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The Toast

Matt, Rachael and The Juror: Thursday, January 16th 2025

Thu, 16 Jan 2025

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'Bachelor' stars Matt James and Rachael Kirkconnell break up after 4 years together (Page Six) (23:56)Wendy Williams insists she's not 'cognitively impaired,' feles like she's 'in prison' in bombshell 'Breakfast Club' interview (Page Six) (32:08)Leighton Meester fans hype up actress' 'underappreciated' pop music to help her rebuild home after LA fires (Page Six) (38:07)Severance Cast Draws Huge Crowd in Grand Central Station to Promote Season 2 (PEOPLE) (47:25)Jen Shah's prison sentence reduced again (Page Six) (51:22)The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob) Lean InThe Camper and The Counselor by Jackie OshryMerchThe Toast PatreonGirl With No Job by Claudia OshrySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Chapter 1: What happened between Matt James and Rachael Kirkconnell?

1689.514 - 1695.0 Claudia Oshry

I like when someone shakes it up a little bit, you know, it's not what's expected It's not a joint statement. Please respect our privacy.

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1695.04 - 1714.051 Jackie Oshry

It's a public prayer Just remind me every 20 minutes to like check my phone to see if like anything happened cuz I'm just I'm I'm not convinced okay, so Do you think they're still together? Well, so a lot of people who are like me, and the thing is, to be clear, I'm not in denial. Like, oh, my faves broke up. I'm not in denial. You're confused. I am.

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1714.091 - 1724.733 Jackie Oshry

And so I think a lot of people are coming up with theories like I am. And a lot of people think that like, this is the first clue in many that they're actually engaged. The relationship has ended as boyfriend and girlfriend.

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1725.394 - 1736.606 Claudia Oshry

Give Rachel and I strength to mend our broken hearts. Give us a piece about this decision to end our relationship. That transcends worldly understanding. They have ended their relationship as long as it's not a hacker.

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1736.626 - 1757.143 Jackie Oshry

Maybe why I find this shocking, excuse me, hold on. Bless you. Maybe why I find this shocking is because I've never known these two to be particularly religious. Like if Hannah Brown broke up with someone and left this as her caption, I'd be like, well, with the good Lord unto you. Like I don't, and I'm sure everybody's allowed to like be religious and like keep it to themselves.

1757.263 - 1767.829 Jackie Oshry

I just don't know this about them as like a, So it just felt so out of left field too. And I could see like a hacker like LARPing as an American. I don't know. I just, I find it crazy.

1767.869 - 1784.294 Claudia Oshry

I don't know. I just don't think a hacker is this in the weeds and that they've hacked into this big account and this is what they're gonna do. So I think it, their social media, even cadence of posting and things that it's not really like traditional, like here's every thought and feeling.

1784.314 - 1784.614 Jackie Oshry

It's not.

1784.634 - 1792.341 Claudia Oshry

It's much more curated. Yep. So I think this was like curated and I think they're broken up. And that's that on that. I'm in shock.

Chapter 2: What are Wendy Williams' claims about her current situation?

2357.242 - 2375.582 Jackie Oshry

Yeah, because that is a challenge I could definitely be a part of. But I think every now and then we're reminded of the great work she did in the music industry. And so if this is just another reminder for a young generation to be influenced by her music and her work, then I'm not upset about it. I just want to say I don't think it's the same situation as Heidi and Spencer.

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2376.002 - 2392.054 Claudia Oshry

Yeah, also Good Girls Go Bad. And she did have a debut album, Heartstrings, with Universal Republic. No, no, that was independently released. Oh, so that's even more. Oh, so we should be streaming her independent music. But previously she was with Universal Republic with Your Love's Your Drug.

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2392.634 - 2407.975 Jackie Oshry

That was really crazy how her decision after Gossip Girl was to become a pop star, which was a brilliant decision. And I don't think any of the other girls had the same goals. So it wasn't competitive at all. And how she really made an impact, even at the time, like she was popping off. It's not like now we look back and be like, no.

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2408.315 - 2414.342 Jackie Oshry

And then she just sort of decided she didn't want to do it anymore. Yeah. Who would give up a career like that? She was like giving them bitches a run for their money.

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2414.362 - 2432.039 Claudia Oshry

No, I feel like she's a real one. Like she really keeps to herself. I think she just like lives her life as in a happy marriage. Works. Now, yes, she's very settled. Works to work. But maybe all of the glitz and glam in the industry like wasn't for her. And she's also in that show Parenthood. Like don't, let's not forget. Which is a big show. One of my.

2432.239 - 2449.246 Jackie Oshry

favorite Leighton Meester moments is like actually somewhat recently after her and Seth Cohen had been married for a while and they don't do like a lot of press together. And I think one of the first times they did an interview together, like entertainment tonight, the interview was like, do you guys understand like the impact of Leighton Meester, Blair Waldorf marrying Seth Cohen?

2449.266 - 2459.671 Jackie Oshry

And they were like, no, like they literally don't give a fuck. And then by the way, Jackie, they gave the fans nothing. They were like, we like, we get it. Like we were both on shows, but like,

2460.646 - 2463.147 Claudia Oshry

They are so wrong for that. I just want to say.

2463.227 - 2480.315 Jackie Oshry

You have to watch the interview. It's like this girl. And it was a good question. I can't blame the journalist. She was like, do you get it? Like what it means to so many people. And she was like, no. She was like, what do you mean we're married? And we act. She was just very literal about it.

Chapter 3: What insights do fans have on Leighton Meester's music?

