Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1013 | Jase Cares for His Sick Godson & Missy Performs a Midnight Rescue
Thu, 26 Dec 2024
Jase does a stint as nighttime caretaker for his sick godson, but a kitchen accident means Missy can’t catch up on sleep and must come to the rescue instead. Zach points out that the sexual liberation of today’s culture has resulted in misery for most, but they’re starting to see the light of Jesus through the haze. Plus, what did “freedom” and “slavery” mean to the ancient Romans? In this episode: Colossians 3; Colossians 4, verse 1; John 4, verse 19 -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What challenges does Jase face as a nighttime caretaker?
I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. We got, we were having, I guess, what would you call it, Jason? An old man conversation?
It's a therapy, a therapy conversation. I feel like it was therapy when he said, I need to vent or rant. I forgot how you said it, Jason.
I thought I had a couple of rants that I had.
It's hard to get old is what I was thinking, but you may have another take on it.
What you're supposed to do when you reach my age is, you know, you have grandkids and my oldest son. that they've turned their place into a baby factory. So they got three under three.
Yeah.
But they manage it well every time I'm there. And the good thing about being a grandparent is, you know, all your, insert all your jokes here. You get to show up, but you can always leave. So it's a great place to be.
My single tagline, Jace, because now I've got them stretched out, mine are getting married, is it's all the love without the ultimate accountability. And which is a really good situation because like it's up to your kids to raise their kids ultimately. But, you know, you're part of the process, but you get to love them just like your kids.
You just don't have that ultimate responsibility, which is true.
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Chapter 2: How does Missy come to the rescue?
and so whatever the case uh and it was you know pretty extensive and affects you know him talking and eating it in his throat and mouth area so this is day uh what day see now i don't even know what day of the week it is i think this is day six of the recovery Yeah.
And, uh, you know, much better yesterday, but I've been taking the night shift, which is basically nine o'clock to nine in the morning. Because, you know, when, uh, are we talking here?
What's the age?
We're talking almost three.
Okay.
And so, uh, you know, I positioned myself. So, cause, cause I wasn't here the first two days, which were the roughest. So Missy was full time. She, she got the rough end of this. So I said, you catch up on your sleep. I'll take this. And so the first couple of nights was about every hour, you know, there was a cry out. So, you know, you don't get to really sleep. And, uh,
So I did pretty good, but now that he's a lot better, like last night was just one time. It was like 12.50, and I basically woke up and just sensed a presence somewhere, and I eased around the corner, and he was sitting on the second step, just sitting there. I was like, what's up, buddy? And he's like...
thirsty you know because his mouth gets real dry from overcoming what he's in the first night i would i would have to his nose would get so dry because it was running so bad with a little you know a little blood little snot whatever and i'd have to because he couldn't breathe because it's like once it comes out of your nose it then dries and so i didn't read a manual you know i got a warm
paper towel, and just slowly worked it, which it took probably 10 minutes. And so I've been Dr. Mom, but this morning, it was just a terrible morning. I mean, he slept. That one instance, he went back to bed, gave him something to drink, so everything's fine. So then about, I think it was 6.15 he got up. which is early. So I was like, all right, buddy, let me get you some milk here.
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Chapter 3: What insights do they share about parenting and grandparenting?
The cup is leaking.
Yeah, the cup's leaking. So now I'm trying to fix the cup. Now he's like, new pajamas, basically, is what he was saying. I was like, no.
You want someone to make sippy cups great again, is what you're telling me.
We need this. Because look, I went sippy cup to sippy cup and they all had problems. And look, they're very confusing. There's no manual at this point. Because some of them, it's like how to put it together.
I can't figure it out either. Well, it's like the gas cans, too. I can't figure out how to pour gas out of these gas cans. I mean, it's like a – I'm like, I don't know. How do you do this? I mean, you've got to twist, push down, hold. I'm like – Yeah, you know what?
Regulation. Because people say, you know, it's a safety issue. The problem is you can no longer get gas out of it, which is a – issue that I'm having because I need the gas because I can't go anywhere.
