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What Happens Inside A Top-Secret U.S. Nuclear Facility?

11 Feb 2025

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The U.S. tested nuclear weapons until the early 1990s. Since then, scientists have been using supercomputers and experiments to simulate nuclear test detonations, without detonating any nukes. But there are signs the world's nuclear powers may be readying to test again: Russia, China and the U.S. are all upgrading their nuclear test sites.NPR science correspondent Geoff Brumfiel was among a small group of journalists allowed to tour an underground laboratory where this research happens. Read more of science correspondent Geoff Brumfiel's reporting here. Help shape the future of Short Wave by taking our survey: npr.org/shortwavesurveyListen to every episode of Short Wave sponsor-free and support our work at NPR by signing up for Short Wave+ at plus.npr.org/shortwave.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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24.158 - 43.709 Regina Barber

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44.329 - 62.744 Regina Barber

Just go to npr.org slash shortwave survey. We'll also put a link in our show notes. Thank you. Okay, on to our show. You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. Hey, Gina. Hey, NPR science correspondent Jeff Brumfield. Why are you darkening my doorstep?

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62.924 - 74.552 Geoff Brumfiel

To talk about one of my all-time favorite topics, nuclear weapons testing. And I got a question for you. Okay. When do you think is the last time the U.S. tested a nuclear weapon?

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74.952 - 77.914 Regina Barber

I'm going to say possibly in the late 70s.

78.374 - 102.967 Geoff Brumfiel

They actually stopped a lot later than that. They stopped in 1992. Wow. Yeah. And they've been pursuing a very different program based on science. And recently, I got a very, very unusual look at that program and all its facets and sort of how the U.S. continues to verify its nuclear weapons work without having to set any of them off.

103.367 - 104.508 Regina Barber

Are they thinking about testing again?

104.528 - 115.134 Geoff Brumfiel

I would say the official answer is no, but. There is more concern that the U.S. or another country might soon test another nuclear weapon.

118.618 - 130.65 Regina Barber

So today on the show, Jeff takes us on a rare trip to tunnels deep under the Nevada desert, where America does science instead of nuclear testing. I'm Regina Barber, and you're listening to Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR.

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