still trying to think of a way that we can donate part of the proceeds or like help some way with the untested rape kit situation.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Marshka, Mariska. Mariska Hargitay. Thank you. Mm-hmm. I want to give her all my money and like. Do it. Yeah. Georgia was in a manic episode and Karen, she gave a multimillionaire all her money.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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It all ends in a lawsuit between you and I. Oh, I didn't see that coming. Because of my undiagnosed manic. No, I don't have that.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Well, we have live shows like you guys were in the fucking process of like having live shows be a part of our lives. Yeah. And a part of your lives, Texas.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Can I just say that once we got all this information about our numbers and then we were driving home and we almost had to pull over to start crying with how happy we both were. But how well this is. What a great... It's pretty nice. It's pretty great.
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Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I love you guys. Thanks for listening. Okay. I also want to say really quickly that... In therapy, one of the things I talked about was that how crazy I am and how much anxiety I have because when I go to the back of my building to do laundry, I lock my front door. And how crazy is that that I think someone's going to break in? And then I read an article. There's a fucking Echo Park rapist.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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And one of the ways he got into her house was when she was doing fucking laundry in the back of her apartment and she left her door unlocked and went in.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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the article and said in your face bitch no because she was like you know yeah now she doesn't want to see me anymore and now she said find someone else no she because she was like you know we're allowed to take certain precautions and that's okay and you can do that but when you start you know blah blah blah then it's so she supported it and i was like i feel so justified
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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much louder voice that says sorry to offend you but you don't get to in case you had the idea right maybe you're on some white drug so like when you're sitting at a stop sign and someone goes to walk by and you go click to lock your car door yeah yeah you're like well they're gonna get mad at me fuck you well because you look creepy that's a good way to let someone know they look creepy yeah i get the idea because you're giving me the eye yeah so yeah i'm
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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There could be new listeners who don't yet know to fuck politeness.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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You'll have a lot of experiences in your life that'll make you question.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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It feels really good because literally that was a worry every single time I walk out back. is I come in the door and I check for the cats because if the cats were still out where they were, that meant no one was in there because, but if they were hiding, that would mean someone came in the house. Right. That's crazy.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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What a miracle. Texas was there in the beginning. They were there hard for us. They do that. They do everything a little hard, like horror.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah, that was, they were like, and then we met them as they were returned to the hotel and returned to the, like to not being us. Yeah. And they were very funny. Yeah. That's Texas to me. That's Texas in my heart. It was a beautiful night. It's so funny that that was the beginning of, are you a Karen? Are you a Georgia? Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 28: I 28 His Liver With Some Fava Beans and A Nice Chianti
I was dressed appropriately.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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And I'm Casey O'Brien, podcast producer, filmmaker, and lover of movies.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 28: I 28 His Liver With Some Fava Beans and A Nice Chianti
We want to talk about all the movies we're crushing on, from hidden gems to blockbuster favorites.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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The end. The End
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Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 27: Your Hometown Murder Email Round-Up
And I'm Casey O'Brien, podcast producer, filmmaker, and lover of movies.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 27: Your Hometown Murder Email Round-Up
We want to talk about all the movies we're crushing on, from hidden gems to blockbuster favorites.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 27: Your Hometown Murder Email Round-Up
The end.
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27.
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And I'm Casey O'Brien, podcast producer, filmmaker, and lover of movies.
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We want to talk about all the movies we're crushing on, from hidden gems to blockbuster favorites.
