The Charlie Kirk Show
AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
Fri, 20 Dec 2024
It's Day 2 of AmericaFest and the fun is just getting started. Glenn Beck joins Charlie to discuss the 2024 miracle and why he's never been so optimistic about America. Beck and Charlie talk about making Elon Musk House speaker, the day-one agenda for the Trump admin, and whether the radical left will attempt to assassinate Trump again. Charlie also talks to former ESPN host Sage Steele about embracing her faith against a hostile world. Josh McKoon explains how the grassroots flipped Georgia red again, and Chloe Cole talks about her detransition journey.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I'm not sucking up to Charlie because I just said this to him on my show. This guy holds a lot of the responsibility of the win. A lot of the credit comes to Charlie and what you've built. You're fantastic.
I will do better receiving that, but it's the Turning Point team that deserves the credit. They worked so hard this cycle.
If it wasn't for Turning Point, I'm not sure that it would have... If it wasn't for Elon Musk... Quite honestly, the Democrats and how stupid they are and all their stupid mistakes. Elon Musk, you and an assassin. I'm not sure we would be here. I mean, you remember we were in.
florida it was like out of a movie glenn it was when it was like a year a year ago it was january of this last year okay and we were we were at some convention or something and uh we found ourselves in a hotel room with a bunch of people and one of us said can we can we talk and so we went out on the balcony and it really was one of us said at the time
Can you believe we're even having this conversation? It's like we're living in some weird movie. But we talked and we were talking about the things that we think are coming that we have to really prepare for. And one of them, the first one, we both said almost at the same time, they're going to try to kill Trump. They're going to assassinate him if they can. And they did. But.
Every real American saw that happen and went, I don't care which side he's on. We cannot be those people. We were this close to civil war. If they would have won, I think we would have gone into civil war. I really do. And God stepped up and stepped in, protected him. And gave us another shot.
It's amazing. It's amazing. And Glenn, when we were chatting before, we asked the question, is God done with this country? Yeah. And it's so humbling to say, no, he's not. And I joked around with you before we got on air. I have to check myself because I'm getting almost too optimistic in a sense. Like we're always so kind of like the sky is falling. Things are terrible.
Is it possible we're entering a golden era that an American Renaissance is underway?
Oh, it's absolutely possible. I think, Charlie, you've listened to me since you were a little kid. For 14 years. Right. I'm never positive about things. I'm always like, okay, here's how it's going to go wrong. The Titanic is going to sink, and we're all aboard. I haven't been optimistic like this since probably 2000, 2001, before the World Trade Center came down.
We've been given another chance, and let's stop forcing our will and our way on things. If Donald Trump would have won...
in 2020 we wouldn't know all of the things that we know now we wouldn't know how deep this thing went i just want to interrupt you everyone here is applauding the fact we didn't take power in 2020 yes and that that is the sign of a very mature movement here yes not a bitter one not a scorned movement but a movement that looks back and says in romans 12 2 god will use all things for good for those who love him
And at the time in 2020, we were like, this country is over. It's terrible. And it was terrible. But God knew what he was doing to strengthen our movement to make this term. Because, Glenn, I don't know if that term would have been that good. Oh, it wouldn't have been this. No. It wouldn't be what's coming.
Because he didn't know. Right. Tulsi, Bobby, nothing. Yes. Now he has independents and some Democrats who are just looking at their Democratic Party and going, what the hell is that?
i don't want anything to do i'm not like them they're now part of it and i think you'll agree with me trump has changed he took when he took office i'm not sure when he came down the escalator he really thought he could win you know what i mean i don't know when he got when he won he wasn't like wow that's kind of a surprise to me i'm now the president um and uh and so he wasn't
prepared not that he didn't do his homework he had never been a politician he's not a swamp monster he doesn't he didn't know he told me this just the other day i didn't know what it took to be the president of the united states and then he leaned in and he said but now i do and he's taken these four years and he's had time to be able to go
This person, this agency, this group, this money all gone. And he's now I mean, he told me he has a 12 year plan. I like to say that because then all the liberals are like, see, I told you he was just going to never give up the presidency. But no, he's got J.D. Vance. He's planning on serving two terms after. Do we like J.D., everybody? And that shows maturity on his part as well.
I don't know in 2020 if he was thinking Mike Pence can carry on, but he picked this vice president to pick up right where he left off because he is, if he can accomplish even half of what he says he wants to accomplish, if he can do it, He's going to undo everything Woodrow Wilson and FDR did to our country. He'll be remembered. He will be remembered at least like FDR.
