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#566 - Zombie Wife - Springfield, Tennessee

Sat, 01 Feb 2025

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This week, in Springfield, Tennessee, a very calm 911 call, in the middle of the night, reveals a man who claims to have killed his wife, and put her in a freezer... only to have her "come back to life", causing him to flee. What detectives discover is a horrible scene, and a VERY dead woman. What happened? Will they catch this man?? It's an absolutley wild story!!Along the way, we find out that this town is a mecca for country music video filming, that it's extremely weird to give a 911 dispatcher a totally calm recounting of a murder, and that if you shoot someone, partially dismember, and freeze them, they definitely aren't coming back to life!!New episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: [email protected] to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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2.264 - 18.057 James Petrogallo

Hey everybody, just going to take a quick break from the show to tell you a little bit about Shutterfly. If you're like us, you take a lot of pictures because you have a camera right in your hand all the time. How would you not take a lot of pictures? And we're taking all these pictures more than we've ever taken in the history of the world. What are you going to do with them all?

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18.317 - 33.172 James Petrogallo

That's the thing. You used to get a solid picture, and then you'd look through them, and you could enjoy them. Now they're, like, back on your camera roll. You can't even find them. You don't want that. That's why the cool thing you need to do, and what I did, and I think it's pretty cool, is create a Shutterfly photo book. Oh.

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33.252 - 52.439 James Petrogallo

What I did, and you're going to enjoy this, Jimmy, because I haven't showed this to you yet, but... Took all of our pictures from being on tour this year. All live show pictures, us backstage, us on stage doing all that stuff and like some of the just the venues and things and made a little photo book out of that. Also, they have free 24 hour designer service as well.

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70.292 - 71.253 Jimmy Wistman

And now back to the show.

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74.517 - 95.085 James Petrogallo

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95.485 - 100.887 James Petrogallo

And, yes, I know that you've had your own personalized program here that you've been working on.

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101.347 - 109.873 Jimmy Wistman

And it's weight loss that... This is weight loss results that last. They stick around because you get yourself into a lifestyle change.

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109.913 - 123.526 James Petrogallo

That's what matters. That's mainly it. You can't just say, I'm going to cut that out for a month and then go back. Can't do it. That's not what it is. Bet you don't. So I'm glad it's helping you. That's great. And it really does. I like the psychology and biology-based approach here. Noom weight uses psychology.

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123.806 - 150.445 James Petrogallo

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194.773 - 206.986

Hello everybody and welcome back to Small Town Murder Express!

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212.603 - 235.517 James Petrogallo

yay choo-choo oh yay indeed jimmy yay indeed my name is james petrogallo i'm here with my co-host i'm jimmy wistman thank you folks so much for joining us today on another wild edition of small town murder express as it always is this this is a crazy story from start to finish and it's a it's a big finish too it's a wild one so you're gonna like this one first of all before we get to that

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235.737 - 248.827 James Petrogallo

Definitely head to shutupandgivememurder.com. Tickets for live shows are available. 2025 is all laid out. Pittsburgh, February 7th. You're the first show of the year. It's the Oakland, what is it, Carnegie Hall.

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249.007 - 249.668 Jimmy Wistman

Carnegie, yeah.

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249.788 - 265.379 James Petrogallo

And Oakland. Carnegie Music Hall in Oakland. Get your tickets. The next night is sold out in Columbus, so you can't get there. We're going to drive from Pittsburgh to Columbus, so you can drive from Columbus to Pittsburgh and see us. How about that? We'll cross you the next day. We'll drive back with you the next day. We'll wave at you. So, yeah, do that. Come see us there.

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265.459 - 285.215 James Petrogallo

Also, all the other ones later in the year. A lot of them are close to sold out. Madison, Portland, Seattle, D.C., Philly. Get your tickets if you want them because they're selling quick. Shut up and give me murder.com. Also, listen to our other two shows, Crime in Sports and Your Stupid Opinions, where it's hilarious where we do reviews from everything all over the Internet.

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285.595 - 305.783 James Petrogallo

And then also you want Patreon. Patreon.com slash crime in sports is where you get all the bonus material. Anybody $5 a month or above, you get a huge catalog of back bonus material you've never heard before. Hundreds of episodes. Then you get new ones every other week. One crime in sports, one small town murder.

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305.803 - 325.589 James Petrogallo

And this week is no different for crime in sports, which you're going to have access to. We're going to talk about the whole Kobe Bryant debacle in Colorado. where he was accused of some serious shit and denied it, and it cost him a $6 million ring in the end. So we'll talk all about that. Oh, bad one. And then for Small Town Murder, it is internet salad time again.

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325.609 - 342.552 James Petrogallo

We're going to go over the internet, and it's going to be just like we do before we go on the air, basically. We sit and we joke about everything, everything except politics, because we do this at times when all that's out there is political news, and we're like, well, what if people want to hear dumb stuff? What about you?

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342.673 - 362.545 James Petrogallo

So we'll take your mind off of anything for a while with an internet salad. Patreon.com slash crime in sports. There you go. And you get a shout out at the end of the regular show too. Jimmy will mess your name all up even though he wants to get it right. That said, it's hard. Names are hard. I'm sorry. They're hard. From someone who has to read like town names and stuff. It's hard.

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362.705 - 364.386 James Petrogallo

There's a lot of pronunciations.

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364.727 - 368.569 Jimmy Wistman

I just bought four books, James. I've just been staring at them.

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368.589 - 389.713 James Petrogallo

The covers, you mean. Yeah. I think it's time to sit back, everybody. Take a deep breath. Here we go. Arms to the sky. And let's all shout. Shut up and give me murder. Let's do this, everybody. Here we go. Let's go on a trip, shall we? Let's do it. All right. We're going to Tennessee today.

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390.253 - 413.23 James Petrogallo

We're going to Springfield, Tennessee, which is the one of many, many, many, many Springfields in this country. I don't know what that's about. It's we I don't know why that is a very popular name, as we know from like the Simpson stuff when they did the you know, which Springfield is it? It's, you know, 75 different Springfields came forward there. So this is just outside Nashville is a suburb.

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413.25 - 436.902 James Petrogallo

It's about 35 minutes out to Nashville. That's so really, if you think about it in traffic, it's about four and a half hours if you've ever been to Nashville. Yeah. It's about four hours to Cosby, Tennessee, which was our last episode. Attack of the Death Twins, which was crazy, obviously. The Death Twins, you want to listen to that one. Population here, 18,561. So not too big, not too small.

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436.922 - 438.403 James Petrogallo

A medium town here.

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438.423 - 439.123 Jimmy Wistman

A lot of commuters.

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439.503 - 452.808 James Petrogallo

Definitely. Well, the median household income here, though, is pretty low, actually, for right outside Nashville. It's 50,655, which is almost... A lot of bartenders. That's what it seems like. Almost 20,000 people who can't afford to live in Nashville proper, I guess. I don't know.

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452.868 - 455.449 Jimmy Wistman

We're in there on fucking Broadway every night, though.

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455.489 - 477.922 James Petrogallo

That's almost 20,000 less than the national average, though. Median home price here, $299,300, which is a lot cheaper than Nashville, too. I think that's what it is. And the motto here, well, there's two of them, actually. One is, welcome to real Tennessee. OK, which anybody really say that? Yes. Which anybody who lives like in the sticks would be like you're in Nashville. Shut up. Yeah.

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478.282 - 482.907 James Petrogallo

You're like 20 minutes from, you know, a famous person's bar. I don't want to hear that shit.

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484.149 - 486.231 Jimmy Wistman

And then also lives down the street from you, fucker.

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487.232 - 490.556 James Petrogallo

And then also world's finest dark fired tobacco.

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492.345 - 493.306 Jimmy Wistman

You got that.

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493.907 - 510.182 James Petrogallo

World's finest right here. Dark fire. Dark fire, apparently. Toast them in dark fire. History of this town. The courthouse for the county, Robertson County Courthouse, was completed in 1879. And then they put a big clock tower, which is kind of

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510.562 - 536.509 James Petrogallo

what this town is known for is their clock tower in the center of town like you know back to the future style they pop that in in 1930 and then they put it on the historic list of national register of historic places in 1978 so that'll be there for a while in 1923 they hosted a minor league baseball team of kentucky illinois tennessee league called the springfield blanket makers

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537.669 - 543.672 James Petrogallo

Nothing strikes fear in the heart of opponents like facing a team full of blanket makers.

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545.213 - 547.494 Jimmy Wistman

Now, here's some fucking quilters.

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548.815 - 565.283 James Petrogallo

Now, they have that old school downtown. It's got the clock tower and all that. This is a very kind of Americana looking small town. So there has been a shitload of things filmed here, mainly country music videos, because that's, you know, they're looking to pretend they're from here. So, you know.

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566.483 - 588.662 James Petrogallo

i'm from this tiny town even though i live in nashville yeah okay even though i live in la yeah i love these guys live in fucking brentwood and they're like doing videos in this town no i mean my 40 acres no My God. Luke Bryan did a video here. Yeah, of course he did. But I got a beer in my hand is the video. I don't know anything about these.

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589.182 - 604.549 James Petrogallo

Lainey Wilson did one called, she sounds like a drunk and it's called Watermelon Moonshine. I was like, Lainey Wilson sounds like a girl. Like, I know this chick Lainey, she's kind of a drunk, but before she gets really tanked, she's a nice girl. She's a nice lady and then she turns into a drunk and...

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605.18 - 607.702 Jimmy Wistman

Small hint to piss because she doesn't wipe after she pees.

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608.142 - 612.584 James Petrogallo

And by 1 a.m. she'll swing on you, so watch out for that. You want to separate by 12.

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612.624 - 615.166 Jimmy Wistman

She seems like a tough broad.

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615.206 - 625.172 James Petrogallo

Then Tyler Hubbard did, I don't know who that is, Small Town Me. Ashley Cook, with an E, did Running Back at the High School.

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625.973 - 626.594 Jimmy Wistman

Running back.