Well, it's the same thing with washing machines too. Not that y'all wash your own clothes, but when's the last time you saw a washing machine that fills up with water
that gets scalding hot to wash your clothes in you can't it's like lukewarm water it it's all like energy efficient and it like just barely puts a little bit in there but i'm like you're not getting the clothes clean with like give me the i want the old stuff i want the dryer to get super hot give me the give me the old i want the old hot water heater i mean that's what i'm saying we al and i come from a family that when we needed gas my dad handed me a piece of a water hose
and said, go get it out of there. I mean, I don't know what the safety precautions of that, but I'm pretty sure inhaling gas to get the flow going and sticking it in your tank is not a good thing for little kids to be doing. But, Al, there we are. And we turned out great, didn't we? Yeah, look at us. That may attribute to some of our problems right there.
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Chapter 4: What is the testimony shared during the baptism?
So even though it's difficult and not always easy, uh, the fact that y'all are doing what you're doing, uh, both in adoption and also just being an assistant. is to be commended. So you have accommodations.
I'll say this, Al. I go back to the days of how I remember our parents parenting us. We probably need to return to some of that, what we call the, I think now it's called free-range parenting. But I don't know what they called it back then, but it was, but You let the kids, but they have a place too. So there was that level. Think about how Phil was back in the day.
I mean, it was like you had your freedom to go do all the things you wanted to do, but you better not disrupt the gathering of the adults.
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how is phil by the way well i saw him uh two days ago and uh you know unfortunately he's had what three back procedures i guess and it's it's kind of the at this stage of his life it's put the cement in but you know your back is not designed to be
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Chapter 5: How do Jase and Zach discuss the cultural implications of freedom?
I got to establish that, assess and blame. But you know, another issue is Jay's for, for dad, um, They have, is it scoliosis? I think is the term for it, where you have these issues with your back and shoulder and a curvature, right? And so that's in our genetics. Several of dad's siblings have dealt with that. Phyllis has it as well. So, you know, there are other factors.
You get arthritis as you get older. And so there's just a lot going on there.
And the dementia and the Alzheimer's is hereditary. I got checked for that because, you know, you think about our family. There were seven kids out of that group. And if you think about it, my mom, Uncle Tommy, Phil, arguably Harold had some form of that.
Oh, he definitely did.
Harold and then our granddad. Judy, now she had cancer as well, but she had some dementia at the end of her life. So, I mean, it's hereditary.
Yeah, and he's kind of got two things going on at one time. They've known about this blood disease he's had for years, but it's just like in the last couple of years, accelerated to a... It was like he has it. He's done all kinds of treatments over the years, but it just all of a sudden accelerated. And boy, when it...
When it did and kind of manifested itself into what what it is today, which is attacking his bones. You know, I've learned a lot about this process because your blood is made from your bone marrow. So once that gets jacked up, I mean, I'm giving you my, my summation of it, you're just going to have problems. And, uh, so that's basically what accelerated, which is causing all the problems.
And then at the same time, that's what I said. They, they've kind of noticed that every time he goes under that kind of accelerates the Alzheimer's. So we've gotten a lot of medical, uh,
people that have reached out to us and we're very thankful but most of this stuff that he's dealing with has been known and and been treated for years it's just all of a sudden you know due to his age or whatever it's just accelerated
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Chapter 6: What is the significance of worship according to John 4?
Are you in? I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. Maybe not a six pack.
Let's go for a twin for a little two pack and then see where that goes.
I'm just trying to downsize the keg at this point. The whole, where we are in our text, um, and we were talking about this on the last podcast, Jace, the, the early, like second century, which is when you start kind of you know, seeing some notes of how that worship was done. Most of it was done around the Eucharist, was done around the Lord's Supper.
That was that time, which is, you know, and biblically you look back and see. And so it is kind of interesting that that's evolved into what it is today.
It reminds me of that story in John 4 when he, you know, which people look at this woman as a terrible woman because she had been married, you know, six times and was living with a guy. And it was, you know, showing the,
the dividing lines of culture we don't associate with people that are not samaritans and you know they have this interaction where god through through jesus is reaching out and showing us this you know he's gonna he's gonna just demolish these dividing lines culturally and getting to colossians 3 11 bring us all together under one head as christ
After he gets into her life and they start talking about worship, and this is John 4, 19. Sir, the woman said, I can see you're a prophet. Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem. which is so much of what we're talking about in Colossians about letting the peace of Christ rule in our hearts as members of one body.