He will be greater than Reagan if he did. And that is something I never thought I'd say about anybody. He'll be greater than that. And he might actually end up in the category of. I think he is. If anybody watched me on Fox for a while, I was talking about we need the refounders. Where are the refounders?
The ones that will not just say we're going back to the old days with candles, but people who said we've got to go back to the Constitution. But it's a new situation here. But these principles and this Constitution is valid. We need refounders. He is the refounder I think we've been looking for.
Glenn, what did the four years in exile... mean for you? What was it for four years? Because everyone has a story. For us, it was our back against the wall. We found out who we were truly made of. What was it for you personally? And by exile, I mean this four years, displaced from power, a lot of confusion, not sure what was happening.
I had to replace underwear all the time because I was crapping my pants all the time. I mean, the stuff we were up against, I really thought, you and I have talked about this, if they would have won... None of this would have been happening. We would have been out of business. You would have been out. Not because people weren't going to listen or want the information.
But they would have taken us out. They would have taken us out. One way or another, the voices would not be heard. And we were at that place. The question is... Are we the people that deserved the second chance from God? I don't think we are. I don't think we are either. So now he stepped in. He did the things that we couldn't do.
But now he's looking down at us and going, will you finally do the things that you can do? You've shown me enough that I can say, all right, you're moving in the right direction. I'm going to give you more time. But will we become those people? If we don't humble ourselves and start listening to him and praying and making him a partner, then it won't work.
As it says in either 1 or 2 Chronicles, you must repent and put your face towards God. Yes. And as your people do that and we as a nation need to go through massive repentance because we did not deserve this victory.
You know, I did not. What happened? We didn't. What happened in Washington on Wednesday was a miracle and game changing. That is Doge and Trump saying we're not playing your game anymore. And it's listening to all of us as well. Now we just have to figure out how to keep everybody together. Glenn, what happened in the last 24 hours? You made a great point there. What happened in the last 24 hours?
I talked to Chip Roy about two hours ago, and I said, Chip, I agree with you, but I think Donald Trump has deserved the right to say, trust me. And when I finished the interview with him, I thought he was speaking in code. I thought he was telling me, I am, but I'm also trying to send up warning flares. There are people that you are trusting now, Mr. President.
You have to know who they are that are in Congress, the Mike Johnsons of the world, that he thinks might be steering him wrong. And they're not serious. They're like, oh, yeah, we're all MAGA, and they're not. And he said he needed to expose those people like Johnson.
So him standing up and then he also led me to believe that he would be willing to do a cowboy contract with Trump and say, look me in the eye and say we're going to cut. Yes, that looks like exactly what he was doing and happening because of the new bill that just was introduced.
I don't want to put you on the spot here, Glenn, but how should we think about Mike Johnson's speakership? Do you think it's it would be wise or prudent to remove him?
I got to tell you, I mean, this is really radical, but I think Elon Musk should be Speaker of the House. And I think J.D. Vance should actually take the presidency of the Senate. John Adams did it. There is no reason why Vance doesn't do that. Imagine Elon Musk. Nobody's going to screw with Elon Musk. Elon Musk comes in, sets the agenda. No, we're not talking about that.
We're going to debate this. We're going to do this. We're going to do this. Here's the agenda. pass the bill and it would get passed. And you don't have to be a member of Congress to be a speaker. No, you don't. People don't know that. So put him as the Speaker of the House, at least for the first year.
I don't know if he would do it, but if he could get away, let him do it until we get... Donald Trump told me, I said, you know, you only have four years. And he said, he laughed at me and he said, Glenn, I have a hundred days. If my stuff isn't passed and gone through, if we're not... ready and have a lot of this cemented in, I don't make it. You know, it's not going to change.
I need it for 100 days. So at least maybe even for the 100 days, make him Speaker of the House and J.D. Vance President of the Senate.
And as we get closer to January 20, what should we be looking out for of how the Democrats are going to try to subvert? Because the intel agencies are not just going to roll over. What on the horizon should we be cautious of?
Put yourself put yourself on that balcony in Florida with just you and me. I'm afraid they're going to try to kill the president of the United States. I believe that that is not off the table or for Elon Musk. Quite honestly, anybody who can move people like they can move. They need to move out of the way. So that's an option that we should be looking for and praying that it doesn't happen.
