Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1034 | An Update on Phil’s Health, Upcoming Surgeries & Jase Channels His Inner ‘Exorcist’
Mon, 03 Feb 2025
Jase doesn’t pull any punches when describing his recent illness, which left him almost certain he was dying. His brush with illness leads to an update on Phil’s health, spirits, and upcoming procedures. The guys cover the supernatural circumstances of John the Baptist’s birth, as well as the mystery concerning the Holy Spirit’s appearances in the Old Testament, New Testament, and today. Plus, why did Jesus have to go back to Heaven instead of staying on earth? In this episode: John 1, verse 19; John 1, verse 51; Luke 1; John 14, verses 16-26; John 15, verse 26; John 16, verse 7; 1 John 2, verse 1 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What happened to Jase's health?
Let me interject, Chase, because I felt like that was two of the best podcasts we've ever done.
Well, I will take zero credit for any contribution I made, because that was surely the Holy Spirit of God. Because as soon as I walked out of this room, I started feeling a little discomfort. And I went to the bathroom, and I thought, whoa, that was... That was messy. Then somebody wanted to talk about something. I don't even remember the conversation. But I just had to end it.
I thought, I got to go. I'm not feeling real well. So when I got home, it got worse. Because then I could tell I had fever. It got more messy is what you're telling me. Well. You know, it's been a long time since I have thrown up with force uncontrollably. And so I got into one of those deals where it's kind of like a stock picker trying to figure out where the next vibe is coming from.
But in this case, I only had two choices. But it did occur to me, you know what I think we need? I think in our toilet industry, I think you need to buy a toilet when it may happen only once every 10 years because you get into a situation where you have two places where things are coming out, but you're only in one hole. And I literally was doing some kind of weird dance. I would sit down.
I would get up. I'd turn my head over. I'd sit back down. I was looking at that wall thinking, you don't realize how dangerous.
There's an acronym called TMI, Jase.
No, I'm just saying this is what real people go through. I saw a quote somewhere. When you go through hell on earth, That's when you realize you need the presence of God in your life. There's 150 Psalms out there that describe that. And I really think, you know, we're reading Romans 8. I was thinking Romans 8.
All these scriptures were popping in my head in between whatever that was that seemed to go on for hours. Because you do a lot of praying in that moment because you really think in the short term, you're dying. Yeah. I mean, this is, what was the movie that, you know, they got into the demonic, you know, they always do the demonic things and you start throwing up. So I don't know.
Maybe that was the connection. Yeah. The Exorcist. So I actually think I've lost weight because since that 24-hour period, I haven't felt real good. I've had a few fever bouts. But, you know, everything I do is I take some water and I just, sip it, and then you say, okay, I think we're good.
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Chapter 2: What is the latest update on Phil's health?
And we've had a lot of new ideas. We actually had a meeting last night. I was just on the phone because obviously I didn't. Cause no one wants to be around you. This was contagious, which my wife had either. She has supernatural forces. Uh, she just doesn't get sick very often. And, uh, I thought, babe, you're getting this. I mean, because she was just been in close proximity, but she hasn't.
So evidently it's either not contagious or my wife just, she just doesn't get sick. Or she hadn't got it yet. Yeah, but I'm going to tell you, she gets sick about once a decade. So now when she does, she goes down. So anyway, she's been real nice. But I have my computer today because I haven't been able to prepare.
I literally was so just, you know, when you have fever for a long period of time, it just, you can't, I couldn't write, I couldn't see straight. And so I'm going to do this Bible study today on the cuff.
So we'll see how that goes. Well, I mean, we're talking about John the Baptist. I mean, we are. Yeah, we're kind of in our wheelhouse here. And we did have a preliminary. Al, Jason and I had a preliminary discussion before the podcast. I did call him this morning.
So y'all are having podcasts before the podcast.
We did, and I said, I've been thinking about this. I've been unable to write anything down, but I kind of ran it by Zach, and he thought it was an interesting discussion. So there's your cliffhanger. I like it. Yeah, so I don't know.
Myself and the audience are awaiting this epiphany.
So yesterday I go to the store in my pajamas. I come home and Missy's like, why would you go to the store in your pajamas? And I said, I wanted to be comfortable. I was wearing Cozy Earth, which you gave me for Christmas. That's right.
Don't give a gift and start crying about it. I'm almost tempted to put up a picture of me and Al in our pajamas when we both walked in the same room with the same exact cozy earth pajama set on. Because I want to put the caption, who wore it better? Al, who would you say wore it better?
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Chapter 3: How does the Holy Spirit appear in the Bible?
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Well, do you want to just, do you want to go ahead and dive into this? Why don't you do what you were going to do with the book of John, and then I'll figure out how to go down this road.
All right. I'll catch this up because we've been for a minute or two in John 1, 1 through 18. And just because, as we've described this, it's the prologue to the book of John. But, you know, everybody's trying to describe it. It's like you take everything about Jesus and just condense it down into this one package that's so powerful.
Every time you begin to unwrap it, you just run into this whole new line of thinking. And that's kind of what we've been doing for the last few podcasts. And then in the middle of this, he gets to this concept of John the Baptist, who is like this witness figure. to the light and to the life. And so last time we were on the podcast, we got into that more specifically in the verses.
And of course, it takes you back to the Old Testament. We talked a lot about Isaiah 40, Malachi 3 and 4, because John the Baptist had been predicted as Jesus had been predicted throughout all the Old Testament. So it's kind of taken us back to that concept of, That all of the Jewish history has now come together in this moment with this forerunner coming on the scene.
