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Chapter 1: Who is today's guest on the podcast?
With me, Jake Shane. Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapus. Today, we have, honestly, such an exciting guest. Phineas is here, who I'm such a major fan of, and it was such an honor and a pleasure to get to speak to him. But before we get into that, I just got back from Alex's birthday weekend in Key West. I have never been to Key West. And I also have never been to a Fat Tuesdays.
Chapter 2: What was Jake's experience at Alex's birthday in Key West?
So I did that for the first time as well. And it was fucking awesome. I had no idea Fat Tuesdays existed. It was... Like, I love slushies. So slushies with alcohol at a bar setting with a DJ is just so ideal. But I had such a fun time celebrating Alex. Celebrating her was... Incredible. And I am dead now, but it was worth it. I am seeing Billie Eilish and I'm so excited. It's very fitting. I know.
Very fitting for my episode with Phineas this week. But that reminds me that today's episode is sponsored by. Again, by SeatGeek, my fucking queens. Use my code THERAPIST10 for 10% off your ticket. Doesn't matter if you've already purchased a ticket with SeatGeek before. There are so many incredible artists on tour and going on tour now, as we all know and love.
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Bad and green means the ticket is better or good. So SeatGeek makes it super easy to have a really simple concert or comedy show or Broadway play live event going experience. Live music and just live events in general are, I think, great. literally the backbone of happiness in our society. They are really where art comes to life in such a beautiful way and such a fun setting.
I loved touring, so I now have a newfound appreciation for it. I always appreciated it, but I really do have a newfound appreciation for it. So yeah, the code is THERAPUS10, 10% off. And thank you SeatGeek for sponsoring this episode. Without further ado, I present to you, Phineas. You have gorgeous eyes.
That's so sweet of you. So do you.
Okay, can I say something? Sure. I know. It's like my favorite. It's my favorite part of myself. Do you have like a favorite part of yourself?
Ooh. Um, okay. This is a goofy like music person thing, but I got, I got a wide hand. So like playing piano, I got like a, like a C to a D or an E. Wow. Yeah.
Is that like learning another language? Like learning how to play the piano and like all of those things?
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Chapter 3: How does Finneas approach scoring music for films?
Game of Thrones.
Game of Thrones. Anything that you're humming that isn't a song from somewhere else is the score of the show.
That is fascinating. So you watch the scenes and then you base...
I read the script and then wrote some pieces just kind of from inspiration of the script. Some of those made it in. Some of them didn't. Some of them were wrong. Because then once you see the scene, you're like, oh, this looks different than I pictured it in my head. Right. Let me write something to the picture. Oh. And then, you know, it's a back and forth with the filmmaker.
Like anything where, you know, he goes, yeah, I like this part. But then it needs to, you know, climax in a different way and whatever else.
And you had fun doing it.
I did. It was pretty like challenging. Like there was a kind of an ego death in it because you'd make a, like a lot of what I do, I'm very much like in charge. Right. You know, I'm making my own album and I'm worrying about if I think it's ready or not. I don't know what your relationship with like, do you have a boss? Does, does therapist have a boss? Does, does Jake Shane have a boss?
Or is the audience the boss?
Yeah, I was about to say, I feel like the general public is the boss.
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Chapter 4: What unique experiences did Finneas have growing up in a family of musicians?
Oh, I say right, right?
I say you know a lot.
Oh, okay.
And when I watch a clip back that I have to approve, I'm aggravated by my speech pattern. Oh, I said like too many times.
Like is like just a part of the English language at this point. So true. Well, I mean, it literally is, but like it really like, it really is like.
like like you know what i mean like it's like it's just like you know you don't you're not wearing headphones right now no i'm not wearing headphones right now and i prefer that because i would get distracted by hearing my own voice okay so funny you mentioned that i started the first episode i ever did of this i had headphones on i took them off halfway because i was like this is fucked too distracted yeah yeah even just the little mouth noises whatever it is kind of annoyed by it
But when you're recording a song, you have to hear yourself back.
I do one can on, one off.
Oh, okay.
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Chapter 5: What are the differences between Jake's and Finneas's music production styles?
We have a lot of love for them. Did you guys, how, wait, what's your age gap?
Four years.
Four years. So you guys were, there was a time when you were in that together.
My voice had, there was at the time, I think it's changed now, but at the time, Once your voice changes as a guy, you go to an ensemble of men.
Okay.
With deeper voices.
Understood.
So I was never... My voice changed by the time Billy was in the choir. Okay. So I was like, ah, I'm in the other one. Right. But it would have been really cute.
That would have been cute and fun. And then you guys started working together, obviously.
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Chapter 6: What insights does Finneas share about working with his partner in creative projects?
Yeah, but also like right as it got taken away, I was feeling like I wasn't down anymore.
Sure. Okay.
So I was like, okay. And then junior year started. We were all on campus or off campus living, but we weren't going out because it was COVID. Yeah. But I was working at a record label at the time. I just fell in love with it. And I fell in love with like the music industry and the music business. And then I became, that's kind of like what my last two years of college became encompassed by.
That's so cool. Did you grow up in LA?
Well, I was born in LA. I grew up in New York, but I summered here. My parents now live here. Cool. I think close to where you grew up. You grew up in Pasadena.
Highland Park.
Highland.
But same deal. I love that whole trifecta of like New York, Pasadena, Highland Park.
Right, right. I think that's a great area. Do your parents still live there? No.
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Chapter 7: How do Finneas and Jake handle insecurities during creative processes?
That is, yeah, that is a trifecta, right? I wasn't like so far off.
No, they're right there. Okay, right. Yeah, they're right next to each other.
Pasadena has an Erewhon now.
Pasadena, I mean, Pasadena has an Erewhon. Highland Park has a La Labo. Shut the fuck up. Highland Park has a Jenny's.
No way.
It has a Mendocino Farms.
You like Mendocino Farms?
I actually love it.
I don't know why I can't get behind it.
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Chapter 8: What are the latest projects Finneas is excited about?
That's true. That's true. You don't. No, friends of mine have, like, after, you know, some form of sushi or some form of, like, fast food, they have that bad day the next day. I have less of those than my pals.
Right, and you must feel, I mean, yeah.
You know what I had the other day? What? That I fully endorse? Part of my TikTok algorithm is the baked potato guys in England. Do you see these? He sees them.
What are they called?
Spud brothers?
Spud man. Spud man.
Okay. So it's a food truck in England. It's the most English shit ever. It's a guy with a GoPro. Okay. It's so cold. Everything is like steaming to show you how cold it is, right? Love that. And they're called jacket potatoes, which America baked potato. Right. Okay. But because it's England, they're putting baked beans all over their baked potato. They're putting cheese.
They're putting, not in my case, but in other cases, they're putting some tuna on the side.
That is fucking despicable.
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