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The Daily Show: Ears Edition

America's "Hot Felon" Obsession and the Fox Nation Patriot Awards

Wed, 11 Dec 2024

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Michael Kosta tackles the arrest of Luigi Mangione, the suspected United Healthcare CEO assassin, and with help from Ronny Chieng, unpacks America's crush on the "hot felon." Desi Lydic and Troy Iwata see who won big at Fox Nation's coveted Patriot Awards. Interior Secretary Deb Haaland joins to discuss her work protecting the country's public lands and preserving the nation's cultural history. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chapter 1: What happened with Luigi Mangione?

127.67 - 140.052 Desi Lydic

According to court records, the suspected killer had 3D printed ghost gun on him, several fake IDs, $8,000 in cash and a three page handwritten manifesto.

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140.773 - 160.823 Michael Kosta

OK, OK, that's a lot of evidence. That's a lot of evidence. What else did they find on him? Was he wearing a T-shirt that said, I shot a CEO and all I got is this lousy T-shirt? Also, are they sure that New Jersey ID was fake? I feel like if your name is Luigi Mangione, you're born with a New Jersey ID. It just slides out with you like the placenta, but...

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165.23 - 192.473 Michael Kosta

But we can't give all the credit to the Altoona police just because they caught him. Because the NYPD, well, they did their part, too. They were scouring the city for days. They were looking in the bushes. They looked on some other bushes. Here they're standing on a rock. Hey, should I look in that bush? Eh, you know, f***, I don't want to do that stuff again. New York's finest.

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192.493 - 193.173 Michael Kosta

Don't get me wrong.

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Chapter 2: What evidence was found against Luigi Mangione?

194.094 - 205.202 Unknown Speaker

They didn't spend the whole time barely looking in the bushes. The breakthrough in the case came as police divers continued to search a lake in New York's Central Park for items dumped by the assassin.

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205.922 - 230.519 Michael Kosta

Great work. Great work. They're like, hey, you guys looking for the killer? We're going to see if he wished on any lucky pennies down here. Hey, did the killer use a gun? Because we found 5,000 of them down here. So now that we know who the suspect is, it's time for society to indulge in its favorite pastime, obsessing over every detail about this guy's life like he's a K-pop idol.

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231.089 - 236.514 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Mingione comes from a prominent Maryland family, which owns multiple country clubs in the state.

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236.734 - 244.26 Unknown Speaker

He was valedictorian at his graduation from a $40,000 a year private school with a carnation in his buttonhole.

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267.897 - 270.098 Troy Iwata

Thank you.

271.778 - 291.47 Michael Kosta

That didn't get the response I anticipated, but that's okay. It's surprising that he comes from such a privileged background. He's not really the kind of guy you'd expect to become a murderer. I mean, I expect him to crash the housing market, but not kill a guy. So we know he was privileged. He was apparently smart. But were there any other clues that something might be going wrong?

291.974 - 312.463 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

He spent time in Hawaii at a co-living space during 2022 and 2023. And two people who knew Mangione during that time say that he was dealing with frequent back pain due to an injury. One added that Mangione started a book club, but several members left due to discomfort over what he chose to read.

312.943 - 321.207 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

An online book review from January of this year, apparently written by Mangione, praises some of the writings of the Unabomber Ted Kaczynski.

321.787 - 349.845 Michael Kosta

You know, this is a classic mistake. You never want to start your book club with the Unabomber. I mean, you kick it off with some Sally Rooney, then a little Jonathan Franzen, then when everybody's like, we're so f***ing bored. That's when you hit them with the mail bomb stuff, okay? But if you're looking for something that will make you a hit with your book club, try this one. Lucky Loser.

Chapter 3: Why is America obsessed with the 'hot felon'?

