Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1031 | Jase's Unexpected Intervention w/ Dr. John Delony & The Loneliest Generation in Human History
Wed, 29 Jan 2025
Jase is getting intervention vibes over the amount of mental health professionals he’s been hosting lately, including Dr. John Delony, a national bestselling author, host of “The Dr. John Delony Show,” and co-host of “The Ramsey Show” with Dave Ramsey. John lays out compelling evidence about the current mental spiral of today’s society, but he and Jase have come up with proven ways to combat the tech-dependency of young people. Zach and John discuss the need to be “right” in relationships versus the need to love well. — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What unexpected event did Jase experience in the woods?
I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. Jase, the last time we saw you, you were off to the woods. I'm curious as to what happened.
Well... Because we had some guests, too, that were... Yeah, are you going to tell the whole story on that? It's like your best idea... Now, I get it. This was a tough situation. My dad... Don't put it on me, because we were all just adapting. Well, my dad gives away a hunt, according to this story. Yep. Because he released a new book. He did it, much to my shock, because he doesn't do that.
Well, my dad, although doing... Improving, I think we can all agree that his quality of life is improving, except he still has the big overall problems that's caused him some problems. But I do think the prayers from everyone, and he's improving. Yeah. But he's unable to hunt. Yeah. And so Al's like, well, we got this hunt. We're committed. What are we going to do? I was like, well, it's cold.
It's really cold here. And it still is. And so I was like, well, we'll do an afternoon hunt. Yeah. But we had other people coming. So our sister wanted to come. Her first hunt of the year. Yeah.
And we're still training her.
She's in training. Is she a duck girl? No. Yeah, she would be a duck girl. We had the two guests. Husband and wife.
Well, I didn't know she was coming. I didn't know she wanted to go until we got out there, so that was kind of a last minute.
So nobody ever told me that. So when we all, I looked up, and here's the crowd, and I thought, well, is she just going to hang out at the lair in this muddy place? So it got kind of weird. So I was like, oh, do you want to come? Because she didn't look like she was dressed for it. She had blue jeans on and a little jacket.
But, you know, they're from Montana and Colorado, so they were like, yeah.
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Chapter 2: How did the hunting trip with guests go?
One time. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Two fell. Well, I went, boom, boom. I just thought, okay, they're just not a very good shot. Well, then all of a sudden... About 10 minutes, 15 minutes before sunset, which is as long as you can hunt legally, it got cloudy. It covered up the sun and the wind started blowing, I'm going to say 25 miles an hour. And that moisture got in the air.
And look, the whole dynamic changed. Because I look back at the people from Colorado first and look, they were literally doing this. The woman's face was so red. I was like, are you okay? And then Austin, one of the young duck boys, he said, I didn't want to say this, but my waders leaked. And so when he was helping putting out the decoys, he was trying to just be a man about it.
And he started shivering so bad that I thought he was experiencing hypothermia.
Which, by the way, I saw Jeff, and he told me when Austin came in from that hunt, they went by their house first. And he didn't even speak to Jeff as he was running past him. He said, I got to get in the shower. I got to get in the shower.
And so he just like ran past him. So I want to say this, that the next 30 to 40 minutes, picking up those decoys and that wind, how cold it was. And us, when we got back in the boat, because look, Burley then couldn't find where he parked the boat. So that extended it another 30 minutes.
Fast forward this to when I'm now taking this couple to the hotel aisle, which nobody told me I was giving them a ride. I actually had left, and I had forgotten my batteries to charge. And they just got left there? Yeah, they just got left there. They were fixing to hang out. I came back, and they were like, I said, what are y'all still doing there? And they're like, we need a ride.
I'm glad I came back. Steven and Vanessa, if you're listening, I'm so sorry. It was the worst trip you could have ever had.
I want to say this. I've done the studies on this, and I don't know how it correlates to Colorado, but 20 degrees in North Carolina, in the mountains. It's 42 degrees in the bayou of Louisiana. I don't know how it does it, but I'm telling you.
On the way back, everybody's personal space was no longer an issue. It was a huddle of shivering people. Because once I got my jacket on, I was fine. That thing's rated for whatever. And I was like, this is what happens. Be careful what you wish for when you say, oh, let me have my hunt.
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Chapter 3: What lessons were learned about relationships and being right?
Oh, there's a class down the hall for the divorces and for the singles. And like, y'all go over there. They'll handle you. And so it's just become a place of I don't care what's going on in your life. I don't care bananas thing you've done or has been done to you. Pull up a seat and we'll get some nachos and we'll figure this thing out.
And I think presence is largely more important than any answer I'm going to give somebody.
That right there is the thrust of everything we're doing on this podcast. And we're going through the Bible and really our method of interpretation of the scriptures. It is storytelling. We tell a lot of crazy stories where it's almost like a Seinfeld, a show about nothing with the Bible study. But the way we're interpreting the scripture is through that lens of God's presence.