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465 - You’re Kidding Yourself, Supt
And I'm Casey O'Brien, podcast producer, filmmaker, and lover of movies.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
465 - You’re Kidding Yourself, Supt
We want to talk about all the movies we're crushing on, from hidden gems to blockbuster favorites.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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The end. The End
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464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Yeah. Yeah, I would say I think that's right on. I think there are some like gateway directors that are like kind of like how, you know, cinephiles sort of like found their way into movies for my age. You know, Millie mentioned I'm very young that. So like I would say Paul Thomas Anderson is a really good director to kind of.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
follow his career because he did like boogie nights which is uh art house film i would say but also like a major uh studio film um but then you know he did like there will be blood a few years later which is a lot i would say darker and weirder and um that was like nominated for like best picture and stuff but it kind of is a good way to like get into um
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
More of the like highbrow, you know, cinephile movies. And then so that's like more on the easier end. And I would say like, you know, we're recording this today. One of the great film directors died. David Lynch, my favorite director. And he's like a great actor.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
he's kind of you have to if you want to get into film you have to see some of his movies and i would say the entry point for that for him would be blue velvet i would say yeah it's a weird but it feels weird it feels like this is like no other movie i've ever seen but the plot makes sense and you can understand why things are happening where that cannot
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
be said for most of his other movies so that's like a good if you want to get into David Lynch I would say start with Blue Velvet
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Oh, it felt really good, though. Pros. We're just pros at this.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Yeah, totally.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
to a great one. Yeah. Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Well, I think David Lynch is special as an artist, uh, outside of like the movies he made because he, His whole thing was like, you do not need to suffer to make great art. That was like his big message. And I think that a lot of people feel like when you make art or any sort of like project, you're like, you need to die for this. You need to starve yourself, you know?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
And I feel like David Lynch was very much like, no, you need to be like, it's better to be a happy person. making art and you can still make art about dark things. And God knows he did, but it's like, you still need to like take care of yourself. And I think that's a good message.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
I was shocked. I looked on Letterboxd and no one I follow has watched it. And I was surprised because I was like, it's an incredible film.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Yeah, well, you know, the name of the podcast is Dear Movies, I Love You. So it is kind of, you know, we say it's having a crush on movies. It's an infatuation with movies. It's a sincere celebration of film and film culture. And we just want it to be accessible to everyone.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
I'm a lover, I'm a feeler, and I love digging up these rom-coms no one's watching.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Yeah, you've been behind the scenes now. Oh my God, finally. Yes, I get to emerge from behind the, I don't know. The sweet spot. Yeah, no, I'm thrilled. I mean, it was such an honor that Millie... reached her hand down into the gutter and pulled me out of it and allowed me to be on this pod. Yeah, like Pennywise, yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Well, I saw what you did was ending and Millie wanted to do another show and I was kind of like, well, I was like, Please let me produce it. So that was sort of the impetus, just Millie making a new movie show.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Yeah. I mean, it was just so funny. I feel like up until recently, you're like just checking in, you want to do this show with me. Right. And, um, No, I mean, I feel like Millie and I always like we always connected really well. And I wanted to keep working with her if she wanted to keep making podcasts. So that was sort of the like the beginning of the show.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
People because, you know, Millie and I, we can get in the weeds about like art house bullshit, but we like but we want to talk about it in a way that's like fun. And we also we like highbrow. We like really lowbrow, too. And so we want it to be like an inviting, fun, cute podcast. Yeah. Millie, anything to add to that?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
This is a great question. And actually, I feel like a lot of our show is like about the like movie watching ritual to like what we do when we watch movies. I always get popcorn and I always try to get a cherry Coke. Those are kind of my favorites.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
go-to it's hard for me to incorporate candy into it because I if I need the I need the pop and then I need but the candy and the pop is just too much sweetness so I don't know that's the popcorn and cherry coke is my go-to that's lovely that's nice
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Wait, so you feel self-conscious chewing when the movie has started? You think you need to scarf the food?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
There, you know, I'm peeking at the right when the movie starts and then I can pick my spots when I. It's not out of respect though.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
The Arclight was a good place to spot celebrities, I feel like, or like known people. I don't know why this guy popped into my head, but I was seeing Nope at the Arclight. I think it was Nope, or it was Us, one of the Jordan Peele movies, and Tom Morello was getting popcorn. A Rage Against the Machine guitarist was getting popcorn.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Beverly Center.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Oh, man, we're Farrell for Farrell.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Millie had kind of a crazy one recently. This isn't a good memory, but this is something bad that happened where someone was throwing a fire cracker during Furiosa.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Memorable film or movie theater experience? Well, I mean, I kind of talked about this on one of our episodes where I had to yell at those old people because they were in my seat. Yeah. I've had a lot of issues with people sitting in my seat when it's a reserved seat. I don't know how you both feel about the reserved seats in the movie theaters, but I like it.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
I like having a reserved seat for myself. And my wife and I were in the theater. It was like a sold-out theater. We were seeing the big short, and we got there right when the movie started, and there were these – So I go to the – this is at the Arclight, and I go to the guy working, and I'm like, where are our seats? I can't even see. It's so dark.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
And he's like, they're up there, but I can see that there's a guy sitting in your seat, so you're going to have to ask him to move. And I'm like, oh, God. So basically it was this elderly couple, and they're – imagine there are four seats, and they own two of them. But they're sitting in the middle, and we own two of them, but they're sitting in the middle two. Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
They have to scoot over one, you know, to make room for us. And so I go up and I'm like, hi, sir, you are in my seat. And he's like, what? And the movie has started. And I was like, oh, you're in my seat. I paid for these seats. And his wife is like, what's going on? And I'm like, oh my God. I was like, please. And the movie has started. And I'm like, please move over one seat.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
And then the people behind them are like, why are these people standing in the middle of the movie? And I was like, this is my ticket. Move over one, and finally they did get the message and move over one. But that was a pretty harrowing experience.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
And then I have to sit next to them the whole time. No, I'm out.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
She was like, well, it's your fault. You were late to the movie. Have some respect. You know, that's true. I can't deny I was wrong for being late to the movie.
