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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2283 - Billy Corgan

Tue, 04 Mar 2025

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Billy Corgan is the lead singer of The Smashing Pumpkins and host of "The Magnificent Others" podcast. The Smashing Pumpkins' latest album, "Aghori Mhori Me," is available now.  www.smashingpumpkins.com This video is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/JRE Don’t miss out on all the action - Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up using dkng.co/rogan or with my promo code ROGAN. GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, (800) 327-5050 or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD).21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS).1 per new customer. $5+ first-time bet req. Max. $150 issued as non-withdrawable Bonus Bets that expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: sportsbook.draftkings.com/promos. Ends 3/16/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What is the intriguing story of Billy Corgan and Bill Burr's alleged brotherhood?

21.647 - 46.083 Billy Corgan

When it gets into the family and people I haven't talked to for 20 years... Then you have to break character and tell the truth? No, you know, the thing is... This is what's crazy. Okay. You want the whole setup story? Sure, sure, sure, sure. So where I take my podcast... He's in one of Howie Mandel's buildings and he has another building in this area.

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47.123 - 65.892 Billy Corgan

So I was working on something and I was supposed to go on Howie's show that day. And they said, Howie will meet you out in the street or something for whatever reason. So I go out in the street and the first thing Howie says to me when he sees me, he goes, here comes Bill Burr. And I go, you too? Like, do you know this story? And he said, no, I don't know about it. And I said, you know what?

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67.304 - 82.632 Billy Corgan

heck with it. I'm just going to tell it on your show, so don't ask me anymore. And I went on the show, and I told this story about how 10 years ago my stepmother came to me and said, do you know who Bill Burr is? I'd never heard of Bill, didn't know who he was, because I don't really consume much popular culture. I had no idea he was a famous comedian. He could have been the lawnmower guy.

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83.473 - 104.446 Billy Corgan

Looked up Bill. First thing I saw was like, oh my God, he looks just like Daddy. When I was 18 years old, at an IHOP on my 18th birthday, my father told me, you have a half-brother that I sired at the same time as you whose name is Bill. So suddenly these facts come together, my mother telling me these stories. I talked to my dad subsequently about it, and he was very cagey about it.

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104.966 - 128.278 Billy Corgan

And when I said, why won't you tell me where this person is or who this person is, he said, I'm trying to protect you. So when my stepmother had told me, it kind of made sense, like, well, if my half-brother is this super famous comedian... My dad, in a way, wouldn't want me to know because he wouldn't want me to feel like I was number two because Bill's so famous. I know it sounds crazy, right?

128.578 - 144.111 Billy Corgan

You think that's why he's trying to protect you? Well, I don't know. So fast forward to Howie saying something on the street. So I was like, you know what? I'm just going to say something. And I swear to God, hand on my heart, last time I was with you in California, I almost pulled you aside after we were on. And I was going to tell you the story because I knew you knew Bill.

144.751 - 149.014 Billy Corgan

And I was going to back channel see if there was anything to the story. From Bill's side.

149.355 - 149.815 Unknown Speaker

Wow.

149.895 - 168.524 Billy Corgan

So imagine seven, I think six or seven years since we talked on your show. Yeah, I don't even know. 2018, somebody said to me today. But so anyway, sorry to talk over you. But the point is, so here I am fast forward. I'm just sick of seeing memes of my face with Bill's. And so I just decide on a spur of the moment, you know. So Howie, of course, loves it.

Chapter 2: How did Billy Corgan's family background influence his life?

2125.997 - 2135.083 Billy Corgan

Because you ever get that, like somebody wants you to do their bar mitzvah or anything, you ever get those requests? No. I get those requests. Will you come do my bar mitzvah?

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2135.443 - 2136.324 Joe Rogan

Who won this one?

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2137.245 - 2139.526 Billy Corgan

Is that the rematch? Had to be Lewis, right?

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2140.126 - 2148.2 Joe Rogan

I would imagine. Oh, similar Letterman card. Similar card. Let's see if they robbed him twice. They gave it to him. All right.

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2148.76 - 2158.348 Billy Corgan

Yeah. Well, they got their rematch. No, you get this thing like, hey, will you come do my... Right, right, right. I wonder what Michael Buffer gets to show up somewhere. You know what I mean?

2158.368 - 2163.272 Joe Rogan

Yeah, it's probably like Saudi Arabia. They have him come over there and introduce someone's birthday.

2163.292 - 2164.153 Billy Corgan

Is it half a million?

2164.453 - 2167.956 Joe Rogan

Probably more. Depends. You know? I mean, like...

2168.877 - 2170.878 Billy Corgan

You know, in my business, we could become privates.

Chapter 3: What are Billy Corgan's thoughts on comedy and his experiences with comedians?

6544.411 - 6545.972 Billy Corgan

I think it was bag of nails or something it was called.

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6545.992 - 6547.013 Joe Rogan

He was like, what am I doing?

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6548.055 - 6567.182 Billy Corgan

And this is when people were spray painting on the walls in London, Clapton as God. And here shows up this guy who was on the Chitlin circuit, is what they used to call playing for Little Richard and the Isley Brothers. I mean, he was just in the backup band. And he shows up in England. Chaz Chandler, the bassist from the Animals, goes, this guy could be a star. Gets him a record deal.

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6567.222 - 6574.304 Billy Corgan

He shows up in England. And next thing you know, he's like, Hey Joe is the number one hit. And he's on TV. And it's like, I mean, imagine that.

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6574.765 - 6575.465 Unknown Speaker

Wow.

6575.865 - 6592.3 Billy Corgan

So, yeah, there are those people that's like, it's so shocking. Van Halen was the same way. I got to interview him once and sit in his studio for four hours. He would just play the guitar and you'd just be like, I don't understand how this is possible. You're doing inhuman things. And I know how to do what you do. And I can't even come close to doing what you're doing.

6593.581 - 6610.329 Joe Rogan

Shocking. It's always interesting too that people have a specific sound. Like you can hear them and you know who's playing the guitar. Like Stevie Ray Vaughan had a sound. Like you can hear him, like when he was doing Voodoo Child, you're like, oh, that's the Stevie version. Like he played music.

6610.349 - 6629.799 Billy Corgan

Do you play guitar at all? No. So the one thing I'll tell you, guitar player to non-guitar players, the thing you learned about the great guitar players, it's all in their hands. Everybody focuses on what amp, what guitar, the gear. Somehow it's the way they hit the strings. I couldn't even explain it to you.

6629.819 - 6630.94 Joe Rogan

They just have a different feel?

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