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The Biggest Supermarket Merger That Wasn’t

Thu, 12 Dec 2024

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This week, a federal judge blocked a proposed $20-billion merger between the U.S.’s two largest supermarket chains, Kroger and Albertsons. WSJ’s Patrick Thomas reports on what happened in the trial, why the two chains turned on one another and what’s next for the grocery business. Further Listening: - The Fight for 7-Eleven  - Why the FTC is Challenging a $25 Billion Supermarket Merger  Further Reading: - Albertsons Sues Kroger, Terminates Merger After Judge Blocks Supermarket Megadeal  - Kroger-Albertsons Merger Blocked by Court, Handing Victory to Biden Antitrust Enforcers  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What happened in the Kroger-Albertsons merger case?

5.6 - 14.526 Jessica Mendoza

One of the biggest corporate dramas of the year played out recently inside a sweltering courtroom in Oregon. Our colleague Patrick Thomas was there covering the trial.

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15.247 - 33.579 Patrick Thomas

And you know, it's a smaller, a little bit of a smaller courtroom, not accustomed to these kind of high-profile antitrust trials. And it got really hot in that courtroom. I mean, it was, everybody's got to pack together in the back benches. And it was, yeah, it would get pretty toasty.

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35.512 - 44.554 Jessica Mendoza

The case? The Federal Trade Commission was suing to block a merger between the country's two largest supermarket chains, Kroger and Albertsons.

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46.674 - 60.737 Patrick Thomas

At a high level, it was about the largest grocery store deal of all time. And if these two companies combining, we're going to mean higher food prices for consumers.

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Chapter 2: Why did the FTC block the merger?

62.068 - 73.879 Jessica Mendoza

The deal would have been worth $20 billion, and it would have created a mega grocery store operator. This week, months after the FTC filed its suit, a judge finally ruled on the case.

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75.36 - 83.708 Jane Doe

The federal judge has blocked the merger of grocery giants Kroger and Albertsons after a three-week hearing. It's a deal that didn't check out.

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Chapter 3: What were the implications of the judge's ruling?

87.898 - 95.64 Jessica Mendoza

And so you would think that the judge's ruling here, no, you cannot push through with this merger, would be the end of the story. But was it?

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96.501 - 104.643 Patrick Thomas

Of course not. Shortly after the judge made this decision, Albertsons decided they were going to sue Kroger for billions of dollars.

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108.264 - 125.599 Jessica Mendoza

Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Jessica Mendoza. It's Thursday, December 12th. Coming up on the show, the supermarket mega-merger that wasn't.

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170.256 - 191.437 Jessica Mendoza

In 2022, Kroger, the country's largest supermarket chain, announced plans to buy a big competitor, Albertsons. Kroger operates more than 2,700 supermarkets across the country, which means if you shop at a Ralph's on the West Coast, a Mariano's in the Chicago area, or a Harris Teeter in the Southeast, you're shopping at a Kroger-operated store.

192.398 - 208.347 Patrick Thomas

And then on the other side of this, you have the second biggest supermarket operator, Albertson's, which is a little bit more known on the West Coast. The name is a little bit less known, but, you know, think of Safeway. a storied name like that, that falls under the Albertsons company.

209.588 - 228.915 Jessica Mendoza

A Kroger-Albertsons merger would have created a $200 billion company with about 4,500 stores across the United States. Back in February, the FTC sued to block this deal under antitrust law. What was the FTC's case in trying to block this deal in the first place?

229.83 - 250.385 Patrick Thomas

So the FTC's case essentially is you can't take the number one and the number two biggest supermarket, put them together and not expect there to be a loss in competition in the market and not expect consumers to feel that. And it would give Kroger enough dominance where they could raise prices unchecked.

Chapter 4: How significant is Walmart's role in the grocery market?

317.523 - 343.207 Patrick Thomas

Mr. McMullen references a store in Dixon, Tennessee in the 1990s. And when he saw a Walmart open near that particular town, and the sales of the Kroger in that town just plummeted after the fact. And he referenced that in court as being kind of a seminal moment for him seeing like, wow, look at these stores like a Walmart, these discount kind of stores that can undercut a supermarket's

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344.326 - 366.301 Jessica Mendoza

So if you're keeping score, Kroger sells 9% of all groceries in the U.S. Albertson's sells 5%. And Walmart sells well over 20%. So even if Kroger and Albertson's were to combine, they still wouldn't match Walmart in grocery sales. And McMullen wasn't just worried about Walmart. There's also Amazon.

