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Titanic: Ship of Dreams

1. The Biggest Ship in the World

Mon, 07 Apr 2025

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At a dinner party in London’s Belgrave Square, two men discuss plans for a luxury ocean liner like nothing ever seen. The finest designers and craftsmen begin work in Belfast. A soon to be retired Captain Smith steps on board to take command. But a pair of binoculars goes missing in the process. Liverpool lad Jimmy McGann wangles a job in Titanic’s engine room. A passenger called Esther Hart has a terrifying premonition. And the gargantuan ship claims her first victim - before even touching water… A Noiser podcast production. Narrated by Paul McGann. Featuring Josyann Abisaab, Stephanie Barczewski, Jerome Chertkoff, Julian Fellowes, Veronica Hinke, Tim Maltin, Stephen McGann, Susie Millar, Claes-Göran Wetterholm. Special thanks to Southampton Archives, Culture and Tourism for the use of the Eva Hart archive. Visit SeaCity Museum for an interactive experience of the Titanic story (seacitymuseum.co.uk) Written by Duncan Barrett | Produced by Miriam Baines and Duncan Barrett | Exec produced by Joel Duddell | Sound design & audio editing by Tom Pink | Assembly editing by Dorry Macaulay, Rob Plummer, Liam Cameron | Compositions by Oliver Baines and Dorry Macaulay | Mix & mastering: Cian Ryan-Morgan | Recording engineer: Joseph McGann | Nautical consultant: Aaron Todd. Get every episode of Titanic: Ship of Dreams two weeks early, as well as ad-free listening, by joining Noiser+. Click the subscription banner at the top of the feed to get started. Or go to noiser.com/subscriptions Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What happened on May 31, 1911, in Belfast?

2.941 - 33.565 Duncan Barrett

It's May the 31st, 1911. We're in Belfast, the heart of Britain's shipbuilding industry. To be specific, the north yard of Harland and Wolfe's vast 80-acre construction site. And for the tens of thousands of men who work here, it's a red-letter day. Up in the grandstands specially built for the occasion, a 74-year-old man takes his seat. He's an imposing figure.

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Chapter 2: Who was J.P. Morgan and what was his role with Titanic?

34.705 - 63.031 Duncan Barrett

Six foot two with broad shoulders, piercing eyes, and a fearsome walrus moustache. Not to mention a bulbous purple nose, a kind generally attributed to excessive drinking. Not that anyone seated around this gentleman would dare suggest anything of the kind. Because he also happens to be one of the richest men in the world. John Pierpont Morgan, otherwise known as JP.

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64.132 - 95.824 Duncan Barrett

He's come to Belfast especially to get a good look at his latest investment. It's the biggest seagoing vessel ever built. In fact, the biggest movable object in history. And today it's about to move for the first time. A hundred thousand spectators are lining the banks of the River Lagen. All eyes are on slipway number three, where the magnificent new ship stands bolt upright, perfectly still.

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97.224 - 132.237 Duncan Barrett

A giant black hull glimmering in the midday sun. To the Harland & Wolff shipwrights, she's known as SS 401. To everyone else, Titanic. Even without her four majestic funnels, those will be winched into place later, the new liner is an overwhelming sight. She towers 100 feet from top to bottom, and almost 900 feet long. Her rudder alone is the size of a cricket pitch.

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Those who weren't lucky enough to score an official invite have climbed onto the nearby rooftops to get a good view. Others have scaled the masts of the smaller ships bobbing in the lagoon, minnows to this hulking leviathan, all of them waiting with bated breath to see the giant ship move. At 12.05pm, a red flag is flown at Titanic's stern. The ten-minute countdown begins.

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in titanic shadow a small army of men are hard at work ant-like they scurry back and forth getting everything ready the slipway has been coated with 21 tons of grease now burly shipwrights are getting ready to knock out the giant timber stays that hold the vessel in place a rocket fires signaling five minutes to go then another 60 seconds left now. This is a precision operation.

