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Short Stuff: Colorful Noises

Wed, 09 Apr 2025

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We’ve all heard of white noise, that static sound the TV makes when poltergeists arrive. There are other colored noise too that mimic natural sounds like rainfall and ocean waves. What they do for us is just now being studied.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chapter 1: What are colorful noises and their uses?

19.332 - 31.743 Josh

Hey, and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh Clark, and this is Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and Jerry's there. She doesn't have a sound associated with her because she's already listening to sound, and this is short stuff.

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Chapter 2: Why do people listen to brown noise?

32.699 - 54.255 Chuck

Yeah, we're doing one on the different color noises, you know, white noise, brown noise, pink noise. And Jerry literally just said, hey, I'm listening to brown noise right now, which I've never heard of anyone just listening to noise unless they were trying to sleep or, you know, at a place where they were trying to block out other noise.

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54.295 - 58.598 Chuck

But I think Jerry just said it like helped her relax or something or concentrate.

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58.798 - 60.039 Josh

Focus, I think she said.

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60.819 - 64.282 Chuck

Yeah. Kind of the same thing I said, but with a different word.

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64.662 - 77.432 Josh

I used to try it, too, during work. It is supposed to help you focus and at the very least drown out other noises. But it just didn't take with me, at least at first, at least for working.

77.973 - 79.654 Chuck

You do like ambient music now, don't you?

79.814 - 85.639 Josh

Yes. But I get it for sleep, for sure, which is what most people use it for. Jerry's an odd duck.

86.448 - 95.296 Chuck

Yeah, and I have been on record before. I'm a brown nose adherent. Brown noise, I didn't know. Apparently, did Alma say brown nose?

95.316 - 96.778 Josh

Yeah, I think you did say brown nose.

Chapter 3: Who was Robert Brown and what is Brownian motion?

111.86 - 116.463 Josh

And this is Pink's noise.

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116.743 - 135.155 Chuck

Brown noise is deeper, has lower frequencies, it's got more bass, minimalizes that higher frequency. And I didn't really know this, but apparently you can liken some of these to sounds in nature. And apparently brown noise is more akin to like a river rapid or a heavy rainfall or thunder sound.

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135.805 - 156.738 Josh

Yes. Distant thunder. Rumbling thunder even. Yeah. Yeah. So obviously that's very alluring. Everybody likes those sounds. So brown noise makes sense. And because there's also white noise and pink noise, you think brown noise is just named after the color brown. Like for some reason, maybe it evoked the color brown in the person who named it. Wrong.

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157.659 - 181.169 Josh

There was a scientist named Robert Brown from Scotland who in the very early 1800s was looking at pollen grains through his microscope and saw them basically dancing around. And he said, this is not possible because pollen is not alive. And he had no idea what this was, but he published his paper so that future generations could solve it.

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181.609 - 204.898 Josh

And apparently no less than Albert Einstein took it on and found this was an excellent demonstration of atomic particles interacting and basically moving ultimately these pollen grains along. the reason that it's named after Robert Brown, Brown Noises, because he tried to figure out how to quantify these random movements, right?

Chapter 4: How is brown noise created?

206.599 - 225.005 Chuck

Yeah, and this is a part, like, I don't know, this is way above my scientific pay grade, so I'm not sure how you go about this, but he devised this mathematical formula to predict the movements of the pollen and used that to generate an electronic sound, and that was Brown Noise.

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225.427 - 230.428 Josh

Yeah, well, other people who came used his formula to generate sound. I don't understand it either.

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230.448 - 238.971 Chuck

Yeah, so the sound of brown noise is literally the formula for the sound of pollen moving, which is just kooky to think about.

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239.091 - 240.771 Josh

It is, but it's pretty cool, too.

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241.171 - 242.912 Chuck

It's a good fact of the show, I think.

242.932 - 256.997 Josh

Yeah, I mean, it's all math, so technically you could use math to translate into other kinds of math, I'm guessing. But just the idea of, yeah... Figuring out how random movements can turn into sound is just, I love that stuff.

257.678 - 258.818 Chuck

Yeah, me too.

258.958 - 261.9 Josh

Let's talk about this offline, Chuck, while we take a break.

262.621 - 262.861 Chuck

All right.

Chapter 5: What is white noise and its natural equivalents?

326.797 - 344.963 Chuck

Well, we just had a great conversation about brown noise offline, but now we're going to talk about white noise, the higher cousin to brown noise. Obviously, it does have a range. It's not like it's just high frequency, but it's not as bass heavy. They have the lows in there. They have the The mids and the highs.

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346.164 - 360.977 Chuck

But white noise is used, aside from just sleeping a lot of times with like noise-canceling headphones and stuff, masking other sounds. This one is akin naturally to like a light rain or a gentle breeze through the trees. Very nice. Sounds kind of nice too. Mm-hmm.

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361.758 - 379.576 Josh

One of the coolest things I learned ever is that in Kyoto, Japan, there is a the sound of wind blowing through bamboo in this one park is a protected heritage site. Like the sound itself is protected as a world heritage site.

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380.58 - 405.739 Chuck

Yeah, I think I remember talking about that game I played, Ghost of Tsushima. I think that's what it's called. It was the sort of feudal Japanese warrior PS4 game that I played. The sounds in that game, it's a gorgeous game, but the sounds of the wind blowing through the poppy fields and through the bamboo forest, you could tell it was a thing that they really wanted to capture, and they did so.

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405.759 - 408.441 Josh

That's cool. I think you're confusing that with Q-Bert.

409.302 - 415.16 Chuck

Yeah. Dying. Dying. All right. What about pink noise?

Chapter 6: Are there any unique sound heritage sites?

415.34 - 433.699 Josh

Pink noise is a little different. It's kind of like the compromise between white noise and brown noise because the white noise includes all frequencies. A lot of people are like, I don't like those high frequencies, especially when I'm trying to sleep. But I'm not down with just nothing but the low bass heavy stuff. Give me some mid range.

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434.179 - 441.481 Josh

And maybe accentuate the lower and higher things a little bit, but not too much. And if you do that kind of stuff, you have pink noise.

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442.501 - 469.15 Chuck

Yeah. And, you know, I just realized I have my app here. I might as well figure out what pink noise sounds like because I wasn't exactly sure. So we can just play this if that's all right with you. Yeah, go ahead. So that's pink. Yeah. That's white. Yeah, it could be pink. I mean, that does sound like ocean waves. That's brown. Okay.

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469.81 - 483.88 Chuck

But my app has a bunch of other colors, and I'm not sure if this is like, hey, let's just go crazy, but there's also purple noise, blue noise. Which app? Are you talking about Dwellspring? No, no, no. This is a different one. But, yeah, our friend actually developed a white noise app, right?

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483.92 - 508.028 Josh

Yeah, it's called Dwellspring. The guy who created our website, Brandon Reed, friend of the show and just friend in general, and also one-time world record holder, Guinness record holder of the 400-meter piggyback. Man, what a dude. Yeah, he created just a world-class sound generator app. And in addition to all the different colored noises, he also has things like a box fan.

509.028 - 510.69 Josh

The airplane cabin sound.

511.31 - 515.735 Chuck

That's the one I use on my app. But I forgot Brandon had his. I'm going to switch over just to support.

515.755 - 522.161 Josh

Yeah, it's really great. I mean, like, it's a really good app. The one that got me was crackling fireplace in a thunderstorm.

523.082 - 528.167 Chuck

Oh, buddy. That is niche. Yeah, exactly. So that just put me to sleep thinking about it.

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