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#BecauseMiami: The Miami of Yesterday is the America of Today

Fri, 07 Mar 2025

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Billy Corben is back with some more news that will most likely make you sad or angry. Julie K. Brown of the Miami Herald joins the program to talk about the embarrassing results that came from U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi releasing the Jeffery Epstein files. John Morales comes on to talk about the DOGE and Trump Administration's cuts to the workforce at NOAA. Plus....the City of Miami and its commissioners are uninsurable. Billy will give you a guess as to why that is. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What is the controversy surrounding the Epstein files?

00:47 - 01:01 Narrator

Attorney General Bondi says this is just phase one. She's promising to open the government files on Jeffrey Epstein. But despite the hype, most of what she released so far had been made public years ago. Attorney General Pam Bondi went on TV to trumpet the release of this material, teasing a big reveal.

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01:02 - 01:09

What you're going to see hopefully tomorrow is a lot of flight logs, a lot of names, a lot of information.

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01:09 - 01:26 Narrator

But much of the material had been circulating in the public domain for years, including pilot logs from Epstein's plane and his so-called black book of names and addresses. Several conservative media figures were given early access during a visit to the White House, showing off binders and posing for pictures, some later posting how underwhelmed they were.

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01:26 - 01:49 Laura Loomer

She knows that she's a liar. She knows that she's not releasing any information that's actually new in nature. It's just a bunch of propaganda. It's just a bunch of nonsense and red meat fodder to the base so that they can feel like our DOJ is less corrupt than the Biden DOJ. It's a big black eye. We were told that we were going to clean up the deep state. We're getting rid of the deep state.

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00:00 - 00:00 Laura Loomer

We're firing all the corrupt officials at the DOJ, you guys. We're cleaning house at the FBI. And now it's just business as usual. Like, we might as well just have the Biden appointees, Merrick Garland and Christopher Wray right now, right? Because, well, they didn't release the Epstein files. So what are we getting here? How is it any different so far than Christopher Wray and Merrick Garland?

00:00 - 00:00 Billy

That was the voice of Florida woman and right-wing influencer Laura Loomer having a MAGA meltdown over this, what was called a complete disappointment, a fraud, a nothing burger release of the long-promised... Epstein files much fanfare by Trump's new attorney general, Florida woman, Pam Bondi.

Chapter 2: Who is criticizing the release of Epstein files?

02:47 - 03:13 Billy

You have Representative Anna Paulina Luna, Florida woman, a congresswoman from Florida, saying this is not what we are. The American people ask for and a complete disappointment. You've got Trump supporters, including Loomer, fuming, demanding support. AG Pampani resign over this debacle. Steve Bannon calling it this Jeffrey Epstein file release a fiasco by the Trump DOJ.

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03:16 - 03:37 Billy

This is I got lots to say about this because I am as close to a public records absolutist as you can possibly find. Obviously, there needs to be redactions to protect victims or minors or national security. But otherwise, I think we're entitled to it all. And what was released here, as far as I can tell, is not only.

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03:38 - 03:55 Billy

material that has been previously available for a great number of years, but it was actually less than what was previously released because it was redacted and we had actually previously seen unredacted versions of some of the records that Pam Bondi released. Last week.

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03:55 - 04:20 Billy

So we're talking with Julie K. Brown, the famed investigative journalist from the Miami Herald, whose journalism ultimately led to, I guess I could say, the re-prosecution or ultimately the prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein, who had been kind of let off scot-free prior to her revisiting this case and bringing it all up again. Julie, am I on the right track here? Let's start there.

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00:00 - 00:00 Billy

What was actually, quote unquote, What was the what was the bombshell here from Pam Bondi in the long promised Epstein files?

00:00 - 00:00 Julie K. Brown

Well, the bombshell was that, you know, we have an attorney general that doesn't even understand the case file or the case that she's speaking about with on national television. I mean, she's she was saying days before that she had the so-called file on her desk. Well, this case is spanned 20 years. There is no way that it would fit into one file she could fit on her desk.

