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Chapter 1: What are the benefits of sauna and cold plunges?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You know, those little things they put in there to like absorb humidity. Yeah. I don't know. I think that's what they're for, right? Yeah. They absorb humidity. Is that what they do? Salt or something. Maybe they provide it. Do they provide humidity?
What does it do? I'm now staying in, not exclusively, but like I'm my hotel choice. I'm solving for places with sauna cold plunge. So I can kind of do that in the morning and feel alive. There's a lot more of those now. Well, it's great. But you travel the world. I travel everywhere. So I was in like Vienna. They've got this incredible facility.
And I went and it's like, you know, it's an amazing sauna, amazing cold plunge. So I get in there. I'm having a great time. A guy walks in. And I get told off for wearing shorts because I've got swim shorts on and it's Austria and they like to sauna naked. They want to look at your cock. They want to check it out. Okay. And now I've got no problem with that in the sauna.
I've got zero problem in the sauna. I tell you where the problem comes. What? Post cold plunge. Yeah. That is some baby dick. You know where the real problem comes? Aggressive gay men. In Saunas? Yeah. I mean, there was very little of that going on, I think. Well, most of the time. I think Saunas had that reputation for... Oh, I've seen it.
I've had a guy do it to me. Oh, really? Yeah, a guy looked me in the eye and take his robe and open up his towel while he's staring at me.
Is there more to this story? Where does this... No. That feels like... No. Okay. Yeah. There's no more to the story.
Is the guy okay, Joe? Yeah, I didn't hurt him. I don't think I even said anything to him. I just went like this. And then just didn't look at him. And then within three minutes, he put his towel back on and walked out and left. Like, so he was fishing. And that's how I met... Threw a line out there. That's how I met your mother.
And that is how I met Tony Hinchcliffe. That's the origination story of...
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Chapter 2: What experiences have comedians had with hecklers?
Yeah, so this is how horoscopes got big. Incredibly attractive women spoke about their horoscope and no one went, this sounds like some bullshit.
It's interesting you bring that up because I was just watching the Danny Jones podcast today and he had my friend Hamilton Morris on, who's been on this podcast a few times. And they were talking about the Reagan administration and about how the war on drugs really got started. Like this is your brain on drugs, all that stuff. Nancy Reagan's pet project.
Yeah.
And it was because Nancy Reagan, according to Hamilton, and he he's got he's very.
I've heard this. She had like a guru. Yes.
But this is where it started. She was mocked. For being like this frivolous person who is the wife of the president. And Hamilton sort of relates it to the way Melania Trump gets mocked. And, you know, she had apparently famously spent like an insane amount of money on new China for the White House, like new silverware in China. China. Oh, like dishware?
Yeah, but that's how we pronounce it. China. China in the Trump household. China. China.
But it wasn't a Trump household back then. It was Reagan. That's a terrible Reagan impression. But so anyway, she went to her psychic slash whatever it is, astrologer slash whatever this kooky person is. And they gave good advice. They said, you got to do something to distract it. So you have to have a cause. And so her cause became the war on drugs. Her cause became just say no. Right.
I mean, did that work out well? I forget. How did the war on drugs go?
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Chapter 3: How does the comedy community support aspiring comedians?
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Yeah, women that are forced to take care of themselves and forced to make all the money and run the household and take care of the children, their testosterone naturally rises. Also, women have more testosterone than they do estrogen. That's interesting, isn't it? Wild. I never knew that until, I forget who said it. I was like, that's kind of crazy.
But it's that thing of like, you know, for young women, if you're talking to young women, like what would the advice be? And it's like, because young men take risks, right? But young women tend not to take the same risks. But maybe if you do more calculated risks, kind of levels the playing field a little bit.
Chapter 4: What are the challenges and benefits of comedy as an art form?
Playing field for what game?
Well, I suppose career, for what choices you make in life.