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626.714 - 630.019 James Petrogallo

Running back. Running on back. Running on back to high school. Then she did all.

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630.299 - 637.05 Jimmy Wistman

I get it because these things like to do double meaning of running back. So she's running back to a guy, but he was probably the running back.

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637.735 - 668.928 James Petrogallo

probably i'm sure if this yeah jesus christ uh she also did dirt on him on main street there dirt on him like her boots like her boots or her ass maybe uh frito-lay commercial they did here uh dan and shay i don't know who that is steal my love uh ingrid andrus yeah More hearts than mine. Tim McGraw, Neon Church. Of course. Lady Antebellum. They're awful. Jesus Christ. Goodbye, town.

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668.948 - 682.318 James Petrogallo

They're not Lady Ajax. Oh, I know they are. It's gross. Yeah, yeah. Kit Moore's Young Love. Awful. And then a Violent Heart feature film with Mary J. Blige was in it. That's weird. Oh.

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683.158 - 708.046 James Petrogallo

that's interesting um nashville nashville the abc show um still the king which is a sitcom with billy ray cyrus great holy shit he's a mess the last days of frank and jesse james from 86 that stars willie nelson johnny cash and chris christopherson there that's pretty neat i've never seen that somehow i don't know how the hell we missed that one i've never even heard of it quickly reviews of this town there's a few that are good though uh five stars

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709.537 - 724.252 James Petrogallo

Stick with me here because this one is real messed up in the words. It's dangerous down-ner, N-U-R, down-ner. I guess that's there in down there.

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724.372 - 725.192 Jimmy Wistman

Sounded it out.

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725.932 - 757.068 James Petrogallo

If you don't know when you is a you, by the way, if you don't know, were you going W you are, were you going somebody's fucking with us or were, and that's spelled regularly. W E R E. You at gotta get, get at, get out of there and don't go to 21. If you not about that, They're serious. This is not a joke, I don't think. That's not a joke. That's the best they can do. That's what I really think.

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757.228 - 758.911 Jimmy Wistman

Don't go to 21 if you're not about that.

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759.682 - 782.8 James Petrogallo

Alright then, I'll stay out of 21 because I don't think I'm about that. And that is T-H-E-T. I don't think I'm about that. I might be about that, but not that. I don't have that. I don't have that. I ain't got it. Three stars. I live in Springfield. That's good. At first it was peaceful and nothing really going wrong. Nothing really wrong going on, but it's like everything changed overnight.

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783.1 - 799.17 James Petrogallo

There was a car chase on my road and they literally drove through my yard. Well, the whole town's gone to shit because there's one car chase. Maybe Luke Bryan was just filming a video. That's it. Maybe you should have cheered him on as he drove by, tore up your lawn. Very scary. Now I'm hearing of more and more vehicle thefts.

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799.45 - 809.876 James Petrogallo

Hearing of, by the way, which is just my friend told me she heard a car got stolen. I love Springfield, but we may have to move. You know, I heard of some stuff. It was a car chase.

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809.996 - 811.257 Unknown

The rumors are making me scared.

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811.717 - 838.631 James Petrogallo

wow this is how dumb people are springfield parks are beautiful though nothing negative about them i had my gender reveal at j travis park it was a beautiful day and the kids got to play and feed the ducts not the ducks the ducts they got to feed them here you go you know that makes them keep blowing the cool air the way you like you gotta feed them once in a while three stars it's a good place to love as long as you have friends

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839.924 - 864.78 James Petrogallo

No one has spelled everything correctly. They're all idiots. They're all idiots. This is crazy. What the fuck is happening? Oh. Okay. Then finally, two stars. Gotta get through this. You'll either die of heart disease or a meth lab explosion here. That's terrific. Those are your two top causes of death. They go, we got a body on the ground like heart disease or meth lab. Meth lab, okay.

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865.981 - 868.222 Jimmy Wistman

Are they charred or is it on the inside?

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868.242 - 886.131 James Petrogallo

Where is it? I've lived in Springfield my entire life and the place could use a few improvements to say the least. With all of the communities around Nashville have grown and drastically improved, Springfield remains very much the same as it was before Nashville blossomed. This is a telltale sign that things probably aren't going the way they should.

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886.551 - 908.319 James Petrogallo

The only reason that people should move here is that the housing prices are fairly inexpensive. However, the transplants who move to the Nashville area must be smart because they're moving everywhere except here. They're avoiding this place like the fucking plague is what they just said. That is amazing. And there's one, this person that says they live in constant fear.

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908.639 - 926.489 James Petrogallo

A man was shot right in front of my house recently. Whoa. I don't think things are going well here. No. Things to do, very quickly, the Sunflower Festival. And I say very quickly because there really isn't shit. There's hay rides around a farm. Yeah. Ten acres of sunflowers to view. God.

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926.789 - 927.009 Unknown

Damn.

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948.327 - 975.417 James Petrogallo

We're going to go to. So everything's the same. Pretty much. Your phone looks the same. Everything's the same. You know, same shit here. Joseph Leonard Parker. Let's talk about. All right. Joe Parker. Joe's born December of 1968, December 27th to be exact here. Joe's kind of a decent sized guy, six foot tall, 200 pounds. He ends up meeting his wife, Samantha, through a mutual friend.

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976.077 - 1000.627 James Petrogallo

So a friend of theirs said, I think you two would go good together and kind of set them up on a blind date. Beautiful. Next thing you know, they're going to get married, so that's nice. Of course. He meets Samantha K. Klaus, with a C, C-L-O-U-S-E, Klaus. Oh. And she's born on August 16, 1970. She's originally from Ohio, Galleon, Ohio, G-A-L-I-O-N. I don't know.

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1000.747 - 1006.489 James Petrogallo

I never heard of that before, but I don't know where it is, but it's there. It's small. Her parents are David and Peggy Ann.

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1007.67 - 1007.85 Jimmy Wistman

Oh.

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1008.671 - 1017.924 James Petrogallo

Isn't that very, yeah. I've never heard Peggy Ann. Peggy Ann is like the most middle America thing you could ever get. There's Peggy and there's something Ann and she's Peggy Ann.

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1017.964 - 1019.846 Jimmy Wistman

Peggy Sue, but I've never heard of Peggy Ann.

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1020.087 - 1021.629 James Petrogallo

Peggy Ann is even more like

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1022.352 - 1025.693 Jimmy Wistman

Yeah, that's more small town. That's a smaller town than small town.

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1025.873 - 1032.934 James Petrogallo

Yeah, Peggy Sue is like, you fucking provincial bitch. What are you doing? This is crazy.

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1033.714 - 1035.334 Jimmy Wistman

Oh, highfalutin Peggy Sue.

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1035.594 - 1057.142 James Petrogallo

Peggy Sue thinking you're hot shit, looking down her nose at everybody, all the Peggy Ann's of the world. Yeah. She's got three brothers, Sam does. Samantha goes by Sam, by the way. She's got three brothers, and she attended Greenbrier High School. That's about the background on her. She's known as kind of a very outgoing, socially person. She'll talk to everybody.

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1057.242 - 1071.234 James Petrogallo

She's worked in, like, stores, and she's known as, like, all the regulars know her, and she's, you know, real kind of socially outgoing. He seems less than socially outgoing, which is odd because he's a salesman.

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1072.215 - 1072.916 Jimmy Wistman

Yeah, what the fuck, dude?

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1072.936 - 1077.279 James Petrogallo

Which is very strange. So maybe he's socially outgoing at work but not at home.

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1077.299 - 1079.041 Jimmy Wistman

At home, he's like, I've done enough of that.

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1079.349 - 1103.162 James Petrogallo

Yeah, that's what I mean. I mean, I can relate to that. It would be pretty outgoing here on the road, but then at home I'm like, all right, leave me alone. Let's all relax. So they get married in 2002. Okay. Now, she worked at Baker's Market for several years where she would be the greeter in the morning. And everybody said she was outgoing. She never met a stranger.

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1103.882 - 1122.474 James Petrogallo

She's very, very much into football also. Big football fan. Loves it. Loves Alabama, college football, Crimson Tide, and Tennessee Titans football, which makes sense because that's where they play. So, yeah, that would make perfect sense here. Her daughter, Mackenzie. Mackenzie, by the way, I don't know if –

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1123.915 - 1153.103 James Petrogallo

mackenzie is their daughter together but she is definitely her daughter it's definitely her daughter but mackenzie's last name is parker so i don't know if he adopted her or if they had her 10 years before they got married or what but she's you know she's in her early 20s in 2014 so and they got married in 2002 so i like i said i don't know if they had a long-term relationship before that or if she brought her into the relationship and it was just like you know he adopted her and that's dad now i'm not sure okay

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1153.343 - 1154.564 Jimmy Wistman

Oh, they got the same last name. Got it.

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1154.864 - 1180.474 James Petrogallo

Yeah, the daughter has the husband's last name. So she said, my mom's an Alabama roll tide kind, a loving kind of woman. Yeah, that's what she said. She's all into that. Now, like I said, Mackenzie born in 1991 here. Now, neighbors describe them and we'll get to their house and all that. We know exactly where they lived and everything. Neighbors described the couple as quiet and introverted.

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1181.34 - 1185.343 James Petrogallo

But not rude. Just they'll wave to you if you drive by.

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1185.363 - 1186.263 Jimmy Wistman

Keep to themselves a little.

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1186.483 - 1199.272 James Petrogallo

They keep to themselves, which is strange because at both of their jobs, they both have to be super outgoing. So it's very strange. And at home, they are both considered by all their neighbors and people who like them as, you know, they're nice people. They keep to themselves type of deal.

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1199.292 - 1200.573 Jimmy Wistman

Switch it on and switch it off.

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1201.253 - 1206.497 James Petrogallo

One friend said they didn't go out very often and they seem to prefer each other's company to others.

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1206.537 - 1207.057 Jimmy Wistman

That's nice.

