Passion Struck, with John Miles (Leadership, Self Improvement, Business, Mindset)
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constant learning being curious about how to do things differently but also deliberate action and when you combine those things meaning you're choosing growth time and time again whether it's in your personal life or in a business setting and then you're constantly taking actions that go in concert with that growth you're creating it's a perfect recipe for greatness.
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Today's guest is John Miles, a former naval officer, an author, entrepreneur, Fortune 50 senior executive, and award-winning podcast host who has established himself as an expert in behavioral change and leadership. His book, Passion Struck, along with the podcast and radio show of the same name, have earned praise from many, including some past Action Catalyst guests, such as Matt Higgins, Mark Devine, and Marshall Goldsmith. So John, good to meet you. You too, Adam. You know, one of the things that I do like talking to our guests about, and I kind of probably wanted to open with you some, is focusing a lot on the journey. You know, most of our guests didn't necessarily have a master plan from the age of 10 on being where they are today. It's evolved over time.
What was the evolution that you went through, different iterations that you were considering doing along the way?
Thanks for that question. As I was growing up, I had always had in my mind that I was going to be doing something of impact to others, but I always thought it was going to be in a way of some type of public service, whether that was being a police officer, an FBI agent, fireman. I never really saw myself sitting behind a desk of sorts. I kind of saw myself being out there and living this life of exhilaration, et cetera. And for me, that's exactly how my life was going up until about the age 28. I had gone to the Naval Academy, had spent time as a military officer where I was working at the counter-drug mecca for the United States. And in this command, we had all these different law enforcement entities and intelligence entities, and they all asked me to apply. And here I am making this choice of, do I want to go to the DEA, NSA, FBI, et cetera? And I ended up taking the route of becoming an FBI agent.
And it was literally a few days from going to Quantico when my detailer called me out of the blue and said, I've got some unfortunate news for you. Congress can't get their act together. You use stronger words than that. And your class has unfortunately been recycled. And to my nativity, I thought, He was telling me I had a couple month delay and it ended up being closer to a four year, three and a half to four year delay. And by the time that the opportunity represented itself, I had been forced to take a plan B when this plan A vanished in front of me and that plan B. B ended up becoming then the next 20 to 25 years of my career, a career that I never thought I was going to get into and was kind of forced to go into because of circumstances beyond my control.
And in reflection, did you feel like that path was the right one?
Well, I think when we get immersed in it, we don't really think that way. I guess I always had this mentality, regardless of what I did, I always aspired to do the best job that I possibly could. So before long, I had really excelled at what I was doing and was on this rocket ship climb to the top, so to speak.
I think each phase of our life, we pull and extract different lessons that we end up being able to leverage later on. And I could assume some of the lessons that you might have learned at the Naval Academy where I think you were also an athlete as well.
Yeah, well, it's funny. I think almost everyone who goes to the Naval Academy is an athlete. Yeah, I was highly recruited to be a cross-country and track runner, and that's where I got my start.
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