I think – I wonder how much crossover there is between women's decisions, career paths and men's. Like how often are women actually competing with – obviously they do. But how often? You know what I mean? Like if there wasn't any societal pressure for a woman to be a career woman and a boss girl – You know, because there's a lot of that.
There's like pressure to like show that you're as good as everyone else who's also doing this. And, you know, Sally is a CEO. You should be a CEO, too. And there's a lot of pressure. But if you just let them decide their own path, how much crossover would there be with men and women?
I don't know. I mean, I read a lot of it's like Mary Harrington and Louise Perry, these kind of great feminist writers. And they often sort of talk about this thing of like going, we talk about one stage of feminism above and there's three. There's like there's the there's the maiden. which is the young woman out for a career who can do anything a man can do, right? Absolutely.
And then there's motherhood, which a man cannot compete. But feminism doesn't really talk about motherhood that much. It's become almost like a right-wing thing to celebrate motherhood, right? And then there's what they call the crone, the older woman, post-menopausal, who's absolutely... pivotal in our society.
If you think about anyone having a crisis, just a woman comes from nowhere in her 50s or 60s and makes you a cup of tea and takes care of you. It's like it's an incredibly, that grandmother figure is so important in our culture, in our society. And it's not celebrated enough, I don't think.
No. Well, I had a bit in one of my specials back in the day about my mom. My mom actually did say this. She voted for Hillary Clinton because she said, you know, I just want a woman to be president. And I said, you already make all the people. You make all the people. There's 8 billion people, all of them made by women. I go, you want to be president too? You fucking greedy bitch.
I'm like, what else do you want? All the money? You want a bigger dick? What do you want? You want everything? We don't celebrate the craziest thing, which is women make human life. Without them, it is not possible for any of us to be here. And that is almost like inconsequential. It's like you're not even... We don't even talk about it.
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Chapter 5: How does the educational system impact societal mobility?
I think like beauty is a really interesting thing, right? So you see someone and they're born beautiful. Margot Robbie and you might go, oh, yeah, she's Barbie. She's gorgeous. It's easy for her. But when you look at Oppenheimer, you don't see, well, that guy was born with an IQ of 160 and a work ethic. Now, work ethic is heritable, largely heritable, like 70% heritable. Really? Yeah.
And you don't just develop that? No, I don't think so. I mean, you develop some of it. And what you inherit, what you get in your factory settings when you come out, that's what it is. You can only work with the other stuff. So that's the interesting stuff.
Factory settings you think involve work ethic?
Yeah, I think so. I don't think so.
He's on it. My own life is a different example. You think your work ethic is... I think it's just I developed it, recognizing that it's valuable. And I think a lot of it I got from martial arts. Something like my parents didn't have a work ethic. Especially the physical stuff. No one in my house did anything physical. They didn't do any sports. Definitely didn't do any martial arts.
It wasn't inherited at all. And then the idea of pushing yourself. I learned from a young age that if you work harder than everybody else, you get better. It was just like simple math. And then it was also like.
So you use willpower rather than your.
Willpower is a funny word because it's it's really just knowing that there's a value in continuing to do things you don't want to do. And that there's a process and it's hard to see the process when you're in the middle of it because it sucks and you're tired and you don't want to keep doing this. It's hard to do. But if you recognize, oh, the more I do that, the better I get.
If you're an intelligent person, if you're an objective person and analyzes all the factors that are at play, you go, OK, what is the major factor here in terms of like getting better at a thing? Well, the major factor is work.
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Chapter 6: What is the impact of social media on mental health?
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When it got kind of famous in our culture was I think it was a birth of a royal baby in about 1910, something like that. And the London Evening Standard had, they'd ran out of things to say about a royal baby. That's cute. It's got, you know, it's got little baby fingers and baby toes. It's a Leo. And they did that.
Someone came in and went, oh, you know it was born here and it's the year of the rat and it's a Virgo and that means with Sagittarius rising. And they wrote the thing. And then they realized everyone is kind of self-obsessed and wants to read about themselves. So that's the one bit of the newspaper that's about you. Right. So naturally people are drawn to that. And it's like cold reading.
