Chloe Cole
Appearances
The Brett Cooper Show
The Growing Regret Among Trans Teens | Episode 13
These researchers, these doctors, these providers don't really ask questions that are geared towards people like me or outcomes like mine of regret, of detransition, of choosing to go out the other way, and of this potentially not being the right path. I certainly was not asked that by my own healthcare providers. I was never followed up with about how I was doing emotionally really.
The Brett Cooper Show
The Growing Regret Among Trans Teens | Episode 13
And when I would talk about my regrets and my negative feelings around the procedures that I'd undergone, especially the surgery, it was kind of treated like it was just a normal outcome or that it just wasn't significant.
The Brett Cooper Show
The Growing Regret Among Trans Teens | Episode 13
Transgenderism is not an innate characteristic that somebody has. But the further that you look into a patient's personal history, any trauma that they might have, especially stemming from their childhood, any attachment issues, any familial issues, this is something that is completely psychological in nature.
The Brett Cooper Show
The Growing Regret Among Trans Teens | Episode 13
And this distress around one's body, around one's sex characteristics, is not just something that occurs in a vacuum.
The Brett Cooper Show
The Growing Regret Among Trans Teens | Episode 13
We need to be giving these people real support with their mental health, not telling them that they are something that they aren't, but also leading them down this path that is going to lead to them being sterilized, losing parts of their health and happiness and their ability to fully live their lives.
The Brett Cooper Show
The Growing Regret Among Trans Teens | Episode 13
And we need to be following a more holistic approach that's focused on the overall picture of their lives and their overall health. and towards their longevity and their future.
The Brett Cooper Show
The Growing Regret Among Trans Teens | Episode 13
I mean, I think that for both sexes, It's a matter of psychiatric illness and distress. But for a lot of the women, I'd say that for a good portion of them, it comes from a place of normal pubertal or adolescent or early adulthood distress that just comes with growing up from a girl into a woman.
The Brett Cooper Show
The Growing Regret Among Trans Teens | Episode 13
When you look at the personal histories of the men especially, they tend to have high rates of having been abused in the past, of having familial difficulties. What we actually need to do for these patients is
The Brett Cooper Show
The Growing Regret Among Trans Teens | Episode 13
first of all, to not affirm these issues that they're having with their identity and not lying to their faces about who they are, not letting them believe that the issue is their body rather than the issues that they have in their life that are making them feel so negatively about their sex around these parts of their bodies.
The Brett Cooper Show
The Growing Regret Among Trans Teens | Episode 13
In the United States, we're a lot more politically motivated. We're a lot more financially motivated, and those are the two biggest things that are why this has become so pervasive in different industries in the US, especially in healthcare, right? It's because it's become an ideological issue, the left has made it into a human rights issue, and it's also incredibly lucrative.
The Brett Cooper Show
The Growing Regret Among Trans Teens | Episode 13
It's a lot harder right now in the US to make these big strides to protect our own children and young patients from being subjected to this.
The Brett Cooper Show
The Growing Regret Among Trans Teens | Episode 13
Detransition isn't really recognized even as a phenomenon within the medical community. There's no standards of care. There are not even any billing codes for doctors or nurses to use when dealing with those of us. There's just not really much that they can do in the first place. Just how many children how many young men and women end up coming back out of the system and having outcomes like mine.
The Brett Cooper Show
The Growing Regret Among Trans Teens | Episode 13
We're kind of getting an idea with how many of us are kind of just like coming out of the woods and talking about our experiences in increasing numbers just online. Like there are... I think tens of thousands, if not more, de-transitioned individuals who are on social media right now and on different platforms talking with each other and connecting over their experiences and trying to find help.
The Brett Cooper Show
The Growing Regret Among Trans Teens | Episode 13
I mean, it really affirms not only my own experiences with going through the entirety of transition, especially the surgery, but also that of all of my other detransition friends who've also had these surgeries and these other individuals who've reached out to me and have gone through them.
The Brett Cooper Show
The Growing Regret Among Trans Teens | Episode 13
It's almost kind of vindicating that there are studies now that are showing the harms of what these surgeries do, not only physically, but also psychologically. And it really takes down this narrative that these surgeries are beneficial to the patient, that they create better outcomes for mental health and overall quality of life.
The Brett Cooper Show
The Growing Regret Among Trans Teens | Episode 13
I guess the culture around these studies and the research around this was more focused on prevention of cases like mine, prevention of regret, and mitigating the risk of detransition as much as possible.
The Charlie Kirk Show
AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
So, yes, thank you for having me on, Charlie. Two years in a row. Yes, I am a detransitioner and I actually went through the medical process of a gender transition while I was still a child.
The Charlie Kirk Show
AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
I'm 20 years old now, but between the ages of 12 to 16, I was put on Lupron, which is a chemical castration agent, to stop my puberty, weekly testosterone injections, and then at 15 years old, before I could even legally drive a car, I had a double mastectomy.
The Charlie Kirk Show
AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
Now, it was actually the surgery that led to me realizing that all of this was a mistake, and that one day I wanted to become a mother, I wanted to become a wife, and... I would not be able to do that. I potentially could have lost my ability to have children naturally because of these drugs and because I was put on them so young.
The Charlie Kirk Show
AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
And I started speaking out publicly since I was at the age of 17 because I believe that children deserve better.
The Charlie Kirk Show
AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
I mean, there's hundreds of thousands of kids who are going through this right now. Hundreds of thousands. In the West. Yes. All over the West. And there's actually a resource, the Stop the Harm website, that has a database of each state and all of their different clinics and all of the public insurance data on how many children. The Stop the Harm database.
The Charlie Kirk Show
AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
It pulls from public insurance there from all 50 states between 2019 to 2023, where this has happened at different clinics, surgeries, and the chemical castration of children in all 50 states. Don't ever think that this isn't affecting your community because I've been all over the U.S.
The Charlie Kirk Show
AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
I've been to a bunch of different churches, schools, and every single place I've been to, I've had somebody come up to me with a very similar story everywhere.
The Charlie Kirk Show
AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
From the very beginning of Mighty Transition, I was immediately just ousted from the transgender community. I was told that it was all my fault, that I should have known better, even though I was a child. And they were cruel to me, the same people who celebrated me for having surgery, for going down this path and being encouraged to do so at every step of the way.
The Charlie Kirk Show
AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
God bless you, Charlie. Thank you all.