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SATs & Pop Culture Conspiracies : Thursday, January 23rd, 2025

Thu, 23 Jan 2025

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2025 Oscar Nominations (PEOPLE) (19:20)Billy Ray Cyrus' family 'genuinely worried' after disastrous Trump inauguration performance (Page Six) (31:24)Truth about Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's 'divorce' book deal revealed (Page Six) (37:18)Vanderpump Rules' Ally Lewber Announces Split from James Kennedy After His Domestic Violence Arrest (PEOPLE) (52:15)Aaron and Nick Carter's Sister to Tell Family's 'Extreme High and Tragic Lows' in Paramount+ Doc (Variety) (59:31)The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob) Lean InThe Camper and The Counselor by Jackie OshryMerchThe Toast PatreonGirl With No Job by Claudia OshrySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Chapter 1: What are the Oscar nominations for 2025?

Chapter 2: What happened during Billy Ray Cyrus' Trump inauguration performance?

296.615 - 309.121 Jackie Oshry

You guys, it literally made like the school newspaper. It was so crazy. And so I- I think now it's like 50-50 split. Like kids just decide which ones to take. But back in my day, it was new.

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309.141 - 313.803 Claudia Oshry

I actually think more people take the ACTs these days. I think the SAT has been like canceled.

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313.923 - 314.283 Jackie Oshry

Good.

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314.323 - 317.684 Claudia Oshry

Like us taking the SATs is really giving away our age.

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318.084 - 330.809 Jackie Oshry

Oh my God. So true. I took the ACTs. Literally. That's what I'm saying. One of the worst experiences of my life was that stupid fucking test. And not even the test itself. the tutoring, like the studying up until those big books.

330.909 - 333.331 Claudia Oshry

Oh my God, going downtown every week to take a practice test.

Chapter 3: What is the truth about Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's 'divorce' book deal?

333.351 - 339.994 Jackie Oshry

To take a practice test. Waking up so early to do that. And like those SAT study groups, like it was just...

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341.857 - 349.862 Claudia Oshry

It was horrible. It was, but do you remember, I think it was on the practice test, like when you had to sign your name, it said, I am who I am. Oh, that's how we got here.

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349.882 - 351.162 Jackie Oshry

On my practice test.

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351.903 - 355.905 Claudia Oshry

I don't think it was on the real thing, cause like that's preposterous.

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355.965 - 366.047 Jackie Oshry

I don't think so either. That's preposterous. I also would love to, you know what, just really quickly, Do you have SAT questions? Like, was the test that hard or were we like done?

366.127 - 377.972 Claudia Oshry

I just want to say, I saw on X, like an LSAT question that was like, there are 10 really hard questions on the LSATs and here's one of them. And if you can get this, like you probably would like fare well on the LSAT. Okay.

378.012 - 378.932 Jackie Oshry

I've seen those before too.

379.693 - 386.556 Claudia Oshry

Okay. So I read it through. I chose my answer. And then in the comments, they like, didn't, I never knew what the answer was, but I think I got it right.

390.268 - 390.248 Claudia Oshry

179?

Chapter 4: What led to Ally Lewber's split from James Kennedy?

431.587 - 436.25 Claudia Oshry

Yeah, or we're just like old and we should know these things and maybe when we were juniors, we didn't.

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436.81 - 438.852 Jackie Oshry

Yeah, I would just genuinely love to know the answer.

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439.485 - 445.739 Claudia Oshry

I would love to like see what I would get on the SATs now. What'd you get on the SAT? I don't really like want to talk about it.

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446.36 - 456.538 Jackie Oshry

Oh really? Yeah, because let me tell you just, okay, I'll tell you, but we grew up like. and a half family that all took the SATs. And so Olivia was very smart. What did Olivia get? She got in the 20s.

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457.018 - 463.945 Claudia Oshry

But Olivia, I think they were still grading on 1600, not to age her, but I feel like she was a 1600. And then for my year.

464.326 - 468.39 Jackie Oshry

That's fucking ancient. You were graded on this 1600 scale.

468.95 - 477.263 Claudia Oshry

What did you get? And then I think for my year, I guess it would have been out of 2400. 400, yeah, another 800 points for the new section.

Chapter 5: What can we expect from the Carter family's documentary?

477.523 - 480.544 Jackie Oshry

Yeah, there were three sections instead of two. So you got, I know you got in the 20s.

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481.104 - 481.464 Claudia Oshry

I did.