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1207.177 - 1214.621 James Petrogallo

Which is great. That's awesome. He sells used Toyotas. Oh, these ones. That's his job. Yes, apparently.

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1214.721 - 1216.981 Jimmy Wistman

It's a great gig. That's the best used car to sell. Shit.

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1217.081 - 1232.004 James Petrogallo

Yeah, they last forever, and you can make decent money selling used cars. That's not bad. But it's obviously not the – it doesn't have the best stigma to it. People don't go, oh, you're a used car salesman? Awesome. High five. Wow. Sexy.

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1232.344 - 1233.784 Unknown

Find me a Corolla.

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1233.904 - 1237.085 James Petrogallo

I mean, it's literally a cliche. A crisis guy is like a used car salesman.

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1237.825 - 1238.005 Unknown

Yeah.

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1238.525 - 1260.959 James Petrogallo

So that's tough. But they seem to have a happy marriage. They are both extremely proud of Mackenzie, the daughter. There's never any problems there. You know, the daughter says she's loved by both parents and came up in a loving environment and everything else like that. But. There's some stress approaching, and we'll talk about that in 2014, some stress in the marriage.

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1261.779 - 1273.348 James Petrogallo

They buy a house in 2006 when they buy this, four years after they get married. They bought it for $139,000 in 2006, so top of the market back then.

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1274.069 - 1274.329 Jimmy Wistman

Yeah.

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1274.349 - 1275.029 James Petrogallo

That was at the top.

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1275.169 - 1277.051 Jimmy Wistman

Wow, that's the top, and that's the most it would be worth.

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1277.351 - 1300.009 James Petrogallo

That's the top. Wow. Yeah, because I'll tell you about it later, but that's not too far off of what it was sold for recently. Wow. Yeah, they bought it at the tippy top. It's a three-bedroom, two-bath, 1,549-square-foot house. So a couple with a child, and it's a nice little family house here. It is at 246 Clydesdale Lane in Springfield here.

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1300.209 - 1321.393 James Petrogallo

The current Zestimate is $325,100, by the way, in case you're— That's fantastic. In case you're wondering. So their neighbors here, one neighbor, Chloe, Chloe Crabtree is her name. She's 23. She lived with her parents next door to the Parkers for the last few months. And she described Joseph Parker as a very stern man who kept to himself.

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1322.802 - 1337.697 James Petrogallo

She didn't know him very well, though, so stern might just be like his resting face. You know what I mean? We don't know. This isn't based on... Yeah, it just looks stern and goes in, oh, he's a stern guy. That's how you judge your neighbors. You see him for two seconds and you make a whole backstory out of him.

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1337.717 - 1339.038 Jimmy Wistman

You judge him as he just got off work?

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1339.098 - 1361.239 James Petrogallo

What's wrong with you? As selling used Toyotas? Right. No thanks. I'm not happy. No. This young lady said, I didn't really see them go out. He did. He always parked inside the garage, and I would see him leaving in the mornings. I rarely saw her car leave. They were very quiet, the kind of people who never left the blinds open, which is a good way to describe someone.

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1361.84 - 1367.385 James Petrogallo

There's either blinds open, look in our house, people, or there's leave us the fuck alone, people. It's one of those.

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1367.405 - 1368.706 Jimmy Wistman

I'm blinds closed guy.

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1369.674 - 1395.672 James Petrogallo

yeah that's weird actually because you're is it i know right no for you it's strange i know i know yeah you're it doesn't seem like that but no i got shutters for i don't even have blinds i don't want shutters i shut those motherfuckers so if i wanted if i wanted people to watch what i was doing i'd live in the yard that's my people to watch what i'm doing i'd leave the i'd have no treatments on the way yeah so i hate feeling like i'm in a fishbowl being looked at i don't like that either so and i like dark

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1396.272 - 1418.026 James Petrogallo

Oh, yeah. I love dark. I'll take dark. I'll take some dark, too. So Rhonda Haley lived across the street from the Parkers for about eight years. And she described the Parkers as a bit reclusive, she said. Now we're going full on to reclusive, which is a big step from, you know, not that outgoing to reclusive. Always keeping to themselves.

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1418.627 - 1439.184 James Petrogallo

She said they have a grandson that they know of and a grown daughter because Mackenzie has two little kids by 2014. Yeah. and they've recently thrown a birthday party for the grandson in their front lawn. So they go, that we saw. We know that, so that was nice. Then she said, I never really talked to him, and I never saw him chatting with neighbors or anything.

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1439.665 - 1454.694 James Petrogallo

Usually he'd be working in the yard or working on his car. He would wave or nod at you when you drove by. Sounds like a great neighbor. Leaves you the fuck alone. If you drive by, they're friendly enough to wave at you in case you ever had a problem or something. You know them by face. And they keep to themselves. Terrific.

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1454.734 - 1457.274 Jimmy Wistman

He's in the garage with some grease on him. That's a great guy.

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1457.374 - 1471.559 James Petrogallo

And if they were like loud and having parties and social, they'd be complaining about that. You can do no right with people. You know what I mean? You really can't. Not in your neighborhood. No, you can't. Everybody thinks their neighbors are strange. So they're supposed to be.

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1471.919 - 1497.334 James Petrogallo

So as for the Sam, the wife here, they said this person also said that she rarely left the house, rarely saw Sam leave the house. She hadn't been working either. So now Joseph's had some issues in the past. This is why. I don't know if they had a relationship previously because it sounds like he was kind of a single guy who was out fucking up and then settled down and got married.

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1497.494 - 1508.344 James Petrogallo

Yeah, I found several arrests for him in the past. And nothing major. He didn't go fucking crazy and go punch a bank teller or try to steal the money out of the drawer or anything, but

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1508.464 - 1512.205 Jimmy Wistman

But several low crimes is like – It's a pattern.

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1512.445 - 1531.191 James Petrogallo

It's a pattern. He was arrested for driving under the influence of liquor in April – I'm sorry, in August of 1990. And he ends up doing a plea deal for that. Then again on January of 1991, he's arrested for driving under the influence of liquor.

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1531.251 - 1532.271 Jimmy Wistman

Just a few months later.

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1532.331 - 1555.486 James Petrogallo

That's not good. That's not good. No. Then he was arrested for M.U.N. misdemeanors. Title 59. I don't know what that means. So I looked it up and it said the title 59 of the Tennessee code is about mines and mining, including laws that can result in criminal and civil penalties. For example, making false statements and statistical reports is a violation of title 59.

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1556.927 - 1557.628 Jimmy Wistman

What's he doing?

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1557.728 - 1571.074 James Petrogallo

I don't know. It prohibits making false statements in statistical reports and establishes criminal and civil penalties for violations of the Tennessee Mineral Surface Mining Law. I don't know what the fuck he was doing back then.

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1571.294 - 1574.217 Jimmy Wistman

He's selling Toyotas. What's he talking about minerals for?

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1574.717 - 1596.056 James Petrogallo

Maybe that falls under the rolling back odometers or something. That's possible. Maybe. The making false statements in statistical reports, but it's not mining. This is about the mining industries. Maybe he was into mining before that. We don't know. I don't know. There's a reckless driving also he's busted for. Bad driver. Bad driver. Then in... This isn't great. Then in... Oh, wow.

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1596.136 - 1600.164 James Petrogallo

October of 1993, patronizing a prostitute he's arrested for.

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1600.564 - 1601.847 Jimmy Wistman

He had a tough few years.

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1601.867 - 1623.991 James Petrogallo

He had a few years where he was drinking and going, looking for comfort in the wrong arms and everything else here. So Mackenzie's born in 91. It doesn't sound like they were like together and having a serious relationship during this time. And if they were, then Sam is a very forgiving person. She's a sweetheart. Then in 98, he's busted for improper tag, which whatever.

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1624.031 - 1631.475 James Petrogallo

Who gives a shit about that? I don't care about that. So there we go. The little things. See what I mean? Nothing crazy. We go red flag. Look out for this guy.

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1632.035 - 1633.436 Jimmy Wistman

He went through some shit there for a minute.

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1633.536 - 1653.241 James Petrogallo

He obviously, yeah, had a little bit of a problem. And he was a young man at that point, too. He was in his 20s. I mean, people go through shit. Yeah, he seemed to have his shit together by now anyway, or at least by the 2000s. But by 2014, things are not going swimmingly at all. Joe has been laid off from the Toyota dealership.

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1653.761 - 1654.301 Jimmy Wistman

Oh, fuck.

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1654.441 - 1679.495 James Petrogallo

That's not good. And the house is inching toward foreclosure. Not good. He figured he would be able to find a solution, but the months tick by and nothing's coming up. He's not getting any other jobs. Bills are piling up that they can't afford to pay. And now he didn't know what to do. His house then ends up going into foreclosure. So he's going to lose everything here.

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1679.555 - 1697.663 James Petrogallo

These people are going to lose their home and everything else. So this is a lot of pressure on a relationship, obviously. By the way, never any domestic disputes or anything like that. The daughter says they don't fight. Neighbors don't hear them screaming at each other. This isn't the house where, oh, God, those two are going to kill each other one of these days. It's not that house.

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1697.723 - 1703.425 James Petrogallo

Oh, they're doing it again. Yeah. So as their anniversary approaches, their 12th wedding anniversary is approaching.

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1704.605 - 1707.146 Jimmy Wistman

This one doesn't matter. We don't have any money.

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1707.166 - 1708.646 James Petrogallo

We're not going to have a house.

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1708.966 - 1709.987 Jimmy Wistman

We're going to lose our home.

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1710.087 - 1730.993 James Petrogallo

Fuck. So that's approaching in 2014. And the financial shit is really starting to get to everybody, really. He said, Joe is telling people that he had talked to that the inability to meet what his wife expects of him is really kind of bumming him out, basically. He feels like he's a loser and he feels like he's...

