Sage Steele
Appearances
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
So I'm, you guys, isn't that the definition of diversity? I'm so proud of my diverse background where my black family loved me as much as my white family. And our family reunion pictures were all colors of the rainbow and as a beautiful thing. And I didn't understand why Barbara Walters was so angry with me for saying I'm biracial.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
And so she asked me on live TV on ABC, why don't you identify as black? Our president does. And I said, well, congratulations to the president. I think it's fascinating because... He was raised by his white mother and his white grandmother. And his black father was nowhere to be found. And he wrote a book about it. This is not breaking news. But you do you. I choose to identify.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
I said, I'm pretty sure my white mom was there the day I was born. And why not celebrate all of me, not just part of me? I think it's simple. So... That hit different in 2021 than it did in 2014. So that blew up. I got in trouble for that. I got in trouble for saying that women in locker rooms, we need to be professional and it does matter how we dress. That's another story for another day.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
And then finally the COVID shot. I will tell you, Charlie, I had just come from getting the shot. We had until September 30th, 2021 to get it or we were fired. I was devastated because I... I'm not a scientist or a doctor, but I knew that it didn't feel right to be forced. A simple Google search told me that it takes six to nine years on average for the FDA to approve a vaccine.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
And this was how quick, a couple of months. So I just wanted to wait, but I had three kids, um, And they had recently gone through a divorce. Financial responsible for everybody. And I felt at that moment I didn't have a choice. And someone said, religious exemption. And I'm like, but it has nothing to do with my religion. So I didn't want to, I wanted to be honest about my why.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
Get a medical exemption. Well, it isn't, I don't have anything wrong that I know of. This is just wrong and it's my body, my choice, correct? Sometimes. So.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
Right, right. So I fought it and fought it. And then at the end of the day, I ended up going. And I remember sitting in the parking lot of the grocery store that I had to go in and probably have someone off the street put a shot in my arm. And I just prayed and said, please, Lord. Let this just go right through my body. Let it be nothing, just water that she's putting in me.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
And I remember sitting down and I walked in and sat down and she looked at me and my eyes were red. And she said, are you okay? And I said, no, I'm being forced to take this shot to keep my job. And I just cried like a little baby. And she looked at me and she said, this is so wrong. And I'm so sorry.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
And then she held my hand and with her other hand, I don't know how accurate it was, put the needle in my arm. And I can honestly say, it gets me choked up to say it. Something changed in me at that moment because I'd never been forced to do anything to my body. And there was like a little, I think in hindsight, some rage in me.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
And then it was over and I got in my car and I raced home because I had promised Jay Cutler to go on that podcast. And I had forgotten that I had a Band-Aid on my shoulder because I was shaking and berating myself for caving. I was embarrassed and I was ashamed. Um, and he brought it up on the podcast and I was like, yeah, I, I took it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
I said, I think it's sick and scary for any employer to force their employee to do anything to their body, but it is a global company. We are owned by Walt Disney, the Walt Disney company. And, um, I understand onward. That's what I said.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
I found out that it was not okay to say that, according to my employers, and I was called in within days of it dropping, well, within minutes of it dropping, days later, and basically pulled off the air, suspended off the air for 12 days, forced to publicly apologize where they said I'd get fired. My agent said that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
And when I say public apology, it's a very long statement that I spoke ill of the company. And then, of course, they passed it on to the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times and the Chicago Tribune and every single web service to crush me, to embarrass me, and then followed it up with, while we believe in diversity of thought... We're in a suspender.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
So they didn't call it a suspension because I was paid. Paid suspension happens in sports all the time. I was taken off the air and forced to pause. I was willing to let it go, Charlie, because I was scared and they scared me and that I wouldn't be able to feed my family and support my family. So what do you do? You do what it takes.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
The problem is it didn't stop there and they kept taking assignments away and things I had worked on for years and hosting the Rose Parade in Pasadena and the New York City Marathon and they just kept taking things.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
In the meantime, my peers were allowed to go on ESPN Airwaves, not on a podcast with an old former quarterback, on ESPN Airwaves and talk about their opinions, how devastated they were when Roe versus Wade was overturned. How angry they were about that and that girls, I guess, didn't have the right to kill their babies on a basketball show. Or their opinions on COVID.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
The George Floyd nonstop Black Lives Matter.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
And I don't care what our beliefs are. Even if they were aligned with many of what people here in this room believe, you aren't turning to ESPN for politics. No, not at all.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
I don't either.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
The only reason they're still alive in my mind is because of the programming. They've done a great job.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
And also for news breaking, we have our phones. You go to X, you go somewhere else. It's not must see TV anymore.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
And they've done a great job with that. And that is why they're still standing. But the problem, as I told my bosses for years, long before things went crazy in 2020 with COVID and George Floyd, Please keep it separate. Diversity of thought. Diversity of thought. And we were told not to tweet or talk about politics unless...
