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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2293 - Chris Williamson

Fri, 21 Mar 2025

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Chapter 1: Who is Chris Williamson and what is his background?

00:12 - 00:25 Joe Rogan

I took the glasses off. I was hoping you were going to keep them on. You want me to keep them on? You can pull them off. Some dudes can't pull off douchey glasses. You think these are douchey? A little bit if I didn't know you, but I know you. You're not douchey at all, so you can wear cool glasses.

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00:25 - 00:27 Chris Williamson

Well, these are requests by you, so I can wear what I want.

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00:28 - 00:29 Joe Rogan

You've been wearing them a lot. I like them.

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00:29 - 00:38 Chris Williamson

Yeah, yeah, I do. It's like having an Instagram filter for the entire world. Right. So everything feels... It's a little rosy. I had a pair of rose-colored glasses before, and I got it.

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00:00 - 00:00 Joe Rogan

I was like, oh, I get it.

00:00 - 00:00 Chris Williamson

It is better this way. It is nicer. Yeah, yeah. It's like a full... Dude, I need to show you this. Okay.

00:00 - 00:00 Joe Rogan

What is this?

00:00 - 00:00 Chris Williamson

I have a little open of that. So you'll remember that I sent you a photo on iMessage a couple of months ago. of a friend of mine who was in Antarctica.

Chapter 2: What is the controversy around flat earthers and Antarctica?

00:55 - 00:56 Unidentified

Yeah.

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00:56 - 01:10 Chris Williamson

And he flew a Comedy Mothership lighter out to Antarctica. I've been reliably told that that lighter was used to smoke weed in Antarctica. Yeah, and it's touched, it was dropped a number of times, so it's touched ancient permafrost.

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01:10 - 01:13 Joe Rogan

Fuck yeah. What kind of laws do they have in Antarctica?

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01:14 - 01:27 Chris Williamson

I don't know. Apparently liberal. Do they have any laws? Fuck knows. I don't know. There's nobody there. Have they established laws? They were 400 miles in. Whoa. So this was part of the final experiment, which was this attempt to try and disprove flat earth.

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00:00 - 00:00 Joe Rogan

Oh.

00:00 - 00:00 Chris Williamson

He went as a part of that.

00:00 - 00:00 Joe Rogan

Did he bring flat earthers? Is that the deal?

00:00 - 00:00 Chris Williamson

So four flat earthers, four globe-ies, globe-earthers, get flown to Antarctica. It's $35,000 per person. Oh, my God. This guy called Will Duffy put the project together, flew everybody down there.

00:00 - 00:00 Joe Rogan

Did he pay for each person? Yep, yep.

Chapter 3: What are the new discoveries about the Great Pyramid of Giza?

35:16 - 35:19 Joe Rogan

It's a fucking article in Newsweek.

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35:19 - 35:26 Chris Williamson

You ever think that your career would result in you having typos for a headline, Jamie? Newsweek. I don't even know which ones we've missed. I'm sure there's been other ones.

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35:28 - 35:28 Jamie

100%.

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35:28 - 35:31 Joe Rogan

What happens, it happens. People make mistakes. You're typing things in.

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00:00 - 00:00 Jamie

Yeah.

00:00 - 00:00 Joe Rogan

But the fact that it's an article that we're being called out for a typo. But it's just anything for clicks, man.

00:00 - 00:00 Chris Williamson

Slow week for news.

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Chapter 4: How does the media landscape affect independent creators?

66:32 - 66:37 Joe Rogan

I think that's a giant problem with our society is that light pollution keeps us from seeing that all the time.

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66:37 - 67:02 Chris Williamson

The mysterious hole in the universe that's billions of times larger than the Milky Way. So go one left, a list of voids, Jamie. Yeah, that one. Just big holes. Yeah. So you should not have, it should be more evenly distributed. And yeah, the Buettas void, you know, this huge lack. Yeah. In the middle of...

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67:03 - 67:13 Unidentified

It's so cool. Imagine you take a left turn on a spaceship and you fuck up. Fuck, not here, not the Boetta Supervoid, not again. God damn it. You can't land for 100 million years.