00:00 - 00:00 Julie K. Brown

Even if she put it in a computer file somewhere, some of those documents predate the time when probably a lot of these agencies even had them on a computer. So, you know, from the get go, I knew that. This was going to be this was going to blow up in our face. I knew it was going to blow up in our face.

00:00 - 00:00 Billy

And in fact, it did. And my real question is, though, are there any Epstein files? What I mean by that is I've got a lot of questions. God knows. I don't know if there's any documents out there that can answer those questions right now. This just it feels like government by and for the perennially online government.

00:00 - 00:00 Billy

Like this is sort of feeding, as Laura Loomer herself said, feeding like red meat to the base. But is there any material out there? It might not even be at the FBI. It might very well be in Palm Beach here in the state of Florida. Are there any quote unquote Epstein files out there?

Chapter 3: What are the details behind the Epstein investigation?

06:58 - 07:31 Julie K. Brown

where people are making up things like there's a client list that hasn't been released. There's, you know, as if there is some deep state that is has hidden all these secrets about, you know, people doing horrible crimes with children. I mean, it's been just so many stories out there that that don't even have any grounding in any kind of truth at all. So we have two aspects of the case.

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07:32 - 07:56 Julie K. Brown

And the aspect of the case that I try to focus on is the fact that there are files out there, FBI files. Some of them are right on the... fbi's website they have a place on their website a portal called the vault and they've had thousands of documents on there which anybody can click on and in those files it's a bunch of you know gibberish it's numbers it's

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07:56 - 08:22 Julie K. Brown

you know big giant white outs it's big giant blackouts it's uh it there's just nothing hardly anything that you can decipher from these files they're meaningless and uh there is a lawyer who has been working for radar online for probably about at least eight years trying to get the fbi to unredact these files. And he's been, you know, it's just been going nowhere.

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08:23 - 08:43 Julie K. Brown

The Justice Department keeps making up different reasons why they don't want to, you know, unredacted. So it's valid to get some of these records. Other agencies, by the way, have records of the Department of Homeland Security, which was responsible for monitoring who was on his plane when he came in from overseas. Those documents I've requested and they're all redacted.

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00:00 - 00:00 Julie K. Brown

So there are many files that that should be released at this point. But do we have files that list the names of all his so-called clients? I highly doubt it. I just don't think they exist. I've never heard anybody in the DOJ, the FBI, all the lawyers, you know, dozens and dozens of lawyers, all the victims, hundreds of victims. I don't think anybody has heard

00:00 - 00:00 Julie K. Brown

that there exists something called the client list. So it's a lot of misinformation that still has some element of truth to it in the sense that there are documents out there that should be released.

00:00 - 00:00 Billy

Yeah, I was wondering, we know that this man is a, was, An evil, grotesque, serial sex predator, not an outright pedophile. I do wonder like how much Pizzagate is here. You know, when you read some of the shit online and you're like, let's go after the truth. And it's important. I'm a born skeptic. I ask questions for a living. I encourage everybody to to ask questions.

00:00 - 00:00 Billy

But when you get answers, you have to face facts and you have to accept facts. reality at some point. And that was the big question, of course. Is there the term client list?

00:00 - 00:00 Billy

We heard I remember the term little black book when Gawker first released the phone book, which was one of the pieces of of evidence in phase one here that Pam Bondi released last week, something we had all seen unredacted, which now she has released redacted, which, again, is less information than we actually had before. And it was a phone book.

Chapter 4: Why are NOAA cuts causing concern?

17:27 - 17:58 Billy

Finally, got rid of these goddamn deep state unelected bureaucrats. who just do nothing but waste our tax dollars and sit around and let me check my notes, offer severe weather outlooks, help gauge the impact of climate change, provide information for our farmers to use daily, monitors our oceans, the health of our fisheries, also fire. I think a lot of what they do helps us survive. What?

