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The Telepathy Tapes

BONUS - LIVE TALK TRACKS EPISODE - Love Beyond Words

Sun, 13 Apr 2025

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In this episode of The Talk Tracks, we come to you live from South by Southwest for a heartfelt roundtable presented by Bumble and hosted by Ky Dickens, exploring how love, dating, and connection unfold in a neurodiverse world. Joined by Bumble founder Whitney Wolfe Herd, artist and author Jezz Chung, and parent advocate Libby Ingram, the panel unpacks how empathy and radical self-love can shape relationships that transcend language—and what it means to reimagine dating platforms for those with different ways of connecting. This episode is a tender reminder that love isn’t something we say—it’s something we feel, live, and share. To listen to more of Somebody Someone, their music is available on all music platforms. Join The Telepathy Tapes Backstage Pass to get ad-free episodes, never-before-heard interviews, behind-the-scenes documentary footage, and access to our private Discord community. This is your invitation to come closer. To help shape what’s next. To be more than a listener… to be a co-creator of this paradigm shift. So if you’ve felt moved, if you’ve felt seen, if you’ve felt the call—subscribe today and join us: thetelepathytapes.supercast.com. Thank you to our wonderful sponsors for sponsoring this episode. Get 15% off OneSkin with the code TAPES at https://www.oneskin.co/ #oneskinpod Visit Graza.co and use TAPES to get 10% off of the TRIO. Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to liquidiv.com and use code TAPES at checkout. Visit AncientNutrition.com/TELEPATHY to get 25% off your first order. Visit Quince.com/tapes for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: Who are the panelists discussing love in a neurodiverse world?

0.149 - 22.452 Kai Dickens

Hi, everyone. I'm Kai Dickens, and welcome to a very special episode of The Talk Trax. Today, we're thrilled to share our first ever live recording, captured at South by Southwest in the heart of Austin, Texas. In honor of Autism Awareness Month, we're releasing this conversation now because it touches on something vital, how we navigate love, dating, and consent in a neurodiverse world.

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Our panel includes some truly remarkable voices, including one of the beloved parents from Season 1 of The Telepathy Tapes. So without further ado, here's our live recording from the stunning gardens at the Hotel St. Cecilia, Austin. Looking for a deeper, more meaningful way to connect?

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Bumble is committed to fostering healthy and equitable relationships for everyone, including the neurodivergent community. Find authentic connection, shared experiences, and love beyond words. Download Bumble today. Well, I think we can all agree that love is something we all seek, but the way we express it and experience it and communicate it is as diverse as our own neural wiring.

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So today on the talk tracks live from South by Southwest in Austin, we're diving into love and connection in a neurodiverse world, breaking down misconceptions and celebrating the many ways people build meaningful and deep relationships. I am joined by three incredible guests, truly remarkable people.

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So first, Whitney Wolfe Hurd, the founder of Bumble, who changed the game from modern dating by making connection intentional and empowering. Jez Chung, a multidisciplinary artist whose work explores identity, neurodivergence, and connection through creative expression.

110.683 - 133.418 Kai Dickens

And my dear friend, Libby Ingram, whose non-speaking son, John Paul, as featured on the telepathy tapes, captured our hearts with his relationship with his girlfriend, Lily, which also included a bit of telepathy. So we're going to talk about love and connection and ways technology and understanding and empathy are shaping the future of relationships for everyone.

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So first, you know, I'm going to give you guys all a question, but I think it was we kind of set the tone for the night. The one thing I want everyone to remember is that, you know, love isn't ever fitting into a mold. It's just not. It's about finding the person who sees you and understands you and celebrates you exactly as you are. So let's get into it. This talk tracks live from Austin, Texas.

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So first, I want to ask you all the same question. Love looks different for everyone. I'd love to know what love and connection mean to each of you.

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So why don't we start with you, Libby?

Chapter 2: What does love and connection mean to each panelist?

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Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, to wrap it up, I think it's important to just remember that love isn't following a script, right? It's writing your own. And you have to have the courage to show up as your authentic self to do that. Otherwise, no one's going to write your script for you. What is it? It's a blank page. So we have to show up. And I think about this all the time.

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At one point when we were going through, how do you test telepathy? How do you test this? And a non-speaker said, why do you need instruments to test this when you're not looking for instruments to test love, which is the greatest superpower? It causes parents to jump into choppy waters to save a child, people to lift a car up when they can't when someone's pinned underneath it.

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I mean, love causes us to do the most remarkable things. It is our greatest superpower. So let's just remember that, that we create magic in the world every day with just basic love. Thank you so much for being here, all. Thank you. To close out this special episode, we're honored to feature Somebody Someone, who performed live music at this recording.

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Their song Better, written three years ago during a deeply personal chapter of coming out as both neurodivergent and non-binary, has become an anthem for self-acceptance in a world that doesn't always embrace difference.

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Make me a memory Put me away, I'll let you down easy. And then I will fade into the ether to the unknown. Make me a ghost, just someone you knew. If you're looking for her, she's not looking for you. That girl is gone, now there's somebody new. When it's all said and done, I feel better, better, better, better off without your love. Yeah, I call myself someone.

3277.293 - 3329.888 Somebody Someone

I'll write a postcard from a far away place I'll write wish you weren't here with a smile on my face Now that I chose me there's no looking back And if I did I just might turn to stone At least that's how I feel And you won't leave me alone And I'm an unfeeling And under attack But I feel better Better, better Better off without your love When it's all said and done I feel better

3342.301 - 3370.315 Somebody Someone

Yeah, I call myself someone. Better, better, better, better, better. Yeah, I call myself someone. Thank you.

3371.229 - 3389.602 Kai Dickens

You can find Somebody Someone and follow their journey on social media and streaming platforms at Somebody Someone Music. That's it for this episode of The Talk Tracks, but new episodes will now be released every other Sunday, so stay tuned as we work to unravel all the threads, even the veiled ones, that knit together our reality.

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Please remember to stay kind, stay curious, and that being a true skeptic requires an open mind. Thank you to my amazing collaborators. Original music was created by Elizabeth P.W. Original logo and cover art by Ben Kendor Design. The audio mix and finishing by Sarah Ma. Our amazing podcast coordinator, Jill Pichesnik. The telepathy tapes coordinator in my right hand, Catherine Ellis.

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