201.74 - 229.915 Duncan Barrett

The Edwardian equivalent of a NASA launch at Cape Canaveral. Finally, the moment of truth. There's no champagne bottle smashing. Titanic's operators, White Star, don't believe in such archaic superstitions. Only the sound of hydraulic triggers firing. Everyone holds their breath. For a moment, it looks like she won't move after all.

231.136 - 260.513 Duncan Barrett

Freed from her wooden moorings, the giant ship stands stock still, a towering, immobile monument. Then, almost imperceptibly, she begins sliding towards the water, gradually picking up speed, 5, 10, 15 miles per hour. Finally, after the longest 62 seconds in history, Titanic floats freely for the first time.

Chapter 3: How did Titanic's launch lead to a tragic accident?

266.66 - 288.909 Duncan Barrett

But while all eyes are on the ship in the Lagen, there is a crisis playing out 500 meters away at the top of the slipway. Under the giant gantry that until a minute ago housed the Titanic, 43-year-old shipwright James Dobbin lies seriously injured. He's been crushed under a heavy wooden support. His pelvis is shattered.

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While James' wife Rachel watches the launch with their son Jimmy, enchanted by the sight of the great ship floating for the first time, His colleagues are hauling him out from under a heavy weight of timber. James is bundled into a Holland & Wolfe car and taken straight to the nearest infirmary. While J.P.

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310.815 - 347.214 Duncan Barrett

Morgan and his fellow VIPs enjoy a slap-up lunch before embarking on a pleasure cruise to Liverpool, the doctors at the Royal Victoria Hospital are doing all they can to save James Dobbins' life. Ultimately, their efforts will prove futile. Even before touching water, Titanic has claimed her first victim. From the Noisa Podcast Network, this is Titanic Ship of Dreams, part one.

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368.277 - 377.681 Julian Fellowes

Titanic is this metaphor for the whole of mankind. I think the reason ultimately why we're talking about Titanic today is because it speaks to the human condition.

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378.721 - 387.565 Stephanie Barczewski

There is only one more story that is more popular in the history of mankind and that is the story of how Jesus was crucified.

388.735 - 403.452 Paul McGann

It became known as the Ship of Dreams, the largest and heaviest moving man-made machine built to date. And this complex and ancient relationship between man and technology has always been captivating.

405.134 - 419.501 Stephen McGann

Here you have the biggest ship in the world carrying the richest people in the world and also the poorest. And this supposedly unsinkable ship sinks on her maiden voyage. It's such an unbelievable story.

419.741 - 425.804 Claes-Göran Wetterholm

There's so much material there to impose so many symbolic meanings on it.

427.225 - 430.727 Jerome Chertkoff

As always, the truth is a little bit more intricate.

Chapter 4: What were Titanic's main features and innovations?

828.22 - 837.104 Duncan Barrett

Klaus-Johan Wetterholm is the author of five books in Swedish about the Titanic disaster, and the curator of Titanic, the exhibition.

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837.924 - 862.893 Stephanie Barczewski

They had been testing a lot and realized that the cost for driving a ship so fast to beat Lusitania and Mauritania was impossible because the cost was far too high. So it was decided that they should not build high-speed vessels. It was safety, luxury and comfort which was the important main issues when building these ships.

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864.353 - 871.996 Duncan Barrett

Titanic and her two sisters will be part of a major play by White Star for domination of the lucrative transatlantic passenger route.

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874.15 - 892.306 Claes-Göran Wetterholm

They are largely competing for two groups of passengers. So they're competing for upper-class wealthy passengers. They're also competing, though, for this is the age of immigration. So they are also carrying large numbers of steerage passengers across the Atlantic on one-way voyages to permanent new lives in the United States.

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893.547 - 912.509 Claes-Göran Wetterholm

This means that they need to be big because they need to hold a lot of steerage passengers and because they need to provide luxurious accommodation for the upper class passengers. And it means that they need to be fast because the first class passengers want to get where they're going. They want to know that they're going to leave Southampton at whatever, 5 p.m.