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
They agreed with what you were saying if it was anything on the left, basically wokeism. So that's when I said enough is enough.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
And if you're going to allow all of my peers to talk about their politics because they align with Disney on ESPN Airwaves, and I can't go on a day off on a separate podcast separating myself from ESPN to not just talk about my opinions but my experiences as a biracial woman, a proud biracial woman,
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
As a mother who just wanted to protect myself and my kids from these mandates, I can have an opinion, especially if I'm complying with your rules and I comply. So that's when I hired an attorney, the same attorney, by the way, who helped and represented Megyn Kelly and Tucker Carlson right now as we speak. If you get in trouble in the media, Brian Friedman's your guy, let me tell you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
It was devastating to have to file that lawsuit. It broke me. That was my dream job and I was so proud of it. But for 16 months, from the moment the lawsuit was filed to the moment we settled, who sues their employer while they're still working there and on their airwaves every day? I would go in shaking, feeling sick every day. And I'll shut up after this.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
I would pull into the parking lot and call my mom and dad. I'm 52 years old, I call my parents three times a day still, you're never too old for mom and dad. And I'd call my parents and we would pray right before I walked into those doors to go on TV and represent my company and try to represent the fans out there.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
And for those of you Catholics and others, the prayer is Saint Michael the Archangel, protect us from the wickedness and snares of the devil, rebuke and we humbly pray.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
and that prayer every day is the reason I could walk in and put the fear back here to go do my job and I felt like I had this bubble around me a bubble of protection and I look back I did my best work during my scariest time and I know that is because God was with me every step of the way I love that and
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
It's a great question. Why? When Laura Trump called and offered me to wear those pink, cute pink jackets, women for Trump, I'm like, I'm in. Really hot pink. It was gradual, Charlie, and I look back on it, and I'm just almost laughing that I went from saying, no, no, no, separate, because I believe it should be separate from our jobs, our politics, to this.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
I think I'm like millions of other Americans who had just been pushed a little bit too far. When I had people telling me how racist I am. White people. I guess it's that white mom that they did want me to acknowledge at that point. I don't know. racist, sexist, all of those things. And at the end of the day, I can separate who I want to win based on what? Policies. It's very simple. I lived here.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
I live in Florida now. I live in Tennessee part-time as well. And I lived in the Northeast. And when you can experience those different cultures, as I call them, you see the difference. And I didn't feel safer. I felt less safe. I also felt
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
Talked to my younger daughter when she was a sophomore and she came home talking about the litter box sitting outside of the math class because there was a girl who identified as a girl on Wednesday, a boy on Thursday, and a cat on Friday. We're fine with that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
It's real. It's not a joke.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
Furries.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
So when you see the craziness and you're living it, and then you're trying to teach your children to stand up for what they believe in, what I realized was that if I stayed quiet... If I... settled and did all the things and trying to build a new career from scratch, from nothing after being canceled 86 times. And then I still stay silent.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
I fought on the first amendment on my right for free speech too. If you're going to let my coworkers say it because you agree with them, but not me, that is in violation. So if I stood up for free speech, but then I go silent with the most obvious things, then I'm a hypocrite, not just to myself and whichever viewers may watch me or follow me, but to my three kids.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
When we're telling our girls and boys to stand up and be strong and not take it, and then we're silent, we are complicit. So I realized, for me... I had to do it. And then the best part about getting canceled so many times is then you realize it's okay. Like, I don't care. I think that was the biggest thing I learned through this whole process.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
As a firstborn pleaser my whole life, that goody-two-shoes girl trying to make sure everybody, my mom, my dad, my brothers, my uncles, my neighbors, the people who don't know me, everybody likes me. And the most powerful thing was to be okay being disliked. and to let go of that fear of being disliked. And if I can teach that by showing this to my kids, then this is worth it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
And the day, I'll say this, the day before the lawsuit dropped, I went to each one of my kids. Quinn was a freshman at High Point. Nicholas was a senior in high school. And Evan was a sophomore in high school. And each kid, I said, guys, I'm sorry, this lawsuit's about to drop. It's going to affect you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
In the past when speaking up, people had threatened my kids, threatened to rape my daughters, saying the worst things because of their mother's opinion. And so I said, guys, I'm sorry for what's coming at you. Don't ever defend me. Don't ever feel the need to defend me.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
