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The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart

History (and Trump) Repeats with Jon Meacham

Thu, 16 Jan 2025

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As America braces for a second Trump administration, we're joined by historian Jon Meacham to place our current moment within the broader sweep of U.S. history. Together, we examine whether Trump's explicit rhetoric about territorial expansion and open billionaire support truly represents something unprecedented, reflect on how the Biden administration might be remembered, and consider what patterns from our past tell us about America's future. Follow The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart on social media for more:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@weeklyshowpodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/weeklyshowpodcast TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@weeklyshowpodcast  X: https://x.com/weeklyshowpod   BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/theweeklyshowpodcast.com Host/Executive Producer – Jon Stewart Executive Producer – James Dixon Executive Producer – Chris McShane Executive Producer – Caity Gray Lead Producer – Lauren Walker Producer – Brittany Mehmedovic  Video Editor & Engineer – Rob Vitolo Audio Editor & Engineer – Nicole Boyce Researcher & Associate Producer – Gillian Spear Music by Hansdle Hsu — This podcast is brought to you by: ZipRecruiter Try it for free at this exclusive web address: ziprecruiter.com/ZipWeekly Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 4: How does Jon Meacham analyze the peaceful transfer of power?

1400.629 - 1403.03 Jon Stewart

And then we went to the subcommittee.

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1403.35 - 1406.651 Jon Stewart

Are they ever like, Dad, you know, they make roller coasters. You can get on them?

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1406.771 - 1445.584 Jon Stewart

No, no, no. We don't do that. We're very, very serious here. So, and I came back and I do my TV stuff from my basement. Mm-hmm. And so I was doing, say, commenting at, say, 11 p.m., And it had really been a kind of, again, unsettling moment where you had an incumbent president trying to bully a former vice president. It just wasn't where we wanted to be, in my view.

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1446.664 - 1456.531 Jon Stewart

And it was one of these things where President Trump had kept sort of talking about the mayor of Moscow. He was speaking in this kind of Fox News.

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1456.792 - 1460.175 Jon Stewart

That's right. Russia, Russia, Russia and all that. Yeah.

1460.575 - 1484.402 Jon Stewart

And different illusions I didn't fully understand. So I was sitting there talking probably to Brian Williams and what do you think? And I said, you know, something to the following effect. You know, Donald Trump basically appeals to the white man's lizard brains. And it's sort of this elemental thing, which is what I meant.

1484.842 - 1513.44 Jon Stewart

Now, that was a gift wrapped to right wing ecosystem because suddenly it became that I had called Trump supporters lizard brains. Right. And it was fairly, there were threats, you know, there was, you know, all that stuff. Familiar with that. Yeah, absolutely you are. More so. And it was a lesson to me that you can't walk into it.

1513.7 - 1537.073 Jon Stewart

The basic point I was trying to make was that there is an elemental feel here. Greenland is part of that. Right. It's like, all right, we, as you were just saying, we want to grab it. One of the things that worries me most, and tell me if you're seeing this in your world, I think this exhaustion, the resistance exhaustion is a very real thing.

1537.673 - 1550.179 Jon Stewart

Oh, no, I think there's, there's no question about that. I think, you know, you, you spoke of, you know, January 6th and 2020 being a demarcation point for you. And I, and I feel the same way, you know, we can talk about degrees of,

Chapter 5: What role does historical context play in understanding current events?

3415.518 - 3416.278 Unknown Speaker

We have both.

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3416.618 - 3420.22 Jon Stewart

What do they got for us? Hopefully they've had a nice break as well.

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3420.9 - 3423.881 Unknown Speaker

Yeah, they gave us some really thoughtful feedback over the break.

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3424.181 - 3425.562 Jon Stewart

Yeah, let me hear it.

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3426.13 - 3439.522 Unknown Speaker

Um, John, I grew up watching you and enjoy your program all the time. I wish you knew how crazy you have become. Not as bad as Colbert, but nonetheless, very bad.

3440.283 - 3451.893 Jon Stewart

Very bad. You know what I love about all those? It's always like, I've been a fan of yours my whole life. I love everything you do, but you've really made a turn. And I'm like, you haven't watched a minute of me.

3452.454 - 3453.434 Unknown Speaker

Oh, I've got more.

3453.454 - 3471.298 Jon Stewart

Because I'm the same dumb asshole I have been since the start, unfortunately. Yeah, what's the other? Is it all along that sort of- There's a theme. Yeah, the theme is always like, you were great until now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay.

3471.838 - 3473.178 Unknown Speaker

You're smiling. You love this.

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