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Paul American Girls: Monday, May 5th, 2025

Mon, 05 May 2025

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Sovereignty Crowned Winner of the 2025 Kentucky Derby (PEOPLE) (25:35)David Beckham refused to celebrate birthday with son Brooklyn and Nicola Peltz amid bitter family feud (Page Six) (32:08)Diddy’s Sex Trafficking Trial Begins in NYC Today (New York Post) (41:04)Lady Gaga Breaks the Record for Highest-Attended Concert by a Female Artist in History (PEOPLE) (55:27)Connie Britton explains why she used ‘Queer Eye’ formula for her new show about single moms (Page Six) (1:02:43)The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob) Lean InThe Camper and The Counselor by Jackie OshryMerchThe Toast PatreonGirl With No Job by Claudia OshrySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Chapter 1: What is 'Paul American' and why is it popular?

91.522 - 104.972 Claudia Oshry

No, and definitely the window's getting shorter from like time I tell you about something to time that you do it because this was record time. Okay, but like who are you, Stalin? I have to do it the second you say? Like I did it. When you're watching a show and you're like raving about it and you're talking about it on this show, I feel the need to watch it.

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105.032 - 121.845 Claudia Oshry

If I'm going to watch it, I feel the need to watch it like right now so we can talk about it together. It's literally still airing. We are talking about it together. Were you getting season finale vibes from the last episode? No. Because there was no like next week on. By the way, we're talking about the greatest show on earth, Paul American.

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122.425 - 142.555 Jackie Oshry

This is the greatest show. And let me tell you, I've never seen a show like this in my life, like you guys. And when Jackie was saying it, I'm like, she's seriously so weird. And I'm not a Paul Brothers fan. I don't really, I obviously know them. I don't keep up with them. I'm not their intended audience for their content or their brands.

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143.355 - 163.021 Jackie Oshry

Let me tell you, the show has infiltrated every crevice of my brain. I thought it would be a good thing to watch with Ben because I know he finds them really interesting too, especially their business acumen. You cannot deny how really smart they are. They don't get enough credit for... They're both worth almost $200 million each. It's insane. So I knew Ben would like that.

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163.101 - 183.316 Jackie Oshry

And I just wasn't expecting to... learn so much about their family dynamic and them as people and like literally fall in love with Jake Paul. Like, I'm sorry, it's the Jake show. I have so many thoughts on every single character, but like they pale in comparison to my King Jake. Jake and Yuta, like I, if I don't get invited to their wedding, seriously kill me. I'm obsessed with Yuta.

183.977 - 204.974 Jackie Oshry

And I think that like, we all think we know Jake Paul, right? Like he's Jake Paul, like, yeah. the fact that he has fallen in love with this like deeply accomplished driven woman when like, you know, guys like that, all women are great. But yeah, like he has chosen a life with someone who needs to live in the other side of the world for 10 months out of the year. Like, I don't know.

205.114 - 221.007 Jackie Oshry

I think there's so much more to Jake Paul, especially he seems like a really healed person. Like he didn't mention therapy. And I know he does like ayahuasca and spiritual like Reiki and stuff. But he these are things I never would have thought or said. He's a deeply emotionally intelligent person.

221.267 - 239.179 Claudia Oshry

He did mention therapy, that he started therapy. Yeah, especially in the episode I watched last night, which feels like the season finale, episode six. He does ayahuasca with his dad. It's all about like how they grew up. It's like an emotional episode. And I really, what I appreciate about the show is that they're giving everything to the show. Like they're not skimping.

239.199 - 245.283 Claudia Oshry

They're not saying, you know, we're not going here. We're not, they're airing it all out because they want this show to like have the best chance of success.

Chapter 2: Why are the Paul brothers' dynamics intriguing?

388.121 - 399.748 Claudia Oshry

It's so funny because while I was watching, I didn't have such like a different opinion of Jake and Logan. I'm just like the Paul brothers. And I like, I thought about how they fight. And like, there's definitely like this under current that they try to stay above.

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399.768 - 401.009 Jackie Oshry

Do you think it's like a jealousy thing?

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401.349 - 414.334 Claudia Oshry

Yeah, I think it's I think it's what they call sibling rivalry, you know, and like how everybody always talks about sibling rivalry as if it's like a universal experience. And we always say, like, we just don't feel that way. But I think that that's like what that is.

