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Their L.A. Neighborhood Burned. Two Residents Find What’s Left.

Mon, 13 Jan 2025

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The Pacific Palisades neighborhood of Los Angeles has been decimated by some of the worst fires in U.S. history. On Friday, WSJ’s Katherine Sayre accompanied two residents who went back to see what is left of their homes. Further Reading: -The Palisades Residents Who Took Long Journeys to See What’s Left of Their Lives  -Their Wealth Is in Their Homes. Their Homes Are Now Ash.  Further Listening: -The Race to Save an Iconic Train From Falling Into the Ocean  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What happened in the Pacific Palisades?

5.746 - 9.928 Gavin Bates

How far back are you? I am... Behind that truck? Yeah, just behind the truck.

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Chapter 2: Who are the residents affected by the fires?

11.489 - 35.18 Mariah Lanphardt

On Friday morning, a long line of cars formed in the Pacific Palisades neighborhood of Los Angeles, a place that's been decimated over the past few days by raging wildfires. In areas where the fires have burned out, authorities have started to let residents back in to assess the damage and to see what's left of their homes. In one of the cars was a woman named Mariah Lanphardt.

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35.649 - 46.759 Gavin Bates

Yeah, so we had a clue that our house was gone when we got this map from, like, Cal Fire or whatever. But they didn't update this for so long, so I was, like, holding out.

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48.16 - 51.383 Mariah Lanphardt

With her was a man from her neighborhood named Gavin Bates.

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51.824 - 61.913 Ryan Knutson

My wife didn't even want to come. She's like, why are you going? I feel like I just need to see it myself. Totally. I feel the same way. I just need to see it. It's hard. It's hard.

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64.457 - 73.72 Mariah Lanphardt

Getting into the neighborhood was a slow process. Police were escorting people in, in part to protect against looters, and they only let a handful of cars in at a time.

Chapter 3: What was the experience of returning to the neighborhood like?

73.74 - 78.001 Gavin Bates

Maybe I should roll up the window. I think it's going to be smoky. Yeah, it's going to be miserable.

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79.302 - 85.444 Mariah Lanphardt

Also in the car was our colleague Catherine Sayre, who Mariah said could tag along to report on the damage.

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86.124 - 88.465 Gavin Bates

Well, this is more fun than being all alone, so...

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94.318 - 122.681 Mariah Lanphardt

Catherine spent the next few hours with Mariah and Gavin, just two of the thousands of people whose lives have been turned upside down by the ongoing fires in Los Angeles. Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Ryan Knudson. It's Monday, January 13th. Coming up on the show, a journey back to the Pacific Palisades.

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139.659 - 162.91 Mariah Lanphardt

In the line of cars waiting to get back to the Pacific Palisades, Mariah, Gavin, and our colleague Catherine chatted in Mariah's Honda Civic. They talked about life before the fire. Mariah, who's 24, lived with her 80-year-old great-aunt, Their house was a white, single-story family home with a blue awning and a big backyard. Her aunt moved there in the mid-1970s.

163.511 - 170.574 Gavin Bates

My aunt bought her house first with her first husband, and then they got a divorce, and my aunt bought the house from him.

171.434 - 184.54 Mariah Lanphardt

Mariah said it was filled with a lifetime of possessions, like her aunt's art collection and handmade wooden furniture. Several generations of Mariah's family lived in the neighborhood, including her grandma, who she calls her Obachan.

185.41 - 201.456 Gavin Bates

And my Obachan would always talk about, they're building too far into the mountains. They're building too far into the mountains. Something's going to happen, you know. And here we are at the edge of the mountain. And yeah, it's decimated.

203.717 - 221.733 Mariah Lanphardt

Gavin was a much more recent addition to the neighborhood. He moved there in 2010 with his wife. Now they have two kids and lived in an area known as the Alphabet Streets. Last Tuesday morning, Gavin and his family were at home when smoke began to appear on the hills above their house.

Chapter 4: What did Mariah and Gavin find when they returned home?

298.829 - 304.833 Ryan Knutson

And so, the first thing, the heat shattered the glass around 10, and then you can see... AM?

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304.913 - 305.214 Gavin Bates

PM?

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305.254 - 316.041 Ryan Knutson

PM. And you can see the progression of things breaking in the house from 10 to 11, whatever. There are all different sorts of alarms going off, like... I'm sure there was... Glass break.