706.731 - 733.862 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Uh, yeah, they will. That's how hotness works, Michael. I mean, just look at Jesus, okay? Would we still be talking about him today if he looked like Rudy Giuliani? Nah, I don't think so. I mean, the fact is, America is obsessed with image, and images in our society can dictate public opinion. And while we wait to hear about the suspect's motive... People are mentioning his history of health.

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733.882 - 754.717 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Stop laughing at this. Why am I in that photo? Why am I 400 pounds? Why am I covered in chili? This sucks. Michael, it's not personal, okay? It's just a comparison. It just makes me look harder, okay? But like I was saying, there was a manifesto, and Mangione does seem to have a serious problem with the health. No, no, that's, no. Ronnie, dude.

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755.458 - 762.969 Michael Kosta

What? Why do I, I mean, what? Ronnie. Ronnie. Why do I have a thought bubble that says I pee sitting down?

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763.429 - 778.994 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

And you're not even in that photo. This sucks. Yeah, of course I'm not in the photo. Why would I associate myself with a loser who pees sitting down? Get out of here, Ronnie. Ronnie Chang, everyone. When we come back, we find out who won awards season, so don't go away. I don't pee sitting down.

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798.129 - 805.689 Michael Kosta

Welcome back to The Daily Show. It's awards season in Hollywood, so let's get all the latest in another edition of Who Won It Best?

817.914 - 837.673 Desi Lydic

Welcome to Who Won It Best, where the only thing better than an award show is talking about an award show. And tonight, we're covering all the glitz and glam and hot goss from America's greatest award show. to Fox Nation and the sixth annual Patriot Awards.

838.855 - 849.065 Desi Lydic

That's right, the Fox Nation Patriot Awards, the very real award show where Fox honors the Patriots brave enough to share a room with Jesse Waters.

850.406 - 862.731 Unknown Speaker

It's like the Oscars for people who want to firebomb the Oscars. And who better to lead it than the master race of ceremonies himself, Sean Hannity. A little bit of a wardrobe change if you haven't noticed.

862.751 - 867.213 Unknown Speaker

As long as I'm going to be called garbage, I might as well wear the garbage vest, right?

Chapter 4: What are the details of the Fox Nation Patriot Awards?

1067.026 - 1094.354 Troy Iwata

This is quite a group. I have so many friends sitting there. You have incredible people at Fox. You have incredible people at every level of Fox. No day off, no play, no golf, no nothing. I didn't want to... And Justin came flying right in. Well, that chart showed we had the best immigration, the lowest number of people, and made America great again.

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1094.394 - 1109.333 Desi Lydic

There's no need to feel down. The band simply won't play him off because he is too captivating. Also, he'll stick the FBI on their families. Isn't that fun? It's so fun.

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1109.833 - 1111.454 Unknown Speaker

It's so fun.

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1111.494 - 1114.936 Desi Lydic

By the way, Troy, did you get your fabulous Patriot Award swag bag?

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1115.056 - 1120.24 Unknown Speaker

Yes, I did. It's a bottle of surplus InfoWars prostate support. Yum. Oh.

1121.04 - 1124.543 Desi Lydic

Oh, what I wouldn't give to have a prostate right now.

1124.563 - 1125.663 Unknown Speaker

It's so fun.

1126.364 - 1137.191 Desi Lydic

I bet. I bet it is. Anyway, those are all the highlights from the 2024 Fox Nation Patriot Awards. I can't wait to see what they have in store next year.

1137.211 - 1141.273 Unknown Speaker

How are they going to top Glenn's story from Patriot Mobile?

Chapter 5: Who were the winners at the Patriot Awards?

1309.7 - 1328.954 Michael Kosta

That's amazing. Yeah. Um, one of the duties that you've taken on as secretary is trying to right some historical wrongs. many of which have been done under the guise of the Department of the Interior. Tell me about that journey. What has that been like?

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1329.675 - 1347.032 Deb Haaland

Yes, yes. The department that I now lead once had the job of working to assimilate Indians, moving Native Americans out of their communities, away from their families to assimilate them into mainstream society.