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1731.813 - 1754.76 James Petrogallo

a failure and that's how everybody anybody feels at that point so on the day of their anniversary apparently he's just really really really on edge and stressed and tight as a fucking drum at this point november 4th is their big day november 4th 2014 is their 12th wedding anniversary so nobody hears from him for a couple of days

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1756.836 - 1777.501 James Petrogallo

from their anniversary people you leave them alone on their anniversary and then they kind of both of them kind of drop out of communication for a couple days but that's not abnormal for them they can be a little reclusive so if they don't get back to you in two days they'll get back to you in three don't worry about it yeah Then on November 7th, 2014, early in the a.m.

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1777.541 - 1800.419 James Petrogallo

So this is the night of the 6th, really, if we're thinking about it in terms of how humans do things. Joseph at 2.45 a.m. calls 911. 911. Okay. And it says some wild shit. And his tone is very much like, hello. He sounds like he's politely ordering pizza. That's what he sounds like.

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1800.559 - 1824.456 James Petrogallo

Or like trying to be extra polite at the Chinese place so they understand what he's fucking saying and you can get the order right. That's what he sounds like, literally. So they say, 911, what's the location of your emergency? And he says, yeah, which is a great start to a 911 call. It's a Southern thing, though. Yeah. Should I be even doing this? He says 246 Clydesdale Lane.

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1825.911 - 1849.644 James Petrogallo

She says, can you spell it for me? He says, C-L-Y-D-E-S-D-A-L-E. And they said, you're in Springfield. And he said, yes, Springfield, Tennessee. It's out by Oakland Farms. By the way, oh boy, is there an argument over what fucking subdivision this is in with the neighbors later. It is hilarious. What people argue about on the internet will be our downfall as a world.

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1850.339 - 1852.179 Jimmy Wistman

It's not even in that neighborhood.

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1852.279 - 1873.063 James Petrogallo

It's crazy. So the dispatch says, okay, what's going on? And had no idea what she was about to hear on the other end. He said, quote, all right, this is what's happened. Oh, boy. We've been married 12 years. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Here we go. All right, this is what's happened.

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1873.083 - 1874.863 Jimmy Wistman

So I got married 12 years ago. Uh-oh.

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1874.963 - 1905.44 James Petrogallo

Uh-oh. All right is just as bad as yeah, by the way, for an opener here. We've been married 12 years. On the 4th, which would have been two nights ago at 4 a.m., I shot my wife in the temple of her head. I thought I'd killed her and I put her in the freezer out in the garage. Okay. Now the 911 is just silent like, I'm taking this all in.

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1905.58 - 1921.914 James Petrogallo

You don't want to interrupt somebody while they're telling you this shit. So he says, quote, I checked on her tonight and she's not dead. Okay. Yeah. Let's fucking unpack this. He is saying, I shot my wife in the temple two days ago with a .38, by the way.

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1922.374 - 1923.075 Jimmy Wistman

God damn.

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1923.815 - 1928.079 James Petrogallo

And then I put her in a fucking freezer for two days and she's alive. That's what he's saying.

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1928.641 - 1929.742 Jimmy Wistman

Zero degrees in there.

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1930.082 - 1958.486 James Petrogallo

Frozen solid, but alive. Okay. She's not dead. She's got a big hole in the temple of her head. And to get her body moved around in there, I think I broke her wrist. Real calm. He says, you know, she was frozen. First of all, they don't know. We have no idea. You're the only one who knows. Yeah, all right, and you know. All bad starts.

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1959.586 - 1960.627 Jimmy Wistman

Very casual.

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1961.267 - 1967.636 James Petrogallo

This whole thing is like, yeah, I'll take a large pepperoni. Let me get one of those dinner salads.

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1968.537 - 1971.642 Jimmy Wistman

What's your specials with pizza and breadsticks?

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1971.662 - 1976.188 James Petrogallo

Yeah, breadsticks. How are your breadsticks? Yeah, let's get an order of those in there, too. Why not? Extra ranch, thanks.

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1976.869 - 1978.211 Jimmy Wistman

Boy, is he good at small talk.

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1978.431 - 1997.567 James Petrogallo

He's a salesman. Yeah. So he says, yeah, to get her body moved around in there, I think I broke her wrist. You know, she was frozen from being in the thing. She's been in the thing for 48 hours now. This is no crank call, which is probably important to say at this point.

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1998.448 - 1999.529 Jimmy Wistman

I'm not fucking around.

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1999.649 - 2008.554 James Petrogallo

And the casualness of his voice, you need to say it's not a crank call because he sounds so casual. You're like, get the fuck out of here. This guy is full of shit.

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2009.155 - 2009.515 Jimmy Wistman

Wow.

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2010.436 - 2014.058 James Petrogallo

Wow. This is no crank call. I need somebody to get out there and help her out.

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2015.526 - 2016.206 Jimmy Wistman

Help her out.

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2016.306 - 2040.57 James Petrogallo

Help her out. I've cleared the premises. I got away, you know, I suppose you're telling me I'm not going to be there. But I promise you this is a legit call and I need somebody to get out there and help her because I love I still love her. And it's hard, hard to believe that after that, you know, but I need you to get somebody out there to help her.

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2042.391 - 2042.631 Jimmy Wistman

OK, man.

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2044.767 - 2051.492 James Petrogallo

So 9-1-1 is on the other line. By the way, he had shot her in the fucking temple with a .38 caliber handgun.

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2052.052 - 2052.233 Jimmy Wistman

Yeah.

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2052.413 - 2063.921 James Petrogallo

They got in an argument. That's what happened. And he, by the way, we'll wait until it comes up and we'll talk about it. They said, dispatch goes, okay.

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2064.462 - 2064.742 Jimmy Wistman

Yeah.

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2065.522 - 2074.243 James Petrogallo

All righty. Okay. What happened to cause you to do that? He says, it's a long story. I don't want to get into it.

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2075.065 - 2077.671 Jimmy Wistman

I don't want to get into it. It's a whole ass book, lady.

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2078.473 - 2095.157 James Petrogallo

I don't want to get into it. This is the time to get into it, bro. I don't want to get into it. Just want to get into getting somebody out there to help her. I left the front door open. I left all the lights on in the house, so it would be kind of easy to spot.

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2095.797 - 2096.657 Jimmy Wistman

You'd be able to see things.

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2096.677 - 2106.779 James Petrogallo

That's nice. It's the last house on the right on Clydesdale Lane. But I left the front door open, and she's in the garage. You go through the kitchen to get into the garage.

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2106.799 - 2106.959 Jimmy Wistman

Oh, shoot.

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2109.588 - 2112.931 James Petrogallo

He's like, there's Pepsis in the fridge on the way through there. You can grab some if you want. Don't worry.

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2112.971 - 2114.352 Jimmy Wistman

In the garage, it's full of beers.

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2114.372 - 2132.789 James Petrogallo

Just got a 12-pack. Yeah, Jesus Christ. So you'll see her once you get in the garage, and she's a mess, he says. She can't talk. No. No. He's saying she's alive, which when we find out what happened- Wow.

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2132.809 - 2134.81 Jimmy Wistman

No way she's alive, huh?

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2134.87 - 2143.414 James Petrogallo

No, no, no, no, no. She's a mess. She can't talk. I could get her to blink. By what? Shaking the freezer around? What are you talking about?

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2144.315 - 2145.616 Jimmy Wistman

Those things are frozen.

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2146.416 - 2150.658 James Petrogallo

Blink once means yes. Blink twice means no.

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2151.659 - 2152.859 Jimmy Wistman

We had a whole conversation.

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2153.199 - 2156.041 James Petrogallo

We chit-chatted for a bit. She was chilly, so I said, okay.

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2157.028 - 2158.188 Jimmy Wistman

Do you need a sweater?

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2158.368 - 2175.433 James Petrogallo

Yeah. No? Okay. Blink twice. No? All right. So I told her I'm going to go down the road 10 to 15 miles, and I'm going to call 911 and get you some help out here. That's out of his mind. I'm going to take off, and there'll be people here.

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2175.553 - 2176.333 Jimmy Wistman

Where else are you going to be?

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2179.093 - 2204.93 James Petrogallo

he said i've um i thought i thought she's been dead two days now um and when i checked on her she was still alive she's been frozen for two days wow there's no way somebody's alive for two days no freezer you know frozen solid and especially with what he did also 38 in your head and among the other shit and um and when i checked on her she was still alive He's like, how weird is that?

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2205.37 - 2224.244 James Petrogallo

His voice is like, strange, right? She's been frozen for two days. She's frozen solid. It's amazing she's still alive. I would say so, yeah. Absolutely. He said, I shot her with, oh, she's got a big hole in the temple of her head.

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2224.945 - 2225.165 Jimmy Wistman

Right.

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2225.666 - 2244.647 James Petrogallo

You know, he said, I shot her with a 38 caliber handgun and there's a big hole in the temple of her head. I didn't see an exit wound. So she's got a 38 caliber is bouncing around, tearing her brain up and she's frozen solid. But she's surprisingly fucking stout. Actually, she's hanging in there.

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2245.808 - 2248.689 Jimmy Wistman

I got I got her some Advil and I'll be down the road.

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2248.709 - 2270.472 James Petrogallo

I'll be over here. They say, what is her name? And he says, Samantha Parker. They said, is she a white female? And he says, yes. And they go, OK, how old is she? Forty three. You know, they said, and how long did you leave? How long ago did you leave there? An hour ago. And they said, and that's the last time you saw her. He said, yeah, that's the last time I saw her.

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2271.093 - 2297.184 James Petrogallo

And the dispatch says, and she's in the garage. And Joseph said, yes, she's still in the garage. I made her as comfortable as I could make her. She tried to drink a little water. She's she tried to picture him with a cup trying to pour water in her mouth. You know, it's been and then it's an audible and says, leave her gone. She's she's in bad shape. I really need someone out there to help her.

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2299.42 - 2318.791 James Petrogallo

And they said, and the address is 246 Clydesdale Lane. And he said, yes, ma'am. And they said, OK, what's your name? And he says, my name is Joe, which sounds made up, but it's actually his name. It sounds super made up at that point. I'll just leave it at that. You know, I don't want to get arrested and all that. So, oh, OK.

