Dan Moore

Yeah, thanks for having me back.

Yeah, thanks for having me back.

There you go.

There you go.

Jared's not afraid. Too many letters.

Jared's not afraid. Too many letters.

Yeah, so I've been for the last about... four years, I've been working for an auth provider called FusionAuth, and I've done a variety of roles there and spent a lot of time talking to customers about how to implement auth, a lot of educational content. And when I say auth, you know, it's authentication, authorization, and user management.

Yeah, so I've been for the last about... four years, I've been working for an auth provider called FusionAuth, and I've done a variety of roles there and spent a lot of time talking to customers about how to implement auth, a lot of educational content. And when I say auth, you know, it's authentication, authorization, and user management.

There are some other aspects of the authentication or user lifecycle that we don't really focus on, like identity verification or kind of workforce-oriented stuff. We're much more focused on customer identity access management. So that's my expertise.

There are some other aspects of the authentication or user lifecycle that we don't really focus on, like identity verification or kind of workforce-oriented stuff. We're much more focused on customer identity access management. So that's my expertise.

And that, you know, learned about OAuth and SAML and OIDC and JOTS, you know, basically alphabet soup in terms of jargon, but spent a lot of time decoding that and taking it, rewriting it or rewriting my understanding in such a way that developers would actually be able to apply it kind of in their day-to-day life.

And that, you know, learned about OAuth and SAML and OIDC and JOTS, you know, basically alphabet soup in terms of jargon, but spent a lot of time decoding that and taking it, rewriting it or rewriting my understanding in such a way that developers would actually be able to apply it kind of in their day-to-day life.

Enough time for people to be distracted. Right. And like, like move away, go back to hacker news or listening to the change log or whatever they're doing before. And then they forget why they, why was that on the site? Yeah.

Enough time for people to be distracted. Right. And like, like move away, go back to hacker news or listening to the change log or whatever they're doing before. And then they forget why they, why was that on the site? Yeah.

It's interesting because the bigger issue we've seen around magic links actually is corporate link checkers and expiring the links. And we've gone to some pretty extensive lengths to try to fix that problem.

It's interesting because the bigger issue we've seen around magic links actually is corporate link checkers and expiring the links. And we've gone to some pretty extensive lengths to try to fix that problem.

but it's it's kind of the same kind of thing right like you're doing something that's a little bit out of band and you don't have kind of control over that whole experience right whether it takes well for the email to be delivered or the emails being read by something else and expiring a one-time code or something like that so i actually hit that as well what do you guys do about that we require like a

but it's it's kind of the same kind of thing right like you're doing something that's a little bit out of band and you don't have kind of control over that whole experience right whether it takes well for the email to be delivered or the emails being read by something else and expiring a one-time code or something like that so i actually hit that as well what do you guys do about that we require like a

So I think we do a JavaScript post of the, so you take, you're taking a page and then the JavaScript on the page executes in posts, which is what actually logs you in. So those link checkers aren't smart enough to do that yet. And so that kind of means that when the user clicks, they're opening a browser and that browser's

So I think we do a JavaScript post of the, so you take, you're taking a page and then the JavaScript on the page executes in posts, which is what actually logs you in. So those link checkers aren't smart enough to do that yet. And so that kind of means that when the user clicks, they're opening a browser and that browser's