Just remind people, especially those who preach diversity and tolerance and equity, that diversity of thought is where it all begins. So my mom has a right to her opinion. You don't have to agree, but she has that right. But don't feel the need to defend me. And I went to my son, who I always say, he's my saint in between my two brothers. not psycho, but kind of crazy daughters, psycho.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
He is definitely going to heaven. I said to him, I'm so sorry for what's about to come. And he looked at me and he goes, mom, it's about time you stood up for yourself. But what's the lesson? What's the lesson? We're staying silent to protect those around us so they don't go through pain, so they don't fear things. And what was I doing? I was a hypocrite.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
I was showing him the opposite of what I wanted him to do. So I knew at that moment, and Quinn said too, she was proud of me. She was scared, but she was proud of me. And I knew at that moment that even if Disney crushed me, which financially they came pretty close to doing in about four minutes, right? It's Disney versus me.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
Even if I lost, I actually won because my kids saw that their mom no longer lived in fear. And that's been the biggest blessing to come from it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
Social media, especially, frankly, before Elon Musk took over. Thank you, Elon. Thank you. It was an ugly place. And the algorithms made sure that if you had an alternative slash middle to right viewpoint, that you were ostracized and vilified and attacked. And so I thought that was the real world.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
I began to, I remember when I lived here and I was on the road back and forth with NBA and I was at Sky Harbor and I was afraid to make eye contact with people because I thought, and then because of my comments about my, my mother and diversity of thought and biracial and all that, I thought, oh gosh, now black people aren't going to like me.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
And the white people already don't like, I remember just living in fear. Like I couldn't please anybody. And I, I It wouldn't make eye contact with people, Charlie, because I was told on social media that I was the worst and I believed it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
So to then come through all that and stand up, and especially when I was still at ESPN fighting, fighting for, to tell the story, why are we not reporting on what Riley Gaines is doing? And talking about this massive story in sports and ignoring it, I began to get rumbles and whispers from people like, thank you, keep going. And I went, oh my gosh. There's so many other people like me out there.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
But if you listen to that, they want you to think you're alone. And that's why we stay silent. And I got out in this crazy world and I realized there's a lot more normal people than they want us to think. Common sense. But now what happens, I can't tell you how many times I have gotten emotional and cried and hugged strangers in airports across the country because they'll come up to me.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
It happened twice on the plane this morning. And I was like... oh gosh, I have a hat on and no makeup. How the heck do you? They're like, I know. If I just changed this, I'd totally blend in. But I have been in tears when real, grown men will walk up to me saying, I'm afraid to speak up for my daughter because I'm gonna lose my job. Please don't get silent.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
So when you realize this isn't even about me, this is so much bigger. It's about, my girls are, I mean, their competitive sports days are long gone. They say, I have no horse in this race. But if God has given me this platform, even if it's over tomorrow, If I waste it, what a shame. And I finally realized that I'm not alone.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
And that's why I have to keep, even if he's going to make me keep telling that ESPN story, because if I don't, what a shame, what a waste. Because if I can help others realize that they're not alone. because you do feel lonely, then that's a win. And I say this to these young girls. It should not be up to these young girls now to stand up with this sports trans ridiculousness.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
Where are the adults in the room? We have to continue to encourage the adults. Silence is compliance.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
It is. First of all, they're all cowards in my mind. Sorry. I also work with so many men. We were talking about this earlier. So many men. I mean, former NFL players and NBA players. There is no way they agree with this. The problem, I mean, and they have daughters who are playing these sports now.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
It would be great to have any one of them.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
Yes, yes. I try to be really nice about this and watch my words.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
Okay, forgive me. But these men need to grow a pair. And I'm sorry. I'm sorry. How else do you say that? How else do you say that? Stop being cowards. Stop being quiet. I was talking about my coworkers at ESPN because they've got millions and millions of dollars. They have the security. They don't have to worry. And they still choose to be silent when, again, if one spoke up, what happens?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
You see it with these young women now. And slowly but surely, these girls are giving up their... lifelong training to stand up. The fencer over a couple of weeks ago who took a knee, God bless her and how scary for her that she could be throwing her career away. We're not going to let that happen, right? There's so many good people now who are uplifting women who have that courage.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
But for the men out there and the fathers, it is real. The fear is real for cancellation, etc. However, if you band together, and again, you're reminded that you're not alone, there is power in that, and we cannot stop with this issue, because that's the 890 that are reported.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