And we get hung up on who's doing worship here and who's doing worship. It's the place. And he comes back to the point we're making about this being a person.
jesus declared believe me woman a time is coming when you will worship the father neither on this mountain nor in jerusalem which she you know that probably threw her for a loop you samaritans worship what you do not know we worship what we do know for salvation is from the jews yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers
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Chapter 7: How does the conversation shift to discussing family health issues?
Yeah. And that's, that's Paul's argument in Romans. If you go back to Romans, I mean, you can pick up anywhere in the book of Romans, but Romans nine, when he, when he says, well, you just read, uh, what Jesus said, which is salvation comes from the Jews, right? In Romans 9, Paul pretty much says the same thing. He says that, he said, for I wish I could be cut off
and were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my brothers, my kinsmen, according to the flesh. They are Israelites. And to them belongs the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises. To them belong the patriarchs. And from their race, according to the flesh, their DNA, is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
So I think that's what Jesus is talking about, too. And one of the things that Paul goes on to say is, In that Romans 9 and 10 and 11 passage, it's like this argument that he's making really from the beginning of Romans is that the Gentiles are being grafted in, starting with the Jews first, but then adding in the Gentiles.
You fast forward in the book of Romans, you get to Romans chapter 12, and it's kind of this climactic argument of for what is the purpose of all this? And the purpose of all of it is so that we would worship the one true God together. And so he defines that worship very similar to what you just said in verse Jesus' interaction with the woman at the well, when she's like, hey, where do we worship?
We go up here in this mountain on our temple, or do we go to the one down here in Jerusalem? And Jesus is like, hey, let me tell you something. It's all fixing to get flipped on its head because I'm going to define worship properly for you. It doesn't take place in a place. God wants worshipers who will worship in truth and in spirit.
Paul says it this way, that I appeal to you, therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. So you say, what is worship? Is it just us singing songs? It is that, but according to Paul, it's not just that. It's actually to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God.
This is your spiritual worship. Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed, or the Colossians passage, the renovation that we talked about last time, the renovation, be transformed by the renewal of your mind that by testing, you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect. And I love that passage that Paul says.
gives us because it really does broaden out our perspective on what worship actually is. And so this Colossians passage is just another direction that Paul's coming to the same exact bullseye in, which is what does it actually mean to worship God in the end? Well, it's directed at a person in a relationship with a person and giving him praise, which is what we sing when we sing the doxology.
And it's a connection. Singing is... to the heart. And it's interesting because like we, you know, it's Christmas season now. And it's interesting because obviously we have a Chris spiritual Christmas songs that we sing in association with Christ and him coming.
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Chapter 8: What reflections do they have on life's challenges and faith?
A husband who loves his wife and a wife who's submitting to her husband. That's the terminology here. he uses, but it is based on who we are in Jesus. But it becomes more of a partnership than I had ever noticed before until we were studying this in depth.
And you really see that in the book of Philemon, because even when he gets into this, you know, slaves and masters, what the Roman family looked like. Well, we would think, what was their biggest objection? Well, the first thing they're going to object to is that you can't be harsh with your wife or treating her with respect. And they're like, what? I'm in charge here.
And you would want him just maybe to abolish this idea of slavery and masters and people being under you. But the same principle comes out He was saying, this is how we're going to live for Jesus within the family dynamic, within the dynamic of paying off debts and working and all those situations, which was profound to their world.
Because you go back and look at the Roman rule of families and basically the head of the family could do whatever he wanted to.
It's more of a liberation. I think some people will read these passages that we're getting to and maybe see them as limiting. But that's actually got to understand them as they're written in their cultural context. They're actually very liberating.
And I think that going back to what I said in a previous podcast, too, that we have to start with who God is first and then understanding who is He first. How does God interact in his inner life? Meaning, how does God interact with Father, Son, Holy Spirit? What is that dynamic about? What is that like?
And the more that we think about that and contemplate who he is, then it does form us into the kind of people that we should be. And furthermore, how we relate to one another. And so when we talk about this, we've mentioned this word peace quite a bit in the last probably four episodes.
You're never going to have peace, or I'll say it this way, you're going to have peace to the degree that you reflect
your true nature if i'm reflecting something that's not me well then you're not going to have peace right because i'm not aligned with who i am and so when i can align with who i really am that's that's how you get peace so to understand who i am though according to the biblical teaching i first need to understand who god is because i'm made in his image and so that's why we start there and then it flows out into how does this play out in relationships and
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