The other thing is they just announced that they're not going to use the street activists anymore because, well, they just don't think it was effective. No, you only have an...
antifa left that's all you have left you don't have the average democrats are kind of starting to move on our side or at least go into neutral um so they don't have the street you know they can't put on the pink hats and march down the street anymore uh so they're gonna go into law and they're gonna try lawfare lawfare lawfare
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Yeah, tomorrow I'm going to be talking, but I'm going to tell the story of America in a very, very different way and point out tomorrow where we can easily go wrong and where the Democrats and some of the youth that are not here today that are kind of brainwashed, become useful idiots, are going to lead us Because they don't understand things like health care. They grew up under Obamacare.
And so they're not seeing a way out. They're going to be convinced, oh, you know, more government control. We have to be really careful right now. We have to be humble. We have to pray. We have to unite. And... And when Donald Trump, I give him benefit of the doubt. He's earned it. He needs to have his agenda done.
So when he says, you got to call Congress, you got to back me up, back him up until he would betray us, which I don't think is happening. Back him up.
Glenn, thank you for your friendship and your leadership. Give it up for Glenn Beck, everybody. Thank you, man. I want to throw to the great Ben Berquam. Ben, what do we have on the ground here at AmericaFest?
Hey, Charlie, speaking of places we should be spending our money or we're not spending our money, Western North Carolina. Tell me your name while you're out here.
My name is Margaret Akas. I'm from Western North Carolina, Murphy to be exact. And I'm here to help and spread the word. Western North Carolina loves Trump. We support it. We don't care if you shut it down because the American people are helping us right now. And J.D. Vance is coming.
And we would love to have you help our organization Operation Shelter, which is still trying to house 150,000 Western North Carolinians using RVs from across the country.
Awesome work. And thank God Trump won. We're actually going to put our money to the communities that matter. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank God.
All right. Brick suit. We got brick suit in the house. Everybody know brick suit, Charlie.
What's your message, brother? Look, I'm just we just need to carry our momentum forward. We have a great, huge victory that we've won and we just cannot become complacent. We need to stay engaged and make our voice heard in Washington. And I believe we're going to be victorious. Love it. Yeah. Guys, we love BrickSuit.
All right, look at this beautiful family right here. What's your name? Where are you from?
My name is Freddie Woods. This is my husband, Robert, and we're from Orlando, Florida.
Unbelievable. So Turning Point USA, five kids from Orlando. You guys came out here at Christmas just for this?
Yes. All right.
To the kids, no pressure, but first I want to go through your names.
My name is Lexi. Lexi. I'm Gabby.
Gabby.
Sammy. Sammy. I'm Trinity.
Trinity. Love that. RJ. RJ. So no pressure, Charlie. Beautiful family. Beautiful family. The future of our nation is on your shoulders. You guys got it? You guys got it? You got it? You got it? All right. What would you say if you could say something to President Trump?
I love you so much, and thank you for taking care of our country and making it great again.
Yeah, President Trump, we love you, and we are so grateful for you, and we know that the Lord has his hand on you, and he is protecting you, and he is watching over you, and we are honored to stand by your side.
Charlie, do you mind if I pray with this family real quick? Lord, I just bring this family to you. I lift them up. All these kids, Lord, these beautiful kids, this husband and wife raising up this beautiful family. I pray for all the husbands and wives of the nation, all the children of the nation. And I pray that this nation, you say that those who call on the name of the Lord will be saved.
I pray that this nation would call on your name. And I just thank you for giving us a reprieve in President Trump. I pray you'd raise these children to be warriors for your kingdom and for this nation and for the nations of the world. In Jesus' name, hallelujah.
amen god bless you guys charlie amazing ben keep on working the crowd that's good stuff there all right come over here guys all right tell me what i love you mom hang on real quick charlie mom and dad what do you guys want to say i almost ignored you guys no i'm just we're just grateful to be here we want our kids to know that the restoration of the republic is in their hands that the lord will guide them and lead them and they will restore our republic dad anything else yeah and we uh just raised our kids to be victors not victims and so that was the most important thing so
that all right come here i didn't get you guys last time colorado talk to me about the fight yeah i'm daniel belfontein i'm the chairman of the adams county republicans in colorado and we flipped the seat from udira caravel to gabe evans so now we have another republican from colorado it's a blue state and we're trying to change it red and we need all the help we can get we did it with the grassroots we didn't do it with our state party we did it with the grassroots
That's the way to do it, through the grassroots. Everybody, please welcome Josh McCoon, state party chair of the great state of Georgia. Josh, walk us through what happened this cycle in Georgia. Donald Trump won. Tell us the story.