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2319.372 - 2321.413 Jimmy Wistman

We know who she is. Her husband's name is Joe.

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2321.693 - 2327.877 James Petrogallo

You're calling from your address of the house that you own. I don't want to give away too much info on myself, though.

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2328.433 - 2329.574 Jimmy Wistman

I don't want to tell on me.

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2329.814 - 2335.237 James Petrogallo

I've just told you how I've murdered and defucking and disposed of my dead wife.

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2336.337 - 2336.658 Jimmy Wistman

Yeah.

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2336.898 - 2342.261 James Petrogallo

And told you my address, her name, what's going on. It's our wedding anniversary, but I'll give you a first name.

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2342.321 - 2342.601 Jimmy Wistman

That's it.

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2342.99 - 2347.734 James Petrogallo

I don't want to get arrested. So my name is Joe. Wow.

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2348.274 - 2348.454 Jimmy Wistman

Yeah.

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2365.728 - 2368.55 James Petrogallo

And they said, okay, we'll send someone out there to her.

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2368.91 - 2369.611 Jimmy Wistman

Sure. Well, yeah.

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2369.951 - 2371.993 James Petrogallo

And he says, ma'am, it's like urgent, you know?

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2373.227 - 2395.987 James Petrogallo

we know we know the gunshot wound is frozen solid we get it yeah that's a that's a she's real thirsty immediate medical we'll bring water yeah we'll have him stop for a Fiji don't worry about it I mean she's dying you know she's got a big hole in the temple where the temple of your head is you know what I mean in case in case she doesn't right behind your eye you know the little little soft spot there uh-huh

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2396.187 - 2415.309 James Petrogallo

And Dispatch says, right. Like, yeah, I know what a fucking temple is. And he says, hopefully you know. No, I'm a 911 operator who doesn't know where the temple is. That's, never heard it before. I love her. I still love her, you know? I've loved her every day since I've been married to her.

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2415.409 - 2430.937 James Petrogallo

We just had a rough stretch here, and anyway, checked on her, and she's still alive, and I want somebody to help her that knows what they're doing, and I gotta say I, then inaudible, so. So they said, okay, we'll send somebody out there, and he says, all right, what was your first name?

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2431.697 - 2432.418 Jimmy Wistman

This is not...

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2433.376 - 2434.977 James Petrogallo

You didn't just call customer service.

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2435.777 - 2437.758 Jimmy Wistman

Hi, what's your name? You sound nice. I'm single.

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2439.118 - 2444.12 James Petrogallo

Like they just called the pottery barn for some late shit they ordered from a fucking – like what are you talking about?

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2444.14 - 2447.482 Jimmy Wistman

You say there's one in stock still? What's your first name? What's your first name?

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2448.102 - 2450.843 James Petrogallo

I don't want to call and get somebody else that doesn't. I want to call and get you.

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2450.863 - 2452.243 Jimmy Wistman

We've already gone through this, so –

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2454.625 - 2457.026 James Petrogallo

The dispatcher says, I'm not going to give you my name, sir.

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2457.487 - 2457.727 Jimmy Wistman

No.

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2458.147 - 2472.877 James Petrogallo

No. You fucking little dick. You don't need my name. He said, okay, that's fine. He said, make a note on there that I left the front door open and all the lights are on and to go to the garage. She can't yell for you. She can't yell, but if you go to the garage, that's where you'll see her once you get to the garage.

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2473.158 - 2473.958 Jimmy Wistman

We got it, Joe.

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2474.078 - 2485.686 James Petrogallo

Yeah, because you shot her and then froze her. We got it. And they said, okay, we'll send somebody out there. And he says, she needs, you know, paramedics. Joe. Joe.

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2485.907 - 2487.708 Jimmy Wistman

Fucking verbose son of a bitch. Shut up.

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2487.788 - 2493.272 James Petrogallo

You have made it. Don't ever tell me this guy's reclusive and not conversational.

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2494.193 - 2496.134 Jimmy Wistman

Because... He's the most conversational.

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2496.234 - 2518.417 James Petrogallo

And if you heard his voice is just fucking wild. It's just so like, well, you know, here I am. Like, he called and, like... Like this is a call for nothing. Like I'm just bored on the road and I had no one to talk to. So I called 911 so I wouldn't fall asleep. Like this dispatcher probably thinks this guy, I'm going to get there. There's going to be nothing there. This guy's full of shit.

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2518.457 - 2519.037 James Petrogallo

He's just bored.

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2519.617 - 2523.059 Jimmy Wistman

The road's real icy and I need to keep somebody on the phone in case something happens.

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2523.079 - 2542.728 James Petrogallo

I'm sleepy. You know, it's late night. Keeps me from having a shit a lot. You know what I mean? So, yeah, he says she needs, you know, paramedics. She needs everything. She needs an ambulance. You know, she needs trauma. She's trauma. She's trauma. I've heard she's drama, but I've never heard she's trauma.

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2542.768 - 2545.21 Jimmy Wistman

That's Johnny trauma.

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2545.37 - 2557.24 James Petrogallo

Johnny trauma. Wow. She's a trauma queen. This one real trauma queen. Whoa. I mean, I mean, she's a trauma patient. She might need a helicopter.

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2558.374 - 2560.795 Jimmy Wistman

Okay, Joe, we'll determine that.

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2561.175 - 2579.251 James Petrogallo

You can put her in the back of a pickup truck. It really doesn't matter at this point. I mean, not to disrespect her, but it's not going to hurt her condition is what I'm getting at. She's going to be just as dead when she gets there. You know, so please get somebody to help her. And dispatch says, okay, Joseph, okay, thank you. And he says, okay, and hangs up.

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💬 0

2579.912 - 2583.233 Jimmy Wistman

Yeah, he didn't try to correct her. How'd you know my name's Joseph?

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2584.174 - 2605.487 James Petrogallo

How'd you know Joseph's long for Joe? So police arrive, and Joe is not at home. Like he said, he's gone. They get there. The front door was open. All the lights are on, just like he said. Joseph is not there, just like he said. So they entered. They followed his instructions. They went through the kitchen, went to the garage. What else are you going to do at this point?

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2606.007 - 2620.54 James Petrogallo

So they described the officers who first arrived, described the couple's home as very clean. One says it was immaculate, not a speck of dust, spotless. It was real estate clean. Love that. So he spent the last day and a half cleaning up.

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2620.74 - 2642.61 James Petrogallo

cleaning this place up man um so there's an upright freezer by the way this isn't like a chest freezer it's one of those upright big ones and they found they open it up there's samantha parker frozen fucking solid dead as fuck by the way not even close to alive yeah she has been dead she's frozen solid in there and she's been partially dismembered as well

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2643.556 - 2670.77 James Petrogallo

oh no yeah yeah and they think that happened wrist yeah they think that happened they think that happened in the garage based on you know finding some forensic evidence here so he shot his wife in the in the temple with a 38 yeah put her in a freezer dismembered her put her in a freezer for two days and then called and said she needs paramedics i gave her some water a minute i gave her some water and she blinked yes once for yes and twice for no

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2671.408 - 2672.669 Jimmy Wistman

She's missing things, man.

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2672.929 - 2686.376 James Petrogallo

Dude, this is fucking crazy. They said she'd been dead for days, obviously. It was clear. She was pronounced dead at the scene. You know, they had the county emergency medical services person there because they thought they didn't know what he was mistaken about.

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2687.523 - 2688.683 Jimmy Wistman

What is going on?

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2688.743 - 2697.827 James Petrogallo

Maybe he did shoot her, but it wasn't two days ago. It was just now. You know what I mean? And maybe they do need to help her. Maybe she is alive. Maybe he just put her in this freezer and she's dying in there or something. So they didn't know.

0
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2698.387 - 2710.011 James Petrogallo

But, yeah, they said that basically the Russell Gupton, the Robertson County Emergency Medical Services assistant director, said that he was either lying or imagining things.

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2710.551 - 2710.631 Unknown

Yeah.

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2710.831 - 2735.379 James Petrogallo

It was out of his mind. He said there was no possibility of her being alive at all. Dead as dead can be for a long time. So yeah, they said he had definitely attempted to dismember her in the garage. She was partially dismembered and stuffed into a freezer. Yikes. They said, I don't know if we're going to be able to determine when he killed her exactly, they said, because she's frozen.

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2735.599 - 2758.124 James Petrogallo

That's, you know, that's a tough one. But I would believe him that he probably did it at four o'clock in the morning on their anniversary. Seems right. They said, I'm not sure at this point whether we'll be able to determine how long she's been in the freezer either. So they have no clue. So apparently he contorted his wife into this fucking in a weird position, a fitter in a freezer.

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2758.144 - 2774.312 James Petrogallo

The hole in the side of her head was it's a fucking big hole. It's a 38 to the head. I mean, it's a she's not surviving that, obviously. It's like the opening when they first get to the Gem Saloon in Deadwood when Trixie shoots the guy, except not with a Derringer with a fucking 38.

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2775.416 - 2798.738 James Petrogallo

right so he left her and just carried on with his day after he killed her he's been doing normal shit the last two days that's what's crazy just yep cleaning doing his thing whistling just trying to figure out how to fix it but apparently shit started to unravel with him and he just said i'm gonna go check on her for some reason and he thought she was alive and i I don't know. I don't understand.

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2799.038 - 2816.812 James Petrogallo

She's covered in ice, for Christ's sake. But he said she was blinking. And that was that. So the neighbors, news spreads quickly in this neighborhood, like fire, gone. So they were like, holy shit. One of the neighbors said the last time she saw Joseph Parker was two days ago when he was leaving the home at about 5.30 p.m.

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2817.232 - 2832.983 James Petrogallo

However, she said she noticed something strange at the home at about 1.30 on Friday. She said, I was walking my dog and I saw their back light come on, so someone was definitely in there. And I thought it was unusual because they're never up that early. 1.30 a.m. isn't up early. That's up late.

