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The Bulwark Podcast

Will Saletan and Scott Lincicome: A Crime Boss Has Taken Over

Mon, 03 Feb 2025

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The president of the United States is putting his Jan 6 accomplices in charge of the Justice Department and the FBI, and clearing out any officials who would be willing to investigate the administration. It's anti-democratic, it's a coup, and it's allowing Elon and his 20-something DOGE buddies to act with impunity as they illegally access classified information and the Treasury's payment system. Meanwhile, the White House can't even get its messaging straight on the tariffs as they sabotage our relationship with allies in the process. Plus, the ethnic scapegoating continues and the Dems at the DNC go all Portlandia when they need to be fighting the aspiring authoritarians.  Will Saletan and Scott Lincicome join Tim Miller. show notes Tim's interview with J.J. McCullough on Canada's retaliatory tariffs

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8.325 - 27.918 Tim Miller

Hello and welcome to the Bulldog Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. We've got a two-parter today. I added a bonus segment with Scott Lincecum, who's a trade expert, to talk about the tariffs that are imminent and already rollicking the stock market. But first, it's back for the old-timers, for the OGs. You might remember Will Salatin Mondays. Well, they're back right now.

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27.958 - 31.841 Tim Miller

Bill Kristol's on vacation. I'm here with my colleague... Will Salatin. What's up, Will?

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32.081 - 35.343 Will Saletan

There's no vacation from Trumpism, Tim. It's just everywhere you go.

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35.683 - 58.359 Tim Miller

No, he's been texting me. There's definitely no vacation for him mentally, but he does get one day off the podcast. Can I start with something positive, though? Go ahead, man. I don't know if you'll find it positive, but I'm feeling good about a couple of things this morning. All right? Tell me. Here's number one. this is a shit show. This is a total shit show. And I knew it would be a shit show.

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58.959 - 78.93 Tim Miller

We told everybody it would. But, you know, there was always a chance that Trump would get in there and, I don't know, decide not to do anything, right? And just kind of bleat and get people to call him sir and not actually do anything and take credit for things that were already kind of percolating positively from the Biden administration. That was one option that could have happened.

79.33 - 94.311 Tim Miller

But instead... We have JVL this morning in the triad predicting a stock market crash. And all the topics we're about to go over is them messing things up. I don't know. Can we not have some pleasure in that? Knowing that they're as bad as we thought they would be?

95.42 - 108.723 Will Saletan

This is where we are, that like the good is bad? Yeah, yeah, that's where we are. Tim, is it schadenfreude or is it that you think that there's something salutary about the pain that will lead to healing?

109.163 - 130.892 Tim Miller

I know, I'm not about healing through pain. No, thank you for saying that. Yeah, it's partially schadenfreude. It's partially just kind of like the, you know, solace and knowing that you are correct. The solace and knowing that... We weren't leading people astray. There's something to that. There's a little bit of joy in seeing other people's pain.

131.052 - 142.122 Tim Miller

But the bad people, the MAGA people, there will be some collateral damage, unfortunately. That's not what I'm happy about. But just their failures is kind of giving me a little joy. No, is that wrong?

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