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17:58 - 18:58 Billy

It is? There are deliberate inefficiencies built into certain systems, and that is by design. It's to help with accountability. It's to ensure a lack of fraud, waste and abuse. It's designed in a way to that. It's not necessarily designed to be so. But it's designed to make sure we get things right. And it's designed to make sure we offer assistance in public health and safety.

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18:58 - 19:23 Billy

And this is a conversation we started last year with John Morales, who is an honorary member of the American Meteorological Society and a meteorological consultant and hurricane specialist for NBC6 here in Miami. And he warned us. Last year, we had talked about some of the impact of Sharpie-based hurricane predictions and meteorology.

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19:23 - 19:50 Billy

We talked about this idea of vilifying people at NOAA and the National Weather Service and NASA. Now, those fears and concerns and that vilification is policy. And we've got about 800 people, I think, estimated about 5% of the workforce and counting, obviously, got dozed, since that's a verb now. John, first, your initial reaction to this news.

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00:00 - 00:00 John Amaechi

Oh, very alarming. Very alarming, because... You know, when you look at the weather enterprise in the US, everything the enterprise does, whether it's in academia or in the private sector, which includes newsrooms and broadcast meteorologists, or, of course, the government sector, everything hinges on the scaffolding that's been built around NOAA and the National Weather Service.

00:00 - 00:00 John Amaechi

So when you take a sledgehammer to that three-legged stool, the stool won't stand. It's going to fall. It is alarming and disconcerting to everybody in the profession. I don't know of a single meteorologist out there or hydrologist or climatologist, climate scientist, oceanographer, all the related sciences. I don't know of anyone who is not alarmed and appalled by this approach.

00:00 - 00:00 John Amaechi

uh which which has been anything but surgical it's the opposite uh you know just taking a sledgehammer to it and to the detriment of the american people uh because at the end of the day it's not just so i mean the the most important thing is the mission of saving lives and property right so that is being hindered and when you when you're talking about government services like you just did billy you know it's about the welfare of the people i mean if there's one job

00:00 - 00:00 John Amaechi

That government has is the safety and welfare of the population and the education and so on and so forth. So these services are essential. But so that's being degraded by these moves. But on top of that...

00:00 - 00:00 John Amaechi

you know how much of the american economy is impacted by weather the vast majority of it so we're talking you know two-thirds or more of our gdp is impacted in one way shape or form by weather no wonder noah and the national weather service are inside the department of commerce right lies are being put at risk Property damage is likelier now because of these moves.

Chapter 5: What is the impact of reduced NOAA workforce?

23:53 - 24:15 John Amaechi

We had a ton of tornadoes, is my point here. And when we had all these tornadoes, what do we need the most to be able to see where the tornadoes are, how they're evolving and where they're moving and how to properly warn people? We need radars. If the radars are broken down, we can no longer track tornadoes and can no longer warn people. You're subtracting people from this workforce.

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24:16 - 24:25 John Amaechi

So those are two examples, satellites and radars within observations. Let's think about that. Now, what about modeling?

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24:26 - 24:49 John Amaechi

Modeling is where we use the equations that define the behavior of the atmosphere, plug in everything that's going on right now in the atmosphere and what's going on in the past few days, plug it all in, let the equations work through it through computers, very powerful computers, and come up with a model of the atmosphere going forward. These models have improved so much

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24:50 - 25:17 John Amaechi

that our seven-day forecasts these days are as good as our three-day forecasts used to be just a couple or three decades ago. That's how good our forecasting has become. When these researchers are laid off, fired, you were losing the ability to continue to improve our models so that that type of improvement that we saw in the seven-day forecast can continue going forward.

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00:00 - 00:00 John Amaechi

And that's the mundane, everyday, you know, see it on TV forecast. But think of what else models do. Models help define or forecast what the future track of a hurricane is going to be. How good have we gotten at that? Pretty darn good, I want to tell you. Just this last year, National Hurricane Center had the best year of forecasting the track of hurricanes.

