Relive your favorite battles in the culture wars. Take a listen to some of The Daily Show's conversations with outspoken conservatives over the years. Jon Stewart and Bill O'Reilly debate the concept of white privilege. Trevor Noah and Tomi Lahren discuss how social movements like Black Lives Matter are defined by their followers. Former colleagues in the senate Al Franken and Lindsey Graham try to find common ground. Finally, Jon and Ann Coulter get into it. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chapter 1: What is white privilege and how is it defined?
But imagine growing up knowing that you as an American, as a GI who fought in World War II, couldn't buy into that because you were less.
It was unfair. You were not good enough. It was unfair. And the residue of that continues today, and that is white privilege. All right. If you want to say it's white privilege because whites didn't have it as bad as blacks, fine. But that's not what's happening here in contemporary society. Yes, it is! No, it's not. If you, let me repeat this and I'll do it slowly. All right.
So even you can understand. All right, all right. If you work hard, if you get educated, if you're an honest person, you can make it in America.
If you live in a neighborhood where people are, poverty is endemic, it's harder to work hard.
It's harder to get an education. Hey, it was harder for me than it was for the white guy in Garden City. It's all relative. Yes, it's harder if you're a ghetto kid. Yes. But can you do it? Yes.
Yes, you can. So what I don't understand is why so defensive about it? Why is it that white people get so defensive about this? I'm not saying that life isn't hard. Middle class white guys that are working hard to do what they can and they look and they go, I'm not getting any privilege. That's not what we're talking about. What we're talking about is... a group of people that were brought here.
They didn't choose to immigrate here to get that better life. And just acknowledge that our country's had a problem with that.
People acknowledge that who are fair-minded. But you don't then take that and then condemn the modern society.
You know what I'll call it? I'll call it this, and it's a word I think you'll understand. A factor.
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Chapter 2: What are the arguments for and against white privilege?
Do you really believe you're criticizing and you're not malintentioned when you say things like Black Lives Matter is the new KKK? Because you realize Black Lives Matter can't be the new KKK. The KKK is still around. They have not vacated their premises. And most importantly, to say Black Lives Matter is the new KKK is to really, really minimize what the KKK did and what they stand for.
That is not the same thing. Surely you understand the incendiary feeling of your comments. You know that, surely.
It's controversial, but I think there are some things that need to be said. And when the Black Lives Matter movement is going out with signs saying, fry them like bacon, F the police, when they're going out seeing if you see a white person target them, that is happening, Trevor. That happened in Milwaukee not too long ago. That is happening.
So when that now becomes the narrative and you're starting to loot, burn, and riot, what did the KKK do?
That is not, look, we'll go around in circles. Did you say what did the KKK do?
No. What did they do? When you're saying, listen, listen, Trevor. Trevor, when you're saying, when there are people in the street saying if you see a white person beat their ass, does that not sound reminiscent of the KKK or their motives to you?
Is that the narrative of Black Lives Matter or are there people who are saying that within a crowd of other human beings? There is a distinction between a movement and the people. That is something that we keep coming back to. But let's go back to what you were saying on Colin Kaepernick and the national anthem. This is something I don't understand.
And when I watch your videos, I go, I truly do not understand. You say Colin Kaepernick is exercising his First Amendment rights and you are exercising your First Amendment rights in criticizing him. So what you are saying is you have the right to say anything you want, so shut up.
No, not at all. I'm saying I don't agree with what he did. I think that he went about it the wrong way. I don't think he understands. What is the right way?
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Chapter 3: How does the Asian experience compare to the Black experience in America?
It's a very- So how do you, no, no. How do you protest then?
I don't protest because I'm not a victim.
I guess we can go back and forth on a lot of these issues. It's an interesting place to be in because honestly, you've won. Your side has won, as you say. The liberal snowflakes are melting in the streets as they protest. And now I would like to know from your side, genuinely, as someone who's won, do you believe that Donald Trump will follow through on his promises?
I will be a vocal opponent if he doesn't. I am not somebody that gets on the cheerleading bandwagon. If he does something I disagree with, I will discuss it. I did before I was a Trump supporter. I was critical of Trump. I was a Marco Rubio girl for a long time. And then I started to see that was going to be our nominee and I said, it's him or Hillary. A lot of Americans were in that position.
And then I got closer to the campaign and I started seeing some of the things he was saying and I started seeing the effect he was having on people and the things that he was saying that was touching people and making them feel like they... He was touching people. Yeah, he was.
He really was.
Hillary could use some of that every now and then, right? Bill's a little busy.
Bill's a little busy. I appreciate you being on the show. Thank you so much for being here.
My guest tonight is the senior senator from South Carolina with whom I served in the United States Senate. Please welcome Senator Lindsey Graham. Well, thanks for coming, man. This is what happens, right? I'm hopeful we'll find some common ground. There's always hope. Well, we were friends. Yes, we were. Well, there's been a strain on it.
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