The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Over the top auth strategies (Friends)
Fri, 31 Jan 2025
Dan Moore from FusionAuth joins us for a wide-ranging discussion about modern auth strategies. We talk magic links, OTP, MFA, passkeys, password managers & so much more.
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Well, friends, before the show, I'm here with my good friend David Shu over at Retool. Now, David, I've known about Retool for a very long time. You've been working with us for many, many years. And speaking of many, many years, Brex is one of your oldest customers. You've been in business almost seven years.
I think they've been a customer of yours for almost all those seven years to my knowledge. But share the story. What do you do for Brex? How does Brex leverage Retool? And why have they stayed with you all these years?
So what's really interesting about Brex is that they are an extremely operational heavy company. And so for them, the quality of the internal tools is so important because you can imagine they have to deal with fraud. They have to deal with underwriting. They have to deal with so many problems, basically. They have a giant team internally, basically just using internal tools day in and day out.
And so they have a very high bar for internal tools. And when they first started, we were in the same YC batch, actually. We were both at Winter 17. And they were, yeah, I think maybe customer number five or something like that for us. I think DoorDash was a little bit before them, but they were pretty early.
And the problem they had was they had so many internal tools they needed to go and build, but not enough time or engineers to go build all of them. And even if they did have the timer engineers, they wanted their engineers focused on building external facing software because that is what would drive the business forward. Breck's mobile app, for example, is awesome.
The Breck's website, for example, is awesome. The expense flow, all really, you know, really great external facing software. So they wanted their engineers focused on that as opposed to building internal CRUD UIs. And so that's why they came to us. And it was awesome. honestly a wonderful partnership, and it has been for seven, eight years now.
Today, I think Brex has probably around a thousand Retool apps they use in production, I wanna say every week, which is awesome. And their whole business effectively runs now on Retool, and we are so, so privileged to be a part of their journey. And to me, I think what's really cool about all this is that we've managed to allow them to move so fast
So whether it's launching new product lines, whether it's responding to customers faster, whatever it is, if they need an app for that, they can get an app for it in a day, which is a lot better than, you know, in six months or a year, for example, having to schlep through spreadsheets, et cetera. So I'm really, really proud of our partnership with Brex.
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