00:00 - 00:00 John Amaechi

Intensity forecasts still have some challenges. We're still trying to get better there. But how else do we learn to better forecast the intensity of hurricanes? We send hurricane hunters into the hurricanes to gather all this scientific data that we need. You know who got fired? Some of the mission commanders, some of the mission scientists for NOAA's hurricane hunter aircraft are gone.

00:00 - 00:00 Billy

Less than three months before the start of hurricane season.

00:00 - 00:00 John Amaechi

right so that means potentially this very season less hurricane hunter aircraft going in to see what's going on with hurricanes less monitoring means worse forecasting so i mean that's just the observation side i haven't even talked about research haven't even talked about the actual issuing of the watches and the warnings which is done by national weather service folks who were already spread thin

00:00 - 00:00 John Amaechi

These were offices that, you know, you had managers, the chief of the office, having to work, you know, midnight shifts because they don't have enough personnel to be able to carry the office going forward. So they were already thin-staffed. And now, even more so, the stress is increasing. And I think warnings... are going to be degraded in quality and timeliness.

Chapter 6: How are weather predictions affected by budget cuts?

28:11 - 28:39 John Amaechi

You know, Billy, so since you're talking hurricanes, let me go ahead then and dispel this belief that is out there, especially in some of the darker places of the web, like X, right? Stormfront 4chan? Right. So, you know, I've seen out there the piece, you know, some people are saying, well, you know, what do I need NOAA on the National Weather Service for? You know, I've

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28:40 - 29:05 John Amaechi

I've got John Morales or, you know, insert name here of whoever the local favorite broadcast meteorologist happens to be. Well, I can't do my job without Noah on the National Weather Service. I am oftentimes the voice of the National Weather Service. And fine. I mean, I know. Over the years, I've editorialized forecasts quite a bit.

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29:05 - 29:19 John Amaechi

I've given my opinion, yay or nay, on a National Weather Service or a National Hurricane Center forecast. And I guess that's what makes me me. But they are my vocal cords. I mean, you know, I've got no voice without them.

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29:21 - 29:46 John Amaechi

This whole scaffolding example that I spoke at the beginning, where everything depends on what NOAA and the National Weather Service provide the private sector in terms of observations, in terms of modeling, in terms of research. Not just not John Morales, you know, can't properly do his job. Neither can AccuWeather. Neither can the Weather Channel, right?

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00:00 - 00:00 John Amaechi

And neither can those crap apps that people seem to like, which depend on... the modeling that NOAA and the National Weather Service provide. Granted, unfortunately, the reason the maps are so bad is because there is no human element in what you're looking at in an app.

00:00 - 00:00 John Amaechi

It's just going straight to a model, extracting a single point forecast and trying to give that to you seven days out at 1 p.m., which is ridiculous for you to think that you can get a forecast for a specific time of the day seven days out. But I would say it's User mistake is the way they apply these apps instead of realizing that there's better ways to get your weather.

00:00 - 00:00 Billy

If you want to make meteorology great again, you know, there was a time when we did not have radars. We did not have meteorologists. We did not have the science and the knowledge to understand when a hurricane was coming. And when you'd reach the eye of the storm, people thought the storm was over and had passed us by. And so you have 30 minutes of calm or whatever it may be.

00:00 - 00:00 Billy

And everybody sort of goes out to take stock. And, of course, you have destruction of property. You've got projectiles lying in wait all over the ground. And people would die because, of course, the back end of the – they were only halfway through the storm at that point. That was – people were, I suppose, blissfully ignorant. But then they were also f***ing dead.

00:00 - 00:00 Billy

And so the science matters and it does. It is public safety. It does save lives. And quick kind of like hypothetical or scenario before we go. Like, what is your fear this hurricane season, which we are mere months away? What is your fear if this is just happening? Phase one here of layoffs at NOAA and NWS.

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