2963.262 - 2968.287 Claudia Oshry

Now, maybe I would have watched it if you said something better about it, but no, I don't want to feel those feelings you just described. So I'll sit this one out.

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2968.507 - 2972.391 Jackie Oshry

Like maybe it was just me. Cause I know people love it, but like you guys, I was seriously not okay.

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2973.22 - 2977.241 Claudia Oshry

Was like anything disturbing happening or it's just like the fast paced nature was like just giving you anxiety.

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2977.921 - 2985.043 Jackie Oshry

The fast, the whole thing was giving me anxiety. And then I remember at the very end of the first episode, I don't want to say, hold on. Let me just triple check.

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2987.624 - 2997.387 Claudia Oshry

Episode one, season one ending. Like I'm pretty sure something happened at the very end of the first episode. That was disturbing. Really gave me a pit. Yeah.

3010.882 - 3015.105 Jackie Oshry

Okay, maybe not. I don't remember. I just remember like really having like a not good time while watching it.

3015.805 - 3025.912 Claudia Oshry

Understood. Well, also Ben Stiller is like the director of this. So he was like there like filming videos. In Grand Central, like having the best time. Yeah, and I'm happy for Team Severance.

3026.773 - 3046.608 Jackie Oshry

Yeah, I just feel like it's a particularly unglamorous movie. task to like stand in Grand Central. And these are like celebrities who like seriously haven't been on a train and they haven't been on the train station, like at the subway. Like I just imagine like when they got booked for this, they were like, oh. No, they haven't worked this hard in a while. Yeah, like, cause it's very physical too.

3046.668 - 3058.694 Jackie Oshry

Like they had to be walking around and being like, whoa, look at this file. Like I imagine while we're all enjoying it and like praising its marketing, the actual people doing it were like, this fucking blows. Yeah, but they did it.

Chapter 4: What was the Severance cast's recent promotion?

3456.592 - 3471.084 Jackie Oshry

And there's no continuity. And that's what I found frustrating. It's like, well, literally three minutes ago, you were saying the nastiest things, but now you're crying that this is your best friend. That's confusing. Yeah. I like when I can see clear alliances and who's actually friends. Yeah. Cause this is always supposed to be about like a group of women who are friends.

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3471.124 - 3474.925 Jackie Oshry

And now we've gotten to a point where it's such a job that like, dude, they're all virtual strangers until they meet.

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3475.186 - 3493.833 Claudia Oshry

Yeah. And when they're not filming, they don't hang. It hits harder when it's like friendships and there's history, even if the drama isn't good. That's like Beverly Hills. It's just two friends who are kind of like, like ships passing right now. And like, they're missing each other, but because the friendship like runs so deep, it's what makes it interesting.

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3494.433 - 3499.701 Jackie Oshry

Yeah. Yeah. Now would be the time where for you to share whatever thing you had to say about the ending of juror number two.

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3499.741 - 3518.436 Claudia Oshry

Oh my God. So no, not the ending necessarily, but just the whole movie. Like I had such a pit for this guy. Like, could there be a worse feeling in the world than like having killed someone and like facing like accidentally, like you didn't do it on purpose. You weren't drinking. You like realize that you've killed someone. Like you have to go to jail. Like,

3519.54 - 3536.369 Jackie Oshry

Now I thought that at the end, when they were showing us like flashback scenes, I thought they were gonna make it so that he actually like wasn't guilty. No, wasn't guilty. Cause they were like, they're showing him driving and the other, the boyfriend driving, then the boyfriend turns around. And I was like, wait, that would've been actually really good if they like fucked with us.

3536.509 - 3543.913 Jackie Oshry

And then he's, but he still thinks that he did it. And he looks so guilty that he ends up going to prison for a crime he didn't commit. Like I thought that would've been like a little bit more interesting.

3544.113 - 3563.841 Claudia Oshry

Yeah, or it's like maybe someone hit her first and then he did hit a deer and it just happened to be like right after. But that would have let us off the hook too much. Like morally, we wouldn't have to like deal with this really hard question of like, does this person who was a drug dealer, who has done bad, like he is a criminal who's going to jail for something that he didn't do.

3564.382 - 3572.225 Claudia Oshry

Does Nicholas Holt deserve to go to jail when he has a baby at home and he's an otherwise good person? Like an upstanding citizen.

Chapter 5: How has Jen Shah's prison sentence changed?

3797.964 - 3801.806 Claudia Oshry

And the boyfriend, what's he in? He looks familiar looking.

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3801.826 - 3806.208 Jackie Oshry

I never saw him before. He looks like he was from an episode of SVU. Like a character actor.

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3806.756 - 3810.677 Claudia Oshry

Oh, no, I've seen him in something. Let me find out what, and then we can.

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3811.257 - 3816.638 Claudia Oshry

And to be fair, there's no update on Matt James. So just like letting everyone know.

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3816.759 - 3823.14 Claudia Oshry

Hillbilly Elegy. Yeah, he played JD Vance in Hillbilly Elegy. What? Yeah. Older JD.

3823.3 - 3824.64 Claudia Oshry

That's so funny.

3824.821 - 3834.543 Jackie Oshry

Didn't you see that? I did see that movie, but I, by the way, nothing new for Matt James. No, but I did not recognize him in the slightest.

3835.194 - 3842.119 Claudia Oshry

I recognized him and that is so funny. And then also he was in one of my favorite movies, Barely Lethal, starring Haley Seinfeld and Dove Cameron.

3842.139 - 3843.059 Jackie Oshry

Of course, of course.

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