Meet our friends, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton! If you love Verdict with Ted Cruz, then The Clay and Buck Show might also be in your audio wheelhouse. Politics, news, and some pop culture thrown in too – like deep thoughts on musicals – the guys have fun while keeping up with the crazy news cycle. Today’s podcast highlights: 1. The Democrats have an identity crisis and have no obvious leadership. - Tim Walz is a middle-aged lesbian’s idea of a man. - TX Rep. Al Green is censured for performative dramatics President Trump’s address to Congress. - What is Gavin Newsom’s political future? - Clay attends his fourth-grade son's career day. - Female Democrats cringe “Choose Your Fighter” viral social media video. 2. Social Media has ruined real debate - We need a modern-day Firing Line with William F. Buckley - Short social media clips - Buck Sexton’s Bill Maher experience wasn’t a real debate because the other guests were morons and wouldn’t let him talk. - Clay’s Trump prediction: MAGA, Vice President JD Vance, Obama, Hitler, fascism, and history revisionism. 3. The Circle of Lies - Is CA Governor Gavin Newsom breaking from the Democrats on transgender issues to appeal to the right? - House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries stumbles over answer to reporter's question men in women’s sports and makes it about sexual predators. - Bill Maher points out a ten-year transgender surgery study that was withheld to a Pod Saves America bro. - The question of fairness in the transgender athletics debate. 4. Kansas Senator Roger Marshall, MD – Boys competing against girls in sports is a 90/10 issue that the fringe activist Democrats won’t let go off. - Sen. Marshall is a founding member of the DOGE Caucus and has met with Elon Musk twice in the past two weeks. - President Trump's Executive Order on dismantling the Department of Education. - What it was like being at Trump's address to Congress and all the crazy antics inside the chamber from the Democrats. - His sad Kansas City Chiefs. Make sure you never miss a second of the show by subscribing to the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show podcast wherever you get your podcasts! For the latest updates from Clay & Buck: https://www.clayandbuck.com/ Connect with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on Social Media: X - https://x.com/clayandbuck FB - https://www.facebook.com/ClayandBuck/ IG - https://www.instagram.com/clayandbuck/ YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/clayandbuck Rumble - https://rumble.com/c/ClayandBuck TikTok - @clayandbuck YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@VerdictwithTedCruzSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chapter 1: What are the current challenges facing the Democrat Party?
But, Buck, I wanted to start with... What seems like a clear identity crisis in the Democrat Party. They spent all morning fighting the censure of Al Green, a 70-some-odd-year-old man who was kicked out of the speech Tuesday night that Trump gave and has now been censured by the House.
But really, he just looked like a doddering old man kind of waving his cane randomly and haphazardly in the well of the House of Representatives. And this morning, I wake up, and as I'm getting ready to go talk to the fourth graders at my son's elementary school, I saw a video that I thought was satire, but it's actually a bunch of Democrat congresswomen, including AOC,
Pretending that they are actually boxers ready for the fight. And the amount of just cringe-worthy videos that I have seen from the Democrat Party as they attempt to connect with, I presume, young voters is the idea of what they're trying to get into. They are lost. And I thought that this was a good representation of the loss.
Tim Walls, who is, I would say, a middle-aged lesbian woman's idea of a man that will appeal to men. Is that fair, Buck? Doesn't Tim Walls look to you like a lesbian middle-aged woman would be like, this is a guy that's really going to speak to men?
Your analysis is always as astute, sir.
Tim Walls, a middle-aged lesbian's idea of a masculine man, is asked who is the leader of the Democrat Party, and this is what it sounded like on CNN. Enjoy.
Sir, who do you think the leader of the Democratic Party is right now?
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Chapter 2: Who is Tim Walz's perspective on Democrat leadership?
I think the voting public right now is what I would say. And I keep telling that we're not going to have a charismatic leader ride in here and save us from this. And I would argue that the Tea Party, as it arose out of the ACA, well, where was that charismatic leader?
It was John Boehner and Mitch McConnell and a whole bunch of angry folks at town halls that had members of Congress like myself answering questions. So when people are looking around, where's the leaders or whatever, they are going to organically step up.
Okay, Buck, the pause was telling. He eventually said, the leader is the American public because they picked their, okay. But I think the silence was telling there, Buck, because he didn't say Kamala Harris, which I think would have been an easy answer. And he could have just said, look, she was the nominee for president in 2024. She got 75 million votes.
She's the most popular Democrat politician right now. Joe Biden and Barack Obama are retired. Kamala would have been an easy answer here. It's not a crazy question to expect that you might get. What is your take on Tim Walz eventually saying, oh, the American people are the leader? And what does it say about the Democrat Party right now?