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367.101 - 390.829 Patrick Thomas

One of the scenes he brought everybody through was in 2017... Amazon's purchase of Whole Foods was, as he called it, a watershed moment for the industry. Them doing this big deal and Amazon putting their buying power together with Whole Foods to basically making Amazon a competitor to Kroger, which scared him.

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390.849 - 399.295 Patrick Thomas

He keeps a copy of the local business journal in his office to just remind him of that deal and that Amazon is out there.

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399.836 - 404.599 Jessica Mendoza

Mm-hmm. And did Albertsons say anything about competitors like Walmart and Amazon?

405.467 - 423.832 Patrick Thomas

Albertson sees a little bit more of an existential threat. Albertson's testified in court shortly after Mr. McMullen did saying, look, we kind of need this deal because we see bigger threats on the horizon to our business that we're financially sound right now.

424.312 - 434.575 Patrick Thomas

But two to three years from now, we don't think we can even compete to the level Kroger is in terms of lowering prices and getting market share and competing against these Walmart's

435.953 - 444.019 Jessica Mendoza

But a federal judge wasn't buying it. On Tuesday, Judge Adrienne Nelson of the U.S. District Court in Oregon ruled against the deal.

445.961 - 462.334 Patrick Thomas

So she came down on the side of the FTC with a pretty emphatic no to this merger, saying this was something that would erode competition and ultimately lead to higher prices for consumers and that this merger was not going to happen under her watch.

Chapter 5: What did Kroger's CEO testify about competition?

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A new twist in the attempted Kroger-Albertsons merger a day after it was blocked by a judge.

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492.104 - 495.265 Patrick Thomas

Now it looks like Albertsons is going to sue Kroger.

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496.366 - 497.146 Jessica Mendoza

That's after the break.

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530.325 - 544.681 Jessica Mendoza

Less than 24 hours after Judge Nelson ruled against the Kroger-Albertsons deal, Albertsons sued Kroger. And while it isn't rare for parties in a failed merger to sue one another, the speed at which Albertsons filed its suit surprised Patrick.

547.324 - 562.872 Patrick Thomas

I mean, this legal fight is, it's, Albertsons is suing them for, I mean, billions of dollars. And that is a significant chunk of money for a company like Kroger that sells a lot of people's foods as well as Albertsons and the livelihood of Albertsons.

564.873 - 566.534 Jessica Mendoza

What is it that Albertsons is alleging?

567.751 - 592.406 Patrick Thomas

So Albertsons, they have two kind of main things they're alleging here. Number one, they're saying Kroger decided not to give them the termination fee. Basically, when these two companies decided we're going to merge as part of their merger agreement, Kroger said that if this doesn't happen, we're going to pay Albertsons $600 million. Albertsons is alleging that Kroger...

593.553 - 607.785 Patrick Thomas

tried to stiff them, more or less, and not pay the fee, and they're suing for that, and that Kroger breached the merger agreement by not doing everything in their power to make this go through with regulators.

Chapter 6: What are Albertsons' concerns about market competition?

621.016 - 637.17 Jessica Mendoza

But Albertsons says that Kroger should have offered to sell more stores, that the stores they agreed to sell should have been more profitable, and that it should have picked a more successful third-party company to sell the stores to. Kroger says the claims are baseless.

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637.79 - 655.144 Jessica Mendoza

It says that Albertsons was the one who repeatedly breached their agreement and that the suit is an attempt to deflect responsibility. So, OK, with this lawsuit now happening, Albertsons suing Kroger, where does this leave Kroger and Albertsons?

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656.018 - 678.841 Patrick Thomas

Well, Kroger has said that there's not someone as big or transformational as an Albertsons out there. So they may do some other wonkier things like share repurchases or put money back towards their stores or supply chains, try and go in on their own. And analysts generally feel that Kroger is in healthy enough shape where they will be okay

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679.702 - 690.248 Patrick Thomas

they're not going to get the same earnings potential or the same transformation they would have had buying Albertsons. They won't get that. That's more or less where it leaves Kroger.