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464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
That is just so scary though. It's so, it can be so dark in there and there's like, you know, there's like dozens of people sitting quietly and you're like trying to navigate them. I mean, it's like a horror movie.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
You go. Yeah. We have a few questions here lined up. Millie, what should we start with here?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Oh! called Wanda. I can see both of those perfectly in my head. Oh my God, so much. Absolutely.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Danny DeVito, yeah. Now, what's your relationship with that movie, Georgia? Do you have a relationship?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Yeah. OK, very good. And Karen, what about A Fish Called Wanda? Do you have any relationship with that movie?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
It is funny because I feel like you mentioned that they like these are both like posing for the poster. And I feel like that's such a lost art. Everything's photoshopped now or it's like a still taken from the movie or something.
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464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
I don't know if they just can't be, you know, these stars can't don't want to get back together for a fun little shoot or something. Right.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Well, very good. I love that. Millie, you know what? I don't feel like you have answered that question. What's like the VHS cover that comes to your mind?
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464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
I have never even heard of this movie.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Oh, my God.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
There's a lot of bugs and phenomena.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Creep, aka creepers.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Fabulous. I love talking about VHS covers in the video store because I just think it's like when you sort of start learning, like... Movies become evocative to you at a very young age where you're like, what is that? I need to know what that is. And I think that's sort of.
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464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
That's really good. That's like a mature thought process going into this.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
You're seeing your pastor. You're seeing your.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
That's a great arthouse movie. I love it.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Very sexy.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Yes. I think Helen Mirren is covered in rotting meat, completely nude at some point in that film. Sexy. Yes. Yeah, excellent.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
I feel like one that I thought would, I was like, if we had Martin Scorsese on our podcast, I mean, he's like such a movie lover. That's why I feel like he would fit in well with our show. But so he would be a dream guest. Let's put those out into the universe.
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464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Yeah, and I think there's a lot of like, judgment about like what movies you like or like what movies affect you the most. Like, it's very easy to be like, oh, that's a, you know, people will throw, you know, I said this even earlier where I was like, this is a stupid movie. Like I can't hardly wait or 10 things I hate about you, but those make me feel a certain way. And that is meaningful to me.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Thank you. Oh, one thing I want to pitch is or a plug, I should say, is the softies, the band, the softies. They do the theme song to our show and they're one of my favorite bands and we're an inspiration band. To kind of the vibe of the podcast. It was like such a thrill to have them do the theme song. So if I'm plugging anything, they have a new album, The Bed I Made. You can listen to that.
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464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
I love it.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
And so I think our movie one, our, our podcast wants to kind of, you know, why hold up all the, types of films and um make them you know celebrate them equally and they they're meaningful equally it's it's more about like how these movies make us feel rather than you know the the intellectual value that something has if that makes sense yeah
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464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
And I'm Casey O'Brien, podcast producer, filmmaker, and lover of movies.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
We want to talk about all the movies we're crushing on, from hidden gems to blockbuster favorites.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Millie, you go first.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Is this the Robbie Williams movie?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Wow. I feel like the whole narrative with Robbie Williams is like, nobody knows about him in America. And then like this movie came out and it was like, this movie is bombing in America. And it's like, we don't know who he is. Why don't we go see this movie?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Casey, what did you watch recently? Okay, so I watched this movie called, and I was really weeping during this movie, Truly, Madly, Deeply. Have you ever seen this movie? Which one's that?
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464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Oh, it is? What? Yes. I had never... I had seen bits of it, but I watched it the other night, and it's so beautiful and touching. It came out in 1990. It's with Alan Rickman and... Yes, you told me about it.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Juliet Stevenson, and basically the premise is her boyfriend, Alan Rickman, dies, is dead. This is not a spoiler. This is the beginning of the movie. But... he comes back as a ghost and it's, it's so romantic and sweet and silly. And I was like, this is like one of my new favorite movies of all time. I'm not even kidding.
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464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
The end. The End
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464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Yes, she's incredible.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Yeah. I mean, I was immediately when the movie started and it's like happy tears. I feel like I felt good at the end of it. It's not like a downer. It's a happy. No, I think. OK, it's beautiful. It's really beautiful. And I really I truly, madly, deeply loved it.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Yes. It's Anthony Mengele who did The English Patient and The Talented Mr. Ripley. It was his first movie. Oh, so good. Yeah. Wow. It's his first movie. Yeah. Really good.
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464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
I do that too. I do that too. Yeah. There's no shame. That's the thing with our podcast. There's no shame. Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
We are cringe, but we're free. Exactly.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
One out of three, okay.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Millie, did any come to mind immediately?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Thank you for translating. If you didn't understand that, don't worry, everybody.
