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Love Trump? Now You Can Buy His Meme Coin.

Thu, 23 Jan 2025

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The crypto industry has hailed President Trump as a savior. But shortly before his inauguration, Trump made a surprise move that shook the crypto world. WSJ’s Vicky Ge Huang explains the president’s new cryptocurrency and why it has ruffled feathers. Further Reading: -$TRUMP Is Already Worth Billions. What to Know About the Meme Coin.  -Crypto Thought Trump Would Bring It Legitimacy. Then He Launched a Meme Coin.  Further Listening: -Bitcoin Hit $100k. What's Next?  -Inside the Trump Crypto Bromance  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What was the Crypto Ball celebrating?

5.646 - 18.82 Kate Leinbaugh

The Friday before inauguration, the crypto industry convened in D.C. for a party. They called it the Crypto Ball. Our colleague Vicky Huang talked to some of the attendees.

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19.901 - 38.45 Vicky Ge Huang

Who was there? Everyone. A lot of the most high-profile people in crypto were there, such as Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong, the co-founders of crypto exchange Gemini, the Winklevoss brothers, and some of the most high-profile political figures.

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39.57 - 56.376 Kate Leinbaugh

Trump's pick for Treasury Secretary was there. So was the Speaker of the House. Guests noshed on beef tenderloin and tuna tartare. They snapped up free swag like Make Bitcoin Great Again hats and Trump-style golden slippers. Snoop Dogg performed.

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Chapter 2: How did Trump become a cheerleader for crypto?

56.396 - 58.037 Jane Doe

What were they celebrating?

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63.86 - 76.393 Vicky Ge Huang

They were celebrating the inauguration of President Trump. But beyond that, it was more about how President Trump has become the crypto industry's biggest cheerleader.

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77.688 - 106.083 Kate Leinbaugh

On the campaign trail, Trump embraced crypto. He promised industry-friendly regulations and pledged to start a national Bitcoin reserve. And the crypto industry embraced Trump right back, channeling contributions to him and other crypto-friendly candidates. Now, at the crypto ball, it seemed like all that effort and cash was about to pay off. Here's Trump's crypto czar, David Sachs, on stage.

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106.503 - 119.507 David Sachs

The reign of terror against crypto is over. And the beginning of innovation in America for crypto has just begun.

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120.587 - 127.729 Kate Leinbaugh

But while they were partying, Trump, the champion of the crypto industry, was making a surprise move.

129.44 - 140.564 Vicky Ge Huang

So at 9 p.m., President Trump posted on his social media platform, Truth Social, that he was launching a cryptocurrency.

140.584 - 172.886 Kate Leinbaugh

The president-elect had just launched his own coin. And this move would roil the crypto community. Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Kate Linebaugh. It's Thursday, January 23rd. Coming up on the show, why Trump's cryptocurrency has shaken the crypto world.

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Chapter 3: What is a meme coin?

292.216 - 301.979 Kate Leinbaugh

In its heyday in 2021, Dogecoin was worth over $80 billion. Unsurprisingly, it spawned many imitators.

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303.099 - 317.243 Vicky Ge Huang

So as a result, you have Shiba Inu coin, you have baby Dogecoin, you have dog with hat coin, which is based on meme of a Doge wearing a pink beanie.

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317.843 - 324.67 Kate Leinbaugh

And as a serious reporter for the Wall Street Journal, You're covering these things. It's a fun job.

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330.582 - 356.568 Vicky Ge Huang

How do you make one of these coins? They have become extremely easy to create. Say if you want to create a meme coin, you can go onto one of these platforms, websites, and you click a button and they ask you to put in the names, the ticker, some other basic information, and then you pay a fee and then your meme coin is created within minutes.

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357.682 - 387.215 Kate Leinbaugh

Because they're so popular and easy to make, meme coins have also become a vehicle for scams. One of these scams is sometimes called a rug pull. Basically, someone launches a new coin, they hype it up, convince other people to buy it, and then they sell, raking in the profits and tanking the coin price for everyone else. All of which is to say, meme coins don't have the greatest reputation.

389.52 - 395.846 Kate Leinbaugh

OK, so tell us about this coin that Trump launched last Friday, the night of the crypto ball.

396.687 - 414.131 Vicky Ge Huang

So the night of the crypto ball, Trump launched a meme coin that trades under the ticker Trump. And the meme itself is a picture of President Trump with his fist in the air with the words fight, fight, fight in the background.

414.931 - 446.549 Kate Leinbaugh

Trump announced the launch on his Truth Social platform. He posted, quote, get your Trump now. The price of the token immediately soared. In the first hours of trading, one Trump coin could go for $7, $10, and then $20. But as more people jumped in, the price climbed even higher to $30, $40, then $70. On Sunday, the Trump coin had an almost $15 billion market cap.

448.009 - 455.434 Kate Leinbaugh

For the people who bought this coin, why did they do it? Why did they think it was a good move? I thought these kinds of coins are jokes.

Chapter 4: What did Trump announce on Truth Social?

584.953 - 594.319 Kate Leinbaugh

Wait, wait a second. Her stock goes up, so his goes down? Yes. I say stock, but I mean coin. Her coin goes up, so his goes down? Yes.

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595.293 - 609.12 Vicky Ge Huang

Yes, the launch of her coin caused his coin to crash. Why? Is that because they like Melania more? I don't think so. I think they like any new opportunity to make money on the newest, hottest thing.

