Trump is taking liberties with our country's role in the world as a land of hope and opportunity by summarily locking up and deporting law-abiding immigrants—including people with legitimate asylum claims, people here on proper visas, and people with minor errors in their paperwork. And it's all being done with intentional cruelty to convey the message: Don't even think of coming to Fortress America. Meanwhile, his tone-deaf billionaire treasury secretary, Scott Bessent, is mocking Americans for wanting cheap TVs. Plus, Schumer postpones his book tour as Democrats look elsewhere for a fighter, and Trump throws a late-night tantrum about Biden's pardons. show notes: White House sizzle reel of immigrants being sent to penal colony in El Salvador Bill's 'Bulwark on Sunday' conversation with Aaron Reichlin-Melnick
Chapter 1: What controversial actions has Trump taken recently regarding pardons?
I'm living. I'm here. We're here. And there's that. I'd rather be living than dying. We got to start with the pardons that were voided, I guess, allegedly. Can you void via bleat? I guess that will be a question for Amy Coney Barrett to determine at some point.
I think just after midnight in the East, Trump pleaded that Biden's preemptive pardons of his political foes, particularly the members of the House January 6th Committee, are all caps, void, vacant, and of no further force or effect because they were signed with an auto pen.
This is now a emerging conspiracy theory on the right that Joe Biden was weakened at Bernie's at the White House and that there were like random staffers that were signing pardons that he didn't even know about. And they're using an auto pen to do it. There's some pretty obvious flaws in this theory, particularly that these were extremely high profile pardons that received a lot of news.
So it seems pretty unlikely that that happened while Joe Biden was was resting. So this, like many Trump stories, combines the ridiculous with the fascistic. But I'm wondering, what do you make of it?
I mean, it's super ridiculous to think that one president can void a previous president's pardons. Otherwise, we would have had a lot of that over the years, I suppose. They weren't always popular with the other party. Yeah, it's ludicrous.
I mean, I think Andrew Egger made a good point in Morning Shots this morning, which shows how deeply, deeply Trump wants to go after the January 6th committee people. I mean, who was pardoned at the end of the day? The Biden family? if I recall correctly, Liz Cheney and Representative Thompson and one or two others, I think sort of very much from that world, I guess General Milley.
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Chapter 2: How is the Trump administration handling political foes?
So Trump's going after the rest, together 97 of them, or of us maybe I should say, I don't know quite how we fit into this list, but it really rankles him that he can't use the whole Justice Department and the authorities of the federal government to go after Liz Cheney and Betty Thompson, I suppose. So it shows how deep The hatred is, I guess, fascistic, as you say.
We're so far beyond any sense of like, oh, this seems unseemly. Oh, this is kind of contrary to the rule of law. This is kind of contrary to the Constitution. This is kind of contrary to everything. You know, it's just...
Yeah, and look, there is – again, and we all know this, but as we're saying, there's the new – Alex Eisenstadt from Politico has a new book out that kind of covers the Trump 2024 through the campaign and the transition. And he's got a quote in there where Trump is talking to aides and being sarcastic and saying, listen, everybody, there'll be no retribution. There'll be no revenge. Wink, wink.
I mean, he's obviously – like wrapped around the axle around this, and he's specifically targeting these people.
And we talked about a little bit with David French on Friday, and that generally, historically, when presidents have, you know, or administrations have gone after political foes, not nearly as directly political foes as this, but people that, you know, where they made decisions that were based in politics rather nakedly.
you know, look at the Alberto Gonzalez situation for one example, that the administration usually tries to backfill that with like some other rationale. Right. That's like, this isn't, that's not really, this was not really politics. Right. Like what we were really trying to do was X, Y, and Z. And like the Trump administration is not even really doing that. Right.
Like, I think that is the other thing that is pretty striking about this. Like they're nakedly like, no, we're going after political foes. And like, Let's see what you're going to do about it, judges.
Totally, totally. I mean, it's just one of many, not to belabor the point, but it's one of many or several ways in which, yeah, the old kind of rules are gone. There were some excesses, God knows, in the past, but they were masked, and the masking itself limited the excess in obvious ways. That's how the world works, right?
But once you throw off the mask and it's just, you know, pedal to the metal on retribution and persecution... I mean, where does that end up?
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Chapter 3: What is the significance of Pam Bondi's recent statements at the DOJ?