But you're not talking about the girl, if you're placing one through eight, and there's a boy in third, number nine, then doesn't even get a shot.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
Thank you. I do think every one of those Democrats, they know. We might disagree, but they're not stupid. They know. I truly believe it's deeper than that. And God forbid you agree with something that the center right believes in.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
It is, but it's actually evil. A hundred percent.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
Thank you. I never thought I'd be doing this with, by the way, the Charlie Kirk. This man, I know, you're the worst at accepting compliments. I'm just telling you that I don't believe this election would have gone the way it did without you and without your voice. I don't. I don't. And I... My daughter, my daughter, again, you hear this all the time.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
My daughter's like, no offense, mom, I don't listen to you. I listen to Charlie. This is long before I met Charlie. So thank you, thank you, thank you. And in general, I feel smarter. Well, I get to sit next to him. Can you rub off a little?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
But like when I watch your stuff and I feel smarter and it does take courage to repeatedly go into the lion's den like you were this week with Riley at the University of Washington. It was great. You're crazy. But I'm so grateful for that. And I love talking to people like Charlie. For AmFest, which is incredible here, I was able...
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
I was able to talk to you for like 12 minutes on my podcast because we're doing a short one. So it's the Sage Steele Show YouTube. I didn't understand that you needed subscribers. Like I didn't know anything. I worked at a TV network. You just tune in and that's how I get paid. Like I get a salary and a paycheck. It's a contract. That's not what this world is. So if you would subscribe.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
Sage Steele podcast.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
But it's about conversations. It's about conversations, even with people you don't agree with.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
My parents were my guests last week, and it was the most important show I've ever done. It was my mom and dad.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
That's nice.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
So you're talking about the new media seat that Caroline Leavitt has done with the White House Press Room.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
Oh, I have never been more nervous for anything in my life. In the White House, the Brady Press Briefing Room, I was scared to death. It was such an honor. I was the third one. And they brought me there the day that Donald Trump signed the executive order to keep men out of women's sports. So it applied for me to be there.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
the key with that question which again i was so nervous i've talked to michael jordan and lebron james and tevin curry and all the best top athletes in the world and i interviewed a sitting president joe biden in march of 2021 i did live on it was not live on sports center because it had to be taped just in case that's a story for another day read the book guys it's coming um Oh, the question.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
It was, I really wanted to make sure and push that point further. So the president is signing this, but what we need to do is to make sure that if another crazy administration comes back and tries to blow Title IX up like the last administration did, what does Donald Trump and company need to do to make sure that never happens again? And that was my question.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
But that takes understanding government and all the things that must happen in order for that to take place. And right now, by the way, there are still loopholes that the NCAA has taken advantage of because men are still allowed in women's spaces. college campuses and sports. And they can still take scholarships away from women. So those are the things that the president is continuing to work on.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
We are so grateful for the EO that he signed that day. And it was honestly the biggest honor. to be there. I never aspired to do politics. I ran the opposite direction. I was like, oh heck no, you are not getting me into this thing. And there I was sitting in the press briefing room talking to Caroline Leavitt. What an honor.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
And it was really a moment that I don't know that anything can really top it because of the importance of it for young women.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
It was a struggle.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
I'll just say this. It was April 2021, so he was just in office.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
Here's the problem. Before we started, we had a little technical issue. And so I had to like make chit chat with him. Remote. Okay. And still kind of COVID at that point. And so there was a camera. of him, like the camera was pointing at him, but there was a black tarp covering it and they didn't let me see him until that moment.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
So I had to make small talk and he started talking about what a great football player he was at Delaware and how he was a receiver and he had great hands.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
I still had, the questions, I'll just say, were very scripted and non-negotiable.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
I don't know if they did and went to ESPN or ESPN went to them. I know that there was no diverting away from what was given to me.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
I feel like it's a fair question, and it speaks to the fear that so many people have. I was watching the videos of you this week at University of San Francisco and University of Washington, and I'm so glad that you posted it because people need to realize it is still there and encouraged.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
