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This is Gavin Newsom

And, This Is Michael Savage

Mon, 10 Mar 2025

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Gavin sits down with long-time conservative commentator Dr. Michael Savage to dissect his “Borders, Language, Culture” ideology.IG: @GavinNewsomTikTok: @GavinNewsomSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chapter 1: What are the backgrounds of Gavin Newsom and Dr. Michael Savage?

9.088 - 14.212 Gavin Newsom

This is Gavin Newsom. And this is Michael Savage.

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16.113 - 19.696 Gavin Newsom

The hell are you doing here? What are we doing here, the two of us, of all people?

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20.096 - 35.667 Dr. Michael Savage

Well, we're supposedly political polar opposites, which we probably are. However, as I say on my TV show, you don't have to like my politics to like me. And a lot of people seem to like me but hate my politics. Some actually like me and my politics, which is the ideal.

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36.287 - 53.235 Gavin Newsom

I love it. So we've known each other. I mean, full disclosure, so folks may not know this. We've known each other over the course, on and off, for a couple decades now, right? I mean, back, I remember you, I was joking with Trump the other day in the Oval Office. I said, you know, before, you know, you calling me new scum is not novel. Oh, that's disgusting.

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53.275 - 56.257 Gavin Newsom

Savage had a version of that early on when I was mayor.

56.277 - 64.421 Dr. Michael Savage

Oh, Annie Twosome Newsome. Thank you very much. Should I tell that story? No, you shouldn't tell that story. It's got your great father involved in it.

64.441 - 65.261 Gavin Newsom

Did he get involved in it?

65.541 - 85.06 Dr. Michael Savage

No, I was in a North Beach restaurant. Would you remember the heyday of the North Beach restaurant? I mean, come on. Your dad, may he rest in peace, Judge Newsom was there. I was introduced to him, and I said, you were the Board of Supervisors chairman, and you had just introduced gay marriage at resolution. And I said, Judge, your son just made the biggest career error of his life. He's finished.

85.501 - 87.442 Dr. Michael Savage

And he said, you know, I agree with you, Michael. Well, guess what?

Chapter 2: How did Dr. Michael Savage's early career shape his political views?

1248.122 - 1267.368 Gavin Newsom

Boredom, vice, and need. Look, I'm with you. But I think it's important, just in California, the vast majority of middle-class taxpayers pay less than they do in California, middle class, than they do in states like Texas. Well- It's a question of who you're for. We have the highest- How much, to what level? What level do they pay low? We are an average to slightly above average taxed state.

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1268.008 - 1279.275 Gavin Newsom

It's the 1%. And by the way, we haven't raised your taxes at the 1% since 2011. And it wasn't, by the way, it wasn't governor. It wasn't lieutenant governor. I just became lieutenant governor. It was the voters of California that did that.

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1279.315 - 1285.78 Dr. Michael Savage

But I don't disagree with you. Poor people always vote for taxation on the rich. That's what Karl Marx taught them to do. So the thing is-

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1286.22 - 1307.455 Gavin Newsom

By the way, I'm not advocating for increasing taxes. Haven't done it as governor of the state of California. No income tax increases under my governorship. I've opposed them. In fact, did $5 million of ads to stop Proposition 30, which was a tax increase run by corporations in the Bay Area that had their own special tax increase where I did ads to oppose it and oppose the wealth tax in California.

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1307.475 - 1311.277 Gavin Newsom

So we're trying to keep you here, Dr. Savage. keep you in the great state of California.

1311.297 - 1312.778 Dr. Michael Savage

I will leave if my taxes go up.

1312.858 - 1314.418 Gavin Newsom

I know, and we're working hard against that.

1314.438 - 1321.9 Dr. Michael Savage

So, look, I made a little list. Borders, voting, illegal aliens who are voting in the state. Is that still illegal?

1322.16 - 1333.063 Gavin Newsom

Of course, it was always illegal. It wasn't never not illegal. Okay, so I'll bring up voters. By the way, what substantive evidence is there to suggest that you have any receipts to back up that all of these people are voting illegally in California?

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