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463 - We Are Never Brief
Movies. You've seen them.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
463 - We Are Never Brief
And I'm Casey O'Brien, producer of I Saw What You Did, filmmaker, and lover of movies.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
463 - We Are Never Brief
Or like Thelma and Louise, holding hands, careening off a cliff. The point is, we want to talk about all the movies we're crushing on, from hidden gems to blockbuster favorites.
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463 - We Are Never Brief
There's going to be heated debates, flawless recommendations, and guest luminaries from every corner of the film industry.
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462 - We Own This Table
And I'm Casey O'Brien, podcast producer, filmmaker, and lover of movies.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
462 - We Own This Table
We want to talk about all the movies we're crushing on, from hidden gems to blockbuster favorites.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
462 - We Own This Table
The end. The End
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
461 - Heed This Advice
And I'm Casey O'Brien, podcast producer, filmmaker, and lover of movies.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
461 - Heed This Advice
We want to talk about all the movies we're crushing on, from hidden gems to blockbuster favorites.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
461 - Heed This Advice
The end. The End
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MFM Minisode 416
And now we're teaming up on a brand new podcast called Dear Movies, I Love You.
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Each week, Casey and I will have heated debates, give flawless recommendations, and talk about what's going on in cinema. Dear Movies, I Love You on Exactly Right is available right now. Listen every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts.
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MFM Minisode 416
And then she got diagnosed with cancer. A beloved young Christian woman fighting a battle undeserved. We thought she was God's gift, but she was a liar. Why would somebody fake cancer?
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MFM Minisode 419
And I'm Casey O'Brien, podcast producer, filmmaker, and lover of movies.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Minisode 419
We want to talk about all the movies we're crushing on, from hidden gems to blockbuster favorites.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Minisode 417
And I'm Casey O'Brien, podcast producer, filmmaker, and lover of movies.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Minisode 417
We want to talk about all the movies we're crushing on, from hidden gems to blockbuster favorites.
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MFM Minisode 412
I'm Soledad O'Brien, and on my new true crime podcast, Murder on the Towpath, I'm taking you back to 1964, to the cold case of artist Mary Pinchot Meyer.
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MFM Minisode 412
It turns out Mary was connected to a very powerful man. I pledge you that we shall neither commit nor provoke aggression. John F. Kennedy. Listen to Murder on the Towpath with Soledad O'Brien on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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I think I had just, I assumed I had followed you back. I think that's what happened. I think I had assumed, there's no way I didn't follow you back, but I fucked up. I don't know what you want me to say here.
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Now we're doing a podcast together.
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Yes.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah.
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MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
I do one or two sentences. And I like that. I prefer that as a user to read. I don't really want to read an essay on here, to be honest.
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You know, both of us were both students of film. So these aren't necessarily recommendations. Some of these might suck, frankly. A lot of them will, probably. A lot of them will, yes. You got to break a lot of eggs, kiss a lot of frogs.
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MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Yeah. Well, here's like kind of one of my favorite reviews. This is Ayo Edebiri. If you ever follow, she's a great follow on Letterboxd. This is her review of The Empire Strikes Back. This movie is great, but I was really shocked by how ugly Yoda was. Sorry if that pisses anybody off, but I had only seen baby Yoda and adult Yoda is fucking busted. I mean, that's the whole review. So...
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It's great. Yeah. Anyways, this isn't an ad for Letterboxd, but we love it and I use it all the time. And it's where I keep track of all the movies I've watched in the past.
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MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Okay.
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Interesting.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Mm-hmm.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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This is just like, inject this into my veins.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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This sounds wonderful. And I've never heard of this guy or this movie.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Oh, catfishing is thriving right now.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Oh, my God, that's so cute. That sounds so cute. And they're both cinephiles. Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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That's so interesting. You say like not knowing Japanese movies from the eighties or nineties. And I was just thinking, I was like, I don't really either, except for one of my favorite movies of all time, Tom Popo by Juzi Itami, which is also like the cutest movie in the world. And so like, it definitely feels like it's an area that I want to explore.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
And I definitely want to check out, is it Yoshimitsu Morita, his movies? Morita. Yeah. These look incredible.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Nefarious. And Millie, she's in the dark web all too often.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Sure.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Yeah, amazing. That's great.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Oh, my God. Okay, so full disclosure here. I'm in a bit of a horror movie zone right now. And so all of these are horror or horror adjacent. And these ain't elevated. I'll tell you that much. Okay. I saw this Quebecois film called Humanist Vampire Seeking Consenting Suicidal Person. What? Very cute. That's from 2023. Wow. What a title. It's very cute.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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It feels like... I'll read my Letterboxd review. It's Only Lovers Left Alive Meets Twilight. Because it's about kind of like a... It's very cutesy, but it's also very twee. Oh. I'm like over the vampires who are like, I don't want to kill people. That's like, I find that annoying now. And I, and sure. Vampires are, you know, they, they, they should murder people.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
And today we have the wonderful comedian Shalewa Sharp. She's on to talk about her area of expertise, which was important to both of us, wouldn't you say, Millie?
