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Sword and Scale

Episode 289

Wed, 30 Apr 2025

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On January 11, 2018, a routine house fire revealed something much more sinister. 28-year-old Elisabeth Bell had burned to death on the second floor of her small eastside home in Buffalo. But as investigators pieced together the how, the real mystery remained as to why?

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Chapter 1: What happened on January 11, 2018, in Buffalo?

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They must sacrifice their principles if they are to gain everlasting glory.

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Huh?

Chapter 2: Who was Elizabeth Bell and what led to her death?

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A superficial burn is painful, but tolerable. You've probably suffered quite a few in your lifetime. Think of a really bad sunburn or that fleshy little lump you get when you touch a hot pan. Partial thickness burns are more severe and injure deeper layers of skin called the dermis. This burn will take weeks to heal and is the most painful because no damage has been done to the nerves.

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This kind of burn is pretty agonizing. But a full thickness burn destroys most of the dermis, getting right down to the muscle and bone. The burn part of the body is left with a waxy white appearance. It's completely terrifying. A full thickness burn destroys most of the nerves. There's no blister because the burn has gone so deep it's plowed through all that flesh, blood, and muscle.

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1140.56 - 1175.838 Former Buffalo District Attorney John Flynn

He had full thickness of burns throughout his body. He had to have a cadaver skin graft done of his face. He lost all of his fingers. They actually had to put him in a induce coma to actually do the skin graft of his face, and they had to graft on new eyelids on his eyes. To say he was jacked up is an understatement of the century.

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Frank was a mummified version of the man he once was. Just a day before, he had been a handsome, healthy 33-year-old man. Now, he was a monster, burned on 90% of his body, with stubs for hands and ears that melted into the side of his head. His lips looked like two banana slugs resting on an old leather mask. He would never be the same again. Karma's got a funny way of working. It really does.

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It can be quite efficient, too.

1214.909 - 1240.292 Former Buffalo District Attorney John Flynn

There was no way he was leaving the hospital. He was not a flight risk. So there was no rush to arrest him, to keep him in jail. He wasn't going anywhere. So in this case, we made the decision to not arrest him right away and to just work up our case, do the investigation, and then put it in the grand jury.

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Paul Simonian, the head fire marshal at the time, was already piecing together what had happened based on the evidence.

1248.35 - 1273.391 Fire Marshal Paul Simonian

You learn not to just rush to a snap judgment because so many things could happen. You know, you don't know the players. You don't know what actually transpired in that bedroom, who did what, who said what. I said, you got gasoline up here. That doesn't belong up here. So something's wrong there. You have a boyfriend that ran out. They were both on fire. He didn't stay or try to help her.

1273.431 - 1283.474 Fire Marshal Paul Simonian

He ran out. How badly is he burned? This is way before we have any information about Frank, any threats he's made in the past or history with Elizabeth.

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