And I really hope, again... encouraging people to do the same in their own way. You don't have to go be Charlie Kirk, but maybe it is that school board meeting. Maybe it's just a conversation with your neighbor who gave you a hard time back in 2008 for having a John McCain sign in my yard. Like those little things, have the conversations. That I think qualifies as standing up too with kindness.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
We can do it with kindness and with class. That's the difference.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
I think it's going to take a very, very long time to regain the trust of the American people. And it should, because it's been abused. And they took us, and I consider myself a consumer as well as a journalist. Am I a journalist now? Am I an opinionist? Like, I don't know what I am.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
Thank you. Truth teller. And, again, just trying to ask the questions that I hope others would want to hear from whoever I'm speaking with. It's going to take, for me, I don't know. I don't think it's coming. Not with the mainstream media. Not with traditional TV news and ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, as far as those four networks.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
And frankly, it doesn't matter which cable news network you watch either, even if you agree with them, it is biased. And so to me, it's really, really difficult. It is inherent. We all have to make an effort and go dig and research and not just have an opinion, but know why and be able to discuss it. Now, I know who I listen to and I know my why behind it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why Sticking to Your Morals Matters — Live at Dream City Church with Sage Steele
And most importantly, when you have that information, Understand they have a right to their opinion too. I say this to my kids. I say this to anybody who will listen. Just because you disagree with somebody doesn't mean they're wrong. Because at the end of the day, I don't know your why. I don't know what you went through. Every single opinion is based on someone's experience.
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So when we judge, I don't think it's the right way to handle it. So go dig, go do your research, know your why, and respect other people's why. But I think mainstream media is dead.
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We need it, absolutely. But at that moment, yes. And also, kudos to Donald Trump in that moment for complete self-control. And he just got quiet and let him fry. Let him do it to himself. Sorry.
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And that, I mean... But that was a newer version of Donald Trump, right?
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I remember like I was watching an NBA game.
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Yeah, but real quick, I love that you said that. There's zero accountability. That matters. The retired Army colonel, my father, accountability is everything. And it wasn't just the most obvious, most important thing to cover up with Joe Biden. It was what happened in Nashville, the school shooting there and how they completely made that go away. Even with Butler, Pennsylvania, the border.
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So then people finally went, oh my gosh. They have been intentionally lying to us this whole time. I do believe it's a blessing in disguise, all of the lies, all of these things. Because without that, I don't think the American people would have believed how bad it was. And because of that, that's why November 5th went the way it did.
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It's uncomfortable. It's very uncomfortable. And this is why people say they don't watch news or pay attention because it's depressing. Yes, it is. But then look what's happened. Look what we've allowed to happen.
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And by the way, I will say the big picture. which might seem like, you know, really far away because it is logistically Washington, D.C., but what Linda McMahon is doing with the Department of Education as a whole, I think, is a very big deal with the DEI, with the books that have been allowed in our schools, with kids that are in elementary school, primary school.
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So unfortunately, it does take a long time, I think, to unravel the mess that they have created and allowed. But I do believe, again, another reason why the right person is in the White House, because it starts, to your point, it starts with our kids. And she is doing everything she can to help.
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About chasing your dream. What's your dream?
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No, I love you. Isn't it refreshing? How old are you? I'm 24.
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We have so much hope in this country with young men like this. The fact that you're going to school here, I think says a lot. You're going to get no's along the way. You're going to get other people. Everything is, I mean, it's a beautiful goal and you're within the church and God and Jesus and it's competitive. And there's a business aspect to it. And so what happens when they tell you no? No.
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that, I don't know, maybe they don't like your drawl. I think it's great. Depends where you are, right? Depends on who's making the decisions. So at the end of the day, I cannot tell you how many times I was told no. And then when I would get my foot in the door, how many times I fell on my face in front of millions a couple of times.
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And so the question is, what do you do with that when you get back up? And it does take a long time. What I always say to my kids, and I think, Quinn, you said this earlier to somebody, when you see what someone else is going through, learn from it. Like watch us screw up and take it and do more with it and push through with that dream. But most importantly, what's your why? Know your why.