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2833.003 - 2834.084 Jimmy Wistman

That's staying up late.

0
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2834.164 - 2838.547 James Petrogallo

I would think, yeah, unless they went to bed at 4 o'clock in the afternoon. That's a very odd time to be up.

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2838.567 - 2840.728 Jimmy Wistman

They went to bed at 9 p.m. and they're already awake.

0
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2841.228 - 2863.58 James Petrogallo

Yeah. So it seems like they're not usually up that late is probably what it is. Rhonda Haley across the street from them said it's kind of scary. You just don't see that every morning when you get up that your neighbor has killed his wife. So it's a little unnerving. Something had to have happened to him or her something. So the cops at this point are like, let's give Joe a shout back, shall we?

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2867.482 - 2889.021 James Petrogallo

So they call him back. Dispatchers call him back at about 345 a.m. And they're like, Joe, how's it going, pal? Found your wife super dead, by the way. So you did that right anyway. And they said, you know, where are you? Where are you at, bud? He said, I'm on the interstate to Chattanooga, headed to Chattanooga to visit friends.

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2890.696 - 2891.857 Jimmy Wistman

No, you're not. Okay.

0
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2891.877 - 2894.918 James Petrogallo

I'm just going to go hang out with my friends at 4 o'clock in the morning in Chattanooga.

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2894.938 - 2895.938 Jimmy Wistman

I don't think they want you over.

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2896.578 - 2912.444 James Petrogallo

Probably not now. So, yeah, the person, the communications director, said he told the communications center he was driving to Chattanooga. Sometimes a suspect will lie to the police about his or her whereabouts after a crime, so I'm not sure how valid the information is, they said.

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2912.584 - 2913.004 Jimmy Wistman

Great point.

0
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2913.344 - 2917.946 James Petrogallo

Good point. This guy seems like he at least thinks he's on the road to Chattanooga. I'll put it that way.

0
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2917.966 - 2918.626 Jimmy Wistman

He might be in Chattanooga.

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2918.886 - 2940.722 James Petrogallo

fucking new mexico we have no idea but he thinks he's i'll go into chattanooga to see some friends he then said by the way and this is all in his very calm casual tone he said not only am i on the way to see my friends in chattanooga but i'm also going to drive through uh the car dealership that fired me and kill several people there as well several okay

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2940.922 - 2958.897 James Petrogallo

On the way to Chattanooga to see my friends. You know, I don't want to get all the way to Chattanooga. I have to come back. You know how it goes. I don't want to backtrack. So the Metro Police get over to, they set up a command center at Rivergate Toyota when they search for him. According to officers, he threatened to kill multiple people.

0
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2959.157 - 2967.204 James Petrogallo

So they have tons of cops in there protecting the people at the car dealership when they get to work. And a helicopter circling above the car dealership and everything else.

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2967.224 - 2968.245 Jimmy Wistman

That's a Toyota-thon around here.

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2968.565 - 2988.13 James Petrogallo

it's a fog for christ's sake it's a toyota thon and he's driving a white 2007 toyota camry which must piss him off royally tennessee plate 682 nhf so that's what they're looking the tennessee bureau of investigation immediately adds him to the state's top 10 most wanted list fuck yes

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2988.71 - 3000.342 James Petrogallo

And, yeah, he was considered armed and dangerous, and a $1,000 reward was issued for any information on his location. Can we dig a little deeper for a guy who's currently armed and seeking more victims?

0
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3001.383 - 3006.928 Jimmy Wistman

He shot a woman, partially dismembered her, and said he's going to his old employment to murder several people.

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3007.008 - 3030.888 James Petrogallo

To kill multiple people was his quote. A grand. A grand. And he's armed and batshit is the problem. Never mind dangerous. He's armed and crazy as fuck right now and has nothing to lose. A thousand dollars. So the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation and the U.S. Marshal Service, as well as the local police, launched a manhunt for him. And so that's what's going on.

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3032.298 - 3063.54 James Petrogallo

They end up the next day at 3.45 p.m. They figure out where he is. Twelve hours later. Twelve hours after they found Samantha. Jesus. All right. Here they finally figure out where he is. He is on Highway I-65 in Kentucky. Not near Chattanooga. So it is near mile marker 12 on Interstate 65. They initiate a traffic stop on him. And this is a bunch of cops. I mean, this isn't one cop.

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3064.441 - 3065.682 James Petrogallo

Barney Fife isn't coming up.

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💬 0

3065.722 - 3066.983 Jimmy Wistman

License and registration.

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3067.023 - 3068.524 James Petrogallo

No, no, no, no, no. This is...

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3069.404 - 3092.055 James Petrogallo

out of the car with your hands up and tons of guns drawn and yeah spike strips and shit walk backwards toward me and all that toward the sound of my voice and all that kind of shit going on your shirt up yeah as you're doing it yeah pull your shirt up turn around and walk backwards toward me interlock your hands on the back of your fucking head so um he's being pursued by all these people he pulls over yeah

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3093.476 - 3108.662 James Petrogallo

Police are trying to contact with him. He won't do anything. He's in the car. He's in the car. He's in the car. A little bit of a standoff. Then they say, well, fuck it. We got to approach. Yeah. What are we supposed to do? Just sit here all night with him? All day? Right. It's 345 on a fucking highway. We got to get this done and over with.

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3108.682 - 3109.823 Jimmy Wistman

I'm going to wait this fucker out.

0
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3109.963 - 3118.106 James Petrogallo

So they start to approach the car. Blows his fucking brains out. Oh, Joe. Shoots himself in the fucking head in the car.

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3118.766 - 3118.966 Jimmy Wistman

Yep.

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3119.166 - 3119.947 James Petrogallo

Kaboom. Done.

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3120.227 - 3120.387 Jimmy Wistman

Yeah.

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3121.267 - 3146.734 James Petrogallo

so yeah that's 3 45 they come up and they find him in the car they hear the gunshot they yeah i assume take a step back for a second and once they saw brain matter on the windows they probably went forward a little bit more and he's pronounced dead at the scene for sure so joe has had quite the week and he took all of that horrible ride with him we know nothing Nothing.

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3147.535 - 3148.436 Jimmy Wistman

What the fuck?

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3148.476 - 3159.729 James Petrogallo

No, no shit. He just went. We don't know where he went. He just went all around. His cell phone was like on and off so they could ping him once in a while, but not all the time. He was smart enough to turn his phone off when he didn't want to be found.

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3160.325 - 3163.107 Jimmy Wistman

So he turns his phone off, on and off.

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3163.347 - 3163.587 James Petrogallo

Yeah.

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3164.107 - 3166.168 Jimmy Wistman

We know nothing about what this guy did.

0
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3166.409 - 3171.491 James Petrogallo

No. Or why. And he didn't, not like he like called his brother and spilled it or he just drove around.

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3172.592 - 3173.833 Jimmy Wistman

No Chattanooga friends.

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3174.113 - 3181.917 James Petrogallo

No Chattanooga friends. We don't know that he has friends even in Chattanooga. We have no idea. We don't know if he even has friends. We don't know what the fuck was going on in this guy's head other than.

0
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3182.138 - 3182.878 Jimmy Wistman

Oh my God.

0
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3183.078 - 3188.643 James Petrogallo

He was batshit crazy enough to think his wife was still alive after being dead and in a freezer and dismembered for two days.

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3188.683 - 3189.945 Jimmy Wistman

Morse coding with her eyes.

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3190.485 - 3213.023 James Petrogallo

Yes. It is absolutely bonkers batshit crazy. So anyway, the next month after all this happens, poor Mackenzie, that's both her parents. That's horrid. This poor fucking young lady is I don't even know what to think about her. This poor, poor girl. So there is a the next month there is an event called the Wings of Love.

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3220.003 - 3239.69 James Petrogallo

So McKenzie attends this. It's a month after this all happens. So that's real fresh. Uh, she says, I'll never have closure and I'll never have answers. No, no, she'll never get it. She'll never get to sit down with her dad and go, what the fuck were you doing? Why'd you do that? So, yeah, uh, there was 25 victims honored during the ceremony. And, um,

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3240.33 - 3258.883 James Petrogallo

I guess they've been doing it for 17 years at that point. So if they're still doing it, it's 28 now. They said the district attorney said what we're looking for is to make every year that goes by one where you'll have something to look forward to and you can always come to this program. And Mackenzie, great.

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3259.183 - 3263.206 Jimmy Wistman

Thanks. Come by and remember the worst day of your life.

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3263.266 - 3270.573 James Petrogallo

Every year I'd be very sad with some other people. That's beautiful. I don't know if that gives you strength or what. I have no idea. I'd rather just not, but that's fine.

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3270.593 - 3272.055 Jimmy Wistman

The idea is fucked up.

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3272.375 - 3293.093 James Petrogallo

Yeah, I guess it's, I mean, you don't have to go. It's not mandatory. You can show up if it helps. Mackenzie said, things are kind of like a blur right now. I don't think the loss of my mom has really actually hit us yet. It's been a month. No, that's not going to hit you yet. Man, she said that she had devoted herself entirely to her children since her parents have been killed here.

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3293.674 - 3315.504 James Petrogallo

Her kids are four years and seven months old. Imagine dealing with a seven-month-old while this is all happening. So, yeah, she said about her mom, Mackenzie said she put everybody before she put herself. She did her best to provide for me and gave me everything I wanted as a child. People keep telling me time heals everything. And right now it's only courage that can make us believe that.

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3316.925 - 3339.059 James Petrogallo

So one year after the whole deal here, they hold a memorial here. It's a one-year anniversary of the event. Mackenzie holds a little memorial. And, yeah, she's a little got her kind of her balance with her now. And she says about her mom, she was a great mother. She taught me right from wrong. She taught me what respect was.

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3339.359 - 3355.528 James Petrogallo

She taught me how to be nice, how to love, how to be kind, how to be sweet, you name it. I love her and I miss her and I will till the end of time. She loved me from the first time I took my first breath until the day she took her last. And I'm forever grateful for those 22 years of life with her. Today I find myself missing both of them equally.