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MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
That's, that's what I took away from that.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I've never read any of these books, but I was in college when all of those movies came out and all of my gal pals were obsessed with it. And so, unfortunately, I have seen every single Twilight film at midnight on the day it came out. Wow. I know a lot about it. I think people like them now in retrospect. Those are bad movies.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Really?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Nine, maybe?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Well, and I saw them at the height of my like shithead stage because I was in film school. I was like, this isn't, you know, this isn't like the Verkmeister harmonies like this sucks, you know, or whatever the name of that Bellator film is. But I think I do need to revisit them because I think they would be fun to watch now. Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah, Twilight. Worth a revisit. Then I watched, okay, I saw this movie that I thought was incredible, and I feel like it should be more famous. It's called Black Rainbow. It's directed by Mike Hodges. It's starring Rosanna Arquette and Jason Robards. Have you seen this movie? It was just re-released by Aero Video on Blu-ray.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Like, Harvey Weinstein and Miramax totally fucked up the release of this movie, so it went straight to cable. So like nobody knows about it, but it's really good. It's about a traveling psychic played by Rosanna Arquette, her father, Jason Robards. And they're kind of a, you know, shysters. They like are kind of scamming people. But then she starts getting visions of people actually dying.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
And it's really good. I thought it was really interesting.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Okay, that's good. And I believe there's a movie beyond the Black Rainbow. Okay. That's a different movie. Okay. That's by Panos Cosmatos of Mandy fame. Oh. That's a different film.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Get it right. Pay the price. Did you ever watch Salute Your Shorts on Nickelodeon?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah, Ugg.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah, okay. I'm just glad, I just wanted to make sure we're on the same page when it comes to Salute Your Shorts, and now I know we are, and so we can move forward with recording the podcast. Yes. And then the last movie I watched last night, which I'd never seen before, The Crow. I loved it. I thought it was great. The OG crow? Not Bill Sarsgaard's the crow. Yeah. Brandon Lee's the crow.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I have been told I look like Bill Sarsgaard.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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By two different people.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I'm loathe to say such a thing because he's like one of the hottest men on the planet. Or I think he's very hot. Me too. I will say two people told me that. But still a thrill.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Have you been told about Casey Affleck? I get told Casey Affleck frequently. And my name is Casey.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Oh, so fabulous. Much more to come on Dear Movies, I Love You.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I feel good. It felt like writing in a real diary. I feel relieved of some emotional baggage. That's good.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Now, this is a great question. I have, but I have a huge problem with dry January. My birthday is in January.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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And that's going to be wet. I refuse to not drink on my birthday because it's in dry January. And also- My daughter's birthday is now in January. Now, maybe I shouldn't be drinking. You know, it shouldn't necessarily be a cause for drinking, but there'll be a party.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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And I would be sad if I couldn't have like a beer at my daughter's birthday party, which my daughter's birthday is the day before my birthday. Isn't that funny? Oh, but I do think it is nice. Sometimes to dry out a little bit and just, you know, reconfigure because I am a drinker, but it's good to, you know, kind of reconfigure your system. I feel like I kind of participate is my answer.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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in dry January.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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No, I mean, it feels like it's like 10 years old.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah, I think it's like people will go extra hard leading up to dry January and then go real hard after dry January. And it's kind of like, well, why? This isn't good. You know, moderation is best.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I mean, it's interesting because there aren't that many movies where it's like a celebration of drinking without it being about alcoholism.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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You know, or like the downside of imbibing. Yeah. Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Oh, absolutely. And it's one of those movies, when I saw the trailer, I was like, oh, this is going to be so bad. I just thought, I don't know, like, I was like... I was like, it's Bradley Cooper's first movie. It's obviously like this passion project. It just I feel like it had things going against it. It had kind of a goofy moment in the trailer that was like memed and is still memed.
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You know, the I just want to take a look. You know, but I love this movie and I was really blown away and it was a juggernaut. And it's the first movie in a while where it was like, oh, it's a big hit movie with stars and there's a huge song attached to it. Like that was fun.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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It kind of was a throwback to old blockbusters in a way where there's like a hit song kind of attached and embedded in the movie itself, you know?
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That's right. Those who are down bad for film, those who have a crush on film, those who are using movies as a way to fill your sexual and amorous holes in your life. I don't know if that's the right way of expressing that, but... It's for those who sincerely, sincerely love film and care about it very deeply.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Yes, it's the same feed. It's the same channel.
