The directives putting a pause on federal grants and the firing of career DOJ prosecutors is about trying to make the entirety of the federal government the tool of the man occupying the presidency. And it's all illegal and unconstitutional. Meanwhile, Trump is exactly the kind of broken sociopath who can dominate the war for attention—the defining resource of our time. Plus, a rundown on DeepSeek, the new Chinese AI model, and why Bitcoin fans aren't more angry about the worthless, scammy Trump and Melania coins. Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz join Tim Miller. show notes Chris's new book, “The Siren's Call: How Attention Became the World's Most Endangered Resource." Undercover video of Russ Vought on Project 2025, from August 2024 Alex's "Big Technology" on Substack Alex's "Big Technology" podcast
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Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. We've got a doubleheader. I called in Alex Kantrowitz, a tech reporter, to try to educate me on what in the hell is going on with DeepSeek, the Chinese AI advancement that Mark Andreessen called a Sputnik moment for the country. So I wanted to figure out what the hell's going on with that. So he'll be up in segment two.
But first, I get to turn the mic around on somebody you might know, you might have heard of it that he wrote about in his book that he's, he's kind of a big deal. He's kind of a minor celebrity that gets noticed in the airports. Now, his name is Chris Hayes. He's on MSNBC. And he's got a new book out the sirens call how attention became the world's most endangered resource. How you doing, man?
I'm great, man. How are you? I'm doing well. You're dealing with the gaze of strangers.
Okay. I'm dealing with the gaze of strangers. I'm pretty used to it by now, but it'll mess you up a little bit in the beginning. Actually, the press tour is weird. Like, I don't... I think when I was younger, I liked it more. I don't love being the object of press. Hmm. You know? Probably because there's like a control issue. Yeah, right.
Like, when it's your show, you control it, whereas with... It's other people that are controlling it, which is... The reason that a lot of powerful people don't like...
journalism like fundamentally right you don't have if you're a powerful person you're used to people like deferring to you and being very differential and and having control over them and like that's just not the way journalism works like it's like it's interesting that you can see all this rage by all these powerful people about against journalists and fundamentally it's because the power dynamics of journalism are intentionally not in the hands of the most powerful people
They like attention and control. You know, they like to be lavished, praised, praised to be lavished on them.
That's exactly right. That's exactly right.
In exactly the manner which they wish for it to be lavished on them. Okay. Yeah. You have some interesting insights about things that I dealt with in therapy, about the difference between attention and recognition. So we're going to do deep thinking, but unfortunately we have to do news too. There was some news last night, the Office of Management and Budget.
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