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The Prosecutors

298. WM3 - A Little Less Conversation

Tue, 01 Apr 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?

68.257 - 132.838 Brett

And we are The Prosecutors. Today on The Prosecutors. I hope you're ready. It's what you've asked for more than anything else. Hello, everybody, and welcome to this episode of The Prosecutors. I'm Brett, and I'm joined as... Hey, hey. That's... You're already messing up. You're already messing up. So, you know, we gotta... Why did I just do that?

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132.858 - 139.281 Alice

This is so important. I don't know why you did it. It's not like we haven't done... How many episodes do we have? Hundreds of times to sign in.

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139.301 - 139.721 Guest Speaker

So many.

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140.222 - 148.967 Alice

I'm sorry. This is not bode well. It doesn't bode well. Do you see how nervous I am? I do. I'm so sorry. Okay, let's start. Let's start again. This cannot be the way we started. Sorry.

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149.207 - 151.148 Brett

But just go ahead and leave that in, Jason. People will enjoy that.

151.168 - 155.43 Alice

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You can laugh about how terrible I am. We'll save you a blooper.

155.971 - 157.471 Brett

Here we go. Here we go. Okay, sorry.

157.572 - 159.653 Alice

I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Okay, I'm ready.

162.452 - 176.302 Brett

Hello everybody and welcome to this episode of The Prosecutors. I'm Brett. And I'm joined, as always, by my easily distracted co-host, Alice. Hello, Alice.

Chapter 2: Why is this case significant to the hosts?

236.788 - 238.229 Brett

I dream about you too, Alice.

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239.069 - 256.041 Alice

Yes. Is that what you meant? All those rumors. You're feeding all those rumors. No, that's not what I meant whatsoever. But because I want to get to the case, we have to do justice to this case. We can't go too fast. But at the same time, we kind of have to be fast because we don't have forever to do this case.

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256.181 - 275.912 Brett

You know, we got all these. Yeah, that's true. We don't have forever. You know, if you're just joining us for this case, then I mean, kind of late to the game. I mean, I'm. I'm just saying. We have a great back catalog, though. We do. So many good episodes. Before we get started, here's the thing.

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275.952 - 292.857 Brett

If you're just joining us, I mean, one of the things that sort of defines Alice and I and how we do these cases, we tend to maybe occasionally, sometimes, go down, I don't know, what would you call it?

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293.803 - 297.052 Alice

I would call it rabbit trails. Rabbit trails. What would you call it?

297.473 - 302.748 Brett

I would call it rabbit trails as well. Who calls it rabbit holes? I don't know. Do rabbits even live in holes?

303.048 - 320.782 Alice

I don't know if they live in holes because so you guys definitely make trails. I used to live in Georgia. And when I grew up, I lived in Georgia. This actually goes very well into this case and played outside all the time. And there were rabbits and bunnies that lived in my backyard, like plentiful. Because if you know about the bunnies, they really know how to procreate.

320.822 - 324.125 Brett

If you don't start out with a lot of bunnies, you end up with a lot of bunnies.

324.385 - 327.127 Alice

You end up with a lot of bunnies. And you nearly had bunnies.

Chapter 3: How do personal anecdotes enhance the podcast?

366.697 - 368.859 Brett

Groundhog? I was just about to talk about the groundhog.

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368.879 - 369.479 Alice

Oh, you were.

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369.56 - 382.531 Brett

We are so on the same page. So every year, I watch Groundhog Day. It's like a thing I do. Every February 2nd. Great movie you haven't seen. Have you seen it with Bill Murray?

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382.891 - 388.176 Alice

Oh, absolutely. Of course you have. I've watched it many times. Have you seen it? I feel like we've had this conversation before. Have we? Yeah.

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388.576 - 392.037 Brett

It's a great movie. You know, the same thing happens over and over and over again.

392.057 - 392.717 Alice

That was the joke.

393.057 - 413.924 Brett

That was the joke. And you know what I always wondered? And I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this. Maybe we discuss this. I don't know. It's like Groundhog Day. So Groundhog Day now, if you say it's like Groundhog Day, people know that that means it's like the same day is happening over again. I assume that comes from the movie, right? Yeah.

414.645 - 425.496 Alice

I assume so because I'm pretty sure it didn't all of a sudden change sometime in the 80s or 90s where before we said, oh, it's like Groundhog Day. We're like, yeah, when the gopher comes out and it's almost spring.

425.916 - 450.119 Brett

Yeah, but I just want to make sure. Because it's possible that people always use that idiom. It's like Groundhog Day to mean a day that happens every year, right? And that the movie maker was like, what if it really was like Groundhog Day and every day was the same day? And I just don't know if it started that way with the idiom or if the idiom comes from the movie.

Chapter 4: What are some cultural idioms and their origins?

523.164 - 526.267 Brett

There you go. It probably would not be as fun as Groundhog Day.

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527.125 - 530.268 Alice

How did I get started on Groundhog Day? Rabbit trails. Rabbit trails. Go for it.

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530.288 - 534.03 Brett

Oh, rabbit trails and holes. Yeah, so... Was that a rabbit trail that we just went down?

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534.531 - 553.986 Alice

It was. I actually think... I understand that people say rabbit holes, but I literally remember seeing these indentations into the grass. You could look out the backyard because when it came springtime, new rabbit trails would be formed because they went away and hibernated or whatever during the winter and the grass dies away, so the rabbit trails...

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554.446 - 557.048 Brett

We're going to talk about trails through the forest in this case.

557.568 - 565.873 Alice

That's right. Which might have been made by rabbits. And being outside. Yeah. Well, definitely by rabbits, I think. I mean, that's kind of obvious. Or turtles. Who knows?