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481.764 - 497.106 Jackie Oshry

And I remember when we would convert Olivia's score, like, because we were all so competitive. Hers was in the 20s too. So I was like, okay, that's like the bar that I have to reach. And you know my ass got in the 18s. Like, I think it was 1850 or something. Like, it's an admirable score. It's not bad, but like, it's not good. I got 2040.

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497.146 - 512.169 Claudia Oshry

That's like really good. It was really good. And I feel like that doesn't surprise people who like know me now because I've really like worked on myself and like becoming a smart person. But I need the record to show like I was not a smart person in elementary and high school.

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512.469 - 527.621 Jackie Oshry

No, me neither. And I know that if I had like ever been taken for testing, they would have given me like a bunch of learning disabilities. Like I just know I was, cause it's not that I'm a dumb person. And I mean, I guess maybe I didn't have a learning disability. Like I actually just didn't give a shit. Like it's hard. Like I so didn't care.

527.641 - 531.904 Jackie Oshry

Like going to school was like about so many things and none of it was about like learning.

532.591 - 552.497 Claudia Oshry

And then I think in college, so my SAT scores put me like in a new, cause I did well, like I had new options open to me. And then if I like really beefed up everything else about my application, like that's how I got into Colgate plus applying early and showing that I was really Colgate strong. And don't forget about that, that essay. And my essay. Yeah, no, that's what I mean.

552.517 - 568.481 Claudia Oshry

Like every other, like my grades, like we're not that my GPA wasn't the greatest, like everything else we were like firing in all cylinders. And I gave a great interview and I had a great essay and I had a good SAT score. But then I think I actually did a little better in college, not all the time, but because I was learning about things I was interested in because I was a history major.

569.121 - 574.423 Claudia Oshry

And I just like, when I cared about the subject, I paid more attention. Here's what Olivia said.

Chapter 6: How did the SATs impact our education and future?

1711.373 - 1713.574 Jackie Oshry

Out will come baby, cradle and all.

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1713.614 - 1723.978 Claudia Oshry

No, but it's like meant to be something sweet. Like baby used to swing on a tree and then when they come out, it means they're too big. It like broke and now they're a big kid. Something like that. I guess it's just all about your perspective. I read a reinterpretation recently.

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1724.159 - 1748.356 Jackie Oshry

Right, right. And I have something to say about the Oscars. Okay. Because Bowen Yang and Rachel Sinat were announced as the people who were going to announce the nominees, and there was a lot of hoopla for it. And I have to speak a truth, and it's embarrassing, but I have to just be honest with myself. Okay. I don't know who Rachel Sinat is. And she's everywhere. How do you not know who that is?

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1748.837 - 1760.475 Jackie Oshry

How do you know who that is? No, you don't. Everybody knows Rachel Sanat and Ralph Fiennes. Everybody knows Rachel Sanat. Seriously, who is it? You know who I thought who she was for a while? Because you love that show, My Crazy Ex-Girlfriend.

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1761.175 - 1762.336 Claudia Oshry

Oh, yeah, Rachel.

1763.116 - 1764.096 Jackie Oshry

Yeah, she looks like that girl.

1764.776 - 1766.437 Claudia Oshry

That's funny. Rachel Sanat.

1766.457 - 1779.36 Jackie Oshry

She's an actress and comedian. She was in Bodies, Bodies, Bodies and Bottoms. She was in two A24 movies. That's why Gen Z loves her. I don't think we're expected to know this person. But announcing the Oscars...

1780.908 - 1802.033 Claudia Oshry

yeah is that like a huge shiva baby oh i would just i would love oh wait oh here do you want to watch shiva baby it's while at a jewish funeral service with her parents a college student has an awkward encounter with her sugar daddy and her ex-girlfriend i have to tell you something about this movie hold on let me just classic shiva stuff

Chapter 7: What are the pros and cons of the SAT vs. ACT?

1881.254 - 1892.098 Claudia Oshry

I agree. Are you ready for our next story? I am. Billy Ray Cyrus's family is genuinely worried after his disastrous inauguration performance, his son Trace says.

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1892.118 - 1893.218 Jackie Oshry

I would be worried if they weren't.

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1894.158 - 1905.886 Claudia Oshry

So his son Trace Cyrus put out a statement expressing concern. It's almost like an open letter. Yeah, expressing concern for Billy Ray. And I think that like doing it in the public was just meant to really like, shh. Shake Billy.

