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The Bulwark Podcast

Bill Kristol: Cannons All the Way Down

13 Jan 2025

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Trump's favorite judge, Aileen Cannon, has been attempting to exercise authority she doesn't have over Jack Smith's required report on his investigations of the Jan 6 case and the hoarding of classified docs—but she'll be a model of loyalty that Trump will expect for all his judicial appointments. Meanwhile, it's a big week of hearings for his nominees, Wray could do more to oppose the politicization of the FBI, and what is up with Fetterman?  Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller. show notes Bob Kagan's Atlantic piece on Ukraine that Bill referenced

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0.336 - 19.071 Tim Miller

Hey everybody, when I taped this with Bill this morning, we were discussing these legal motions from a couple of Trump's underlings, including Walt Nauta, that was trying to delay the release of the Jack Smith report. They'd put in a filing with Judge Eileen Cannon. Since we've recorded, those motions have been denied.

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19.632 - 46.907 Tim Miller

And so, as of right now, there are no legal barriers to the release of the Jack Smith report. So, hopefully we'll be seeing that soon, and we'll be discussing it later this week. Up next... Bill Kristol. Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. It is Monday, so we've got Bill Kristol live from Washington. A big moment for Washington.

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47.628 - 52.211 Tim Miller

The football team has won a playoff match on the backs of LSU grad Jaden Daniels.

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52.292 - 70.005 Bill Kristol

First in 20 years, I believe. The first playoff victory in 20 years. And they can go to Detroit next Sunday. Next weekend, I was thinking about this, will be a good distraction from the inauguration that's coming up Monday. This will have pretty good, I don't follow pro football much like I used to, but it seems like at least pretty good playoff games next week, right?

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70.365 - 82.416 Tim Miller

We will have some great games next weekend. That distraction will absolutely be needed. Our friend Ben Stillman with Severance is coming back. Maybe on Friday I'll create a list for people of various distractions from the inauguration.

82.536 - 88.201 Bill Kristol

You need Monday 9 a.m. to midnight, you know, 15 hours of things to watch.

89.362 - 109.109 Tim Miller

Yeah. I'll work on that assignment for our listeners. I guess I wasn't going to do this, but since you brought it up, I was going to pretend like the inauguration wasn't happening for this hour, but we'll just do briefly. Because you announced just right before we were coming on the schedule for the inauguration, which includes on Sunday night a MAGA rally, followed by a candlelight dinner.

110.245 - 129.991 Tim Miller

So not exactly traditional to have a rally, you know, a partisan rally before the inauguration, which I'm sure will have a message that they leak to the media. It's like about unity and blah, blah, blah. The night before he's going to have... a MAGA rally, and then a nice candlelight dinner. Who knows, a picnic or something.

130.271 - 146.298 Bill Kristol

It's all grift, isn't it? I'm sure. I haven't seen it, but I haven't seen the announcement. But Trump can't personally, I don't think, still benefit from ticket prices to the – I don't think the inauguration, but you don't pay for it to go there, right? So people can go to that in the old-fashioned way as a public civic event.

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