566.313 - 570.336 Brett

Do turtles make trails? Because turtles and rabbits often go together. I don't know why.

570.736 - 578.561 Alice

Turtles don't make trails because a lot of them swim. You know, turtles have always really baffled me because, you know, they're amphibious. So they're on the land.

578.581 - 580.182 Brett

I know exactly where you're going with this.

Chapter 5: How does the podcast engage with audience feedback?

664.902 - 672.866 Alice

I think those are different. I know they exist. Even though they look a lot the same, they're probably even in the same family. I think they're very different, but I actually have no idea. But you're right.

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672.886 - 674.606 Brett

So you don't think they're related. They're just like.

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674.847 - 687.954 Alice

No, no, they are related, but I think that those have gills. like on do they have gills i think they have gills where's the turtles i'm thinking of it's like they always stick their nose out you know they stick their nose up you've been to the park

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688.817 - 694.3 Brett

There are turtles in that pond in the park. Oh, for sure. You always see their little noses sticking out of the water. I've seen that so they can breathe.

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694.78 - 711.23 Alice

Exactly. Exactly. But they don't have gills, right? And they have to have their mouths up there. And typically you see them sunbathing on rocks because they can swim to the top. But just like you and I, if you paddle forever, you get tired and you sink to the bottom. And then if you sink to the bottom, don't have air, you die.

711.69 - 719.933 Alice

So that may have been what happened to one of my turtles that I caught from the creek. The same creek where I found the salamanders and lizards that I played with as a child.

719.953 - 720.713 Brett

The ones you'd use as earrings?

721.033 - 735.098 Alice

Yes, yes, exactly. We don't have to revisit that. Yes, I played with all these adorable reptiles and amphibians. So anyways, the turtles, because I didn't put rocks in the water where I was keeping it, they did not make it.

736.018 - 761.453 Brett

all i'm saying what would the rocks what would the rocks have to do with anything oh because they can stand on the rocks correct correct it was a place to rest so that they could breathe because they would otherwise paddle until they could no longer paddle have you ever had turtle soup yeah of course it's a very new orlean thing that's what i was about to say yeah i went to commander's palace for the first time last year that's what they're famous for a turtle man it's so good

Chapter 6: How do roosters and chickens relate to the podcast theme?

970.877 - 974.659 Brett

Do you need a rooster to cause the chicken to lay eggs?

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975.299 - 979.542 Brett

Or do you not want a rooster because you want eggs that are not fertilized?

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979.803 - 989.309 Alice

You don't want a rooster. At all. Correct. Well, I mean, you actually want a rooster so that you can keep having hens because hens get eaten a lot by wildlife.

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990.049 - 992.191 Brett

Does a rooster protect the hens because it's got those spurs?

993.151 - 1006.901 Alice

No. No, you want the rooster so that you can have some fertilized eggs so that you can then hatch some little chick. Oh, replacement hens. Replacement hens. But no, the roosters are vicious, man.

1007.341 - 1009.683 Brett

There's a reason they fight those things.

1010.244 - 1013.846 Alice

We prosecuted some of those cases. We should do a case about that. It's really interesting.

1014.326 - 1020.611 Brett

And I like South Carolina. Cock Commander or whatever his name is. Sir Cox a lot. I can't forget what his name is. Sir Cox a lot.

Chapter 7: Why do the hosts discuss animal behaviors?

1141.534 - 1161.097 Alice

And you guys, even if you think you've heard something before, Jason is able to bring out things you never thought about. Just check out these recent episodes. He had an interview with Kimberly Loring, the sister of a 20-year-old missing Montana woman, Ashley Loring Heavenredder, and about her search for her sister, finding faith in God and forgiving those who harmed Ashley.

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1161.357 - 1178.456 Alice

You'll have to check out this incredible interview he had about journalists in Minnesota and Iowa who are still advocating for and searching for Jodi Husen Truitt, a broadcast journalist who disappeared in 1995. And then there's this interview with a friend of a domestic violence victim who was murdered in 2023 in Minnesota.

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1234.986 - 1241.468 Brett

We're going to get someone who wants to start with these brothers. Okay. Before we get started, though, because I mentioned Finding Nemo. You've seen Finding Nemo, right?

1241.768 - 1261.793 Alice

Oh, I love Finding Nemo. Do you still not let your kids watch TV? We don't watch TV. Wait, can I tell you a really quick story about Nemo, though? Yes. My kids don't watch TV, but they read books, and obviously a lot of these, you know, Disney movies and movies, Pixar movies get turned into books. So we have the finding Nemo book and you know how Nemo is written.

1261.873 - 1270.134 Alice

Like it's all wavy, kind of like a sea, whatever, like a wave because it's an oceanic themed movie.

1270.714 - 1274.955 Brett

So my, I went to the finding Nemo ride when we were at Disney world.

Chapter 8: How does the podcast incorporate humor and light-heartedness?

1318.869 - 1321.33 Brett

I don't think the whale can actually eat something that big.

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1322.104 - 1323.485 Alice

Oh, so he was just lucky.

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1323.505 - 1324.705 Brett

I think, yeah.

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1324.825 - 1327.567 Alice

I don't know. I believe in my Bible stories. Jonah and the whale.

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1328.727 - 1330.428 Brett

Most people think it was a giant fish.

1331.529 - 1332.929 Alice

Can fishy people that big?

1333.129 - 1334.29 Brett

Depends on how big the fish was.

1334.912 - 1335.552 Alice

That's fair.

1336.033 - 1341.015 Brett

And also, you had God intervening. So even if it was, well, I mean, a killer whale can eat people.

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