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S31 E3: Seeking justice | The Banned Teacher

Sun, 12 Jan 2025

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More than a year after Robinson went to police, William Douglas Walker was charged with a sex crime. She alleged he groomed and controlled her when she was 16. After four and half years in court, a judge said there wasn’t enough proof she hadn’t consented to sex. The case was dismissed.

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Chapter 1: What is the story of Canada's deadliest assassin?

1.57 - 26.687 Kathleen Goldhar

In 1977, the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club opened up a chapter in Montreal. Their enforcer was a man named Yves Trudeau. And over the course of his criminal career, Trudeau would murder no fewer than 43 people. And he would only spend seven years in prison. I'm Kathleen Goldhar, and this week on Crime Story, the sordid tale of Canada's deadliest assassin.

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27.407 - 29.889 Kathleen Goldhar

Find Crime Story wherever you get your podcasts.

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31.85 - 33.832 Unknown

This is a CBC Podcast.

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35.593 - 46.0 Detective

I'm Detective Yarmuluk, badge number 813. We're in 55 Division in the interview room. And I am with, could you just state your name for the camera?

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46.28 - 47.541 Anne-Marie Robinson

Anne-Marie Robinson.

47.561 - 53.985 Defense Lawyer

That camera is perched high in the corner of a small square room. It's inside a Toronto police station.

54.066 - 57.608 Detective

This is being videotaped and audiotaped. Do you have no problem with that? No, not at all.

58.76 - 70.184 Defense Lawyer

Anne-Marie's hair is pulled back. Bangs characteristically fall onto her face. She sits across the table from the detective. She's dressed smartly in wool dress pants and a little jacket.

70.204 - 81.468 Detective

You've come in today from Ottawa in relation to an occurrence. It's a historical sexual assault. Is that right?

Chapter 2: Who is Anne-Marie Robinson?

408.035 - 430.322 Defense Lawyer

These police documents mention Walker's delays. He told police he was ill and had personal problems. There are notes the detective was giving him quote the benefit of the doubt. The official report also says Anne-Marie asked police why Walker could not turn himself in. Yet she found photos of him golfing posted to social media.

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430.662 - 451.015 Anne-Marie Robinson

This was just beyond the pale in terms of how long it was going on. And so I kind of started to feel like the police weren't taking it seriously. And so I went to Toronto and sat down and did the interview with him. as a means of trying to compel him as to why this case was important and why it was important to me.

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451.696 - 460.703 Defense Lawyer

The detective in the video, reading glasses perched on his bald head, doesn't discuss the delays, but he asks her to repeat her story again.

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461.584 - 475.8 Detective

So then you're at Eastern Commerce. When did you meet up or have a relationship is the wrong word. When did you have dealings with Mr. Walker?

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476.38 - 490.149 Anne-Marie Robinson

My grade 10 year. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he started his grooming process then, right? He was trying to convince me that I was special and he was, you know, all of that stuff that I've since read about.

491.95 - 505.829 Detective

So now you had intercourse. How did that come about? Like, how did he... did he convince you at any time? Did you say stop? I want, I don't want to do with this.

506.189 - 506.83 Anne-Marie Robinson

I don't think so.

507.09 - 517.177 Detective

Okay. Okay. So now you had, uh, the first time you had intercourse was in Belleville in the hotel room. Yes. Um, it was at one time there in Belleville.

517.397 - 517.637 Defense Lawyer

Yes.

Chapter 3: What challenges did Anne-Marie face in her case?

1979.668 - 1987.45 Anne-Marie Robinson

There's no question in my mind that I was re-victimized again during the process. Feeling like nobody was there to protect me again.

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1991.36 - 2022.25 Defense Lawyer

This one woman's journey through the criminal justice system has failed. She had expected different results. And I thought a trial would answer many of our questions. That isn't going to happen. But this story is far from over. This investigation is in our hands now, and we're just getting started. Next time on The Band Teacher. As one door closes, another is about to open wide.

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2023.611 - 2034.453 Unknown

I got that message. I just sobbed and sobbed. My husband just held on to me while I cried. I said, there's more of us.

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2040.155 - 2048.433 Anne-Marie Robinson

It was just this weird combination of Anger, relief, not being alone, but also just like a gut punch.

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2049.394 - 2059.857 Defense Lawyer

Meeting her is the most important thing to me right now. And we dig into why the judge dismissed Anne Marie's case against Walker and what might have been done differently.

2059.877 - 2063.879 Unknown

I think what happened to you was a complete miscarriage of justice.

2065.851 - 2090.917 Defense Lawyer

The band Teacher is investigated, reported, written, and hosted by me, Julie Ireton. Allison Cook is the story and script editor, producer, sound designer, and mixer. Felice Chin is our executive producer and story editor. Ev Saint-Laurent is our legal advisor. Thank you to Malcolm Campbell, Trevor Pritchard, and Natalia Goodwin for lending their voices to the courtroom scene in this episode.

2091.337 - 2118.992 Defense Lawyer

Jennifer Chen, Amanda Pfeffer and Jen White provided valuable production advice. Special thanks to the folks at CBC Podcasts for their support and the managing editor of CBC Ottawa is Drake Fenton. If you want to binge the whole series, subscribe to CBC True Crime Premium on Apple Podcasts. Just click on the link in the show description or binge listen for free by logging in to CBC Listen.

2120.953 - 2148.21 Defense Lawyer

If you like this podcast, I have another original investigation that might interest you. That's The Band Played On, Season 1. All episodes are available right now, wherever you get your podcasts. If you or someone you know has been sexually abused, community resources can help. Reach out to a trusted person, sexual assault center, or rape crisis center in your area.

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