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I told you my why earlier with journalism to tell the stories and to help unify because that's what sports did for me. So know your why. And I think for you and for everybody, that makes it easier to keep pushing when there is fear, when you're not making any money, when people tell you you're crazy. It's not up to them. It's up to you.
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Absolutely. And look at what happened last week with the Philadelphia Eagles going to the White House. And Saquon Barkley got crushed for golfing with President Trump. But it's fine to play basketball or golf with President Obama, right? So he called them out on that double standard. And I love him for that.
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Absolutely. He's a Christian too. He is. He's Such a good guy. And Jalen Hurts, who I believe is also a very good guy, chose not to go.
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And that is his right, and we have to respect that as well. A couple of things. I do think you can look back at Aaron Rodgers, for instance, who took so much heat for what he said in 2020. He got canceled for the first time about a month after I did. And so I'd known him for years through ESPN stuff and we were texting and I'm like, I mean, I was like, oh good, Aaron's getting canceled too.
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And not that I'm on his level, but it was like, again, you feel like you're alone. What he was saying, and I won't reveal all of it, but... It was comical to see how many people, peers of his, some of the biggest names, texting him to say, yeah, you're right. Good job. Got your back. Do they? Not one other one stood up and said, why are we being forced to do this? They let him get
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Just crushed, right? And he still does. Some of it is self-inflicted with other things. Point being, he was right about that. And again, there's no attrition. There's no accountability to come back to that. I do think, finally, we do have to remember, and I have to remind myself a lot, that as much as they are rich and famous and all those things, they're still human. They have fears.
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A lot of them are just like me, or at least how I was, where I really, really cared about what people think.
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Very, very sensitive. And despite having the power to do so, they choose otherwise. So do I say, yes, I do say those things and believe it. But I also have to remind myself that just because I did doesn't mean you're ready to do it. The problem is, if you don't, I don't want to hear it. Don't complain. Unless you choose to stand up. I don't want to hear it.
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And I remember the camera saying, oh my gosh, are Brittany and Taylor Swift still friends now? I mean, this is what people are focusing on.
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I just think overall. we're a lot smarter, aren't we? It took us a long time. It took us getting beaten down and beaten down to the point where we said, wait a minute, enough is enough. And I've said this a hundred times I truly believe we were on the brink of disaster on November 5th. And it took the last four years for everybody to say, you know what? Push me a little bit too far.
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And now we've had enough. And we've got to save this country and truly practice what we preach with diversity of thought and all those things. So I feel like our jobs, if we have a platform, is to number one, continue to, yes, push the truth and the facts. and point out when others are not.
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Not to get clicks and not to crush them, but if you do it and you back it up with facts, like last weekend, two weeks ago, whenever that was, the NFL draft with Shutterer Sanders, football fans watching him slide, slide, slide to pick number 144. I know, I know. And I go way back. I know his father, Dion, quite well. So it's like, oh my gosh, you see the human part of it.
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I could not agree more. I totally, totally agree. But the point is when people are trying to make that about race, I'm like, okay, okay, here we go again. That's just such low hanging fruit. So lazy. So I went and gave some numbers and how 26 of the 32 first round picks were black. The first overall pick is black.
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Does that mean that every single GM in the National Football League that is of color, and there I think were 10 last year, and then the black head coaches for not picking the black guy. So are they racist too? Like, stop. So when you go at them, and that was just an example with facts, not just my opinion, but facts, it's tougher.
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for them to call us idiots and all the names that they did for so many years. So to me, it's the easiest, safest way is to come back with facts. And the only thing I will take from Michelle Obama, only, is that what? When they go low, we go high. And the way that we do this really, really matters.
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Hi. Oh my gosh. Very rarely do people stand. Usually they roll their eyes when I walk in. So thank you. Can you do that again? No. I'm kidding. Sorry. I was kidding. Thank you.
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11 years old, watching the 1984 Olympics, 12, so you can do the math. So when people say, I grew up watching her, I could slap you. because you're aging me completely and that's okay. Hair dye does wonders. I was 11 years old when I said I wanna be a sportscaster watching the 84 Olympics, knowing that I wouldn't play any sport past high school.
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I thought the second best way would be to talk about it and to be around it. And what I noticed at a young age, moving to different countries, by the time I was 11, I lived in four different countries. Military brats, anyone else here? Yes, you understand. I thought that was normal to move around and have kids next door that were from Turkey here, Greece here, Norway there.
