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The Rachel Maddow Show

'Who's that good for?': Maddow connects the dots on Donald Trump's behavior toward Russia

Sat, 1 Mar 2025

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Rachel Maddow looks at a string of peculiar behavior by Donald Trump and Trump administration policies that don't seem to have the welfare of the United States as their goal, and wonders who those policies are good for if they aren't good for the U.S.

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Chapter 1: Why is Donald Trump's behavior toward Russia controversial?

1.052 - 21.025 Rachel Maddow

Thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. Senator Cory Booker is here with us tonight live. I'm really looking forward to speaking with him. Former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul is here with us live. We've got eyes on potentially some developing court proceedings live tonight. It's just a really busy Friday night. There's a lot to get to. I am really glad you are here.

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21.185 - 45.204 Rachel Maddow

And I will be honest, I'm feeling a little fired up tonight. What's that phrase? I'm feeling... I feel like I'm loaded for bear, right? So I'm just going to do this. I don't care. I don't care. Let's just do it. Let's just start right in with something that Republicans really, really, really do not want to talk about.

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46.184 - 66.231 Rachel Maddow

And part of the way you can tell they don't want to talk about it is because when they get asked about it, they turn pink, they stammer, they stomp their feet and put the microphone down. They do not want to talk about this at all. Republican Congressman Scott Fitzgerald of Wisconsin, for example, does not want to talk about this at all.

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72.815 - 78.879 Unidentified Speaker 1

No, no, I don't. No, I was, like I said, I voted for the first tranche. No, Ukraine didn't start the war. Why?

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90.612 - 95.075 Unidentified Speaker 2

You know, I'm not... Have you expressed your opinion to Trump?

96.938 - 101.683 Unidentified Speaker 1

Donald Trump, no.

102.303 - 121.801 Unidentified Speaker 2

I don't think that the president's goals are not what everybody wants, which is to end the war, right? End the war. So if you don't want to end the war, then you're in a different position. You've got to have some type of negotiated end to this. He's certainly pushing hard.

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for that to happen.

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I can't speak over everybody. And if Zelensky, Zelensky needs to be in the room. He absolutely needs to be. I don't disagree with the idea that he needs to be, he's probably part of the solution, right?

Chapter 2: What are Republicans' reactions to questions about Ukraine?

1143.174 - 1174.194 Rachel Maddow

Now we've got pro-Trump Republican senators saying, yeah, not just Ukraine won't be allowed in NATO, we ought to get out of NATO too, which of course would collapse NATO. Who would that most benefit? For whom would that be really, really good news? Donald Trump says, let's let Russia back into the G7. Donald Trump is reportedly preparing right now for his own big in-person summit. Vladimir Putin.

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1175.475 - 1198.568 Rachel Maddow

Donald Trump already started high-level meetings between the Russian and U.S. governments, including an inexplicable three-and-a-half-hour meeting specifically between the president's real estate friend and Vladimir Putin himself. Steve Witkoff came back from that meeting and how'd that go? Went pretty well for someone.

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Headline, parroting Putin and Trump, Witkoff says Russia was provoked into invading Ukraine. Headline, Trump envoy can't name a single concession Russia will make in peace deal. What does it seem like is going on here? Imagine if a foreign adversary, imagine if the Putin government somehow could just do a thought experiment.

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1227.154 - 1247.946 Rachel Maddow

Imagine they could somehow exert control or influence over the government of the United States. What do you think the Putin government would have the U.S. government do if he could control it? What kind of headlines would you expect to see about the operations of our government under that kind of a scenario?

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1250.097 - 1274.53 Rachel Maddow

And what would you expect the news out of the Oval Office and the White House to look like on a day like today? At the start of this made-for-TV debacle at the White House today, where the President and Vice President J.D. Vance screamed at our ally Vladimir Zelensky and berated him with Russian government talking points,

1277.09 - 1295.576 Rachel Maddow

When this happened today in Washington, there's a couple things that stuck out to me. First of all, at the very start of this photo op, they had all the press in the room, Trump was asked right at the outset when he last spoke with Vladimir Putin. He said, quote, a couple of days ago, which was news because the U.S.

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government had said nothing about Donald Trump speaking with Vladimir Putin a couple of days ago. So that's new. He used to say, I'm not allowed to talk about that. Now he's admitting that he talks to Putin all the time, even when the U.S. government doesn't release any information about those calls like they do with all other foreign leaders.

1315.186 - 1329.518 Rachel Maddow

Second was the truly bizarre revelation that Russian state-controlled media, for some reason, was in the Oval Office today when this scene happened with Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

1330.796 - 1357.043 Rachel Maddow

Now, to be clear, the Trump White House will not allow the Associated Press or Reuters into the Oval Office to cover White House events anymore, but somehow TASS Media, Kremlin-controlled Russian state media, somehow made their way into the Oval Office for this berating of the Ukrainian president today, and Russian state media was in the Oval Office somehow live-streaming from the event.

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