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691.369 - 692.289 Jessica Mendoza

What about Albertsons?

693.33 - 717.643 Patrick Thomas

Albertsons, it's far more uncertain, given that in court, their CEO on the stand painted a much more doom and gloom picture about their future as a company. But he said in two to three years, they might have to consider layoffs and store closures and that they really needed this deal to happen. So it's more uncertain what's going to happen to them.

718.503 - 731.935 Jessica Mendoza

So the FTC sued because they were worried that this merger was anti-competitive and the judge agreed. But if Albertsons is right and in a couple of years they wind up closing a bunch of stores, wouldn't that also limit consumer choice?

732.731 - 751.566 Patrick Thomas

Certainly, that could limit consumer choices. You could have a situation where Albertsons decides to start shedding stores and you do have fewer options. And instead of being owned by a Kroger, which promised to invest a billion dollars annually in lower prices, you don't get that and you just lose your option.

Chapter 7: What does the future hold for Kroger and Albertsons?

752.847 - 769.111 Jessica Mendoza

The ruling didn't just deal a blow to Kroger and Albertsons. It could also empower big retailers like Amazon and Walmart. Because the FTC argued that while those companies do sell groceries, they aren't in direct competition with traditional supermarkets. And Judge Nelson agreed.

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770.427 - 786.432 Jessica Mendoza

So for companies like Amazon and Walmart, does this situation pave the way for them to become even bigger threats to the likes of Kroger and Albertsons? Like, could they buy up other grocery stores? Is that still an open channel for them?

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787.213 - 810.973 Patrick Thomas

They certainly could. Walmart's got a lot of power in the industry, and they've got a balance sheet deep enough to experiment in other ways in grocery that Albertsons can't. Walmart can do that. Amazon, could they do more deals in grocery in addition to Whole Foods that they did in 2017 that Mr. McMullen told us was a watershed moment? They certainly could. That's speculation.

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Chapter 8: What are the broader implications for the grocery industry?

811.053 - 832.166 Patrick Thomas

But there are some in the industry who have told me that they do expect Amazon... to be a buyer if they wanted to be. We don't know that for certain, but they wouldn't be shocked if Amazon did more grocery deals to try and establish more of a brick-and-mortar presence. And that would be essentially what Mr. McMullen on the witness stand warned us about.

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833.829 - 853.42 Jessica Mendoza

One contextual piece that we kind of touched on early in the conversation is that this all happened under the Biden administration's FTC, which has been pretty strict about mergers in the past four years. Would a merger like this have had a better chance under a Trump administration?

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854.073 - 868.218 Patrick Thomas

You know, that's a great question. I had plenty of conversations with folks who did kind of wonder out loud if it would have been better to wait two years and see if they could have waited this out. We'll never know the answer to that.

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871.959 - 876.521 Jessica Mendoza

What does this story tell us about the nature of the supermarket industry today?

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877.304 - 902.225 Patrick Thomas

Yeah, the supermarket industry, it's a low margin business. They operate on really, really tight margins because they're always trying to make up even just a cent here, a cent here on different items. Their pricing strategies have to be so precise in order to make a profit. I think over the course of this, we've learned a lot about how our food is priced and how supermarkets actually function.

902.885 - 923.491 Patrick Thomas

I think Albertson's called it a zero-sum game in grocery markets. If you are the high-priced guy in town and they can get a deal somewhere, they will leave you very quickly. And these companies have to figure out how to formulate against each other. And it's an example of how quickly things can change if you take your eye off the ball.

924.191 - 931.805 Jessica Mendoza

Yeah. It sounds like it's like the supermarket industry is more cutthroat than we maybe as consumers imagined.

932.165 - 959.387 Patrick Thomas

Yeah, I would definitely say so. They're fierce competitors that spy on one another and try to get the best deal on certain products and sue each other after $20 billion mergers don't happen. You know, they're going to try and get their money back. Ultimately, it might take some time, but consumers will be the judge on how this ultimately impacted their food prices over the next couple of years.

960.507 - 971.85 Patrick Thomas

Maybe we'll remember this being a situation where our prices never went up and a win for the people, or maybe what the companies had predicted will come to pass.

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