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316.061 - 316.902 Gavin Bates

Oh, God.

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317.002 - 322.614 Ryan Knutson

Smoke sensor. This sensor. Yeah. two-heat sprinkler system.

322.854 - 323.494 Gavin Bates

Oh, of course.

323.854 - 327.795 Ryan Knutson

And I'm sitting in a hotel room watching my house get to me.

327.975 - 329.875 Gavin Bates

Oh, my gosh.

332.936 - 356.883 Mariah Lanphardt

As of Monday morning, more than 12,000 structures have been destroyed by the L.A. fires. Everything from mobile homes to celebrity mansions, as well as businesses and schools. Entire neighborhoods have been reduced to ash. The focus now for people affected, like Mariah and Gavin, is to figure out what they lost. And to do that, they need to see what's left of their homes.

Chapter 5: How did the fires impact families in the area?

381.65 - 389.136 Ryan Knutson

The irony of my situation is my wife really doesn't like my car. She's like, eh, I don't really want that car anyway. It's fine. It's gone. It's her.

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389.196 - 390.177 Gavin Bates

It's your car.

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390.197 - 402.747 Ryan Knutson

I'm like, if that car survived, I've never given up on that car. It's old as it is, but I'm going to have... It's going to get a sticker that said, I survived the fire, and it's never going anywhere. Literally.

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403.553 - 408.756 Mariah Lanphardt

Another reason Mariah and Gavin were waiting in line was to take photos for insurance claims they plan to file.

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409.436 - 412.398 Ryan Knutson

Our insurance has been good so far, but they're like, we need pictures.

412.618 - 414.899 Gavin Bates

I know. Yeah, right. It's just started.

414.919 - 420.423 Ryan Knutson

We need you to go in. And it's like, my car, my car might be melted right inside. It may not start.

420.823 - 421.003 Gavin Bates

Yeah.

421.283 - 428.43 Ryan Knutson

The auto guy's like, your car looks fine. I can't make a claim until you go start it. I'm like, okay, I need to go and start it.

Chapter 6: What steps are residents taking for insurance claims?

446.42 - 471.849 Mariah Lanphardt

So far, the fires have racked up more than $50 billion in losses. It's the costliest fire in U.S. history. And that number is likely to grow, considering the fires aren't contained yet. At least 24 people have died. By 3 p.m. on Friday, hours after they first arrived in line, Mariah's car finally made it to the front. When they got there, a police officer was waiting.

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472.569 - 477.611 Mariah Lanphardt

He told Mariah and Gavin that they'd be escorted up to their homes and that they'd only have a few minutes there.

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478.211 - 481.272 Catherine Sayre

Quick, quick, quick, in and out. Yeah, we understand.

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481.292 - 485.774 Ryan Knutson

So my car is in there, so I'm getting a ride to drive my car out. I have a picture of it.

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485.794 - 487.334 Gavin Bates

And if it doesn't work, I'm going to drive him out.

Chapter 7: What is the extent of the damage caused by the fires?

487.354 - 487.754 Ryan Knutson

That's fine.

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487.834 - 493.036 Catherine Sayre

When you go in your house, it's not to go in and hang out. My house is gone. Be very careful.

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493.096 - 493.456 Gavin Bates

We will.

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493.716 - 498.158 Catherine Sayre

Whatever valuables you're going to get or medicine, it's whatever you can get in and out within like five minutes.

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498.278 - 499.358 Gavin Bates

Yeah, I'm just taking pictures.

Chapter 8: What are the emotional impacts of the fires on residents?

500.619 - 505.12 Mariah Lanphardt

With a few other cars and a police escort, they began driving towards the neighborhood.

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505.14 - 507.181 Gavin Bates

How are y'all feeling right now?

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512.086 - 519.814 Ryan Knutson

Numbed. It's like that numb feeling, right? It's like... Defeated. There is no words. No words that really do it justice.

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520.755 - 521.136 Gavin Bates

Yeah.

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524.579 - 525.38 Mariah Lanphardt

We'll be right back.

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592.29 - 600.934 Mariah Lanphardt

As Mariah, Gavin, and Catherine were escorted into the neighborhood by police, they saw the scale of the destruction with their own eyes. Oh, wow.

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