Well, once again, the story were low propensity voters that did not vote in 2020. We saw in the first week of early voting, which, again, we emphasize for people to turn out early, that... 15% of those first weeks of early voters did not vote in 2020. By the time we got through three weeks of early voting, almost 1 million Georgians who voted in the 2024 presidential election did not vote in 2020.
They broke hard for President Trump. That really was the story.
So let's walk through some of the ground game you guys did. What did you do as state party chair of Georgia that was different or better than previous cycles?
Well, we wanted to put tools in the hands of our county chairs and our volunteer grassroots leaders. Obviously, our partnership with Turning Point was a key part of that, making sure people had the tools in the toolbox. They knew where to go. They knew where those voters were.
That was really the key, was changing our focus from just turning out base voters to turning out people that were on the sidelines in previous elections.
What parts of the state really overperformed versus prior election cycles?
So rural turnout was just monstrous. There's no way you can't overemphasize it. Towns County, Georgia, on the Georgia-Tennessee border, over 80 percent of all registered voters voted in the election in a county that went by.
for president trump by over 80 and that was the story all over the state in rural georgia basically like everybody voted absolutely what what do you attribute that to your ground game but there was obviously a messaging component why was it that the rules roared the way they did
Well, I think the secret, again, was the early and consistent emphasis on early voting. I mean, you got to remember, we had 4 million people in Georgia vote before Election Day. And a lot of those low-propensity voters, even though some of them broke late and voted on Election Day, the vast majority got out and voted because of our emphasis on getting out early.
That, to me, was the crucial piece to the strategy.
What did you learn that can now be applied for future election cycles in Georgia?
We've got to continue to build relationships with those low propensity voters. We've got to go out and register more Trump MAGA voters. We have hunters in Georgia that are not registered, fishermen, gun owners. We've got a lot of people still on the table that we need to get off the sideline and into the game.
So walk us through. Georgia is the centerpiece for the 2026 midterms. Who is up? What is the configuration?
What's happening in Georgia? So Senator John Ossoff is up for reelection, one of our two Democrat U.S. senators. And, you know, he's very vulnerable. We think we can take him out. And all of our constitutional offices are open. They'll all be open. Lots of people running for new offices. So it's a good opportunity for us.
But we've got to hold the line, win all those constitutional offices and take that U.S. Senate seat back.
So, Josh, let's speak more broadly. I mean, you were a centerpiece. The president entrusted you with Georgia. What is the direction you want to see the Republican Party go from a grassroots standpoint on how other state parties need to be run?
Well, we need to be laser focused on providing our grassroots leadership with the work to do that wins elections. We need less happy talk and more work knocking on doors and doing the things we need to do. And we need our elected officials to deliver. That's really important. We worked very, very hard to win this election.
Our people need to see the wins to get them motivated to come back out in twenty six.
Josh, you did an amazing thing in Georgia. I don't know if we would have won Georgia if it wasn't for your leadership and for all that you did. Final thoughts, how could people support you, Josh, get behind the work that the Georgia GOP is doing?
Check out our website, gagop.org. We're always looking for additional supporters. We want you to come alongside us. Help us build the movement so that we can take John Ossoff down and move our majority to 54 in the U.S. Senate.
Josh McCoon, everybody. Great American, Josh. Thank you so much. Ben, I'm going to throw it back to you as we prepare the great Sage Steele. Awesome.
All right. What's your name? Where are you from? What's your message? My name is Leonard DeChristophoro, U.S. Army vet from the state of Illinois. My message right now is I know everybody's been talking about the CR, all the money that's going to Ukraine again, another over a billion dollars.
My question has always been what happened to the people in the hurricane areas that are still homeless, that are still trying to find help? And our uniparty that's currently in Washington not doing a damn thing to help them. I don't understand it. And if President Trump's listening. Mr. Trump, you've got to do something to help those people who are hurting.
There's family members that still don't know where their missing family members are.
Not just North Carolina, but East Palestine as well. There's communities that have been destroyed for over a year. But I'm with you 100%. Thank you, sir.
Thank you.
Hi, Ben. Farmer Brooke from Payson, Arizona, local. Shout out to Charlie for what he's doing. And we pray for you daily. We have Rav on all day long. When we hear your voice, we come running to see what you're telling us. If it wasn't for you and Oscar, we would have no clue what's going on.