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That's right. I produced that. wonderful podcast. And this is sort of, you know, a phoenix rising out of the ashes of I Saw What You Did. And I'm just so thrilled and thankful that you wanted to have me be a part of this show, Millie, in this capacity.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I like a white Russian, but they're an acquired taste. I saw the movie North by Northwest with Cary Grant. And he orders a Gibson, which is a martini with pearl onions instead of olives. And that's my favorite drink. Really? Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I don't always because that is a potent punch. But it is. I like the brine of the pickled onion in my martini.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Dunk, dunk. Yeah, okay.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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So do you like a dirty martini? A dirty martini is where they actually pour olive brine into the martini. Should try it out sometime.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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You know what's funny, Millie? This is so random. You and I have only seen each other in person for once, and it was like for 30 seconds. Isn't that interesting? Was it at the Egyptian theater or down that way? It was...
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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No, I think it was pretty early on. Oh. I think it was maybe, I'd been doing it for like two months. Oh, I see. We will be reunited at some point in person, hopefully drinking martinis and eating olives.
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Funny, I don't know necessarily, but very cool. Always cool.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Sure, I guess so. First of all, I produced an excellent movie podcast before this one called I Saw What You Did, as we've already covered. I've produced several movie podcasts, but also, like you, Millie, I went to film school. Ooh, la la.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Wait, how did you guys first meet?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah, yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I remember this now. I didn't realize it was from that article, but that's... Yeah, yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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OK, Millie, why don't we transition a little bit into why we wanted to bring Shalewa on the show today?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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And so, hopefully, you know, we can, throughout the course of this podcast, we can get some of those, like, you know, film school tales, and we can bring up our time in film school, because that's sort of a funny... Time in everyone's life. So anyways, went to film school. I also would consider myself a filmmaker. I would. Because I do make short films and I'm working on a feature film right now.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I'm a little weak. And what was it when you saw it? What was your reaction to it? Was it nervous and excitement or like, were you surprised by your reaction to it? Were you comforted by the dancing? I fully enjoyed it. Millie, we saw it together.
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We need to get rid of the darkness. We need to get rid of plot. We need to get rid of all the extra stuff and really concentrate. It's a concentrated film into what is the essence of And I think Magic Mike XXL is the one that is now remembered mostly. Absolutely.
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And I really love movies. They're a big part of my life and my creative identity. I also... used to host a film podcast. That's right. Called Fart House, where we talked about artsy fartsy films. And I did that with my friend, Patrick Mallon. What's up, Patrick?
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Yeah, yeah. They remove all stakes, too. I mean, there's no stakes in the second one, really. I mean, in some ways, Magic Mike XXL feels more like an arthouse experimental film because you're like, Where are they going? Where are they going? It's not a competition. They're not going, it's like a showcase. They don't win anything. So there's no like prize money that they like need to get something.
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They're just kind of like hanging out, going place to place, you know, dropping in on all these people and thrusting on them. And it's just like, it's more of an interesting kind of experiment in what a film can be than the first one, which is more of like a traditional, like, arc, you know? Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, bringing up the characters and like how you get to know them in the second one, which is like what makes that second one so great. Then they take that away immediately in the third one. I think they're on a,
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Well, I thought that they were like setting it up. It's like, oh, don't worry. They're going to have to fix some things with the show and they're going to bring the boys back to help fix the show. And that did not happen.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Sure.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah. Well, the third one made me sad, too, because, you know, in Magic Mike XXL, it seems like he's gotten the furniture business off the ground. He's making his own money. He's doing well. The third one starts with him working some shitty catering job at Selma Hayek's house. I'm like, what happened, Mike? Yeah, what happened? I don't know. It's just sort of like... Starts off as a bummer.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I don't know. It does.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I have a pitch just based on everything you just said, Shalewa.
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son of son of magic mike okay nicholas gallant how do you say gallant okay he's channing tatum's son and he has a bad relationship with his father uh-huh okay and he goes up into his attic and he finds all the old pictures and videos of his dad stripping and then he starts stripping and then magic mike is like you don't want to go down that road like it'll ruin it'll kill you Love it.
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Let's go. In the end, the finale, Channing comes out to save his son somehow by stripping. I'm here. I'm kind of here for it. I think that would work. And the other angels, the other angels from the old crew show up. Like at the end of Star Wars, you see the ghosts of Obi-Wan and Darth Vader. Just standing there. Yes.
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Well, thank you. I appreciate that, Millie. I think that it's not unlike Worf in Star Trek. You know, he's a Klingon and a lot of people have, you know, thoughts about him as, you know, the Klingon race is very violent. But, you know, people just need to understand that Worf is a gentle soul and, you know, over time they accept him. So...