I think if you ask Tim Walz a really simple and straightforward question, you're unlikely to get a particularly intelligent answer. So to ask him something for which I think, to be fair, there really isn't a good answer right now. Yes. Puts him on the spot. To me, it's more about the obvious state of the Democrat Party than it is how Walz answered the question one way or the other.
Because to say Kamala would be to steer right into more more of the defeat that they've already been suffering the aftermath of. So I think that's not where they would want to go. And they're the real answer. I mean, the smart answer would be to say, oh, we have. And this is the Democrat Party until a minute ago would have answered it this way.
Oh, we have a deep bench or they still love to say that we have a deep. bench and they would rattle off a bunch of names like Gavin Newsom and Gretchen Whitmer and Kamala Harris. And I can't even. And it's up to the Democrat voter who's going to lead in the next election. But we have so many. Instead, he looks completely flabbergasted.
And I think that a big part of that is any of the people that would come to mind as the names for the Democrat leadership right now, even among Democrats. could be a liability in just a few months.
It could become very clear that this isn't, or you don't know when it will become clear, that this is not a person that you actually think the Democrats can rally behind and can do anything meaningful to bring their party out of the nosedive that it is still going through.
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Chapter 3: Is Gavin Newsom positioning himself for a national role?
I haven't been invited, but I would. I mean, I'll go and talk to anybody as long as it's not edited. Like, I don't want to talk to somebody for an hour and have them clip six minutes randomly of it. As long as it's the full conversation, I'll go on anyone that has a substantial, by the way, substantial audience. I don't want to go on you and your brother's podcast that you just started.
But yes, I'm busy. Yes, I would do it. Would you?
I would go on you and your brother's podcast. I think Clay is being very mean.
I don't have time to go on you and your brother's podcast, unless it was the Kelsey brothers, maybe. They have a big podcast.
Apparently they have a huge following, which is amazing to me.
I don't understand that at all, because I don't think they have anything interesting to say at all, but evidently it works. Would you do Gavin Newsom's podcast?
Oh, absolutely. I think, look, it's funny because they asked if I would go on Fox this afternoon, Clay, and they have a former Obama guy who we're going to have some debate or something. I mean, it'll be three minutes long. We'll both get to talk one and a half times probably, but I'll make my points. I'll make his points.
It's interesting, though, because Fox News for a while was, as you know, frozen out by Democrats. They refused to go on. Really, generally, the only Democrats who would go on were clay pigeons. They were there to get blown to smithereens on air and, you know, for the amusement of the audience. And I think that that's changing now because they have to they have to just switch things up.
They can't continue on with the current trajectory because it's not only that their party lost. It's that they don't have the same control of the information ecosystem that they used to. So they can't just rely on the New York Times, CNN axis of evil to propagate all kinds of nonsense all over the country because people aren't watching and people don't care.
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Chapter 4: Can Republicans gain a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate?
60 Senate seats would truly allow transformative... outcomes in the united states as we talk to senator thune the majority leader that's the number you have to get to to really be able to get things moving in a rapid fashion in the senate because otherwise they'll hold it up now republicans have never had 60 seats in the senate have they
I don't know historically if the Republicans, it's a good question for our team to look up. I don't know if historically Republicans have ever had 60 Senate seats. I don't think it's ever happened in anybody listening's recent, like in the last 40 or 50 years, it certainly hasn't ever happened. That's a good question. That's why it would be so transformative.
Again, we're not talking about simple majority. We're talking about a basically filibuster proof majority, which would be extraordinary.
Yeah, I think the last time, the GOP had 56 seats back in 1929. So that's the high watermark 100 years ago?
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Chapter 5: Is there a market for real debate in today's media landscape?
that the contents could be whatever they wanted to be and there wasn't really much in the way of an infrastructure on the other side for competition exceptions being of course rush talk radio fox news but those were relatively recent when you start to compare this to the new york times and we when you compare this to some of the outlets uh... that the democrats have been able to rely on they they've been running this game for a long time you go all the way back to uh...
What's his name? Cronkite. And you go back to the days when there were only a handful of TV news anchors that had tremendous sway over over public opinion. They were libs, by the way, but not libs in the current context, libs back then. And I would just say what's happened, Clay, is that the social media gave them a big jolt of control all over again.
And then they became these echo chambers of insanity. Where you could just start promoting the craziest ideas from college campuses in the I don't know, I want to say maybe in the early 2000s, you start to see this maybe toward the end or middle to end of the Bush administration bubbling up more and more.
Obama administration comes along and all of a sudden you have the mainstreaming of socialism, left wing radical ideas, extremely poisonous DEI and race politics. And all of this, you know, gets gets completely injected into the American body politic for eight years of Obama. But then things just got crazier and crazier. And under Biden, well, under covid really.
And then, you know, for Biden's term, I think they just reached. I don't know if you know, there's like terminal velocity. Isn't that when you're you jump out of a plane and you go to the absolute fastest speed that your mask can travel? I think that's terminal velocity. There was a bad movie in the 90s based on that.