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We didn't speak the same languages, but kids always figure it out. But I realized living overseas and that sports is what brought people together. On a football Sunday, for three hours. Everybody's on the same team. In your race, in your sex, in your socioeconomic status, in your politics, nothing matters. You're just cheering for the same team and I felt that.
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And I wanted to be around more of that and to tell people's stories along the way. So that was the why behind it, to tell stories and do true sports journalism. The problem was I was like, I don't think you knew this, I was really shy, like weirdo shy. And my parents were like, okay, so you wanna be on TV? probably need to talk a little bit more then.
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So I had, I mean, I had to really push through that fear from a very, very young age and went to school for it at Indiana University, Hoosiers. Thank you. Do you know that next, I think it's the 10th, so it's this weekend, right? Yeah, Saturday is the 30-year anniversary of my graduation from Indiana University.
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No. Wow. Were you alive then?
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Yeah. I got the call I'd been waiting for from ESPN. I was working in Washington, D.C. at Comcast Sportsnet covering the Baltimore Ravens and the Washington Wizards and Maryland Terrapins and you name it. And I got the call and went up to Bristol, Connecticut for the audition. Scared to death, kind of, sort of, but I was really, really, really pregnant, like 12 months pregnant with my second kid.
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By the way, my first is over here in the orange shirt. Say hi, Quinn. Sorry. Sorry. She graduated from college, High Point University on Saturday. So one down, two to go. And so she was like 19 months old at home when I was pregnant with Nicholas and Nicole. And I'd been working for four or five years sending my resume tape in.
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Yes, VHS tapes, snail mail, not like a YouTube link that these little brats use now. And so like sending the tapes in and they kept saying, yep, nope, you talk too fast, still do. Your hair's weird, still is, all the things.
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it is what it is God gave me I can't straighten it like go for it so I got the call and went up for the audition and I crushed it because I had more important things I had this baby bouncing on my bladder and so when they tried to like roll the wrong tape to see how I handle adversity I'm like guys whatever go for it got the offer when I got back and I talked about it with her dad with my parents with my agent and I prayed about it and I knew I couldn't take the job
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So the dream job since I was 11 years old, I turned it down. My agent said, you're crazy. ESPN does not need you. You need ESPN. As that Army kid growing up around the world, all I saw was the example my parents set. that family comes first. And I knew that I wanted at least one more kid. I mean, I was about to have number two.
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And my dear friend, the late, great Stuart Scott, booyah, who took me under his wing before I even got to ESPN. Yeah, he was my best friend at ESPN. Stuart believed in me a long time before I believed in myself. And the human being that he was, I talked to him daily. And he told me, before I even got there, he said, don't come here until you're ready because you'll get eaten alive.
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So that's what I was thinking when I turned down the job. And they all said I was nuts and they're gonna blackball you and good luck, you're done, your career's done. Had the baby, signed another contract for three years and just thought, if this is what's meant to be, what God wants me to do, to get to ESPN and fulfill that dream, then that's what he'll make happen.
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And three years later, I got another call. And it happened to be a better offer this time, too. So, because I was better at my job. I had worked on my craft. But that was, in hindsight, Charlie, one of the first big tests. Because I was scared to turn it down. It was this big dream. And back then in 2004, I mean, there were fewer, many fewer women.
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And certainly no one that, there are a few that look like me. Robin Roberts was really the only one. And she was certainly my idol. Absolutely the trailblazer. So in 2007 went, and I got to tell you, 16 and a half years at ESPN. When I got there, my kids were 11 months old, two and four. I don't remember much from those days. I don't regret a thing. I got to do things that I never dreamt of.
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SportsCenter was that childhood dream, but it ended up being hosting coverage pregame halftime at the NBA finals with 30 million viewers and Super Bowls and seven straight Masters tournaments and World Series and like... I get emotional still thinking about what I got to do. And despite how it ended, no regrets. I loved it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. What a fun time. I had actually lived here from 2014 through 17. And so when I come back to Scottsdale, I cry because this is, oh gosh, right Quinn? We were landing today and I started crying. I'm like, this was home. I hope you appreciate where you live. This is the best place.