912.549 - 930.139 Claes-Göran Wetterholm

on a Friday, and they're going to get to New York at 5 p.m. on a Wednesday or whatever the timing of the particular voyage is. It used to be that you'd take off across the Atlantic and, you know, it might take two weeks and it might take six weeks. Who knows, right? Now this idea that these ships can power themselves across the Atlantic on a very regular schedule is important.

931.912 - 947.109 Duncan Barrett

With three brand new ships plying their way back and forth across the Atlantic, the hope is that Whitestar can outdo Cunard's slightly faster two-ship offering. And even if one of the three is put out of action, the weekly service won't be interrupted.

948.357 - 961.99 Claes-Göran Wetterholm

You know, White Star has always been a little bit to Cunard, the sort of second shipping line in Britain, right? It starts out not being particularly prestigious at all, right? And then the Titanic, you know, sort of represents the pinnacle of, oh, White Star's finally sort of caught up to Cunard.

962.17 - 974.121 Claes-Göran Wetterholm

They've built these fantastically luxurious ships and they're finally going to be like just the equal to Cunard in terms of the rivalry. And then it's not like they go out of business after Titanic, but they don't, they're not really going to fully recover from the most famous maritime disaster in history.

Chapter 5: What was the significance of Titanic's first-class accommodations?

Chapter 6: Who were the key figures involved in Titanic's design and construction?

656.777 - 681.297 Duncan Barrett

Thomas Ismay was what you might picture as a titan of industry. Bruce very much the eldest boy who just happened to succeed him. Nonetheless, he has big plans for White Star, and they hinge on the company's long-standing relationship with Lord Pirrie's Harland & Wolfe. Thanks to a deal struck 40 years earlier, the two firms have an exclusive relationship.

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White Star entrust all their big construction projects to the Belfast firm, and in return, Harland and Wolfe promised not to build ships for their competitors. It's an arrangement that has seen White Star's fortunes rise, to become a major player in the transatlantic passenger trade. After dinner, Ismay and Piri sit up smoking together.

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706.852 - 734.557 Duncan Barrett

And it's here, at least according to Titanic mythology, that they first come up with the idea for a new kind of liner. Not quite scribble down the back of a napkin, but not far off it either. This new vessel will need to be bigger, better, more luxurious than anything passengers have seen before. The dream of Titanic is born. Well, sort of.

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735.918 - 760.696 Duncan Barrett

In fact, according to most modern experts, plans for a trio of plus-size liners must have been underway well before Piri's party in London. The huge new gantries required to build them were already under construction. What exactly Piri and Ismay discussed that evening, like so many of the key moments in the Titanic story, is shrouded in mystery and myth.

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762.076 - 791.072 Duncan Barrett

What we do know is that sometime around 1907, both White Star and Harland and Wolfe begin laying the groundwork for Titanic, along with her two sister ships, Olympic and Gigantic. And both Ismay and Piri are heavily invested in ensuring that they get the new ships right. White Star's market standing depends on it. Professor Stephanie Baczewski is the author of Titanic, A Night Remembered.

791.957 - 809.503 Claes-Göran Wetterholm

So the Titanic is very much the product of a maritime arms race. The big ocean liner companies of the time, so in Britain it would have been Cunard and White Star, are competing on this kind of sliding scale. Cunard has sort of won the race to build the fastest ships, right?

809.523 - 826.686 Claes-Göran Wetterholm

They have launched a few years before the Lusitania and the Mauritania too, also of the most famous ocean liners of this kind of golden age of ocean liners. White Star decides not to compete. on speed, they decide that you're not going to beat the Lusitania and the Mauritania for speed. They're going to go for luxury.

828.22 - 837.104 Duncan Barrett

Klaus-Johan Wetterholm is the author of five books in Swedish about the Titanic disaster, and the curator of Titanic, the exhibition.

