The Tucker Carlson Show
Jeffrey Sachs: Tulsi Gabbard’s Confirmation, and the Dangerous Global Chess Game Trump Is Winning
18 Feb 2025
Can Donald Trump actually end the Ukraine war? Jeffrey Sachs thinks he can. (00:00) Jeffrey Sachs’ Story on How He Met Viktor Orban (02:55) Bill Clinton’s Shadowy Deep State Project (11:05) The Three Most Important Things Donald Trump Has Done So Far (14:55) Why Can’t We Have Rational Conversations Anymore? (23:55) The Global Chess Game of American Dominance Paid partnerships with: ExpressVPN: Get 4 extra months free at https://ExpressVPN.com/Tucker PureTalk: Get an iPhone 14 or Samsung Galaxy for $0 https://PureTalk.com/Tucker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to introduce someone who I consider one of the smartest people I know and whose understanding of the world is matched only by his ability to synthesize huge themes and illustrate them with precise detail. Someone who's traveled the world for 40 years, a man who not only writes about leaders of the world, but knows them personally, Professor Jeffrey Sachs.
Thank you very much, Jeff. Thank you. So how long, you were telling me backstage, I didn't realize this, for those who enjoyed Prime Minister Orban, I'm one of them. Tell us when you first met the Prime Minister.
We met 46 years ago, 36 years ago, sorry, 36 years ago, 1989. He was just getting out of jail at that point. No, yeah, they were just opening up and this young guy was starting a political party. And he gave me a call and we sat in our my backyard and in Boston for a few hours. And I thought, OK, this guy is going to be prime minister for most of the next 36 years. It's very, very impressive.
Very impressive now. So you said that you saw in him and it's not just about him, but it's about what are the markers of enduring leadership? What makes this politician impressive while most of them are not impressive? What did you see in him? What do you see in leaders like him who have been successful?
This was 1989. It was even before the Berlin Wall fell, but Hungary had cut the barbed wire. So people were that was the beginning of the end in 1989 of the Soviet domination of Eastern Europe. And this young guy said, I'm going to make a political party, and I'm going to be a leader, and I'm going to make a new Hungary. And what he showed was vision that, look, we're a great country.
We've been held back for the last 45 years. I'm going to help lead the way. And it was Fidesz, Young Democrats, I think was the translation of it. And he just had the idea, we're going to move forward. He was a kid. And we were all kids then. And you could see that there was energy, vision, foresight. And it proved right.
Yeah. And a toughness. So you heard his analysis, I think, of where we are with the war in Ukraine, election of Trump on the basis in part of his promise to to try to end this if he can.
you saw the new secretary of defense say no we're not going to support ukraine's entry into nato where are we now you know yesterday was the most important day for peace in maybe decades actually this war in ukraine resulted from a very bad idea of the United States taken in 1994. It's a project. The project was a project to expand NATO Forever. Anywhere. Just keep moving east.
Keep moving not only to the first wave, which was the prime minister's country, Hungary, Czech Republic and Slovakia, but then move eastward, closer to the former Soviet Union, into the former Soviet Union, surround Russia. in the Black Sea region, go all the way to a little country in the South Caucasus, Georgia. It was mind-boggling. Clinton signed on to that in 1994.
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