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Chapter 1: Why is Jackie Oshry podcasting while sick?
Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Friday, a cause to celebrate, except for the fact that the virus I've been meaning, literally meaning to throw hands with, has now infiltrated my fucking sister. And not only has it infiltrated my fucking sister, it's infiltrated my sister's fucking ability to do her job. So it's infiltrated The Toast. Heretofore, it has infiltrated me.
And today's episode, Jackie is such a trooper, still showing up for work. It is audio only. She looks so cute in her pajamas. But hey, Jax, how you doing?
Hey turd, I've been better. I think this is the sickest I've ever podcast. We'll see how it goes. I hope I can speak without choking and I hope that I can have a personality. These are like the first words I'm uttering today.
I don't want you to worry about the speaking.
This is your dream come true.
I've got it down. And actually there was so much going on in the world last night, like with NFL honors and then Craig on Watch What Happens Live. Like I have a lot to say. So I don't want you to worry. I don't want, I want you to speak of course when you feel comfortable, but I just want you to know, like, I got you.
Thank you so much. I know I watched Southern Charm last night and Craig was on Watch What Happens Live. I watched all of it and to not come on and discuss when we've been waiting for these sorts of answers. He was being so open.
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Chapter 2: What did Craig Conover reveal on Watch What Happens Live?
Well, I didn't really put together that this was like his first real sit down interview and that it was going to be Watch What Happens Live, not a one-on-one. I'm sorry. Like if there ever was a time for a person to have a one-on-one, it was Craig on Watch What Happens Live because I actually felt bad for the other girl. I don't even know who she is. Is she from Southern Charm?
Maddie from Southern Hospitality, which is Leva's spinoff show. And considering everyone was there for Craig, I actually thought she did really well and was a good advertisement for Southern Hospitality, which I don't watch and I won't watch, but I'm closer to watching it than ever before.
Yeah. And like her having the chair next to Andy, like the whole thing was a little weird. Do you agree?
I just feel like that was respect for women.
I thought it was respect for the fact that if she wasn't in the first chair, she would not have been a part of the episode because it was the Craig show.
I think that they have this unwritten rule when it's a man and a woman that the woman would sit in that chair.
Oh, that's really interesting. I think it's more like there's so many different factors. And for this particular girl, like usually if it's like two celebrities or Bravo celebrities of equal value, like the closer to Andy is like the person who's a little bit more famous.
But with Craig, I actually really feel like if they were gonna have a second person there, especially somebody who's like on a new show, she really would have gotten left behind the whole episode if she was on the second chair, it just would have been like Andy. And so I think for the sake of literally keeping her involved in the conversation, she had to be in the middle.
Yeah, but shockingly, Andy is into Southern hospitality. When they were talking about her show, And I don't know any of these people and I don't know the storyline. I haven't had that experience in so long that they were literally speaking Chinese. I don't know anyone. It's not like even a Housewives that I've fallen off with. I see it on social media. I just was watching two different shows.
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Chapter 3: How did Craig and Paige's relationship unfold on Southern Charm?
I feel like he wasn't going to like flop at this moment because so many times like there's like a big thing happening on Watch Up and Simon. And he doesn't understand like the cultural impact because it's like so chronically online. But I think he really understood and he had good questions and I think he did a very good job.
I also feel like Andy feels like Paige and Craig owe him and the network the truth and that nothing is off limits because they are both network stars. They have benefited so much from their relationship and the network, even at the end of Southern charm, which I'll recap at the end of the show.
Cause I know not everyone watches, but they did a preview for the rest of the season and they film the breakup post breakup. It looks like, because like everyone's in their winter sweaters. Meanwhile, this is happening in spring. So like everyone's in winter Craig and Austin and Shep are like sitting down. He's saying how he bought a ring and he's devastated.
So like they picked cameras back up, which on the one hand is kind of invasive, but on the other hand, like that's what these two signed up for.
Yeah. Yeah. Yikes. Okay. So we'll get into that. That's obviously a whole story. And it was the NFL honors last night. So just like lots to discuss. So I want you to just feel comfortable kind of taking a backseat. I know you don't usually do that. So unlike me. I just, I want you to know, like, it's okay to not be okay.
Yeah. I feel a little better. Just talking. My head feels like a million pounds. I got fever in the night. Like yesterday I didn't have a fever. I just had like body aches and chills. And I thought that that would be the worst of it. But no, today is far worse. And it's the flu because that's what's been going around. So something if I had to put a label on it.
We're so not into labels here at The Toast. Something about having a fever like really makes you feel like a kid. Like what grown adult gets a fever?
No, I know. And I'm like laying in bed and I'm like after taking care of like Harry and Charlie all week, I was like, who's going to take care of me? Like who's going to rub my head? It's insane.
That's actually a really fucking depressing moment in your life where you realize the person taking care of you, because I feel like I'm at the stage where if I'm sick, Ben's gonna take care of me, but once we, God willing, have children, that's no longer, the hierarchy has shifted.
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Chapter 4: What happened during the Paige and Craig breakup?
Yeah, not to be annoying. We knew the day she found out. Of course. I am so happy. And I've been wanting to share this part of my, not to make everything about me. I've been wanting to share this part of my TTC journey with the toasters that I couldn't because I didn't want to drag Shannon into it. But Shannon and I were both trying at the same time.
And literally the month I got pregnant, I got pregnant because of Shannon. I feel like I've told the story that I was using those strips, pre-mom strips. I was doing them wrong for literally three months. And I was talking to Shannon about it because we were just swapping stories about how annoying it was to pee on this little thing in the middle of a restaurant.
And she was like, and then you put it in the app and finally it tells you. I'm like, wait. I hadn't even heard. I was like, what? She's like, yeah, that's how you know which is really your peak. Like which line is truly darker. The app, like you scan it. Oh my God, she saved me so much time. That was the month I got pregnant. Like seriously, streamlined the whole thing for me.
So you were doing it wrong in the sense of not having, not using the app. Just in case anyone's doing it wrong out there.
Yeah, so I was basically just like doing the strips and you can see the lines, but it's hard to know like was yesterday's line darker or like a little bit darker, which day was like truly the peak. And if you don't scan it, if you scan it on the app, they'll tell you like the exact percentage that you're peaking and if it was more or less than the day before.
So it was just, and it's also just an organized way to keep a picture of your strips because like, if you do it in your photo albums, like the lighting could be different and it could look weird. So she totally like got me preg and- You got pregnant by Shannon. I got pregnant by Shannon Ford.
And I've been wanting to share that and give her like so much credit, but obviously I don't wanna like blow up her spot while she was working through her things. So, so happy by the everyone, like TNN is so fertile right now. The good guys. TNN supports women. TNN supports mothers in the workplace.
And they support families and the family.
Yes, it's just kind of like a family channel. ABC, TNN family. We've got the good guys on both sides. We've got probably a podcast. The Redheads just popped out a baby. True. We're seriously just like, we're repopulating the earth. Born Elizabeth, gone but not forgotten. Lauren Elizabeth is a core member of TNN. She was the first show we ever launched. She's a founding member.
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Chapter 5: How is the Bravo community reacting to Craig and Paige's breakup?
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