And everything he's doing is like prepping the people for what's going to happen. The interesting thing is you're not prepping it for way in the future. He was prepping it for literally in his lifetime.
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Chapter 4: What are the supernatural elements in John the Baptist's birth?
Or with all these conversations and signs, you know, some people break it down to like the first 12 chapters are these signs. And then 13 through the end is the glory revealed in what Jesus does and who he is. And so to all these things in John one, I mean, he starts from the beginning and which is.
Interesting, because if you look at the other three gospels, what they call the synoptic gospels, they all have interesting starting places. And you can go look them up and see. But John, he's like, let's just go back to the beginning, which I think is interesting. And so it kind of he's tying up. Basically, creation with this new creation that Jesus is going to introduce.
Would you agree with that? Yeah, for sure. Well, when you get to what we're going to get to in the end of John 1, he goes back to this story with Jacob's ladder. And you see this quote from, I believe it's Genesis 28, when he said in 31, I tell you the truth. This is John 1, 51. You shall see heaven open and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man.
And he kind of introduces this, what we would call temple language, which in their mind, the temple was where heaven and earth intersected. It's where God and man met.
met and so everything their world was from a jewish standpoint was about this temple and uh so then even in john 2 you know his first sign is this at a wedding banquet you know which leads to him clearing the temple remember and then the argument that came out of this and jesus says you destroy this temple this is 219 and i'll raise it again in three days
And the Jews replied, it has taken 46 years to build this temple, and you're going to raise it in three days? But the temple he had spoken of was his body. And so if you tie all that together, this ladder where Jesus is bringing heaven to earth together, think about Ephesians 1, 10, then you say, what's the significance of John the Baptist? Well, when I read Luke 1, I was shocked.
Even though I've read this many times, we actually did Luke in a podcast. Did we not?
Yeah, we did.
The whole book. But I don't think we made note of this. And I just kind of wanted to read where the details about John the Baptist's arrival. You mentioned it.
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Chapter 5: Why did Jesus return to Heaven instead of staying on Earth?
The idea of artificial intelligence is an oxymoron. It's barring from intelligence that we have already inputted into something.
Thank you. That's what I thought. Me and my wife talked about that. But I was just thinking artificial intelligence. Because when I read this definition, I think they got it right. But they just went in there and figured it out. But it says in the Bible, priests and Levites were both classes of people who served in the temple in Jerusalem. Oh, wow. I think that's significant.
And some people who listen to our podcast might not have known that, but I just thought, well, isn't that interesting that the first definition that comes out has to do something with that temple. And the next chapter, at the end of the first chapter of John, in chapter two, we're going to get into a lot of temple talk. And so it made me go over and read Luke 1.
And what's funny is I have a NIV version, which I do not go out on the streets and say, oh, I love this version of the Bible. Sorry for those who have come up with that version. But I've read the same Bible so long, I can't function without it. I'm back in 1984. But what I noticed is when you read online, which is why I brought my computer,
Well, the NIV, they've changed a lot of their translations since 1984.
Yeah, they upgraded in 2011, I think.
Yeah, and that's going to be significant because of what I'm going to get to. But I just wanted to read this on the birth of John the Baptist foretold. I mean, this is such a crazy story. And even in Luke's beginning, he says, because I see the word come up, when he says in Luke In verse, well, just let me read the first two verses.
Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. Interesting take because John, you know, in the beginning was the word. You know, his is capitalized.
But it's this same idea about when God makes a promise and think of Hebrews 6, it's impossible for God to lie. Or when God says something, it happens. That you can trust it. His word, and think of the Isaiah 40 that we read. Remember it said, His word endures forever. And that was the same quote that John used in the John the Baptist coming.
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Chapter 6: What can we learn from the story of John the Baptist?
By this, he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time, the Spirit had not been given since Jesus had not yet been glorified. So I bring this up because, well, I thought Jesus, I mean, I thought John the Baptist was filled with the Holy Spirit at birth. And then here it says the Holy Spirit hadn't been given yet. What does that mean?
Do you see what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So if someone who was not familiar with this, how would you explain that is where I'm getting at, which is why I've always, when people ask me about Luke 1, well, how did John the Baptist, how was he filled with the Holy Spirit? if John said in John 7 the Holy Spirit hadn't been given.
Well, and my answer would be, I can go back in the Old Testament and give you probably four examples where men of God throughout Old Testament history, before Jesus even, the Messiah even came, had the Holy Spirit given to them for specific purposes. So it's not like this.
We even had a talking donkey. Exactly. There's a big difference. And I had this exact same conversation yesterday.
on the Not Yet Now podcast, because I was talking about this baptism of the Spirit, and then someone had made it in the comments section on the YouTube channel that having the Holy Spirit is clearly separate from salvation, and they had mentioned a couple instances in the book of Acts, but I made the point there's a difference between a gift of the Holy Spirit and the gift of the Holy Spirit.
So when The Holy Spirit could be in someone like John and working through in the Old Testament because the Holy Spirit was, I mean, the Holy Spirit is the third member of the Trinity. It's not like he just sat out until Pentecost. Yeah, he was actually hovering over the waters. He was present the entire time.
The big difference of what happens at Pentecost and really what Jesus is inaugurating here through his baptism is, the baptism of the Spirit, is the one that he talks about in Acts 2, that if you repent and be baptized, you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. That's a different thing.
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