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Mark Hertling: Aiding and Abetting a War Criminal

12 Mar 2025

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Putin has been named a war criminal because of the Russian way of war in Ukraine—bombing Kyiv and other cities, attacking civilians and first aid workers, and destroying infrastructure. The administration's pause on aid and intelligence sharing with Ukraine made the US complicit in those crimes. Meanwhile, Trump does not have any leverage to force Russia to comply with the proposed cease-fire. Plus, the escalating trade war with the EU harms our national security, our allies' hesitancy to share intelligence because of Tulsi, and the South African DOGE bro's laughably absurd attack on Mark Kelly. Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling joins Tim Miller. show notes Hertling's Bulwark piece on the damage of Trump's pause on aid and intel sharing with Ukraine Hertling's Bulwark piece on a frozen conflict in Ukraine Andrew's interview with Sen. Mark Kelly

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70.165 - 92.958 Tim Miller

Hey everybody, before we get to General Hurtling, I got a few news items and programming notes for you. For next level fans, JBL Sarah and I will be together on Thursday. So we're taping a little late this week. It'll be out probably Thursday evening, Friday morning. Keep an eye on your podcast feeds. Also a reminder to download our Bulwark Takes podcast feed on your podcast player of choice.

93.578 - 114.512 Tim Miller

for bonus content, breaking news, hot takes, etc. Because there's no next level, I wanted to pop off quickly on a couple news items for you. The House passed a budget to keep the government open. It was a continuing resolution with support from one Democrat, Jared Golden of Maine. Now it goes to the Senate. where it will need seven votes to pass.

115.293 - 132.684 Tim Miller

This is a little bit of a sticky wicket for Senate Dems. And while I think they should hold the line in opposition, I've already seen Chris Coons out saying that this morning. There's going to be some legitimate counter views. So I'm going to explore that more tomorrow with Sam Stein, etc. But I think that will be an interesting strategic battle coming this week.

133.025 - 153.251 Tim Miller

One wrinkle in this budget for our DC listeners, one fucking enraging wrinkle really, is the bill includes $1.1 billion in cuts to the DC budget. That could affect policing. I thought these guys were tough on crime. It is going to affect access to health care services and other public services for people that live in D.C. And here's the crazy thing about this.

154.366 - 178.403 Tim Miller

It doesn't actually even save a single cent. It is just the cruelty is the point all the way down. It is just revenge and resentment and going after these big city liberals and the D.C. swamp and whatever. This money is D.C. It's in the D.C. budget. So it will just sit around in the D.C. treasury. rather than be used as the mayor and the city council had determined.

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