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3356.889 - 3357.269 Unknown

Really?

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3357.654 - 3380.798 James Petrogallo

Yeah. She said, a lot of people ask me why I'm not angry. And she says, I, I, that's, I never saw that of my father. So she says, all I remember about my father is someone, she's my father. And he, she said, they showed me what it was like to have what I would like to have in a marriage someday. Okay. You know, minus the temple wound. Right. Yeah.

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3381.338 - 3386.819 James Petrogallo

And, um, so that's, that's, I mean, I don't know, man, you know, she's not mad at her dad.

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💬 0

3387.517 - 3393.881 Jimmy Wistman

Wow, she's got it together too mentally that she didn't slip up and say something like what he did was ice cold or some shit like that.

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3393.901 - 3416.136 James Petrogallo

Yeah, yeah, for once they didn't say it. Yeah, cold-blooded. Cold-blooded. So she's trying. One of her cousins said it's a nightmare and I still remember the events. And Mackenzie said it was a very bad night and I think he just snapped. I know my dad lost his job and the house was in foreclosure. That was the hardest thing that I ever had to go through.

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3416.156 - 3430.928 James Petrogallo

It was the hardest thing I will ever experience in my life. Unless your kid dies, yes, it's going to be – that's crazy. Or a spouse or whatever. So, yeah, this is a lot, man. It's a lot. And she said, I think he just snapped it. I don't know. If your identity is –

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3432.549 - 3461.165 James Petrogallo

you know provider and that's a lot of that's a lot of these guys that snap and do this and kill their whole family and like run off in the mountains that's why they snapped because they feel like a failure and a loser and rather than like okay well let's figure out how to get through it they're like well they can't do it without me i'll just kill everybody like which is fucking crazy obviously so i don't know um it's it's interesting so they'd rather feel the hatred of society yeah what he did rather than the embarrassment of being the failure it's

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3461.385 - 3477.472 James Petrogallo

Yeah, the embarrassment. I think it's the embarrassment. I think they feel like maybe their spouse doesn't respect them anymore or like them or whatever. But, I mean, that's – I think that's what a good long-term relationship is supposed to be is you're supposed to lean on each other through those shit times. And I think that's the point. I think anyway. Fuck do I know.

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3477.972 - 3501.263 James Petrogallo

So one lady here knew Samantha for about 30 years. She said she met Samantha when Samantha was in school with her children. So she's her children's age. And she said that Samantha worked for worked for this lady at the Baker's Market store. She said everybody knew Sam. She was so full of life. She was a hard worker and she was so funny. We really miss her for that.

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3501.303 - 3521.2 James Petrogallo

She's a really sweet and special person. And, yeah, she also says it helps to remember the good times together, and it means a lot for us, those of us that know Mackenzie, for us to be able to help her get through it because it was so tough on her. Not only did she lose her mom, but she lost her dad. Joe Parker was a good guy. I think he just snapped.

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3522.398 - 3523.939 Jimmy Wistman

That's what everybody thinks.

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3523.959 - 3533.523 James Petrogallo

This is completely out of character, apparently. This is just so out of character that the only explanation that they can even put forth is that he must have just snapped.

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3533.563 - 3538.325 Jimmy Wistman

Otherwise, he's been a monster that's held this down for so many years.

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3538.485 - 3539.586 James Petrogallo

And none of us saw it.

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3540.146 - 3540.406 Jimmy Wistman

Right.

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3540.627 - 3558.543 James Petrogallo

And so then nobody likes. Yeah. Now we're the jerk offs. Nobody likes to feel like that. So, yeah, everybody's dead. If you just say he just snapped, that is the easiest way for your brain to get through it. Sure. He just snapped. It had to be. It's all it could be. So the the the cousin said to have forgiveness in your heart and peace.

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3558.643 - 3579.789 James Petrogallo

You know, she was raised by good parents, meaning about McKenzie. She feels this way. They must have been decent parents. Mackenzie said the moments and the memories are what you want to hold on to. And now Sam is going is buried at Greenbrier Cemetery in Tennessee. And Joseph is buried at the Harpeth Hills Memory Gardens in Nashville.

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3580.396 - 3581.856 Jimmy Wistman

Not just the ditch on the side.

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3581.916 - 3604.601 James Petrogallo

No, they didn't just throw them in there and they weren't buried together or anything like that. Wow. So the house was sold in 2016. Oh, God. Twice. First, it was sold for one hundred and thirty eight grand. And then two months later, it was sold for one hundred and seventy grand. So it was sold for a thousand dollars less than they bought it for in 2006.

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3606.57 - 3608.111 Jimmy Wistman

That's what happens, man.

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3608.212 - 3616.599 James Petrogallo

Yeah. So those 10 years, your house did not go up in value really because it went down so much from 2007 to 2008 that it took so long to get back up again.

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3616.619 - 3618.141 Jimmy Wistman

It's worth less than a Camry probably.

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3618.601 - 3624.026 James Petrogallo

Fucking yeah, maybe. So now here are the comments from this article.

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3624.787 - 3625.367 Jimmy Wistman

Oh, Jesus.

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3625.567 - 3652.244 James Petrogallo

Okay. There's an article in one of the local whatever. It doesn't matter. about it now the comments under it start out fine and then they really devolve into society and has nothing to do with anything except it's just shitty petty back and forth and it's hilarious okay Sherry posts on November 7th, 2014. This is the day this happened, by the way, the day he was, she didn't even wait.

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3652.304 - 3673.892 James Petrogallo

No, I've known Joe for 20 years, but haven't seen him in probably three. Last time I saw him, I was in his house meeting Samantha, her laughing at herself at what a neat freak she was. My mind can't grasp the picture of this scenario with the mellow Joe that I was around all the times I spent the night at his home when he was a housemate and a friend of mine. God help us.

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3675.874 - 3697.288 James Petrogallo

I'm telling you, even on the phone, he just sounds, hey, how's it going? All right. He was Mello Joe still. He was the same guy. He just fucking snapped and then went crazy. I don't know what the hell's going on. Okay. Then Alicia chimes in. Alicia is the fire starter here. She says it's always Alicia. And this is the same day it happened. Okay.

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3697.748 - 3698.669 Unknown

Jesus Christ.

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3699.19 - 3706.158 James Petrogallo

Uh, Alicia or Alicia. Actually, there's no IA. So Alicia L a L I S H a Alicia.

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3706.698 - 3708.981 Jimmy Wistman

That's a spelling of Alicia, but it could be Alicia.

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3709.001 - 3713.768 James Petrogallo

We don't, Yeah, I've seen it, I-A, Alicia. Like a C, C-I-A.

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3713.808 - 3716.332 Jimmy Wistman

I've known two women named Alicia spelled this way.

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3716.492 - 3718.556 James Petrogallo

Really? It could be Alicia. Who knows?

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3718.996 - 3720.979 Jimmy Wistman

It's the South. All bets are off.

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3721.08 - 3747.738 James Petrogallo

All bets are off outside of Nashville. So she says it is in all caps not a part of Oakland Farms. Now we're parsing neighborhoods. Oakland Farms is part of the HOA that we as residents pay for and has underground utilities. Those phone line trash people with their electricity dangling out under the trees and shit.

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3748.178 - 3751.22 Jimmy Wistman

All that spaghetti in the sky over there. Fuck that place.

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3751.321 - 3768.393 James Petrogallo

No, we go underground with our stuff. The houses in Saddlebrook, which is technically what they're a part of, use the entrance through Oakland Farms to get to their house, which I might add that Oakland Farm residents don't like considering we pay for the upkeep in our subdivision.

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3768.854 - 3774.739 Jimmy Wistman

Yeah, these scumbags driving through our neighborhood in their Camrys. Fucking in their shitty 10-year-old Camrys.

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3776.76 - 3781.865 James Petrogallo

So then Jay chimes in. This location is in Saddlebrook subdivision, not Oakland Farms.

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3782.085 - 3784.006 Jimmy Wistman

Okay, we get it, guys.

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3785.347 - 3807.548 James Petrogallo

So then DeLuca claps back at Alicia. This is all the day of death, okay? November 7, 2014. Alicia, who gives a crap if you like the public using your street? This, okay. Period. Upload. Everybody. There's more to this. Oh my God. This is not where it ends. No.

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3808.048 - 3822.154 James Petrogallo

This is a story about a murdered woman who's been dismembered and stuffed in a fucking freezer and a guy who snapped after a happy marriage and went and blew his fucking brains out. And in a matter of three comments.

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3823.595 - 3824.515 Jimmy Wistman

It's already a fight.

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3824.735 - 3850.575 James Petrogallo

We have devolved to this. I'm telling you. I swear to God now. I will look on social media and look at something and I'll go, that's super innocuous. And then I will bet to myself how long it takes in the comments for an argument to start. I literally will go, I'm going to say five. Over under five. I will do it all the time and I'm never fucking wrong. I'm always disappointed also. Every time.

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3850.655 - 3855.537 James Petrogallo

I'm disappointed. That's not a fun game. I'll say five and it'll be three and I'm like, you fucking people.

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3856.994 - 3858.375 Jimmy Wistman

Yeah, you lose every time, man.

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3858.795 - 3873.121 James Petrogallo

Oh, it's so fucking bad. But we have got to stop this shit. I don't know how. We got to stop social. We have to stop with social media. We have to. We have to. And it's not just social media. It's just we got to stop the public from being a part of anything. It is. But social media, this has started this. Oh, yeah, yeah.

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3873.261 - 3886.528 James Petrogallo

Nobody would post this on, you know, nobody would write this to a fucking newspaper editor in 1972 or something. This is crazy. It's not. We need less voices to be heard. Most people are stupid.

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3886.568 - 3890.05 Jimmy Wistman

He didn't say it was in there. He said it's out by Oakland Farms.

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3890.13 - 3895.413 James Petrogallo

He didn't say we're in Oakland Farms. In the article of this, it said in Oakland Farms.