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Oh my goodness. Love Shalewa.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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That was a hard conversation to even stop talking about Magic Mike, because I feel like there was so much more in the chamber there. I mean, we could have...
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I won't bring it up again on the show. But anyways, I appreciate that. And I think, you know, more than just film brodom, you know, I think there's a kind of... there can be kind of a lot of rules in terms of, and they're all imagined, of course, but there's a lot of pressure to think about movies in a very specific way.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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It was really hard to pull back on that. I mean, we might need to do follow-up episodes, honestly.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Frankly, the format of the podcast to all of our episodes being about the Magic Mike extended universe. Um... So that was great. Oh God. Okay. Moving on. Let's get into our final segment of the show. Employee picks. This is where we do a film recommendation based on kind of what we talked about in this episode. Did I ever tell you about the chicks picks at Mr. Movies at my local video store?
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No, I love employee pics. So tell me, tell me about it. So there was like, you know, the staff pics at my local video store, Mr. Movies in Minneapolis. And it was all dudes who worked there. And they were nice men. But my mom was like bothered by this, my mother. And so she went in and she was like, you know, you don't have any women on the staff picks.
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It's like five guys recommending action movies. Love that. And the manager was like, oh, my gosh, you're right. To his credit, he was like, oh, my gosh, you're right. We need to do something about this. And my mom goes, well, I have an idea. How about we do a box and women can submit their picks to this box and you can have a chick's picks there? row. Oh my God. He's like, Oh, that's great. Yeah.
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Maybe we'll get started on that. And then my mom is like, well, I already made a box for you. So here's your box and you can put it up on the counter. So then like the next week there was a little, you know, on one of the shelves, it said chicks picks with movies recommended by women.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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She's a hero.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Oh my God. Anyways. Yeah. That's kind of my, you know, part of my film history, you know, as a child, I was probably like 12 when my mom did that.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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No, I don't think, I don't think I've had an opportunity to do something like that. Oh my God, you should just get a job where you could do it. It is so fun. So quit this podcast and do something else and have my mom co-host the podcast with you instead. Okay, got it.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Sure.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Totally. So imagine this on a shelf in a digital video store somewhere.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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A lot of that is, it tends to be from a more male point of view, and it's kind of like, these are the good movies, these are the bad movies. If you like these movies, you're cool. If you like these movies, you drool. And I think this podcast wants to kind of dash away any sort of pretension or rules about what you need to do in order to consider yourself a lover of movies.
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Fabulous. Yeah. Fabulous. I haven't seen it. I must check it out. Yeah, yeah. My recommendation, since we're talking about drinking, is a movie from 2020. It's a Danish film, so you will be reading subtitles, y'all. It's called Another Round. It's by the filmmaker Thomas Vinterberg. It stars the very hot Mads Mikkelsen. Mm-hmm.
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And it is about these four high school teachers who kind of all sort of have depressing lives. They're friends, and they read about this medical guy who says that you actually operate better if you're a tiny bit drunk. Ooh. Like your optimal pH kind of level is if you are a little bit drunk. So they decide to test this out and like are just kind of drunk all the time. And at first it's like fun.
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Yeah, they feel great all the time. And then it sort of devolves as some of these guys shouldn't be drinking all the time. Yeah. It's an interesting kind of exploration of alcohol because I think it has a more complex conversation because it's not saying like drinking is bad. It's more like drinking can be bad. If your life is bad and you are drinking a lot, that is bad.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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But alcohol in it of itself isn't bad. Yeah. But it can be. Oh, I see. And so, I don't know. It's kind of an interesting thing because I just feel like sometimes movies' exploration of drinking is so cut and dry. If you see someone drinking hard alcohol in a movie, you're like, uh-oh, something bad's going to happen. That guy's tortured, you know? Yeah.
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So I think it's a really interesting movie by a really interesting filmmaker. It won Best International Film at the Oscars. Thomas Vinterberg is a very interesting filmmaker. He comes from Denmark and he was a part of the Dogma 95 movement, which he started with another Danish filmmaker named Lars von Trier. And that was like in the 90s. And they had all these rules for making films.
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It was like had to be shot on like a video camera with no tripod, no violence. They had all these rules. They were kind of like really arthousey movies. And there are some really good ones. Like one of his films, The Celebration is really good, even if it is shot on a video camera. But he kind of was like, I don't want to do that anymore. And he stopped making movies.
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He stopped being like such a pretentious prick. But Another Round is fabulous. Leonardo DiCaprio was supposed to remake it. But I don't know if that's still happening. But... I'm checking it out. So anyways, another round. You can watch that on Prime. It's on, if you're on Prime Video, I think you can stream it on there. Peacock Canopy, which is a library app.