837.924 - 862.893 Stephanie Barczewski

They had been testing a lot and realized that the cost for driving a ship so fast to beat Lusitania and Mauritania was impossible because the cost was far too high. So it was decided that they should not build high-speed vessels. It was safety, luxury and comfort which was the important main issues when building these ships.

Chapter 7: What led to the missing binoculars and how did it impact Titanic's voyage?

2073.477 - 2082.242 Duncan Barrett

Julian Fellows is the award-winning creator of Downton Abbey, The Gilded Age, and the 2012 miniseries Titanic.

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2083.402 - 2107.922 Jerome Chertkoff

He'd been responsible. for bringing everything aboard, checking it off, storing it, and so on. One of the funny things about the Titanic, given its size, was that the storage was in rather short supply. You often come across theaters that have been built with too few dressing rooms. The Titanic was quite similar. It was built with too little storage.

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2108.542 - 2118.546 Jerome Chertkoff

And so things were sort of shut here and put in there and in this drawer and that cupboard. And David Blair knew where everything was, and they sent him off.

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2120.667 - 2147.126 Duncan Barrett

How much of an impact the missing binoculars will have on Titanic's fate is debatable, even today. Would seeing the iceberg a few seconds earlier have given the crew time to avoid it? Jerome Chertkoff is Professor Emeritus of Psychological and Brain Sciences at the University of Indiana. His books include Don't Panic! The Psychology of Emergency Egress and Ingress,

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Chapter 8: How did Titanic's story reflect the era's social dynamics?

2148.633 - 2164.318 Tim Maltin

When they left Belfast for Southampton, the second officer left and nobody got the binoculars from him. Nobody came up with another set of binoculars for the lookouts. The lookouts didn't have binoculars.

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2164.999 - 2177.843 Tim Maltin

The lookouts testified at the Senate hearing and the Board of Trade that in their opinion, if they had had binoculars, they'd have seen the iceberg sooner and that they would have been able to avoid it.

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2179.028 - 2193.375 Jerome Chertkoff

I mean, I don't really subscribe to the theory that the Titanic sank because nobody had any binoculars. But I do think the fact of getting rid of the officer who knew where everything was, was a mistake.

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2199.218 - 2217.633 Duncan Barrett

Built in Belfast and registered in Liverpool, Titanic will in fact set sail from Southampton. Although the journey to New York would be 100 miles shorter from White Star's headquarters on Merseyside, these days all transatlantic passenger trips depart from the southern English port.

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2218.833 - 2231.956 Claes-Göran Wetterholm

Passenger shipping had shifted from sailing out of Liverpool to sailing out of Southampton quite recently because Southampton has the advantage. Because of the Isle of Wight, there's a double tide in Southampton, so ships can get out of Southampton twice a day rather than just once a day out of Liverpool.

2233.775 - 2256.394 Duncan Barrett

As a result, it's from Southampton that the majority of the ship's crew are recruited. 431 men and women in the catering department alone, 290 stewards and stewardesses, and 280 of the city's strongest, toughest men to work in the engine rooms. But not all the new recruits are born and bred Southerners.

2257.795 - 2274.254 Duncan Barrett

One recent addition to the roster is Tommy Miller, the Belfast man who helped build and install the ship's engines for Harland and Wolfe. After a personal tragedy, Tommy is looking for a fresh start, and he's pretty sure he's found it in America.

2275.359 - 2300.429 Stephen McGann

My great-grandmother Jeannie died in January of 1912, and she'd had TB, so she died pretty suddenly. And it seems that everything happened pretty quickly, because within three months, there was Tommy signed up as the assistant deck engineer on Titanic. Really, his motivation was to give a change of scene to the family. He wanted a fresh start. And here was the opportunity.

2300.529 - 2308.536 Stephen McGann

He was qualified to do the job. And he probably saw himself working for White Star for many years to come, but just based on the other side of the Atlantic.

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