First, he's present with us and then allows us to be present with one another. I recently heard, I don't know where you were speaking at, but I saw it on Instagram and I I love your stuff, by the way, because it's always like super practical and it hits people right where they're at. And I'm like and I agree with almost everything you say. And I'm like, man, I need to send this to somebody.
But you were talking about this idea of presence. I think the word you might have used was connection, being connected. And you said something that's very simple, but very profound. Um, and it should be obvious, but it's not in our culture. You said to be, to, to, to be connected, you gotta, you gotta be face to face with somebody. You gotta, you gotta look at them.
Um, how, how do you see like technology, Instagram phones, all that as a, as a disruptive and, uh, uh, at least with our ability to be present, how, what would be your advice to someone who's got teenage kids like yourself?
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Chapter 4: How does technology affect mental health in today's youth?
That's a, that's a, that's a big one, man. Um, Just to put it bluntly, I think it is the same, we're going through the same exact thing with our minds and our spirits and our relationships that our parents went through in 1971 when this awesome thing came out called the TV dinner.
And they're like, man, you can just take this box and put it in a microwave and you don't have to go shoot anything and skin anything and smoke anything. You can have it in five minutes. And everybody got real excited. And then we've had a generation of people dropping dead from heart attacks and cancers and all sorts of degenerative diseases. And, but we called that stuff food.
And I think very similarly for thousands and thousands of years, we have, I was thinking this the other day to listen to this conversation for all of human history, you had to be in that room y'all are in. Yeah. Right. And so it's some way our body hears these voices talk and they hear the stories and it's connecting as though we're friends.
Y'all meet people when y'all go travel and they come up and ask you questions. And if you're like me, my body's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. You don't, don't ask me about my daughter. I don't know you. You mean that's like, you know what I mean? You know stuff about my life. And so it's this, it's this,
through a glass darkly it's we think we're connected and our bodies are screaming at us that we're lonely and so I think at the end of the day we'll have a same as we're having with the food issue we'll have a gnarly reckoning with just our basic physiology that our bodies let me put it this way if your body recognizes that you've lost your tribe it would be failing you if it let you sleep at night because it knows you are all you've got
And we can have these long text threads full of emojis and funny jokes, and that's fine, but that's just a Twinkie. That's just a bag of popcorn. That is not a meal. And so your body has to have real people that it knows it can lean on and see and experience your breath and your eye crinkles and your jokes and just your glances. That is the stuff that keeps our brain functioning well.
So these phones at the end of the day, man, they're protein bars when you're out hunting, but man, that can't sustain you for very long.
I had never thought about connecting back to 50 years ago and sort of the dawn of the television age with that and how much you're right and how much that has just set the stage for where we are today. It's been a natural advancement because you said it, it's TV dinners. So it's not just we lost that supper time, we lost that meal experience, we lost that idea of connection to
what gives us that nutrition for both our bodies as well as our psyche and our soul. Right. But also it was tied to a device. It was tied to the television. And so, you know, back in that day, because I remember being a little kid, it was three channels and, you know, it was colored bars at 10 o'clock at night. At least there was a stop to it.
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Chapter 5: What is the significance of grace in interactions?
Chapter 6: What is the role of listening in personal growth?
And I'm saying I'm willing to bet that the ones that, stayed on as friends of your kids are probably still friends to this day.
They're friends with me.
That's what I'm saying. When you see them, you've got a relationship. So that brings me to something, John, because you talk a lot. I saw some of your shows where you talk about getting weird. if you have to, because you're in protective mode. And, Jace, what Jace just described is weird, but only because it's just different. It's right.
Most of us can agree, but most people don't have the courage to do something like that.
Yeah. Jace, I mean, you were ahead of your time on that one. Yeah. It breaks my heart my 14-year-old doesn't – He doesn't have a camera on his phone. Why? Because I was 14 years old. I would be wholly unemployable if I'd had a camera on my phone when I was 14. Because stuff is funny when you're 14. Listen, the stuff my son laughs at, I'm in my late 40s.
It's still hilarious, but I don't want to explain it to my grandmother. It doesn't need to be recorded somewhere. And so like, yeah, like he was the only kid in his class in fifth grade without a phone. He's the only kid in middle school that did not have a phone. And he's a freshman in high school now. So we've got some contracts, but he didn't have Google. And I think it's madness.
And I say this boldly, it's insanity. To give a child access to the World Wide Web 24-7, 365 in their pocket. And worse, to give the World Wide Web access to your child. Wow. 24-7, 365. It's madness. And, Jace, we have a little bit of land out here outside of Nashville. And so we experienced the same thing. My wife had a basket.
Everybody who came over, I wanted my place to be the place where all the kids came. And I tell you what, man. It started kind of weird. My wife had to text all the moms. We're watching them. They're fine. And we found out it's usually the parents that wanted it. They are the ones who are anxious all the time about where's my precious little baby.
And so they were the ones that needed to be coached. Hey, we're good parents. We got it. And those kids would come drop their phones in the basket. And then I think their nervous systems regulated. And for a kid, it just felt good. Because then they now they come over, man. They drop those phones so fast and they are off into the woods and their bodies are just exhaling. Right.
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