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It is. I will be back. Mark my words. And I had to come back to Connecticut in 2017 when they were going through layoffs. Said, we want to keep you, but you got to come back. So smart. And I loved my job. And so you leave and you go back. And I was watching how it was being handled here. And it was a lot different than the Northeast, as you know, just like California.
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And basically, long story short, I went on a podcast. Anybody remember Jay Cutler? Yeah. Sports fans, former Bears quarterback. I did a ton of terrible... I'm a Bears fan.
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I'm just going to say it.
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He is, but he's really quiet about it and needs to speak up a little bit.
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Come on, Cutler. But he had just started his podcast and his publicist said, hey, he hasn't had a woman yet. Would you mind? I'm like, absolutely. I actually had crushed him on his Bears highlights for years. I'm like, let me go on the podcast and try to be nicer. And he did a great job. His research team, they did a great job.
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And they looked up things that I had spoken about in the past, in particular on The View. This is in 2014. I know the view. 2014, when it was different. Barbara Walters was still there when I was on. And so he brought up, that was one of the hot topics, was Barack Obama. And Barbara was upset that I didn't identify as a Republican.
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black woman because it was important to me to say what I am, which is biracial. I have a mother who's half Irish, half Italian. When I say Italian, my grandmother's name was Philomena Lena Dipertola. Yeah. I know when you see me, you think Italian all the way. And then my grandfather was William Edward O'Neill. So don't mess with Mona Steele. My mother will cut you. And then my black father.
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Hi, guys. Legendary. I don't know about that.
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AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
Oh, my God. Listen, I went to Indiana. They got a big game at Notre Dame today. Do we have any hope?
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AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
That's the word. It's scary and it's crazy and it's intimidating and it's awesome and it's freeing. It's like there's I didn't know there's a whole world out here, Charlie. I used to just watch from afar and think in my next life, I'll be able to be honest and be able to talk to people like Charlie Kirk, who's half my age and inspiring me and inspiring millions of people.
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AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
I want you to know I have three kids in college this year, three college kids. My kids didn't listen to a thing I said. They don't. Right. That's what you guys do. They listen to you, and you truly changed this country, so it's been an honor to stand up here with you.
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AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
That's what happens when you decide to stand up for yourself and sue Disney, I guess, is that you say, forget it. Was I, quote unquote, throwing away my sports career? Absolutely. But I trusted in God. And at the end of the day, I felt that if I was preaching to my kids to be true to themselves and to stand tall for what they believe in, but then I went silent, then I'm a hypocrite.
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AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
How can I teach my kids to do that, but then stay quiet, even though it was scary, even though it was costly in every possible way? That was my turning point. And when I got to interview Laura Trump on my show, The Sage Steele Show, she taught me about courage. And she sacrificed a lot. And so I think that's the key. I'm going to talk about this today when I get on stage.
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AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
And thank you for having me up there about fear. And it's real and why we hold back. I know every person here has had to push through fear probably just to be here. And we got to keep pushing through. And it's been amazing to put the pink jacket on with Laura Trump and everybody.
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AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
And or when your boss is telling you you have to get a vaccine in order to keep your job, which is why I ended up eventually leaving ESPN. And, you know, getting the shot at that time because I was afraid. So that's what I want to focus on today is just pushing through that fear. But I do think it's personal. It's just like raising kids. There's no one way to do it. There's no mandate.
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AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
There's no book. There's no easy way. You're going to sacrifice. So the question that I had to ask myself, what was I willing to sacrifice? And I didn't realize that the list was a lot longer than I ever thought. It is worth it. And for me, it also came down to, yes, being an example to my kids. And my faith. And my faith has never been stronger.
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AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
And it's been really beautiful to see what happens when you let go of control. We try to control everything. And when you let go and let God, I'm standing next to Charlie Kirk right now because of that. I'm not talking about football. I'm talking about things more important than football.
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AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
Yes, please. At Sage Steele, Sage Steele Show YouTube. So I'm just learning all this YouTube stuff. I need some advice. I just dropped a great show yesterday with John Rich. I mean, a country music star. Let me tell you what he said just yesterday. He wrote a song dedicated to Diddy. That's all I'll say. Check out the show. It's John Rich.
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AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
But the best part is to be able to have conversations with people, even people you disagree with. That's what's been missing in this country, and I'm trying to help bring it back.
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AmFest, Day2: House Speaker Elon Musk? ft. Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, Josh McKoon, Chloe Cole
Thank you. Thanks.