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1906.467 - 1912.254 Jackie Oshry

It's like what you do when someone's hit rock bottom, like intervention, you stop caring. Like you just have to get through to them.

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1912.751 - 1929.815 Claudia Oshry

Yeah. He said, since my earliest memories, all I can remember is being obsessed with you and thinking you were the coolest person ever. I wanted to be just like you. The day you adopted me was the happiest day of my life. Sadly, the man that I wanted so desperately to be just like, I barely recognize now. It seems this world has beaten you down and it's become obvious to everyone but you.

1930.555 - 1946.325 Claudia Oshry

Me and the girls have been genuinely worried about you for years, but you've pushed all of us away. Noah desperately has wanted you to be a part of her life and you haven't even been there for her That's your baby girl. She deserves better. Somehow, just like me, she still idolizes you, though. We are all hanging on to memories of the man we once knew and hoping for the day he returns.

1947.125 - 1960.139 Jackie Oshry

So, I mean, this is probably the biggest insight and window into what's been going on with the family, Cyrus, because we've known about this divide. We've known that the kids took Tish's side in the divorce, but why? And it really just seems like this...

1961.445 - 1981.42 Jackie Oshry

behavior we saw on stage the other night like is sort of how he's been for the last couple of years and it's like impossible to help someone who won't help themselves yeah this is so sad and obviously like i throw back to cherry cyrus metro street booming Yeah. When she does it like this, will you do it like that? That was like one of the greatest times in pop culture.

1981.441 - 1998.974 Jackie Oshry

Like Miley was coming up and then they were like, she has a brother. He's in this band. What was that band called? Metro Boom? It was called Metro. Hold on. Station. Thank you. I went to a concert. Wait. When I was in high school, they were the opener for like someone big. Who did they open for? I feel like Katy Perry or something. It was at Madison Square Garden.

Chapter 8: What was the SAT experience like for us?

3127.115 - 3147.436 Claudia Oshry

You're welcome, Jolie. Our next story, little Vanderpump rules, Nules. Nules. Nules. Allie Luber announces that she has split from James Kennedy after his domestic violence arrest. So she put out a statement clarifying their relationship status and the details of the incident. She said, thank you all for your support and kindness.

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3147.517 - 3165.591 Claudia Oshry

I am happy that prosecutors decided not to file against James as I never desired criminal charges. We had an argument outside of his home related to him drinking again. However, I was not physically hurt. I was shocked by the headlines and disheartened by how the event was portrayed. We are no longer together, but I'll always support James and wish him the best with his sobriety and healing.

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3165.971 - 3168.501 Claudia Oshry

Thank you for understanding. So there's a lot in there.

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3169.161 - 3187.451 Jackie Oshry

Yeah. So I guess what she's saying, it's like so hard with situations like this because it could very well be the truth, but also like someone who's suffering from DV like wouldn't say, you know, so you're like, no, it's fine, you know? Yeah, but they're not together. So if there was a time to speak her truth, I guess that would be it. Overall, like I'm glad they're not together.

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3187.751 - 3205.39 Jackie Oshry

Like whether the event was blown out of proportion or it wasn't, like James is somebody who needs to work on himself. And I don't think Allie, sometimes like a... a relationship can help somebody like that, like who needs to desperately change. I don't think that this was that type of relationship. So he's somebody who needs to be on his own, I think.

3205.41 - 3224.621 Claudia Oshry

I feel like it could have been, but I feel like for James being on his own, like is part of being at rock bottom. I feel like when he has someone to lean on, like he can just sort of put a bandaid on stuff. So if he's like really at the bottom and needs to get sober and like take a lot of time to like be sober, It's better if he has to, it's a journey you can only go alone.

3224.661 - 3242.735 Claudia Oshry

You can't do it for someone else. You can't do it because someone else is making you. So I think he has to do it on his own. But I'm glad to know that like the incident, that was pretty vague in the details when we reported on it. So it was hard to know the severity of it. Like I'm glad that she was fine. Like he did not physically hurt her and that they're no longer together.

3243.596 - 3262.429 Jackie Oshry

I hope that he leans on Lala, like in this phase, she's really somebody who has so, and maybe, you know, I don't think I'm wrong, but like, you know, it could just appear that way. Like who seems to have a really good grip on sober life and also like understands how necessary, how vital it is for her to like continue living this great life work wise, mom wise, like,

3262.97 - 3271.194 Jackie Oshry

Sobriety is such a key part of that. And I'm sure she struggles with it like anybody else does. But I think that she could be a great resource for him.

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