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3895.513 - 3902.157 Jimmy Wistman

Okay, well, perhaps the investigator, the fucking guy that wrote the article, drove through Oakland Farms to get there.

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3902.177 - 3919.827 James Petrogallo

They turned in to a sign that said Oakland Farms and said, oh, it's in here. Okay, it's back in the back of Oakland Farms. All right. So who gives a crap if you like the public using your street? This story is about a wife, mother, cousin, and grandmother that just lost her life for nonsense. No one cares about your damn street.

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3920.647 - 3940.876 James Petrogallo

People like you are pathetic excuses for adults, double exclamation point. My heart goes out to this family and all the people who ever knew her. Truly, we will be missed. Truly spelled wrong, of course. Obviously. True L-Y. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Not how you spell it. Okay. Jim Bob chimes in.

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3940.976 - 3941.496 Jimmy Wistman

Hell yeah.

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3942.136 - 3971.554 James Petrogallo

I just want everyone to realize that Oakland Farms is not in the legacy subdivision. Who fucking cares? Jim Bob. Somehow you're giving Jim Bob's a bad name and that takes a lot to do. Then Dennis chimes in. Look, folks, who gives a bright red rat's rump about what street or subdivision this has happened in or about, whether or not it's part of the HOA! Six exclamation points.

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3972.695 - 3990.786 James Petrogallo

A life has been taken here. A senseless tragedy. Have a little compassion on the friends and family members who may read this article and your comments. Save your bickering for the sidewalks. My, my. Some folks just have zero tact. Prayers for the Klaus family. This is wild.

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3990.866 - 3995.788 Jimmy Wistman

He doesn't just describe the color of a rat's ass.

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3995.808 - 4011.733 James Petrogallo

A bright red rat's rump. Never heard that before. It's original. I'll give him that. Valinda then chimes in. I can't believe you people are arguing on the name of the subdivision. All of you know the location where this tragedy occurred. Your concern should be more for the families. Shame on you.

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4012.194 - 4012.914 Jimmy Wistman

Shame on you.

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4013.534 - 4034.721 James Petrogallo

Okay, then Wow chimes in. That's the name. So from what I'm reading, no one wants it to be in their neighborhood as if you in these certain neighborhoods are, quote, better than the others that live in Robertson County. I thought we did away with classes of people, but for some of you, I guess not.

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4035.021 - 4056.012 James Petrogallo

Just because you live in a certain neighborhood in a certain home, other people's lives don't matter to you. Good job to your parents because they reared a real caring person that cares about their fellow man. Wake up, people. Please look at what you are putting on here. My thoughts and prayers to go out to both families in this matter. Both families are dealing with a great loss.

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4056.712 - 4066.799 James Petrogallo

And then finally, Alicia circles back. She came back. She's got to answer, man. She's got a lot to answer for, okay? She's got a lot to answer. She has caused much problem.

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4067.219 - 4069.081 Jimmy Wistman

She has turned this whole thing upside down.

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4069.281 - 4087.299 James Petrogallo

Alicia says, I was only stating where this took place. The comment about the road was directed to the person that thought it was all the same subdivision. Who fucking cares, Alicia? She's got to explain herself, man. Wow, you are right. The important thing is that we come together for this family. I apologize if I offended anyone or belittled the situation.

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4087.519 - 4103.424 James Petrogallo

This is such a tragic situation, and my prayers are with all involved. Dude, that's what we've come to in a world. The day this happens, they're fighting over whether or not the street, who pays for the upkeep to go drive on.

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4103.945 - 4107.568 Jimmy Wistman

And how annoyed she is that Joe had to drive down it to get there to murder his wife.

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4107.628 - 4130.794 James Petrogallo

How dare he? He had to drive through our subdivision to escape that. That's bullshit. Oh, my God. This is fucking crazy. So there you go, everybody. That's Springfield, Tennessee, and one just hell of a weird case. Horrible. A fucking weird one. Horrible. The strangest 911 call to ever happen. Do yourselves a favor. Just look up Joseph Parker, Tennessee, 911 call, and it pops up.

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4130.854 - 4155.246 James Petrogallo

It's all over YouTube. Jesus. Listen to it. You will be just I can't even describe to you how just like, well, anyway, real matter of fact and calm and chill. This guy is on this phone. It's crazy. So I definitely do that. And also head over to shut up and give me murder. Get your tickets for live shows. They are out there. All of 2025 is for sale right now. We added Madison.

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4155.266 - 4175.258 James Petrogallo

That was the last one we added, and it is almost sold out. It's over 95% sold out. So if you'd like to go to Madison, you better hurry the hell up and do that, as well as the end of the year, too, if you'd like to go to Portland or Seattle or Philly or D.C. Get your damn tickets because they're selling fast. Chicago's selling fast. They're all selling fast, except for Pittsburgh.

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4175.318 - 4191.127 James Petrogallo

Pittsburgh, February 7th. You're up first. You're up first. Do you want us to spend the whole tour going, man, thank fuck you're not Pittsburgh. Is that what you want? Do you want us to then go all over the country talking shit about Pittsburgh? I don't think that's what you want. And we don't want to do it because we like Pittsburgh. We actually enjoy it.

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4191.147 - 4193.147 Jimmy Wistman

You want me to drive to Columbus upset?

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4193.427 - 4202.99 James Petrogallo

Upset about it? For a sold out show? Because the show in Columbus is fucking sold out. Unbelievable. Get to Pittsburgh. We can't wait. Can't wait to see you there, honestly. Pittsburgh is one of our favorite places and cities.

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4203.03 - 4203.37 Unknown

Truly, yeah.

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4203.55 - 4226.026 James Petrogallo

Please come and do that and hang out with us. Shutupandgivememurder.com. Also, all your merch is there and everything like that. You certainly, definitely want to follow on social media also. We are at smalltownmurder on Instagram, at smalltownpod on Facebook. And you also definitely want Patreon. That is big. Patreon.com slash crimeinsports is where you get all the bonus materials.

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4226.546 - 4244.312 James Petrogallo

And there's a shitload of it there. Soon as you sign up, anybody $5 a month or above, you are going to get... Hundreds of back episodes of bonus stuff you've never heard before. Literally hundreds. And then you're going to get two new ones every other week. So four a month, two crime and sports, two small town murders. They're hilarious and you get it all.

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4244.512 - 4264.459 James Petrogallo

So this week what you're going to get for crime and sports, we're going to talk about Kobe Bryant and his little problem he had in Colorado there. Yeah, a little dust up in Colorado that he had there, which obviously he was accused of some heinous shit. And we will go through the depositions and talk all about it, and we can make our own judgments on it here.

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4264.939 - 4277.31 James Petrogallo

And then for Small Town Murder, we are going to do an internet salad episode. There we go. Which is, we want to show you, it's kind of a behind the curtain, basically. Before we start recording every week, we sit here, we bullshit, and we look on.

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4277.33 - 4277.91 Unknown

We have to talk for a while.

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4278.17 - 4295.058 James Petrogallo

We look at news stories and we fart around and we laugh our asses off at shit. We make fun of people. It's it's comics in the green room is what it is. And so we are just going to hit record and forget we did and talk just like we would normal about everything that's going on in the world except politics.

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4295.879 - 4312.984 James Petrogallo

We figure you've had an ass load of politics stuffed in your in your face for a long time. And. That's really all that's available in the news is politics. So we're going to try to, you know, make that a little easier and talk about some real dumb shit. I got some flat earth idiot to talk about. That's hilarious. That's one of the subjects.

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4313.024 - 4333.358 James Petrogallo

I know we're going to talk about this flat earth guy and how he got fucking sick, how he got absolutely fucking cooked on this podcast. And then he like tried to get them to take it down and said that he made a video saying they drugged him. It's fucking hilarious. It's hilarious, dude. It's so funny. We'll talk about all that and more. Patreon.com slash Crime and Sports.

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4333.518 - 4350.181 James Petrogallo

And you get a shout-out at the end of the regular show. So keep coming back. Keep listening. Do yourselves a favor, too. Head over to ShutUpAndGiveMeMurder.com. Everything is there on the drop-down menu. If you want to follow us on social media, too, you can do that. That's there. Everything is there for the taking. Do that. Keep coming back and hanging out with us.

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4350.301 - 4359.325 James Petrogallo

Also, listen to Crime in Sports and Your Stupid Opinions. If you like this, you'll like that. Just do it. Hang out with us. Keep coming back. And until next week, everybody, it's been our pleasure.

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4359.725 - 4361.486 Jimmy Wistman

Bye.

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4379.571 - 4394.974 James Petrogallo

If you like Small Town Murder, you can listen early and ad-free now by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Prime members can listen early and ad-free on Amazon Music. Before you go, tell us about yourself by filling out a short survey at wondery.com slash survey.

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4395.294 - 4400.655 Unknown

He was hip-hop's biggest mogul, the man who redefined fame, fortune, and the music industry.

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4401.156 - 4407.057 Unknown

The first male rapper to be honored on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, Sean Diddy Combs.

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4408.885 - 4413.387 Unknown

Diddy built an empire and lived a life most people only dream about.

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4413.727 - 4417.108 Unknown

Everybody know ain't no party like a Diddy party, so. Yeah, that's what's up.

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4417.788 - 4422.55 Unknown

But just as quickly as his empire rose, it came crashing down.

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4422.57 - 4431.954 Unknown

Today I'm announcing the unsealing of a three-count indictment, charging Sean Combs with racketeering conspiracy, sex trafficking, interstate transportation for prostitution.

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4431.974 - 4437.976 Unknown

I was up. I hit rock bottom, but I made no excuses. I'm disgusted. I'm so sorry.

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4438.615 - 4454.979 Unknown

Until you're wearing an orange jumpsuit, it's not real. Now it's real. From his meteoric rise to his shocking fall from grace, from law and crime, this is The Rise and Fall of Diddy. Listen to The Rise and Fall of Diddy exclusively with Wondery Plus.

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