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610.481 - 623.888 Kate Leinbaugh

The problem, according to traders Vicky talked to, was that the buyers for Trump's coin and Melania's coin overlapped. The same people who were looking to make a quick buck on Trump's coin now wanted Melania's token.

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624.591 - 635.495 Vicky Ge Huang

Traders basically had to sell the Trump tokens in order to buy the newest coin because they see this upside of making profits.

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641.037 - 665.44 Kate Leinbaugh

Some crypto fans applauded Trump's decision to release a coin, saying it brought energy, attention and new users to digital currencies. Others just bragged on X about their gains, like media entrepreneur Dave Portnoy. He said he made, quote, a quick milli and then said he loved Trump's America. But the Trump and Melania coins also generated plenty of criticism.

666.32 - 678.506 Kate Leinbaugh

Cryptoskeptics called the coins a scam, and others worried that people might buy tokens as a way of currying favor with Trump. Has Trump responded to these concerns?

679.298 - 686.902 Vicky Ge Huang

Trump hasn't responded to these concerns, and the Trump Organization hasn't responded or made any statements.

688.062 - 693.265 Kate Leinbaugh

At a press conference with the president Tuesday, a reporter referred to the launch of Trump's coin.

693.285 - 698.087 Jane Doe

Do you intend to continue selling products that benefit yourself personally while you're president?

Chapter 5: Why did traders invest in Trump's meme coin?

708.271 - 743.734 Kate Leinbaugh

But Trump's coin has done more than fire up the usual critics. It's also drawn criticism from within the crypto community. That's next. The release of the Trump meme coin blindsided people in the crypto industry who've been working hard to repair crypto's reputation.

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744.648 - 771.389 Vicky Ge Huang

Ever since the collapse of the crypto exchange FTX, the industry's reputation has been tarnished. It has been seen as this industry that's rife with fraud and scams and all kinds of scandals. However, especially over the past year, the industry has really been working hard to rebuild its image. And it has made a lot of progress on that front.

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772.625 - 786.651 Kate Leinbaugh

Crypto is increasingly going mainstream. Major Wall Street firms now offer crypto funds. Crypto-friendly legislators won big in November's election. And in December, the price of Bitcoin hit $100,000 for the first time.

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788.928 - 816.974 Vicky Ge Huang

They feel like they have finally arrived at this moment where crypto could be taken seriously. And then you have the soon-to-be president of the United States launching a cryptocurrency that's known for its speculative nature, extreme volatility and high risks. It's kind of... like proving to the world that crypto is speculation. Crypto is nothing more than speculation.

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816.994 - 820.399 Vicky Ge Huang

It is a sort of boom and bust investment.

821.607 - 845.528 Kate Leinbaugh

Meme coins have such a dodgy reputation that when Trump first posted about his new coin, many in the crypto community assumed it was a scam and his accounts had been hacked. When it became clear that the coin launch was real, some in the industry raised concerns that it was a rug pull, that the Trump entities behind the coin could cash out, tanking the coin price for everyone else.

Chapter 6: What does Trump's coin launch mean for him financially?

848.962 - 875.731 Vicky Ge Huang

A lot of critics of the coins think that the tokens have characteristics of a rug pull. So one characteristic that worries a lot of crypto watchers is that the Trump tokens, 80% of it, are controlled by insiders, the organizations related to the Trump Organization.

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876.806 - 892.734 Vicky Ge Huang

Heavy insider ownership is a red flag because it means that the insiders will be able to sell lots of tokens and crash or collapse the price of the token in a very quick period of time.

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893.654 - 900.878 Kate Leinbaugh

On the other hand, Vicky says, cashing out would be tricky in practice because of how the Trump meme coin is structured.

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902.133 - 929.483 Vicky Ge Huang

The one stipulation on the website associated with the Trump coin is that in total there are 1 billion Trump coins in existence. But only 200 million have been released since the token launched on Friday. And the rest of it, the 800 million tokens, will be released over three years. So Trump can't just sell all the tokens immediately.

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930.003 - 937.587 Kate Leinbaugh

They need to be... sold over the course of three years? Yes. So that's a sign that it might not be a rug pull.

938.227 - 941.228 Vicky Ge Huang

Yes, that's a sign that it might not be a rug pull.

946.851 - 951.893 Kate Leinbaugh

What does this whole coin drama tell you about the crypto industry?

953.146 - 987.386 Vicky Ge Huang

It reflects this tension between two sides of crypto. On one side, there are these serious builders, executives, and investors who ardently hope that crypto will be seen as a real investment. important industry that's driving innovation in America. On the other side, there are these fast money traders. They want numbers to go up and tokens to trade based on speculation, hype, and excitement.

988.146 - 991.489 Kate Leinbaugh

The tension between the gamblers and the suits.

Chapter 7: Who is behind the Trump coin?

1066.932 - 1105.471 Kate Leinbaugh

As of Thursday afternoon, Melania's coin is worth about $470 million, and Trump's coin, about $7 billion. That's all for today, Thursday, January 23rd. The Journal is a co-production of Spotify and The Wall Street Journal. Additional reporting in this episode by Caitlin Ostroff. Audio in this episode from Rob Smith via Storyful. Thanks for listening. See you tomorrow.

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