And again, it's not like if he privately whispered to Pam Bondi, stick into that law firm there. Maybe you can find some law they've broken, you know, some ethics rule they broke, something we could bring them up on in a civil or criminal charge. That's bad. That's bad. But that's at least...
keeps the fiction that, oh, hey, Justice just happened to discover that this firm was billing client, double billing clients or something. I don't know. There's not even the pretense, as David French said, right? It's just I don't like them. They represented a bunch of my political enemies. It's not even telling Justice Department to look into them or ordering them to.
It's he personally is, if I'm right about this, stripping them of their security clearances and making their life, making it much harder for them. to represent clients before the government. I mean, it's a personal order. It's not sort of a request to justice to look into it.
Yeah. And back to the Bondi thing, too. I just doing the oh, the right wing media is hypocritical, you know, has this pretty boring at this point and has some limits. But it's just worth just putting it like going back to one prime example that anybody that was kind of paying attention to politics in 2015, 16 will remember, which is this Loretta Lynch tarmac meeting.
There's this notion that the then Attorney General has a meeting on the tarmac with Bill Clinton. So not even like the sitting president, right? But with Bill Clinton. And I still don't think we know exactly what they talked about, but it was when Hillary was under investigation. And there's this notion that maybe some message was sent to tell the Attorney General then to ease off of Hillary.
And Fox News must have dedicated 100,000 hours to this. If they did a minute, they did 100,000 hours. And it's like the whole pretense of that controversy was that the Department of Justice needs to be separate from political power Right. And that they should judge people's, you know, whether people are prosecuted, you know, based on the facts and based on the law.
And if they're not doing that, then that is a scandal. And like here we have just out in the open, the attorney general under Trump saying, no, yeah, I'm going to do whatever he wants. Like I will. Be a political actor. And there's nothing wrong with that. And it's just crickets. Like, it's just total crickets. Like, there's no... Has Andy McCarthy, like, written a screed against this?
You know, I mean, like, there was a whole...
industrial outrage complex on the right like dedicated to any sense of wrongdoing you know during the obama or biden administration and and they've just totally dispensed with that and like you know i mean obviously i guess we've seen this across so many verticals but like in this case it is just as blatant as you could possibly imagine you know it's striking when you hear the video i'd read the clip but i hadn't i hadn't heard it until just now
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Chapter 4: How is the Trump administration's immigration policy affecting visa holders?
Let's get to immigration. On that third point there, the defiance of the federal court order, he's referencing this flight of Venezuelan. We'll kind of get to who these people are. We'll get to the Venezuelan part of this. But essentially, a judge had put a stay on this alien enemies act.
powers that that trump says that he is granting himself as far as deporting people inside this country and they had a group of venezuelans they put on a flight and the stay happened when there's some debate about this but maybe the flight is in air and they went through with it anyway and said well it's over international water so we don't have to to respond to this and they don't seem to be having any interest in responding to it anyway so that's like the biggest news on the immigration front but the biggest picture you talked to aaron reichland melnick
on our bulwark on Sundays over on Substack, which I really recommend for people who want to get nerdy on what is happening right now with immigration. But what struck you from that conversation that's kind of the biggest picture state of play?
Yeah, I think it was a good conversation, not because of me, but he really explained well, I think, the bigger picture, but also sort of the nuts and bolts of how some of it works. I mean, just on this thing, this invocation of the Alien Enemies Act is almost being slid over sometimes because of the
sort of defiance, let's just call it, or evasion of the court order, and certainly an attitude of contempt towards the court order. But the invocation of this act is nuts. I mean, and that itself should not, and I believe will not, one hopes will not stand up in court. It's been invoked, used three times, the War of 1812, World War I, World War II. It's for actually about alien enemies in war.
You know, some German saboteur shows up On the West Coast or something. But anyway, they had to invent a fake war with this Venezuelan gang to justify this. Now, Trump already has pretty broad powers to hold, detain, and to deport people who are not here lawfully.
And if you find people involved in gang activities, you can, of course, prosecute them just under the normal criminal laws of the United States. You can also detain and deport them. And these people were being detained. I think it's really worth making this point that they weren't like roaming around free in the streets of the U.S., but he wants to deport them to El Salvador.
So that itself is outrageous. But on the bigger picture, two points. The rule of law is shattered in so many ways in the immigration area or pushed or stretched or distended. And you could say in any one of these cases, some of these cases, well, it's kind of possibly plausible, but you put it all together here. They want no one coming into the country, basically, almost.
