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US Senator Visits Abrego Garcia, Florida State University Shooting, Fed Independence
Fri, 18 Apr 2025
A US Senator from Maryland met with Kilmar Abrego Garcia — the man illegally deported by the Trump administration — in El Salvador. Two people were killed and six wounded in a shooting on the campus of Florida State University, and economists say it could backfire if President Trump pressures the Federal Reserve to lower interest rates. Want more comprehensive analysis of the most important news of the day, plus a little fun? Subscribe to the Up First newsletter.Today's episode of Up First was edited by Willem Marx, Susanna Capelouto, Rafael Nam, Janaya Williams and Mohamad ElBardicy. It was produced by Ziad Buchh, Nia Dumas and Christopher Thomas. We get engineering support from Damian Herring. Our technical director is Zac Coleman. And our Executive Producer is Jay Shaylor.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
Chapter 1: What happened during the US Senator's visit to Kilmar Abrego Garcia in El Salvador?
A U.S. senator traveled to El Salvador to visit the man illegally deported there by the Trump administration.
My mission today was simply to see how his health is, what his condition is.
Is he any closer to returning to the U.S.?
I'm Amy Martinez with Leila Fadl, and this is Up First from NPR News. Students at Florida State University locked themselves in basements and bathrooms to escape an active shooter on campus. We have no idea what's going on, and they said we can go back, but, like, how do I know that campus is safe? The alleged gunman is the son of a local sheriff's deputy.
And President Trump is pressuring the Fed to cut interest rates, and it's got economists worried.
Just look around the world at places where there isn't independence. The inflation rate is higher, the unemployment and the job market are worse.
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Chapter 2: What are the legal challenges surrounding Kilmar Abrego Garcia's deportation?
I was stopped by soldiers about three kilometers out who said they'd been ordered not to allow me to go see him. My mission today was simply to see how his health is, what his condition is.
So later in the day, the president of El Salvador, Nayib Bukele, tweeted that Van Hollen had met with Abrego Garcia and said that since Abrego Garcia had been confirmed healthy, he gets the honor of staying in El Salvador's custody. The senator then tweeted out a picture of the two of them sitting at a table and said he had called Abrego Garcia's wife to pass along a message of love.
In a statement, White House spokesman Kush Desai said the meeting showed Democrats were prioritizing the welfare of what he called an illegal alien MS-13 terrorist. The Trump administration has repeatedly said Abrego Garcia is a member of MS-13, which is a transnational gang. But Abrego Garcia's lawyers dispute that, pointing to the fact that he doesn't even have a criminal record in the U.S.,
Now, there was yet another court ruling against the Trump administration's handling of Abrego Garcia yesterday. What did it say?
Yeah, so the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals tore into the administration, saying they are, quote, "...asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process." Judge J. Harvey Wilkinson, who was appointed by President Reagan, headed up that three-judge panel.
He noted that the Justice Department had already admitted it deported Debrego Garcia mistakenly and asked, quote, "...why then should it not make what was wrong right?" Earlier this week, a judge had ruled Abrego Garcia's lawyers should be able to question administration officials.
But the Department of Justice argues that that was untenable and said the government had no powers to return Abrego Garcia. But with this latest ruling, they have lost that argument. So now officials must explain what they're doing, if anything, to bring him back. Or they could appeal again, this time to the Supreme Court.
And what did the court say about the administration's refusal to comply with these orders?
Yeah, so Judge Wilkinson said this is a slippery slope. In his order, he imagined a future in which there would be no assurances that the executive branch would not deport American citizens or train its powers on political enemies. He said we're in a moment where the executive and judicial branches are close to grinding irrevocably against one another in a conflict that promises to diminish both.
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Chapter 3: What occurred during the Florida State University shooting incident?
And the man arrested is the son of the sheriff's deputy?
Yeah, that's right. Police identified him as 20-year-old Phoenix Eichner. His mother is an 18-year veteran of the Leon County Sheriff's Department. Leon County Sheriff Walter McNeil spoke at a news conference yesterday.
Unfortunately, her son had access to one of her weapons, and that was one of the weapons that was found at the scene. And we will continue that investigation into how that weapon was used and what other weapons perhaps he may have had access to.
Police also recovered a shotgun at the scene, but they don't believe it was used in the shooting. McNeil said Phoenix Eichner was a member of the Sheriff's Department Youth Advisory Board, and he'd gone through extensive training with the Sheriff's Department.
This event is tragic in more ways than you people in the audience could ever fathom from a law enforcement perspective. But I will tell you this. We will make sure that we do everything we can to prosecute.
We don't have a motive at this point. Police say that he wouldn't talk to them after his arrest.
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Chapter 4: Who is the suspect involved in the FSU shooting and what is known about him?
Now, this campus is very close to Florida's state capitol. What's the reaction been?
In Washington, President Trump said he was briefed on the shootings and called them horrible. When asked about stricter gun laws, he said he would always protect the Second Amendment. Florida's Governor Ron DeSantis said, we are all Seminoles today, which is, of course, the school mascot.
Florida State University President Richard McCullough visited some of the shooting victims at the hospital and said counseling was available for students and faculty.
We're a strong and united community. We're family. And so we'll take care of all of you and we'll get through this together.
Now, this isn't the first shooting on the FSU campus, of course. In 2014, a gunman fired into a crowded library there, wounding three people before he was killed by police. And following that shooting, in just about every year since, Republican lawmakers have filed bills to allow concealed weapons on campuses in Florida. This shooting will probably revive that debate.
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Chapter 5: How did Florida State University students experience the shooting lockdown?
Chapter 6: What are the economic concerns about President Trump's pressure on the Federal Reserve?
Just look around the world at places where there isn't independence. The inflation rate is higher, the unemployment and the job market are worse.
Chapter 7: Why is Federal Reserve independence important according to economists?
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Democratic Senator Chris Van Hollen held a face-to-face meeting with Kilmer Abrego Garcia yesterday.
He's the Salvadoran citizen who lived in Maryland for about 15 years before the administration illegally deported him last month. Now he's being held in a notorious mega prison in El Salvador where the administration is sending people deported from the U.S. Now the White House insists he will not be returning to the U.S. despite a federal judge's order to facilitate his return.
Joining us with the latest is NPR's Ryland Barton. Good morning, Ryland.
Hi, Leila.
Okay, so Senator Van Hollen says Salvadoran officials initially refused to let him meet with Ebreko Garcia, and then we see a meeting happened. What changed?
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