It's like the way that they word these things, you go, well, that could apply to anyone.
Right, but it does give you a nice chance to focus on you. What about me? What's going to happen with me? Yes, but what about me? The news? Who cares about Beirut? What about me? Yeah. I think that's the – in the human condition, that's going to be a big part of it. Of course. Of course. And that's how you sell newspapers.
I think the newspaper version of the horoscope is obviously nonsense, at least partially. I shouldn't even say obviously. But I think – I have not studied this and I'm not committed to this, but I do think the origins, the original origins of astrology –
were probably based on some sort of an ancient understanding of the different effects that different stars, when they're in alignment, have on the universe. And I think it's partially... Look... We know that the moon literally makes the tide go in and out. The gravity of the moon affects the water.
It makes the tide go in and out to the point where there's a high tide and a low tide mark at the beach.
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Chapter 7: What are the implications of AI on our society?
You hate to be the conspiracy theorist. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if you're familiar with your brand, but you are the conspiracy theorist.
At the time, I was like, wish he didn't smoke and wish he didn't drink. Now I'm like, God, I know a lot of people smoke and drink and they live forever. What the fuck's going on? Why did Christopher Hitchens die so young? But then again, why did Hicks die so young? Hicks died at like pancreatic cancer at like 33 or something.
Yeah, I don't think we can relate his death to pissing people off. No, no, no, of course not. Of course not, but it's fun to do. He was quite the writer. Oh, he's a genius. He was so- Hitch, 22. And there's a book that he wrote about politics, The Letters to a Young Contrarian. Oh my God. It's like, those bits of, it's amazing things kind of books when people write their autobiography.
And it's like, it just, it's a gift. It's just, you can feel like you know them.
Well, you can also imagine what would you do if you were living this person's life. You're going through all the various stages of their life. You're empathizing with them. You're seeing their struggles. You're seeing whatever they're going through. And you're like, wow, what would I do? Wow, that's great. Well, that's why he became this way. Oh, wow, that's amazing.
You learn a lot from other human beings when they're really open. They really let you in, which is one of the things I think reasons why we detest – People that are very manufactured and closed off. Like, you know, the newscaster that you're never going to, you don't know a damn thing about those people.
Isn't that why this works? Yeah, for sure. Because you go this format. There's nowhere to hide. It's three hours of conversation. You're going to talk about what you're going to talk about. It's going to come up. And it's this thing of it's authentic. And authenticity is what people crave. Oh, yeah, for sure. And it's playful. Yeah. And I think I mean, okay, this is my big theory on life.
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Chapter 8: How are institutions shaping culture and society?
I think play is like we don't Stop playing because we get old we get old because we stopped playing. Yes And in our job as George Bernard Shaw, I think said in first anyway, but he's wrong you get old no matter what He's full of shit.
You're gonna break a hip. Yeah, follow that guy's advice. You're gonna fucking roll your ankle for sure. I
Yeah, but maybe playing Twister when you're 70. Great. That's a good way to break a hip. But that thing of like going play is sort of in short supply. If you think about what anyone cares about, right? Like people talk about sports all the time. People talk about concerts and going to see music. People love seeing comedy and they love this kind of thing. But this is like play.
We're playing and sports is playing and theater is playing and comedy is playing and there's not enough play in life. And really, I always think of that thing like when I'm performing shows, like there's an illusion that it's me performing on stage. But actually, everyone in the room is performing. It's a performative thing seeing a show.
If you think about when you last saw, I don't know, Bruce Springsteen live. And Bruce Springsteen goes, how are you all doing? And the whole place goes, yeah. If in Starbucks someone goes, how are you doing?
Yeah.
Psychotic. You get kicked out. Right.
The audience is doing their part.
They're doing their bit. And especially like in our game, in comedy, it's a, because the feedback loop, everything is split tested. Everything is, how do you feel about that? And the one audience member, you know, anything about comedy and jokes.
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