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67:13 - 67:24 Chris Williamson

Yeah. Dude, I had Matthew McConaughey on the show toward the back end of last year, and we talked about Interstellar's 10th year anniversary. That movie is still my favorite movie of all time.

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00:00 - 00:00 Joe Rogan

It's an amazing movie. I just saw it again a couple weeks ago. Me too. It was incredible. It's so good. It's so weird. Such a weird movie.

00:00 - 00:00 Chris Williamson

Nolan's a fucking king. He's a wizard. Everything that he does. What's the new one? What's his new movie?

00:00 - 00:00 Jamie

The Odyssey, I think.

00:00 - 00:00 Chris Williamson

Oh, yeah. What is The Odyssey?

00:00 - 00:00 Jamie

Like the Homer.

Chapter 5: What is the debate surrounding Ozempic and weight loss?

121:06 - 121:24 Chris Williamson

They turn around, and he's gone. Like, fuck, where's ammo gone? He skis for 63 miles on his own. Just skis away, doesn't really know what he's doing. He's in this sort of fever dream thing. Lays down, goes to sleep, wakes up the next day, no idea where he is. Doesn't know where his group is, doesn't know where the squadron is, doesn't know where he is.

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121:25 - 121:44 Chris Williamson

Immediately sees a Soviet soldier over the far side, raises his rifle, click. Fuck, they took my ammo. Hurls the rifle at this Soviet soldier and he explodes in a cloud of white dust. Turns out that it wasn't a Soviet soldier, it was a tree branch with snow on it, and that he's actually hallucinating. So he's in a full-on fever dream now.

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121:45 - 122:02 Chris Williamson

Imagine this Soviet soldier throws the gun at him, he explodes. He's like, fuck, okay, I need to find my squadron. How am I gonna get back to them? So he decides to just try and navigate around for a couple of hours, and he sees them over the far side. He sees a fire, and he sees his group over the far side. It's way far away, so he skis for another two hours.

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122:03 - 122:19 Chris Williamson

Turns out that it wasn't his squadron. It was more Soviet soldiers. So he just skis straight through the middle of the camp. All of these guys immediately chase after him. But there's no chance. He's the fucking LeBron James of meth, right? You're not catching this guy.

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00:00 - 00:00 Chris Williamson

So he goes straight through again, second night, finds a hut, finds a wooden cabin in the middle of the snow, decides to set a fire. But he doesn't set it in the fireplace. Sets it in the middle. of the wooden hut. And throughout the night, he sort of shuffles himself further and further away.

00:00 - 00:00 Chris Williamson

For some reason, his back's getting a little bit warm and he keeps on sort of shuffling himself further and further away. He wakes up the next morning on the outside of the hut and it's completely burned down. So he's burned the only bit, the only structure that was gonna give him any safety, he's managed to burn it to the ground. And as he wakes up again,

00:00 - 00:00 Chris Williamson

sort of may have noticed that this is a recurring theme, a wolverine attacks him, 65-pound wolverine, fucking fangs, yellow eyes, attacks him. So Amo uses his knife, kills this wolverine, fight to the death, kills it. But then he realizes, I don't have a knife because my soldiers took it from me. It was his compass, which was the only thing he could use to navigate himself.

00:00 - 00:00 Chris Williamson

He'd smashed his compass to bits. And then he looks down and it wasn't a wolverine. It was a tree log. So he smashed his compass on a tree log thinking it was a 65 pound Wolverine. He's still just deep, deep in the hole. Continues to ski around. He's trying to find someone, trying to find any way marker that he can. Now with no way to navigate, he's got no compass. He's got no weapon.

00:00 - 00:00 Chris Williamson

I mean, the rifle that's got no ammunition in it. And he finds a Soviet forward operating base. But you'll know this, a lot of the time when armies left these behind, they booby trapped the fuck out of them. They booby-trapped everything. So he walks onto the middle of the forward operating base, immediately gets exploded by a landmine. Foot gets blown.

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