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You can watch movies for free on there. So it's in a lot of places, but check it out. It's a great movie. Another round from 2020. Sounds great. I love it. Millie. Oh my God. We recorded our entire first episode. No, we didn't kill each other by the end of it. No, I just fired you and hired your mother. Yeah, I was fired a few times, replaced by my mom, which was humiliating.
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But we made it to the end.
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Yeah. I mean, we have so many ideas about what we want to do for this show. This is going to be changing all the time. You know, new segments are coming in. It's going to be a very vibrant show. We're very excited about it. We have so many ideas for it. But one of the ideas I have in the future is we want to give out film advice at the end of our shows. So please write in your questions for us.
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You know, if you're in need of specific movie recommendations for specific situations, like you're on a date or something and you need a movie to watch. Or if you need help navigating a certain director's filmography, we can help. Or if you need a film gripe resolved, we're going to have film gripes. That's going to be a big part of the show moving forward. Huge part.
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Please write in at dearmovies at exactlyrightmedia.com. We want to, you know, give out advice to the people as movie experts. We want to help you. We want to help people. But, you know, you can write in or even better, you can leave us a voicemail. You can record a voicemail on your phone. Keep it under 60 seconds, please. And email that voicemail to dearmovies at exactlyrightmedia.com.
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If you sincerely love a movie, even if it's considered a bad movie by some, that should be celebrated. And that's what this podcast is about. It's about enjoying film at all levels.
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So we'd love to hear from you people. Please write in. Yeah.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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Hello, Casey O'Brien. Hi, Amelia DeCherico. How are you?
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Well, we're going to be sensitivo. I'm a very emotional person. You know, I said before that I consider myself a soft straight. I'm a softie. Yes. And I love rom-coms are like kind of my favorite genre of film. But I also, I'll throw on Salo. Wait, who's the director of Sala? Pasolini. Pasolini, which is a movie that is one of the most, I don't know, sexually violent and perverse.
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Yeah, we are doing a new podcast. You and I, both of us, making a movie podcast together. It's thrilling, it's terrifying, and it's liberating all at once.
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And there's a lot of like eating poop in it. And it's a great date night movie. Great date night movie. But it's a very extreme arthouse movie from the 70s. Is that when it's from? But anyways, you know, I can throw on that movie. As much as I can throw on, you know, Sleepless in Seattle, a movie I truly love.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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So I think this is more about the emotional connection to film rather than any sort of intellectual debate or study of film, if that all makes sense.
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We're emotional intellectuals. Exactly. That's right. I think that is what brings us together. And why we thought this show would be good is because I think we both seem so tough and hard on the outside. But on the inside, we're just we're marshmallows. You know, we're a big softies.
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We're exactly like, in so many ways, we're exactly like John.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Absolutely. Yeah. I think that way about food too. I agree. I used to work at a very fancy restaurant in LA, Jelena, and love the food there, but I'm a frequent McDonald's. I'm in there getting a McRib, you know, on the regular when it's there. Yeah. So yes, I agree. High and low. They're the same. They sit at the same table for me.
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Yeah. And all are welcome at this table. That's right. All levels of filmdom will be excited to listen to this show. We'll talk about, you know, arthouse filmmakers like Ingmar Bergman. But we'll also talk about silly movies like Adam Sandler's Who Be Halloween. I don't know. That's just an example. A movie I liked. Who?
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But anyways, that's sort of the crux of our new podcast, our new endeavor together. And we're psyched. We're psyched about it.
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Well, moving on, our first segment is called Film Diary. Millie, one way of keeping track of the movies we've watched is on a social media app that we both use. And I'd love if listeners followed us on there because the comments I'm making on these movies are hilarious. Yes. Cannot be ignored. Yeah, they can follow us on there. You like Letterboxd as an app? You use it? You're a user?
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Yeah, I can do that. This is the movies we've watched in the last week. And we're going to be discussing the movies we have most recently watched. Now, these are not necessarily recommendations. This is just like our extracurriculars. That's right. These are our studies as film enthusiasts. You know, we're trying to like mine through all of film of all of time.
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But it took you a- I'm gonna be upset that you're bringing, I'm upset that you're bringing this up.
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So Millie followed me on, and it's not exactly like You're not really friends on Letterboxd. You basically follow someone and then they can follow you back. It's not like accepting a friend request on Facebook. In your mind, it's not. It was for me. Okay, well, Millie had followed me on Letterboxd and... I went about my life after that one.
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And I don't know if I missed the notification or something, but it took me maybe a year before I followed you back. And I mentioned it kind of like, oh, Millie, isn't it funny? I just, I didn't realize you were on Letterboxd. I can't believe it took me so long to follow you back. And you were like, yeah, I noticed.