That's what immediately comes to mind is the movie.
But I think that's terminal velocity. I think Democrats under Biden politically have reached terminal insanity. They got about as crazy as they could be, and now they're dealing with the backlash from a majority of the American people of, you guys can't just be totally insane.
You can't have a dementia puppet as the president, and we all then see it, and we all know it, and you don't suffer political consequences. The Democrats... deeply deserve the pathetic and ignominious post-election party that they are mired in right now. It is exactly what they should have. They earned this. They own this. So let them wallow a bit. Let them be sad.
They don't make good arguments. And to a large extent, they don't make good arguments because they don't have to grapple with the other side's argument. Because when you have convinced yourself that your opponent is Adolf Hitler, your argument doesn't have to be that good. Right. I mean, I think that's in their mind what we saw. Even Gavin Newsom, who I think is a relatively intelligent Democrat.
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Chapter 6: How has social media changed political discourse?
Clay, there's really nothing for them to point to right now that I think is positive for their party in a broad sense of trying to go into the midterms and the inevitable presidential campaign. I think, if anything, they may put themselves in a position where they're preparing to fight the last political war because all they've done now for 10 years is run against Trump.
Unsuccessfully, in the end, I might add, right? When push came to shove, Trump beat them. and their whole party turned into this anti-Trump, they have to go through a metamorphosis.
There is a transformation that I think Democrats will have to... Now, it's not going to be on every... I'm not saying they're going to become a pro-life party, or they're not going to change that kind of stuff, but in the way they present, and in the way they focus on issues and fight the media war to try to sway that middle 3% to 5% of voters... You know, which doesn't, it's funny, isn't it?
That's all we're really talking about, but they're going to have to change the way that they're presented because there are a lot of people that will vote Democrat no matter what. We know that. They just, 75 million of them voted for Kamala.
A quarter of a million people voting for Democrats over Republicans in a handful of, well, in half a dozen states would have changed the election toward the Democrats. So it's not like we're sitting here saying the Democrats don't have a massive infrastructure and millions and millions of people who are voting for any Democratic candidate they put up.
But how will they not have the same result going forward? And also, how will they avoid the public repudiation that comes every time they try to present their arguments now? I mean, the stuff they're saying is silly. They look silly.
I think there are two things that build out of that. One, they have not reached the look in the mirror and acknowledged that you have a bad message, and that's why people didn't vote for you, not because your message wasn't heard well enough. That's the debate that they're currently having. Second part of this, Buck, and this is where I think they're going to end up,
I think they will move from Trump is Hitler, watch how fast this happens, and clip this, save it for a couple of years in the future. As we get ready for 28, this pivot's going to happen. They're going to move from Trump is Hitler to Trump is a uniquely talented politician that Republicans cannot replicate, and that's why he won in 2016 and 2024. Initially, it was Russia. Then it's he's Hitler.
All of his supporters are racist. Buck, get ready for this. Once he's out of the picture, they're going to start arguing how talented he actually was, and they're going to argue that Trumpism, the MAGA universe, does not translate to J.D. Vance or whomever is seen as the successor, and they are going to struggle to produce the support that
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Chapter 7: What does the future hold for Trump and his political influence?
Like, is he just not aware? Is he a total moron? That's Akeem Jeffries. That's the House Minority Leader. Let me say this, Buck. The question was actually wrong. The reporter... said that Gavin Newsom said something he did not, right? We just heard the clips. He didn't say.
But that still doesn't explain the answer from Hakeem. What is he talking about? I have no idea.
I have no idea what he's even trying to say.
Who's talking about sexual predators with the high school sports thing?
I have no idea what he is even potentially trying to say in that answer. But this is how cooked, Buck, they are on this issue that they can't even respond. And by the way, let me say this. Hakeem Jeffries, I'm not sure what his athletic background is. Gavin Newsom was a college pitcher. He played college sports. Every single man in America...
that played high school or college sports, if you played sports after puberty in high school or college, you know what BS a grown-ass man deciding to identify as a woman is. Every single one of them. Hakeem Jeffries knows this.
Every black dude in America, every white dude in America, every Hispanic dude in America, every Asian dude in America, every single person who played high school or college sports knows this is complete BS. But woke mind virus buck is so powerful for them that they have to stand up there and lie and sound as crazy as Akeem Jeffries did in order so far to remain in good standing.
I'll give you another example of this.
We had mentioned Bill Maher before, who I think is also more making tactical retreats than ideological conversions on issues, but he is willing to say, and has been before even this election, that some of the stuff that his side is doing is just nuts and self-defeating. He doesn't like the school marm, you're not allowed to say this, you're not allowed to say that stuff. He's never liked that.
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