I mean, that sounds like crazily overstated, but it's not that overstated. Certainly no one coming and staying. They're not even crazy about people coming for a while. If there's some tiny risk, they'll stay. Even if their overstay would be because they're hiking around on some trail for an extra week. I mean, right, we're really in a kind of hostility to people.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of the Alien Enemies Act on immigration?
Okay, I'm fine to laugh at the expense of Trump voters who are suffering the consequences of their actions, but at the broader point, this is preposterous, which takes us back to the Venezuela situation.
The alien enemies, as you mentioned at the top, the notion here is that what it gives them the ability to do, tell me if this is your understanding, is essentially just to fast-track these deportations without due process. You don't have to actually prove. They don't have to have a court date. It's just there's an accusation that they're part of this enemy group, Trenda or Agua.
And that is all the rationale you need to deport. Yeah.
And they don't definitely got a criminal conviction or anything, which would be another reason you could detain people and deport them.
So what we're doing with these people is we're sending them to El Salvador's terrorism confinement center. If you haven't seen the videos or pictures of this thing, it's like a penal colony run by the villains in some dystopian robo-cop future. It sends a chill down your spine. The idea that you would send one innocent person to this fucking hellscape should just make you shudder.
If you've not looked at the videos, the White House itself has helpfully sent out a...
sizzle reel of the horrible treatment of the people at this penal colony i guess is some kind of deterrent or you know maybe to get steven miller hard i don't know why they why they posted up you can watch that if you want here's the thing though so the ceo of the the immigrant defenders law center that's immdef on on social media if you want to check it out this is what she she writes so we're taking her word on this but i i want to actually explain this case in detail
Our client fled Venezuela last year and came to the U.S. to seek asylum. He has a strong asylum claim. He was detained at entry because ICE alleged his tattoos are gang related. They are absolutely not. Our client worked in the arts in Venezuela. He's LGBTQ. His tattoos are benign. But ICE submitted photos of his tattoos as evidence he's trend to Aragua.
We last spoke to our client on Thursday before he was supposed to have a hearing in immigration court, but ICE didn't bring him to the hearing. The government attorney had no info about why he was not there. The judge reset the hearing for Monday. Today, we've been trying to contact our client ever since. This morning, yesterday, Sunday morning, he disappeared from the online detainee locator.
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Chapter 6: Is the U.S. moving away from its identity as a land of hope and opportunity?
So it'll be just fine back here at home. That's where I'm at reading this story. Give it the fuck back. Doge can take care of this. Elon Musk can put that on a fucking boat back to France. Because if we were going to treat this person... Like this. There's no we're welcoming the tired and poor and huddled masses. There's no yearning to be free here.
We're going to send you to a fucking authoritarian dystopian penal camp in El Salvador where you're going to get beat and abused and treated like shit and who knows what else just because you happen to be a Venezuelan that wanted freedom in this country. It is just appalling. So I don't know if you have anything else on that, but... No, it's horrifying.
And look, if you said, look, we have to detain him and it's going to take a couple of weeks where we check out his story on the tattoos before he gets the temporary protected status, which is certainly Venezuelans are supposed to get, I believe, if they flee the Venezuelan authoritarian regime. But, you know, OK, that would be maybe the conditions under which he's held aren't great.
And that's, you know, OK, that's kind of the messiness of our immigration system and of the border or something, though. But the idea that we're sending him to this horrible penal colony in El Salvador is beyond belief. And again, why? What was the rush? The guy was detained. I mean, he wasn't out on the streets being a member, allegedly, a member of some gang.
So it's purely about the performative cruelty and the, I guess they think, deterrent effect. And J.D. Vance being able to go on Twitter and say, we're deporting the criminals. And the Democratic judges, I don't know if he says judges, but the Democrats want to keep them here or bring them in or keep them here or something like that.
So it's really using these people as pawns for a very low political end. It's really horrifying.
It's fucking evil. It's sick. Who are you? What are you? You're religious? You're quoting people? You're trying to quote Ordo Amoris? Yeah. Like about like how we care about each other and we're, you're doing this to this person. Like imagine being this person, assuming that again, assuming like it is reported as true. They're like fleeing Venezuela. They make the long trek to America.
They think they might have the opportunity for freedom. They end up getting put into a prison.
a cell and next thing you know you're on a plane with actual gang members because by the way i assume there are actual gang members also on this plane that we are sending and i think we probably shouldn't be sending them to fucking el salvador and paying el salvador a fee for this but besides the point okay we're sending some fucking gang members so you're on this plane with like these violent evil gang members and
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