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Chapter 1: What is the backstory behind Domonique's racist cat?
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Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there.
That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching band to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.
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the owner of the team that Mike formerly loved, the Cleveland Browns. We're going to get him back. You're going to get him back? Oh, we're going to get him back. Jimmy Haslam came out, and it's a rare thing for the owners. And it's funny to juxtapose what Jimmy Haslam did with what Woody Johnson said at the same time.
But Jimmy Haslam took responsibility and said the buck stops with them essentially for the trade and signing of Deshaun Watson that hasn't worked out. The Woody Johnson quote was about the – the surveys that were done for the NFLPA and Woody Johnson's organization got an F from the players. And he essentially said, eh, what that tells me is that it's a little bit fishy.
I don't remember the exact terminology, but he said that it was kind of like. Totally bogus. Yeah, he said it's totally bogus rather than doing what's apparently, although there's some reason to argue that Jimmy Haslam is not a stand-up guy. In this situation, he stood up and said, that's on me. But he didn't let his wife off the hook. But that's on me.
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Chapter 2: Who is the best athlete among the hosts?
That's unbelievable. And so many quarterback drafts, we go through different things. And as we talk about the evolution of the league, we go through different things that we value when we're drafting. At one point, the thing that was most valuable or considered most value for a quarterback was his level of whiteness. No longer a deciding factor or it doesn't seem like a deciding factor.
Then we went into like accuracy was a thing at one point where you look for that more than anything else. Pocket presence. And now it seems like potential. Like potential is the word that gets you excited. And Cam Ward might be the best prospect for that because of what Charlie mentioned. Like he played in the wing tee. Then he went incarnate word.
And then he goes to Washington State and he gets better and better. And so you can see that he's already on a ridiculous trajectory, and coaches see that and get excited. They got so excited last year with Anthony Richardson, and he wasn't showing that trajectory. He just looked freaky out there. They were like, hey, we're going to figure it out.
And with Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson and guys like that, everyone thinks they're not going to have Trey Lance. They think they're going to get Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson.
And you know what? I also think Shador fits in that bucket as well. Now, obviously, there's conversation around Shador and they're like, oh, he's arrogant. Yes, he is a confident dude. Like he's the son of Deion Sanders. You know what I mean? I'm short. My dad is short. That's what that's how it works. You kind of get what you're given. But at the same time, he also went and performed at HBCU.
And I remember when he went to Colorado, people weren't like, oh, he's going to go here and crush. He's going to go in here and be one of the best quarterbacks in the nation. And he also did that as well. And so there's obviously a lot more factors around Shador and how he ended up at the FCS level.
But I will say I feel this, like, very similar to him than Cam Ward, that there's a trajectory there where they're all still climbing. I don't think it's been a plateau.
Is there any bias that you need to declare when talking about it? Because you got a lot of friends. What is that supposed to mean? I'm just saying that you're watching a different player than I'm watching. If that's your assessment, it's your door set. So I'm trying to figure out, you and Deion homies or what?
What the hell is this supposed to mean, man? I'm saying that you established yesterday. This was your strategy in game two? No. To start a rift with your teammates?
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Chapter 3: What are the NFL prospects of Cam Ward and Shador Sanders?
That was the same year where I had a producer at what was then called the Undefeated, now Anscape, who said that he could score a point on me in one-on-one basketball. No, it wasn't Tony. It was Monis and... No, it wasn't Monis. This is important, though.
We should really have popped down in who it was. Yes, undefeated producer Tony. That was our Tony.
It wasn't your Tony.
It was another guy. Just score one point against you? That doesn't seem that hard.
This is how it starts. This is how it starts. This is that type of disrespect. One point. Well played.
By accident, it could happen. I could just throw it over my head.
Not me. I wouldn't. I could score a point on Dom. He was taller than me, too, and he was like, I mean, I'll score one. And I was like, no, you won't. Like, I'll score 11 before you score one. And I was trying to explain to him the difference. Like, you're not faster than me. You're not stronger than me. You're not quicker than me. You will not get a good shot.
And, like, I'm not a great basketball player, but you're not going to get a good shot. You're going to have to hit a bad shot before I hit 11 shots. And, yeah, I beat him 11-0.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
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