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415.134 - 421.156 Jackie Oshry

But do you like I feel like how I was receiving it was that there's like an element of jealousy coming from Logan. Yeah.

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421.716 - 438.795 Claudia Oshry

But it's not because Jake is even that much more successful. He's not. Yeah, they both have very big things going on. Maybe Jake, I think I checked, maybe he has a couple hundred thousand more Instagram followers, but it's negligible, the difference in success.

439.376 - 441.198 Jackie Oshry

No, Logan's net worth is higher.

441.218 - 442.76 Claudia Oshry

What would he be jealous of?

443.697 - 461.27 Jackie Oshry

I don't know, like just that it's a younger brother. I don't know, but that's just sort of the vibe I was getting. I also found it very interesting that like Logan shows up 100% for Jake. Like every press conference, every weigh-in, every fight. And Jake was not there for any of his like big WWE stuff. Like the whole family, they go to everything, which I loved.

461.31 - 470.597 Jackie Oshry

It's like Nina goes to Jake's fights. Like everybody's so supportive. But Jake, and maybe it's because he was like training for a fight. You can't be like traveling or whatever. But he like doesn't show up for Logan. Yeah.

Chapter 3: How does the Kentucky Derby captivate audiences?

1159.361 - 1176.304 Jackie Oshry

It does mean nothing. You should stop being stupid. Oh my God. Wait, speaking of being stupid, I watched American Idol last night, which I enjoyed immensely. Like being a boomer means the world to me. And it's such a good show. I'm sorry. Like the quality of talent is like trash, but they brought in Miranda Lambert. She was like the guest mentor and she really like, she gave her all.

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1176.484 - 1198.623 Jackie Oshry

I appreciated that. You know, she wasn't just giving like, you should try this. Like she was crying. She was loving it. Was she like, ooh, ooh? No, she went like this, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So then when it was over, they just cut to whatever ABC was playing next, and they televised the Time 100 gala, which I thought was so strange. We talked about it last week. It's like this big list of,

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1199.063 - 1224.413 Jackie Oshry

and they had a gala for all the recipients and i guess like it was a ceremony which i would have assumed i thought it was more of a party but they filmed the entire thing for tv so it was like snoop dogg was the host there were performances they cut to demi more i literally turned it off after five minutes it was like so bad like i appreciate them like giving us a window into that fabulous evening but i don't know it felt like it's not cool anymore it's on abc wasn't it a week ago yeah so it wasn't live no no

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1225.52 - 1225.94 Claudia Oshry

That's weird.

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1226.0 - 1226.961 Jackie Oshry

It was so strange.

1227.541 - 1230.023 Claudia Oshry

Like, just give us the Goldbergs. Shut it.

1231.583 - 1237.567 Jackie Oshry

Just give us the Goldbergs. Correct. As simple as that. Or Desperate Housewives reruns. Like, we're good.

1238.067 - 1241.369 Claudia Oshry

Yeah, even though the show is ruined. Thanks. Thanks, fam.

1241.409 - 1243.09 Jackie Oshry

Yeah, I know. Thanks, Marsh.

Chapter 4: What is the latest on the Beckham-Peltz family feud?

1864.284 - 1870.16 Jackie Oshry

I honestly, if you really want to know, I think I value my career and I'm not getting involved. That's what I think.

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1870.94 - 1872.521 Claudia Oshry

That's what I thought that you would think.

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1872.981 - 1890.546 Jackie Oshry

Yeah, no, I love pop culture and The Toast is an amazing show and you guys should tune in every day. And anyone can tune in. That's what's so great. We're non-gender exclusive, you know, unlike sports. We don't have boundaries. You can join. Anyone can be a swirly. Anyone can be a swirly. Swirly is a non-binary term.

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1891.567 - 1897.014 Claudia Oshry

That's true, but it does derive from girly swirly.

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1897.395 - 1904.364 Jackie Oshry

It definitely has feminine origins. However, when applied to modern times, anyone can be a swirly, and I really mean that.

1904.684 - 1905.846 Claudia Oshry

That's very good, Claudia.

1906.598 - 1906.838 Jackie Oshry

Thanks.

1906.898 - 1908.78 Claudia Oshry

I think you've successfully walked the line.

1909.36 - 1911.322 Jackie Oshry

I media trained my way right out of that question.

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