By the way, that's a great point, Ben.
I just want to say.
You guys should all have Rav on all day. I do. It is the best news source out there. Real America's Voice. You can find it on Pluto. You can find it on over-the-top Sangsum TV. It's really, really sharp stuff. You can also, Parkworth Parker, download the Real America's Voice app. Ben, how do people do that?
You just go on your phone, go to the App Store, put in Real America's Voice. You've got all of these options right here. By the way, Charlie, we're also on iHeartMedia now, a podcast, huge, right here. You can click that, put your phone right there, and you can get all the options right there, Charlie.
I love that. And also, it's 24-7, on demand, whatever you guys want. Our show, War Room, free of charge. All free. It's all free of charge. Just amazing. The best. Okay. Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here with New Year's resolutions. Many of us will vow to eat healthier and that's a good thing. But what about your beloved pets and their nutrition?
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Hi, guys. Legendary. I don't know about that.
Legendary. So, Sage, I have to ask you, the college football playoffs. No, I'm kidding.
Oh, my God. Listen, I went to Indiana. They got a big game at Notre Dame today. Do we have any hope?
Well, I think so. Silence. I'm such a college football fan and aficionado. Backstage, we have two big screens. One screen of what's happening on AmFest and another screen that is just college football coverage all day long. You know, you gotta have both. Yes, priorities. You know, light applause. So... There you go. Good luck.
Honestly, Donald Trump winning the White House and ASU in the college football playoff. Miracles do happen.
I got to tell you.
Pretty amazing. Sage, welcome. You've been increasingly outspoken this last year. How has that been for you in this scary political world?
That's the word. It's scary and it's crazy and it's intimidating and it's awesome and it's freeing. It's like there's I didn't know there's a whole world out here, Charlie. I used to just watch from afar and think in my next life, I'll be able to be honest and be able to talk to people like Charlie Kirk, who's half my age and inspiring me and inspiring millions of people.
I want you to know I have three kids in college this year, three college kids. My kids didn't listen to a thing I said. They don't. Right. That's what you guys do. They listen to you, and you truly changed this country, so it's been an honor to stand up here with you.
So, Sage, talk about the moment where you decided to go all in. You went from someone that was treated terribly by a certain sports network that we all reluctantly have to watch. And then you went all the way up until being on the Women's for Trump bus. Am I correct? Yes. So how did that happen? Walk us through the succession of events.
That's what happens when you decide to stand up for yourself and sue Disney, I guess, is that you say, forget it. Was I, quote unquote, throwing away my sports career? Absolutely. But I trusted in God. And at the end of the day, I felt that if I was preaching to my kids to be true to themselves and to stand tall for what they believe in, but then I went silent, then I'm a hypocrite.
How can I teach my kids to do that, but then stay quiet, even though it was scary, even though it was costly in every possible way? That was my turning point. And when I got to interview Laura Trump on my show, The Sage Steele Show, she taught me about courage. And she sacrificed a lot. And so I think that's the key. I'm going to talk about this today when I get on stage.
And thank you for having me up there about fear. And it's real and why we hold back. I know every person here has had to push through fear probably just to be here. And we got to keep pushing through. And it's been amazing to put the pink jacket on with Laura Trump and everybody.
I love it. So, Sage, there's people in this audience and people online that have that decision. A boss is telling them that they can't be political or a friend in college is bullying them or a professor. based on what you've learned, what is not just your advice, but the sharing of the lessons for those that are going through those fork in the road moments.
And or when your boss is telling you you have to get a vaccine in order to keep your job, which is why I ended up eventually leaving ESPN. And, you know, getting the shot at that time because I was afraid. So that's what I want to focus on today is just pushing through that fear. But I do think it's personal. It's just like raising kids. There's no one way to do it. There's no mandate.
There's no book. There's no easy way. You're going to sacrifice. So the question that I had to ask myself, what was I willing to sacrifice? And I didn't realize that the list was a lot longer than I ever thought. It is worth it. And for me, it also came down to, yes, being an example to my kids. And my faith. And my faith has never been stronger.
And it's been really beautiful to see what happens when you let go of control. We try to control everything. And when you let go and let God, I'm standing next to Charlie Kirk right now because of that. I'm not talking about football. I'm talking about things more important than football.
Sage, I got to make sure we stay on schedule, but just one more thing. Plug the Sage Steele Show for the audience, please, okay?