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1347.052 - 1374.804 Deb Haaland

And one of the ways they did that was to essentially steal children from their mothers, fathers, families, communities, and ship them off, sometimes thousands of miles away from their homes, to attend Indian boarding schools. And so when I got to the department, we thought about what can we do to make a difference in the future of our native communities across the country.

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1375.384 - 1397.071 Deb Haaland

One of the ways was to be honest about our country's history. It's a history that not a lot of people, not a lot of Americans realize, right? When they think of boarding school, they think about sending their kids to a really nice East Coast boarding school. This was a place where they cut their hair, burned their clothes.

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1397.332 - 1399.112 Michael Kosta

They were punished for speaking in their native language.

1399.152 - 1421.969 Deb Haaland

Punished for speaking their native languages and they couldn't practice their cultures or traditions. And they were forced to eat food that they weren't used to, right? Traditional food is important, right? Of course, yeah. where you are geographically in the United States. And so we wanted to bring attention to that. We wrote two reports.

1423.291 - 1448.29 Deb Haaland

Our team researched, you know, they read 103 million pages of documents to put these reports together. And then we set out across the country and did what we call the road to healing. And we heard directly from descendants and actual survivors of the boarding school, the Indian boarding schools. And that's going to be an oral history at some point. We're working on that now.

1448.67 - 1460.478 Michael Kosta

So it's the type of history that I'm embarrassed I don't know more about. So then I'm afraid to ask about it. And then the cycle happens and continues. And what does atonement look like?

1461.519 - 1465.401 Deb Haaland

Yes. So don't be afraid to ask. OK, because that's how you learn.

Chapter 6: What did Donald Trump say during his acceptance speech?

1523.49 - 1532.799 Deb Haaland

And so that's what we're doing with our oral history project, making sure that folks have the opportunity to hear directly from those survivors and know what it was like.

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1533.239 - 1537.643 Michael Kosta

We as people are so afraid to apologize in every capacity, but it can be helpful.

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1538.364 - 1548.073 Deb Haaland

Absolutely. Yes, you should. You know, we should be humble in the way we lead our lives. And when you're wrong, you should apologize, of course.

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1549.373 - 1569.306 Michael Kosta

Someone described you, maybe it was on your team, but I read it somewhere, that you never fight, but you always win. And I was like, that's some Jedi mind shit right there. What is your philosophy in handling people or difficult situations or confrontations?

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1569.506 - 1598.448 Deb Haaland

Well, I think that came from when I ran my congressional campaign. And so it's, yes, I mean, Tell people what you're about, right? Tell people what they're voting for, not what they're voting against. So it's caring about people. It's showing them what you want to do for them. That's all on the campaign side. On this side of the table, working as a federal employee,

1599.468 - 1623.529 Deb Haaland

It's it's yes, it's being vulnerable. It's it's really appreciating. It's it's admitting that, you know, you're not the end all be all. I lead the Department of the Interior, but I have sixty five thousand federal employees, public servants every day come to work ready to dedicate their careers to the American people. And so I give them the credit as much as I can.

1623.709 - 1650.952 Michael Kosta

And I yeah. It's beautiful to hear that. Also, I listen to that, and there's a tragic thought of the new administration and what's coming. And I feel like it'll be a different philosophy. How do you handle a new administration coming and one that appears on the exterior to be significantly different?

1651.672 - 1676.038 Deb Haaland

Sure. Well, of course, we are responsible, and we are moving forward with the transition, right? I knew you were going to say that. It's helping. President Biden wants a transition that is calm and collected and all of that. So we're going to do our best to make sure that whoever comes into the Department of the Interior knows what we're working on.

1677.258 - 1696.449 Deb Haaland

You know, we can tell them what's meant a lot to us and how we've managed the department. But don't forget, there will still be 65,000 career staff there who don't leave when I leave. And they will continue to do the really wonderful work that they have been doing for decades and decades.

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