Yes, please. At Sage Steele, Sage Steele Show YouTube. So I'm just learning all this YouTube stuff. I need some advice. I just dropped a great show yesterday with John Rich. I mean, a country music star. Let me tell you what he said just yesterday. He wrote a song dedicated to Diddy. That's all I'll say. Check out the show. It's John Rich.
But the best part is to be able to have conversations with people, even people you disagree with. That's what's been missing in this country, and I'm trying to help bring it back.
Sage Steele, everybody.
Thank you. Thanks.
And what do we have?
By the way, before I forget, I got these brand new pair of carpet shoes. You always have paraphernalia from the board. From the Sinaloa cartel. You got to try these on. They're, you know, so they don't see your footprints through the desert. Anyways, I got to go over to this young guy over here. He was yawning. Were you up partying late last night? Are you just having so much fun at Turning Point?
Yes, sir.
What's your name? Justice. Justice? What a great name, Justice. And? Eden. Eden. Hi, Mom. Your mom. That's just Eden and mom. All right. I want to come over here and this young man over here. What's your name? What's your message?
Jay Carson Buley from Boise, Idaho. And I wanted to tell people that we need to look at the NGOs because I see him down below the border reporting on everything. And so I used to be working for the Red Cross as a volunteer intake officer. And then I didn't realize that the Red Cross, along with Catholic Charities and all these others, are actually supporting illegal migration into this country.
I totally agree.
We need to defund the NGOs and investigate them criminally on day one.
Yes, yes. And we should stop donating to them. That's the only way. Stop donating to them, and then they'll change their policies.
But they take a lot of taxpayer money, too. They take a lot of government money. Ben, we'll be back in a second. We have a very special guest. This young lady is one of the most courageous people in the country. Chloe Cole. I mean that. Chloe was lied to by the medieval butchers that call themselves doctors of the transgender lobby. They told her that she needed to go undergo surgery.
Am I right, Chloe? Right. Drugs. And she is now what is called a detransitioner. Chloe realized that what she was being sold was irreversibly damaging. She speaks out with turning point groups across the country. She speaks out against this. And the trans zealots have death threats against you all the time because she speaks out against it. Chloe Cole is a hero.
Give it up for Chloe Cole, everybody. Chloe, speak a little about your story. We only have a couple of minutes and the importance of ending medical mutilation for kids in this country.
So, yes, thank you for having me on, Charlie. Two years in a row. Yes, I am a detransitioner and I actually went through the medical process of a gender transition while I was still a child.
I'm 20 years old now, but between the ages of 12 to 16, I was put on Lupron, which is a chemical castration agent, to stop my puberty, weekly testosterone injections, and then at 15 years old, before I could even legally drive a car, I had a double mastectomy.
Now, it was actually the surgery that led to me realizing that all of this was a mistake, and that one day I wanted to become a mother, I wanted to become a wife, and... I would not be able to do that. I potentially could have lost my ability to have children naturally because of these drugs and because I was put on them so young.
And I started speaking out publicly since I was at the age of 17 because I believe that children deserve better.
Chloe, what do you have to say for the public policy and how many thousands of kids are currently being targeted by this mafia?
I mean, there's hundreds of thousands of kids who are going through this right now. Hundreds of thousands. In the West. Yes. All over the West. And there's actually a resource, the Stop the Harm website, that has a database of each state and all of their different clinics and all of the public insurance data on how many children. The Stop the Harm database.
It pulls from public insurance there from all 50 states between 2019 to 2023, where this has happened at different clinics, surgeries, and the chemical castration of children in all 50 states. Don't ever think that this isn't affecting your community because I've been all over the U.S.
I've been to a bunch of different churches, schools, and every single place I've been to, I've had somebody come up to me with a very similar story everywhere.
Yeah, I'm just looking here in Arizona. Arizona did adopt legislation that placed age limits on sex change surgeries for minors. Chloe, you are a detransitioner, which means that you had irreversible damage done to you. And just really quickly, how are you treated by the transgender lobby?
From the very beginning of Mighty Transition, I was immediately just ousted from the transgender community. I was told that it was all my fault, that I should have known better, even though I was a child. And they were cruel to me, the same people who celebrated me for having surgery, for going down this path and being encouraged to do so at every step of the way.
Chloe, we're out of time. She's an American hero, and we need to end the butchery of our children in this country. We need to do it day one. God bless you, Chloe.
God bless you, Charlie. Thank you all.
She is a hero. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.